Comments on: Second Amendment, No Compromise, No Retreat

By: RichardH

RichardH — Sun, 03 Feb 2013 23:13:43 +0000

Why is it that the Libtard is the most long winded, ahole on the planet? Just look at the garbage they spew out!

By: Tory II, Illinois

Tory II, Illinois — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:13:40 +0000

“I support the 2nd amendment, now where are your guns ?”

By: Tred Law

Tred Law — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:51:09 +0000

@Dave; Most folks believe as you do, and that is to be expected, thankfully for you and yours there will be folks like many of the commenter’s on here that will take a stand so that the sheeple can go on living in blissful ignorance. As one of the sheepdogs, I love your kind and will do all I can to keep you safe, I know my capacity for violence scares the sheeple and that you don’t like the sheepdog in your flock, but when the wolf comes, i know who you will pick to hide behind and i will never expect you to thank me. God bless you and yours.

By: Nomen Ignotus

Nomen Ignotus — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:21:15 +0000

Biden was speaking today about the need for an executive order to solve the “gun violence ” problem ( of course it is not he people who commit the violence ) and said that thousands of people would be saved by such non legislative rule …Albert Camus said “The welfare of the People has always been the alibi of tyrants ..”

By: peteowl

peteowl — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:04:53 +0000

Dave S.: I am complete social liberal (pro-abortion, pro same-sex marriage, pro socialized medicine, etc.) who absolutely, positively understands why the Founders put the 2nd in there: because they had direct experience with a tyrant, they were well read in history, and they understood that the People (meaning the common man) ultimately had only one defense from those who inevitably crave power, achieve it, and will then do anything to retain it. I believe law abiding citizens are granted the Constitutional right to own, purchase, and use ANY firearms the Police (who are also citizens) are allowed to use. No, we don’t need the right to possess the military weapons used by our soldiers (full autos, grenades, artillery, mines, rockets, tanks, etc.), but soldiers are not ordinary free citizens: they are in the Service! But if the Police (who often seem to think they have military powers, especially if they are allowed to dress in black) can own and use them, then any law-abiding citizen can own/use them. If we lose that, we lose a key feature of what makes us Americans, and I am sick of hearing that we should follow models in Europe, Australia, Canada. We are Americans, and gun rights are among those that have sustained us as Americans, a free people. You say “All of the talk about “responsible gun owners” belies the fact that 99.99% of the gun owners in this country will never need to use their weapon for self protection in a public place.” That is likely true, but the point that needs to be made is that 99.9% of the gun owners in this country never commit an illegal act with their guns, so why is it logical or responsible to tread on the rights of these 80-100 million citizens because a few, extremely rare, mental/social defectives are allowed to walk among us in our free society. How many of your “12,000 gun deaths” are simple suicides? Most, I believe, and the remainder of the rest are gang members killing gang members and innocents, a few depraved murders, plus there are a handful which are genuine acts of self defense.
Well, I digress. I agree with you that a lot of the rhetoric from the gun holders is out of line and fosters the “us against them” crap. Lots of these folks hate me because I don’t believe in God, for Christ’s sake! But all gun owners are NOT right wing fanatics. We desperately need to pull our people together, ditch our corrupt political parties, and embrace the fact that we are ALL Americans and we are ALL in this together. Only then can we achieve the dream of the free country the Founders had in mind when they created it. They didn’t envision it corrupted by consumerism and run by self-serving billionaires and the machinations of international corporations. These evil powers may yet win the battle (they have certainly succeeded in dividing us, no?), costing us most of our rights, freedoms, and liberties (Homeland Security is the ultimate oxymoron, created by a President who fanned fear instead of saying “we are the home of the brave and we aren’t going to give up our freedoms because of a handful of clever terrorists”), but as long as Americans still have their guns, there is always an option to overthrow a government that believes our freedom and liberty should be sacrificed for total security. Total security is impossible; life offers no guarantees, so it is probably best that you continue to live your life in “ignorant bliss.” All I ask is that you allow me and your fellow Americans, who choose to do so, to retain the freedoms and liberties our country’s Founders (and many patriots thereafter) fought and died for so we could retain them.

By: VA Patriot

VA Patriot — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:03:27 +0000

Yes. We must fight to the death to protect our God given right to defend ourselves & others from criminals...be they robbers, gang members or government tyrrants. Watch this video & pass it around. It's one of the best & most sendible testimonies Ive ever heard.

By: Shawn Grammont

Shawn Grammont — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:15:19 +0000

I feel you. I don’t think any failed gun ban would help stop the gun violence plus what would be considered an assault weapon.

By: Clarence De Barrows

Clarence De Barrows — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:37:08 +0000

Simple. “They” have a liberal progressive agenda coupled with goofy specious reasoning. “We” have the 2nd Amendment and the guns. Where’s the problem?

By: Dave S.

Dave S. — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:21:55 +0000

I can never figure out how the self rightous authors of these type of articles ever hope to convince the “anti-gun” citizens of this country that we do not need additional gun regulation when all I see is a bunch of name calling — “admit that you are a son of liberty” or not and threats. Spare me please! I for one do nor want to live in an armed camp. I do not want to go to the movies and have 20 or 30 of my fellow movie-goers sitting around me with concealed Glocks strapped to their hips. I for one do not think that this is safer than the alternative which is (as we all know) some nut storming in with an weapon. Which is more likely to occur — that one of the patrons with a legal concealed weapon has had a few too many at dinner and gets pissed at something or someone, or perhaps that he has a loose screw and was able to purchase his gun at a gun show with out a background check? All of the talk about “responsible gun owners” belies the fact that 99.99% of the gun owners in this country will never need to use their weapon for self protection in a public place. (Probably in your home as well but I have no issue with you having a weapon in your home if that is what you choose). No one seems willing to accept the statistics that there are 12,000 gun deaths annually in the U.S. and far fewer in almost every other nation on earth. And you wonder why people like me do not react well to the type of postings so common on these sites. See e.g. Harold’s post above “I’ll die with them in my hands first.” I ask Harold and all of the other Harolds on this post will you truely die before you give up your gun to a law that “well regulates” some form of gun ownership, magazine capacity limitation, background check, etc? I think most if not all will not. Many of you seem to want to live in a society with no regulation (or very limited regulation) but many (I think most)of “us” do not, even many gun owners. Then there are those (Richard H. as an example)who suggest that apparently any gun owner or “freeman” (whatever that means to you)somehow constitutes a “Well Regulated Militia.” Please explain how you define the term “regulated” or “well regulated?” I for one do not want or need the likes of Richard H. or Harold or Al Luverne to protect me or my family in a movie theater, school, church, or public place. Thank you but I choose to live my life in a state of blissful ignorance and suspect that I will do just fine as I have for in excess of the past 50 years. Does this make me some sort of (pick your verb) fool, traitor to the 2nd Amendment, etc? I suspect that you will see some additional regulation. How much I can’t don’t know. It will be interesting, however, to see how all you big talkers react at that time.

By: Walking Turtle

Walking Turtle — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:00:42 +0000

Those who stand against the ownership of any firearm by aught but their own well-paid “security” goon-thugs seem to have overlooked this one thing among many others: The very SIGHT – nay, even the reliably KNOWLEDGE of a loaded weapon within reach of the Intended is an adequate deterrent in the vast majority of criminal assault cases.

Fact: Credible hardware in the Right Hands saves lives.

Having saved both my own life and those of a few others on one memorable occasion by means of arms visible and yet not fired, I for one insist that our rights as common-law Militia remain unabridged and inviolate.

Dominance-obsessed others of the Feinstein ilk just may likely top-down disagree with the Lawful common-law POV, of course. But all such shrieking and greedy powerplay aside, the wisdom of knowing ones’ enemy’s ways as well as their means is key to success in Hard Times: the content of URLs http://tinyurl.com/Rosenthal01 and http://tinyurl.com/Rosenthal02 may well prove well worth ones’ deep and dispassionate consideration at leisure.

Balanced against Old Sun Tsu’s wise advice to the Military Professional of his day re making certain that some form of escape route is made available to the Enemy, lest the Cornered Ones redouble their energetic self-defense out of sheer desperation and thus prevail… Only to not ever shoot ones’ own abiding National Interest in the foot while so doing, is the clear-cut ethical challenge as Yours Truly sees it.

So: Moderation in all things – INCLUDING moderation! High stakes here. And that is all. 0{:-)o<

By: Harold

Harold — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:09:03 +0000

I,m not you,r stupid bro and I,m not a redneck with a gun but I do enjoy my weapons and the right to use them no thanks to an @@@hole like u And I won’t give them up for the likes of you. I’ll die with them in my hands first

By: RichardH

RichardH — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:19:21 +0000

To Bananaman ~ What do you think is a “Well Regulated Militia?” It is any freeman willing and able to fight for his life, liberty, and country. A militia is therefore an army of one or more. Guns are tools, the people that use them in a wrong or inappropriate way are the stupid tool. Much like the uninformed libtard.

By: EthanP

EthanP — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:13:12 +0000

Paul; As I see it we face a two pronged problem. The first and obvious is of course the usually left wing gun banners. I say usually because there are many on the right also anti gun. These are the folks out in the open. Those we oppose every day.

Second, We have the internal enemy. By this I mean gun owners, many in the NRA and other pro gun organizations have an “it’s OK to ban yours, I don’t have “Them” and I don’t need “Them”. And this is NOT some minority fringe. I know many gun owners that feel this way. Indeed, I knew a range owner who felt this way, a gunshop owner, and several gunshop employees. We need to make sure they understand that eventually they will be in the line of fire. (pun intended)

As I have mentioned in other posts in this and other sites, The anti-gun grabbers come in two basic forms. The political. We can write them off. they will not ever compromise. We can only vote them out of office.
Then there are the ordinary anti-gun citizen. Some we may convert. Take them to the range. Teach them the joys of shooting.
But many are anti-gun out of fear. Most of my non gun owning friends (about 60% of my friends) are so affraid of guns that they refuse to go to the range with me. They have taught me that they fear guns. They fear gun owners. Some are so affraid they believe mot gun owners are one tantrum/drunk from an Aurora or Sandy Hook. They are unarmed and fear the armed. And I’ve yet to get one to change their veiws.

As I was writing, I had FOX NEWS on. They were talking about the Biden Commission. He’s looking to every far left gun grabbing group out there. He’s not interested in our side.

The left wing MSM and Pols say we need to have a conversation on gun control. A conversation require two views being aired. The only TV network that presents both sides fairly is FNC. The others all show the bias of the newscasters. And when the DO have a pro gun rep on, it’s all too often an extreamist who comes across poorly.

So I absolutely agree, NO COMPROMISE!

Water sleeps. Enemy NEVER rests.

By: rappini

rappini — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:32:12 +0000

Show me someone who doesn’t believe in the second Amendment and I’ll show you a bleeding heart liberal looking for a hand out from the Gov’t.

By: smokey

smokey — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:24:40 +0000

NO MORE COMPROMISE. We cannot let the government take any more of OUR liberties.

By: patriotline

patriotline — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:01:30 +0000

Bananaman DO NOT HIDE BEHIND ME !!

By: Helldogger

Helldogger — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:00:38 +0000

Exactly my sentiment. The debate is over. We have one gun law & it’s the only one we need. They need to balance my federal checkbook & don’t worry about my guns. Molon Lebe!

By: Billy Bullets

Billy Bullets — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:53:07 +0000

bananaman, Hey “Bro” Congratulations for saying the stupidest thing I’ve heard all week! A@@clown!

By: ErSwnn

ErSwnn — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:31:20 +0000

@ Bananaman: I’m guessing your extensive study of gun owners via Duke of Hazzard has led you to this insightful conclusion. Certainly you did not come by it through actual interactions with gun owners. In my own club are doctors, lawyers, at least two scientists, a fair amount of business owners, one state representative and yes, a few “rednecks”. Too bad you have no idea what a redneck really is, you might actually like tham.

Yes, we will throughly enjoy playing with our guns. Should a government intrusion or general civic disorder occur we beg you to not look to us for protection. We aren’t interested in the weakminded and cowardly.

As for the whole drone notion, you are not aware that in 1776 just 3% of the population defeated the strongest army on the planet. As the Second Amendment intended, the miltia (which BTW includes you, read the Federalist Papers), outnumbers the standing military. No worries, many of the citizens are former military and the knowledge to defeat the technology is available.

By: Cecil Flentge

Cecil Flentge — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:13:56 +0000

No criticism of our troops, but high tech tools has not worked well for the Russian or US Military in Afgan. Never underestimate the wronged citizen.

By: Ronald West

Ronald West — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:57:16 +0000

Very well said. I could not agree more. It’s time to take a stand. Gun owners unite!

By: Bananaman

Bananaman — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:43:20 +0000

Guns are stupid bro. A bunch of rednecks with guns is not a “well regulated militia”. Have fun using those guns to protect yourself from a government that had armed drones

By: John Thayer

John Thayer — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 02:34:50 +0000

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