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Activist Talking Points For Local Municipality Building Gun Bans & No Gun Sign Postings

Wisconsin Carry

Wisconsin --(Ammoland.com)- With the plethora of municipalities taking up gun-bans/posting of government buildings, in preparation for the new concealed carry law to take effect Nov. 1 we have seen scores of municipalities take up this issue.

Some have made wise choices and ALLOWED guns in local government buildings (city hall, library, etc)

Unfortunately, many have chosen to follow ignorance and emotion and decided to post city buildings:

I have been asked by a few members for talking points to use when they attend their local meetings to push back/advocate for the common sense of allowing carry by the law-abiding.

Here are some suggested talking points that you might get an idea or two from that perhaps you haven’t already. As you attend your local city council meetings when these issues are discussed, feel free to use some, or all of these in addition to your own ideas.

First: As a matter of principle, its immoral for the city government to deny a citizen their constitutionally guaranteed HUMAN right to self-defense in buildings that the very citizen pays for through their taxes. Those are not private buildings, they are government buildings, but a government “of the people”. Ultimately they ARE the people’s buildings. If we embrace a government “of the people” how can we deny citizens a constitutional right to carry in their own buildings? Its immoral. They mayor doesn’t own the building. He didn’t pay for it. The city council doesn’t own the buildings. They didn’t pay for it. The taxpayers paid for it.

Second: I would ask the council members if they honestly believe that a sign will stop a deranged lunatic from coming into the city hall (or the city library, etc) with a gun. In an era of growing frustration with government, the potential for a lunatic on a shooting rampage does exist (we saw it in Florida at a school board meeting, we saw it in Missouri) A deranged shooter will ignore the sign and every law-abiding person inside will have left their means to defend themselves in their car.

I might pose the question to the council, if some lunatic is unable to pay their property tax bill and decides to go on a suicidal shooting rampage at the city council meeting, do you want to be sitting where you are with no means to defend yourself or would you wish that someone in that room stop the threat and save lives.

I would tell them “god forbid what happened at that board meeting in Florida or in Missouri happens here”, but if someone lunatic comes in and points a gun at you and starts shooting. As everyone dives under the desk, in that moment, will you regret that you prohibited EVERY “good guy” in the room from having a gun who could save your life. Will you (city council members) regret that your signs not only created an environment where should a lunatic come in and start shooting, no one will be able to stop it, but your signs will ALSO give a lunatic a sense of confidence that the city council meeting is a GOOD place to go on a shooting rampage because the prohibition on guns means everyone in there is unarmed.

Its noteworthy that around the country, deranged lunatic’s DO NOT go into police stations [or gun shows] and start shooting. They go in schools and universities and school board meetings, and city council meetings where guns are PROHIBITED. I don’t think this is coincidence. I think lunatics want easy prey. If they just wanted to die, they could kill themselves. They want to inflict mass casualties before they do. That’s why they usually don’t go on shooting rampages in police stations where there are guns that could stop them.

They find places where guns are prohibited and they go on a rampage there.

Tell them to be COMPASSIONATE towards the men and women of (your city here) who want to protect themselves from the crime that will inevitably someday seep outward from (insert nearest major city here) and not to impose these bans on their ability to be carrying when they go into a city building.

Tell them that fearing a law-abiding citizen who carries for self defense and would never draw a gun unless a life was in danger MORE than they would fear a lunatic criminal who would be hell-bent on mass casualties lacks any logic what-so-ever.

Lastly, you could tell them that places with “no guns” signs posted would make the parking lot a target for thieves because they know there is a high likelihood that guns would have been left in the vehicle because they are prohibited in the building. A city council meeting at night that lasts several hours would give a criminal ample opportunity to break into cars in the parking lot to steal guns left there.

One quick announcement:
The “Uninfringed Liberty Group” is hosting its 3rd annual right-to-carry tea-party. It will be held on October 22, 2011 from 1 – 4 pm at the band shell at Lakefront Park in Hudson, WI. It doesn’t appear their website www.uninfringedliberty.com is updated with any other information at this time, but check in the near future for more details. Open-carry encouraged but not required at the event.

Carry On!

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Wisconsin Carry, Inc. is a non-profit corporation dedicated to the preservation and reclamation of the rights of law-abiding Wisconsin residents to carry in the manner of their choosing. We believe that “open carry” and “concealed carry” are choices to be made by law-abiding citizens based on their situation and preference. Wisconsin Carry, like many gun-rights organizations in Wisconsin, is investing a great deal of resources to get Wisconsin law changed to allow concealed carry this next legislative session by proposing Constitutional Carry. Wisconsin Carry, Inc. will continue to use legal recourse to deter unlawful treatment of law-abiding Wisconsin residents who currently exercise their right to open carry, and soon will exercise their right to concealed carry in Wisconsin. Visit: www.wisconsincarry.org

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Giving Something Back – Kids and Hunting
By J.R. Robbins

NRAHuntersRights.org

Fairfax, VA--(Ammoland.com)- A great many people in the outdoor industry are trying to get kids into hunting.

National organizations with distinguished boards are holding summits, creating websites, raising funds, forming task forces, studying demographic surveys and writing mission statements.

Then there are guys like Bill Crutchfield, a fireman from Charles County, Maryland. He wants to do the same thing all those groups want, but he does it a different way.

He finds kids and takes them hunting. He doesn’t have a budget. Or a staff. Or a website.

What he has is fervor to make sure kids get a chance to hunt.

Crutchfield is well known for taking the biggest nontypical whitetail ever killed on the East Coast – a Boone and Crockett-certified, 268-1/8-inch behemoth he shot in 2006.

“Shooting a buck like that changes your life, makes you want to give something back to the outdoors,” Crutchfield said.

To give something back, he came up with the idea of the Young Guns Hunt Club—an all-volunteer nucleus of friends, family and local landowners working together to create opportunities for local kids to hunt. He pulled this team together in September 2010, and they all started to secure land access, screen guides and plan logistics.

Finding the kids was pretty easy. Crutchfield and friends went to local hunter education classes and asked if anybody needed a place to hunt. They found 25 kids very quickly.

Maryland has a youth deer hunting day—November 12 in 2010, so Crutchfield scheduled the hunt for that date. With a guide lined up for each youngster, and hunting permission granted on local lands, he got the nearby Izaak Walton League club to host a “Meet and Greet” a week before the hunt, so the kids could get to know the guides, practice on the range and do a little pre-hunt scouting. He got NRA to contribute gift bags full of NRA fraternal items, safety literature and a bow to raffle off.

Crutchfield is well known for taking the biggest nontypical whitetail ever killed on the East Coast – a Boone and Crockett-certified, 268-1/8-inch behemoth he shot in 2006

A week later, he and his wife hosted a 5:00 a.m. breakfast for everyone concerned and sent the hunters out to their stands. At mid-morning, everyone returned to the farm that served as “hunting camp.” Hananah O’Neil, a high school sophomore, brought in an eight- point buck, her first deer ever. The midday break kept the kids busy with a barbecue served up by the local 4-H, a fox trapping demonstration, an archery and BB gun range, and a retriever demonstration.

By the end of the afternoon hunt, several other kids brought in deer and everyone, successful or not, was telling stories, laughing, hugging and high-fiving each other.

Before everyone broke up, all the kids were given gift bags and a shed antler with “Young Guns 2010” engraved on the main beam. Crutchfield was then surprised when he and his wife, Terri were presented with a plaque bearing a photo signed by all the kids.

“The crowed cheered and everyone thanked us for putting on the event,” Crutchfield said. “It was hard to keep my emotions under control, and I almost completely lost it. The event was successful, not because of me and Terri, but because so many great people volunteered for a common cause and to make a difference, one shot at a time, for hunting and for these kids.”

It’s important to note that a lot of those national groups are making great headway in getting kids outdoors and into deer stands. NRA is proud to be one of them, especially with well-established programs like the Youth Hunter Education Challenge (YHEC).

And substantial progress is being made in knocking down barriers to youth hunting, through youth mentored hunting laws that NRA and other groups are fighting for.

NRA is helping out with the 2011 Young Guns hunt by donating merchandise for door prizes and raffles, plus NRA Board member Dave Butz will be on hand to talk with the kids. Give a nod, too, to the National Wildlife Turkey Federation, which is providing insurance for the event.

But it’s particularly important to highlight individuals like Bill Crutchfield—not only for his tireless personal efforts, but because there are other people like him who would do something similar, with a little guidance. Bill’s dream is to get a “Young Guns” effort launched on a major scale, and he has established a “model” that could be followed almost anywhere. Yes, it is time-consuming and requires commitment.

If you want to help Crutchfield reach even more kids this coming season—he’s trying for 50–there are plenty of ways that you could contribute.

If you are interested in getting his advice to start something similar in your state, he’d be glad to talk to you. Either way, contact him at: bcrutchjr@aol.com.

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