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American Spirit Arms

American Spirit Arms

Scottsdale, AZ --(Ammoland.com)- My name is Joe Sirochman owner of American Spirit Arms and I wanted to share my recent experience with Bank of America (which we have been doing business with for over 10 years).

Everyone is familiar with the latest increase in guns sales , dealers selling out of inventory, manufacturers back logged for months, large amounts revenue all generated in the last weeks.

American Spirit Arms is no exception to the overwhelming demand. What we have experienced is that our web site orders have jumped 500% causing our web site E commerce to be sending much larger deposits to BANK OF AMERICA.

Well, this threw up a huge RED Flag with Bank of America.  So they decided to hold the deposits for further review, meaning that the orders/payments that were coming in through the web, being paid by honest customers, for goods that were shipped out by American Spirit Arms, were all help by the bank “UNDER REVIEW”

As you could imagine this made me furious…After countless hours on the phone with BANK OF AMERICA I finally got a manager in the right department that told me the reason that the deposits were on hold for FURTHER REVIEW …HER EXACT WORDS WERE AS FOLLOWS…

“WE BELIEVE YOU SHOULD NOT BE SELLING GUNS and GUN PARTS ON THE INTERNET “

I flipped out and told them that they have no right to make up their own new rules and regs..that we are a firearms manufacturer with all the proper licensing FFL (Federal Firearm license ), SOT and that we follow all Federal and All States’ rules and regulations on shipping Firearms and parts ..and that we are also Audited by ATF and Homeland Security on a regular basis.

She said that she understands that but that the deposits will be released only after they have a chance to review and clear them …I told her that this was unacceptable and the those deposits (that were a week old by now ) needed to be released ASAP, that we are a small business and rely on the revenue to run and stay operational.

After that being said another Manager got involved and released one of the deposits “to help out”.

So far to date after two weeks of sales only 1/3 of collected internet sales have been released ..I am still pissed and looking for another Bank and options.

I just thought the public should know..

I will keep everyone posted on new developments on our FaceBook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Spirit-Arms/67153142789

Sincerely

Joseph P Sirochman
American Spirit Arms
16001 N Greenway Hayden Loop Suite B
Scottsdale AZ 85260
480-367-9540 phone
480-367-9541 fax

About American Spirit Arms:
American Spirit Arms is a leading US manufacturer of precision firearms, offering the highest quality parts, accessories and complete rifles. Modeled after the AR15, M16 rifle and M4 carbine, American Spirit Arms builds only the finest components and rifles available today.  We manufacture our products in-house at our facility in Scottsdale, Arizona, and this provides an incredibly high standard of quality and design.  Our vast experience in machining, gives us the edge in order to build the best firearm components and offer the most reliable, accurate and overall superior rifles. Visit: www.americanspiritarms.com

  • 44 User comments to “American Spirit Arms the Most Recent Victim of Bank of America Anti-Gun Discrimination”

    1. Tony Vance on January 8, 2013 at 7:26 AM said:

      If BOA hates guns they should get rid of their armed security guards outside all their branches and replace them with unarmed guards. They should also not have access to law enforcement in case they need it in an emergency, since those guys do carry guns as well. Especially off limits for BOA should be the assistance of SWAT guys, because those dudes might even carry one of those scary black rifles that jump around by themselves and kill people!

    2. Adrian B. on January 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM said:

      As a 9 year old child immigrant from a former Eastern European Communist country, I hate to see that what my parents left over 30 years ago is what we’re surrounded by today. We are headed for communism in this country fast, where the Government is taking over every aspect of our economy, (health care, banks, loans, etc), they are now taking guns away. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS AND DO NO REGISTER THEM. They are the only thing that keeps us away from TYRANNY. Obambi is an outright COMMUNIST.

    3. This is not the first time that Bank of America has done this to a gun manufacturer. We really need to stick together and stop doing business with BOA

    4. Armed and Ready on January 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM said:

      Everyone needs to withdraw all funds from BOA – they have NO RIGHT WHAT-SO-EVER to unlawfully seize anyone’s funds for their own agenda.
      SOT – you need to contact the Banking Commission and file suit against BOA for unlawfully seizing your funds.

    5. Armed and Ready on January 8, 2013 at 9:41 AM said:

      Oops — American Spirit – You need to contact the banking commission, etc. My Boo-Boo.

    6. IMHO, I recommend (as a former realtor) that you never do business with the “Bank of The UnAmerica”. A highly unethical Bank.

    7. Col Martinez, US Army (Ret.) on January 8, 2013 at 12:22 PM said:

      8 Jan 2013
      I would suggest to Joe Sirochman, owner of American Spirit Arms, to transfer his bank accounts and bank business to USAA Bank, in San Antonio, Texas.

    8. Thom Paine on January 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM said:

      Screw the banks, they have and continue to screw us ! Went to a Credit Union from Wells Fargo and couldnt be happier. I will never do business with a megabank again nor should in my opinion any American. From main street all the way to the Federal Reserve its one big scam and unconstitutional as hell. And that you can take to the bank! ;-)

    9. I’m not a gun owner or a NRA member. I am an AMERICAN and am disgusted with BOA conduct. I have been banking with BOA for over 10 years and today is the last. My business will be going to a local bank/credit union. I hope all that feel the same will do the same and send them a loud and clear message.

    10. ANOTHER incident in the ATTEMPTS of the NEW WORLD ORDER TO Disarm the Entire world…

    11. David L Laffoon on January 8, 2013 at 2:42 PM said:

      I can not beleave that bank of America even thinks they have the right to punish a company thats followed all the laws and regulations to sell firearms and parts.Sir you should get in touch with the banking commision and see just how much of bank of AMERICA’s money you are entitled to for this comunist act against you.

    12. As a former Special Forces VietNam operative, I was a customer of BoA…once long ago, and it was the worst experience of my banking life. Biased and objectionable persons in both the lower and management parts of the bank, and just plain rude attitudes from almost every BoA employee I ever had any dealings with, from tellers, all the way to the top. They are extremely biased in favor of liberal, leftist agendas, and seem to violate any and all banking laws they possibly can. They were constantly messing up my accounts, and then, would tell me it was my problem, when it was them all along. Moved to another bank, did same as I did with BoA, NEVER ANOTHER BANKING PROBLEM. Today, they, and other banks, have been adjudicated against, regarding falsified info and other illegal actions regarding mortgages and foreclosure. This firearms manufacturer should seek out a different bank, pull all their funds from BoA ASAP, and take BoA to court, but quick. They also need to take a really close look at Obama and his insistence of both being a 3rd term “president”, and his day after re-election, signing the U.S. up to the gun banning activities of U.N. Agenda 21. EVERYONE should google unagenda21, and read what Obama is silently doing to force every one of us onto the provisions of it, “The New World Order”, and Agenda 21′s One World Government. If anyone tries to tell us Agenda 21 doesn’t exist, isn’t real, smile, walk away, and go READ THE FULL AGENDA 21. BoA is all for Agenda 21 as well. My advice, STOP BANKING WITH BoA, AND ANY OTHER BANKING VENUE THAT PRACTICES THE SAME KIND OF ADVERSE BUSINESS AS BoA DOES.

    13. Rich D'Auria on January 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM said:

      Those who fear guns are anti-gun. I have persuaded 3-4 of these people a year to come to the range with me. I start them out with a .22 revolver and .22 auto and work up to .45acp. In some cases I stop at 9mm.

      It never fails, the anti-gun person quickly turns to liking guns. If every gun enthusiast in the USA took at least one anti-gun person to the range between now and 2014, we would not have to worry about the balance of power in the houses. And by 2016 we would elect a President who abides by the Constitution!

    14. Art Krueger on January 8, 2013 at 8:07 PM said:

      your Facebook page returned this: The page you requested was not found.

    15. If this keeps up I will be closing my account with the please keep everyone updated

    16. carl roberts on January 10, 2013 at 6:37 AM said:

      Let us act not over React—— Wrong doing continues because good people do nothing. Start today do something to protect your rights with out violence. 1st we need to be able to communicate. If this is a filtered system. There needs to be another way developed. If we can put a man on the moon we can do it or maybe we are doing it. I think we start where we have the most influence local level. Keep in mind most of those serving us come from the legal arena they took a oath to tell the truth but forgot the Oath. Please don’t believe everything they tell you record there promises so you can play them back to them, shame may help you get better results. We need to take the time to hold them accountable.The big reason we have lost and loosing our rights is because we hate inconveniences. Take the time,change does not come with out effort and effort comes without convenience. We are reaping what we have sown.If we want something different than we’re getting we need to sow something we haven’t been sowing. Commitment We can turn this run away train around thur commitment to right doing starting with each one of us not putting off till tomorrow what we need to be doing today. complaining is not helping us gain ground , but commitment will,just put one foot in front of the other.We win this battle by out working those that don’t cherish this GREAT NATION as WE once knew it. Martin Luther King said he had a dream,I also have a dream to see this GREAT NATION return back to it’s roots. GOD bless us in our pursuit for right doing for all men.

    17. Prominent rifle manufacturer killed in mysterious car crash days after posting psych drug link to school shooters - 'Social Path' Series on January 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM said:

      [...] suppose it could be a coincidence that Bank of America slammed home an economic embargo against an online gun parts retailer in the days following the Sandy Hook [...]

    18. Danger Zone « Bravo Sierra blog on January 10, 2013 at 9:25 AM said:

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    19. Prominent rifle manufacturer killed in mysterious car crash days after posting psych drug link to school shooters « END TIME HEADLINES on January 10, 2013 at 9:43 AM said:

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    28. This is wrong but it isn’t any worse then you selling gun parts on your web site charging my credit card and me not finding out till 2 weeks later that they’re back ordered and I won’t be receiving them for another three months.

    29. Prominent rifle manufacturer killed in mysterious car crash days after posting psych drug link to school shooters » Infowars Wexford on January 13, 2013 at 7:26 AM said:

      [...] in his car and was never used in the shooting  at all. I suppose it could be a coincidence that Bank  of America slammed home an economic embargo against an online gun parts  retailer in the days following the Sandy Hook shooting. And it could [...]

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    32. The best way to let Bank of America know this type of activity wont be tolerated is to CLOSE OUR ACCOUNTS with them IMMEDIATELY.I just did….

      The truth is folks, we all get upset with some of the things our Government and now Bank of America are doing, but weve become complacent,believe someone else will take care of it or simply dont believe any thing can be done. The framers of our constitution understood that words without action had no meaning. Stand up, let your voice be heard. CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT…..Spread the word, call your local Bank of America branch and let them know why you are closing it. Freedom is free. Demand it or loose it.

    33. Repeal the 2nd Amendment, NRA members are terrorists – The Brenner Brief on January 28, 2013 at 4:31 AM said:

      [...] on the internet.” Although it is legal for the company to do so, it was after Sirochman’s Facebook posting that went viral that Bank of America released the [...]

    34. BOA has allot of nerve “acting” morally superior to anyone… they are the bank that stole hundreds of millions from their shareholders in 2008 by lying about and not disclosing the facts about Merril Lynch’s TERRIBLE financial condition as is required by law when BOA took over Merril.

    35. I made the switch from BOA to a CU and a couple year ago to Umpqua. No more BS from the bank, no more held deposits, no stupid charges for talking to a real person etc. And they actually care about their clients. Go figure.

    36. I wouldn’t piss on BOA if it was on fire…

    37. [...] suppose it could be a coincidence that Bank of America slammed home an economic embargo against an online gun parts retailer in the days following the Sandy Hook [...]

    38. Brian Stendel on February 13, 2013 at 8:52 PM said:

      Canceling my credit card through BOA and sending a note as to why. BTW just ordered $700+ direct from ASA please alert me if the transaction is held up. Love to drop a lawsuit in their laps.

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    40. Sandy Hook May Have Lead To Death Of Rifle Manufacturer | The Chronicle Watch on March 6, 2013 at 4:50 AM said:

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    41. Dogmeat on May 5, 2013 at 1:31 PM said:

      MAN! I have accounts with BofA,guess its time to close them. What Banks are not ANTI-FIREARMS?

    42. Harvey Meltzer on May 10, 2013 at 10:11 AM said:

      Does “BOA” stand for Bank of Africa. Certainly not “America” because that means it stands for the constitution, and 2nd amendment!

    43. Mysterious death during gun control debate raises questions | Info, Please on July 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM said:

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    44. Tal Johnson on June 27, 2014 at 5:28 AM said:

      once again you need to go to bank with USAA! customer service in banking is the best in the world you with really enjoy what you’re working with! and I guarantee that they will thoroughly enjoy working in serving you. I have been banking with them since I graduated college for at least 25 years now. they make you feel like the bank is right around the corner!

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