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> <channel><title>Comments on: Since When Do We Question Science-based Managment of Wolves</title> <atom:link href="http://www.ammoland.com/2009/06/21/since-when-do-we-question-science-based-managment-of-wolves/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.ammoland.com/2009/06/21/since-when-do-we-question-science-based-managment-of-wolves/</link> <description>AmmoLand Shooting Sports News</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:56:13 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: AmmoLand</title><link>http://www.ammoland.com/2009/06/21/since-when-do-we-question-science-based-managment-of-wolves/comment-page-1/#comment-2919</link> <dc:creator>AmmoLand</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:57:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ammoland.com/?p=12328#comment-2919</guid> <description>Bobalee:Just wanted you to know that we read your points even if the other commenters did not...Hope to hear more from you....AmmoLand.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobalee:</p><p>Just wanted you to know that we read your points even if the other commenters did not&#8230;</p><p>Hope to hear more from you&#8230;.AmmoLand.com</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bobalee</title><link>http://www.ammoland.com/2009/06/21/since-when-do-we-question-science-based-managment-of-wolves/comment-page-1/#comment-2902</link> <dc:creator>Bobalee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:50:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ammoland.com/?p=12328#comment-2902</guid> <description>The point of my comment was that the majority of the organizations involved in the litigation were not anti-hunting.It was only long winded to give some background information regarding these organizations, which you obviously ignored.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of my comment was that the majority of the organizations involved in the litigation were not anti-hunting.</p><p>It was only long winded to give some background information regarding these organizations, which you obviously ignored.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Clarity &#38; Truth</title><link>http://www.ammoland.com/2009/06/21/since-when-do-we-question-science-based-managment-of-wolves/comment-page-1/#comment-2900</link> <dc:creator>Clarity &#38; Truth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ammoland.com/?p=12328#comment-2900</guid> <description>The problem with long winded reply&#039;s like the comment above is that  they work under the premise that Fish &amp; Game and Hunters just kill without regards for nature.&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In fact the complete opposite is true.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;USA Hunters and US Hunting based conservation groups have spent more money and done more for the conservation of animals than all the feel good animal organizations in the world combined.It is a proven undeniable fact that hunters and wild life resource managers like state fish and game departments a have done more to improve habitat and increase the populations of animals than any of the quoted &quot;people control&quot; groups above.There is no logical reason to now assume that these same hunters would suddenly go on a killing spree.  In fact as the article above clearly points out that wolves would be better off managed by science based programs that exist under the control of state DNR departments and not by the un-managed system that is currently in placed under the ESA.&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;If you really cared about the welfare of all wild animals you would rethink your argument for more feel good wildlife management and take on the real problem which is groups like the ones above spending more money on politics, fund raising and controlling people than on the animals themselves.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with long winded reply&#8217;s like the comment above is that  they work under the premise that Fish &amp; Game and Hunters just kill without regards for nature.</p><p><em><strong>In fact the complete opposite is true.</strong></em></p><p>USA Hunters and US Hunting based conservation groups have spent more money and done more for the conservation of animals than all the feel good animal organizations in the world combined.</p><p>It is a proven undeniable fact that hunters and wild life resource managers like state fish and game departments a have done more to improve habitat and increase the populations of animals than any of the quoted &#8220;people control&#8221; groups above.</p><p>There is no logical reason to now assume that these same hunters would suddenly go on a killing spree.  In fact as the article above clearly points out that wolves would be better off managed by science based programs that exist under the control of state DNR departments and not by the un-managed system that is currently in placed under the ESA.</p><p><strong><em>If you really cared about the welfare of all wild animals you would rethink your argument for more feel good wildlife management and take on the real problem which is groups like the ones above spending more money on politics, fund raising and controlling people than on the animals themselves.</em></strong></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bobalee</title><link>http://www.ammoland.com/2009/06/21/since-when-do-we-question-science-based-managment-of-wolves/comment-page-1/#comment-2895</link> <dc:creator>Bobalee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:45:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ammoland.com/?p=12328#comment-2895</guid> <description>The groups that filed for the relisting of the wolf under the ESA in 2008 were not all anti-hunting groups.Earthjustice submitted the notice letter on behalf of Defenders of Wildlife, Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club, Center for Biological Diversity, The Humane Society of the United States, Jackson Hole Conservation Alliance, Friends of the Clearwater, Alliance for the Wild Rockies, Oregon Wild, Cascadia Wildlands Project, and Western Watersheds Project.The Humane Society of the United States is the only one of these organizations that is opposed to hunting.Here are the statements from the organizations involved:
Conservation Group Statements:&lt;blockquote&gt;“Wolves in the northern Rockies are simply not ready to lose federal protections. America has come too far, and worked too hard, to throw away the successes of the past decade and see wolves in the Yellowstone region end up back where they started.”  Suzanne Asha Stone, Defenders of Wildlife“There is nothing in the state management schemes or delisting rule itself to prevent the killing of up to 80 percent of wolves in the northern Rockies. Attempts by the Fish and Wildlife Service to assure the public otherwise have no factual basis.” Louisa Willcox, Natural Resources Defense Council“Wolves in the northern Rockies are just now on the cusp of biological recovery. State management after delisting will allow the current wolf population to dwindle to three tiny, isolated groups totaling only 300 wolves. No species, including wolves, can survive in those conditions.”  Melanie Stein, Sierra Club“Just as disturbing as the state management plans that permit killing of hundreds of wolves is the expected increase in federal predator control, including ramped up aerial gunning, leghold traps and even poisoning of wolves. Federal predator control on behalf of the livestock industry is what exterminated wolves in the first place, and that was before the era of helicopter sharpshooters pursuing radio-collared wolves. We will bring this alarming prospect to a court’s attention.”  Michael Robinson, Center for Biological Diversity“Idaho wins the prize for wanting to kill the most wolves. Wyoming wins for the most blatant hostility toward wolves enshrined in state law. And Montana wears the crown for killing the most wolves 8 of the last 10 years despite having the smallest wolf population of all three states.”  John Grandy, Ph.D., senior vice president of The Humane Society of the United States“We are concerned that Wyoming will strictly adhere to the language in the state legislation and aggressively eliminate wolves that now occupy Jackson Hole and parts of Grand Teton National Park. With Wyoming’s current plan, wolves two miles from Jackson’s Town Square could be killed by anyone at any time—this is reprehensible.”  Franz Camenzind, Jackson Hole Conservation Alliance“As evidenced by the of State of Idaho&#039;s proposals to aerial gun wolves in the Frank Church Wilderness and to kill up to 75% of the wolves on the Upper Lochsa while wolves remained protected, delisting at this time poses a great risk to the Northern Rockies wolf population, which is still recovering.”  Will Boyd, Education Director, Friends of the Clearwater“Legal action is necessary to prevent the states from implementing management schemes that have the primary purpose of eliminating, rather than conserving, wolves.”  Michael Garrity, Alliance for the Wild Rockies“Wolves are just starting to cross the Snake River and begin the process of recovery in the state of Oregon where wolves remain endangered. Prematurely removing the gray wolf from the federal Endangered Species list and allowing Idaho and Wyoming to dramatically reduce wolf populations will delay or even prevent the recovery of the wolf in Oregon.”  Doug Heiken, Oregon Wild, formerly Oregon Natural Resources Council“Wolves are not recovered in the west. There are still public lands with abundant elk and deer populations that can and should sustain these magnificent animals throughout the western states.”  Jon Marvel, Western Watersheds Project“Gray wolves in the northern Rockies are near biological recovery, but they aren’t there yet. Now, wolves are staring down the barrel at hostile state management schemes that would ensure the wolf population never achieves sustainable numbers and genetic connectivity.”  Jenny Harbine, Earthjustice&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The groups that filed for the relisting of the wolf under the ESA in 2008 were not all anti-hunting groups.</p><p>Earthjustice submitted the notice letter on behalf of Defenders of Wildlife, Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club, Center for Biological Diversity, The Humane Society of the United States, Jackson Hole Conservation Alliance, Friends of the Clearwater, Alliance for the Wild Rockies, Oregon Wild, Cascadia Wildlands Project, and Western Watersheds Project.</p><p>The Humane Society of the United States is the only one of these organizations that is opposed to hunting.</p><p>Here are the statements from the organizations involved:<br
/> Conservation Group Statements:</p><blockquote><p>“Wolves in the northern Rockies are simply not ready to lose federal protections. America has come too far, and worked too hard, to throw away the successes of the past decade and see wolves in the Yellowstone region end up back where they started.”  Suzanne Asha Stone, Defenders of Wildlife</p><p>“There is nothing in the state management schemes or delisting rule itself to prevent the killing of up to 80 percent of wolves in the northern Rockies. Attempts by the Fish and Wildlife Service to assure the public otherwise have no factual basis.” Louisa Willcox, Natural Resources Defense Council</p><p>“Wolves in the northern Rockies are just now on the cusp of biological recovery. State management after delisting will allow the current wolf population to dwindle to three tiny, isolated groups totaling only 300 wolves. No species, including wolves, can survive in those conditions.”  Melanie Stein, Sierra Club</p><p>“Just as disturbing as the state management plans that permit killing of hundreds of wolves is the expected increase in federal predator control, including ramped up aerial gunning, leghold traps and even poisoning of wolves. Federal predator control on behalf of the livestock industry is what exterminated wolves in the first place, and that was before the era of helicopter sharpshooters pursuing radio-collared wolves. We will bring this alarming prospect to a court’s attention.”  Michael Robinson, Center for Biological Diversity</p><p>“Idaho wins the prize for wanting to kill the most wolves. Wyoming wins for the most blatant hostility toward wolves enshrined in state law. And Montana wears the crown for killing the most wolves 8 of the last 10 years despite having the smallest wolf population of all three states.”  John Grandy, Ph.D., senior vice president of The Humane Society of the United States</p><p>“We are concerned that Wyoming will strictly adhere to the language in the state legislation and aggressively eliminate wolves that now occupy Jackson Hole and parts of Grand Teton National Park. With Wyoming’s current plan, wolves two miles from Jackson’s Town Square could be killed by anyone at any time—this is reprehensible.”  Franz Camenzind, Jackson Hole Conservation Alliance</p><p>“As evidenced by the of State of Idaho&#8217;s proposals to aerial gun wolves in the Frank Church Wilderness and to kill up to 75% of the wolves on the Upper Lochsa while wolves remained protected, delisting at this time poses a great risk to the Northern Rockies wolf population, which is still recovering.”  Will Boyd, Education Director, Friends of the Clearwater</p><p>“Legal action is necessary to prevent the states from implementing management schemes that have the primary purpose of eliminating, rather than conserving, wolves.”  Michael Garrity, Alliance for the Wild Rockies</p><p>“Wolves are just starting to cross the Snake River and begin the process of recovery in the state of Oregon where wolves remain endangered. Prematurely removing the gray wolf from the federal Endangered Species list and allowing Idaho and Wyoming to dramatically reduce wolf populations will delay or even prevent the recovery of the wolf in Oregon.”  Doug Heiken, Oregon Wild, formerly Oregon Natural Resources Council</p><p>“Wolves are not recovered in the west. There are still public lands with abundant elk and deer populations that can and should sustain these magnificent animals throughout the western states.”  Jon Marvel, Western Watersheds Project</p><p>“Gray wolves in the northern Rockies are near biological recovery, but they aren’t there yet. Now, wolves are staring down the barrel at hostile state management schemes that would ensure the wolf population never achieves sustainable numbers and genetic connectivity.”  Jenny Harbine, Earthjustice</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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