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	<title>Comments on: Enemies of the Constitution &#8211; Progressives, Liberals, &amp; Marxists</title>
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		<title>By: Oathkeeper Vet</title>
		<link>http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/enemies-of-the-constitution-progressives-liberals-marxists/#comment-79887</link>
		<dc:creator>Oathkeeper Vet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely two sides of one nwo globalist coin. Republicans also have violated their oath. In as much they too belong in prison!   By and large however its not republicans who are  screetching like banshees to infringe upon the second amendment. There are some exceptions like Bloomberg etc. But they share infection of elitism ,and feel that they are entitled to the armed defense they would deny you as well. Also during Bush 2 , the secret police werent issuing inflammatory innuendo about dangerous left  wing radicals! Nor were they saying that returning peace corps volunteers were liable to domestic terroristic recruitment. Nope thats on the left . As is NDAA, Libya, Egypt,Benghazi, etc .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely two sides of one nwo globalist coin. Republicans also have violated their oath. In as much they too belong in prison!   By and large however its not republicans who are  screetching like banshees to infringe upon the second amendment. There are some exceptions like Bloomberg etc. But they share infection of elitism ,and feel that they are entitled to the armed defense they would deny you as well. Also during Bush 2 , the secret police werent issuing inflammatory innuendo about dangerous left  wing radicals! Nor were they saying that returning peace corps volunteers were liable to domestic terroristic recruitment. Nope thats on the left . As is NDAA, Libya, Egypt,Benghazi, etc .</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade Misfit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comrade Misfit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was not &quot;progressives, liberals and marxists&quot; who drafted the USA Patriot Act, which eviscerated the Fourth Amendment.  

It was not an administration of &quot;progressives, liberals and marxists&quot; where the president complained that the Constitution &quot;is just another goddamned piece of paper&quot;.  

It was not an administration of &quot;progressives, liberals and marxists&quot; that proclaimed the right to lock up anyone they chose without bringing charges or hearing the evidence in court.

You want to complain about fascistic tendencies on the left, then you had better clean up your act on the right-- something about not worrying about the speck in the other guy&#039;s eye when you have a stick in your own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was not &#8220;progressives, liberals and marxists&#8221; who drafted the USA Patriot Act, which eviscerated the Fourth Amendment.  </p>
<p>It was not an administration of &#8220;progressives, liberals and marxists&#8221; where the president complained that the Constitution &#8220;is just another goddamned piece of paper&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It was not an administration of &#8220;progressives, liberals and marxists&#8221; that proclaimed the right to lock up anyone they chose without bringing charges or hearing the evidence in court.</p>
<p>You want to complain about fascistic tendencies on the left, then you had better clean up your act on the right&#8211; something about not worrying about the speck in the other guy&#8217;s eye when you have a stick in your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[General welfare and public safety?  Well by the Justice depts own numbers violent crime is on the decline in a major way.  Even including places like Chicago into the annual statistics!  Hows &quot;gun control&quot; instead of criminal control working out for Chicago? Hmmmnnn?  I will take Texas ,or Wyoming anyday over Chicago.  The land where leftist democrats are in charge of everything and nothing works!   There is your liberal of today and its results.  Dont blame middle America and 90%`of our landmass if we arent impressed with what the &#039;liberal tradition&#039; has become.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General welfare and public safety?  Well by the Justice depts own numbers violent crime is on the decline in a major way.  Even including places like Chicago into the annual statistics!  Hows &#8220;gun control&#8221; instead of criminal control working out for Chicago? Hmmmnnn?  I will take Texas ,or Wyoming anyday over Chicago.  The land where leftist democrats are in charge of everything and nothing works!   There is your liberal of today and its results.  Dont blame middle America and 90%`of our landmass if we arent impressed with what the &#8216;liberal tradition&#8217; has become.</p>
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		<title>By: Oathkeeper Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oathkeeper Vet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 23:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So SBeecher Beecher says. That definition is that of the &quot;classical liberal&quot;. Not th e so called &quot;progressives&quot; ( read as statists) of today.  No classical liberal tradition has also a large measure of libertarianism, again unrecognizable from the &#039;liberals&#039; of today. In fact Jefferson was a classical liberal and he  by his own words would and did speak for the second amendment without reservation. You Sir/Ma&#039;m are entitled to your opinions , not facts. And trying to associate the &quot;liberals&quot;/ socialists/ marxist rabble of today with &#039;classical liberalism&#039; is out of order and has no basis in fact...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So SBeecher Beecher says. That definition is that of the &#8220;classical liberal&#8221;. Not th e so called &#8220;progressives&#8221; ( read as statists) of today.  No classical liberal tradition has also a large measure of libertarianism, again unrecognizable from the &#8216;liberals&#8217; of today. In fact Jefferson was a classical liberal and he  by his own words would and did speak for the second amendment without reservation. You Sir/Ma&#8217;m are entitled to your opinions , not facts. And trying to associate the &#8220;liberals&#8221;/ socialists/ marxist rabble of today with &#8216;classical liberalism&#8217; is out of order and has no basis in fact&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SBeecher</title>
		<link>http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/enemies-of-the-constitution-progressives-liberals-marxists/#comment-79864</link>
		<dc:creator>SBeecher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liberals are proud Americans.  The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are looked as one of the great hallmarks in the liberal tradition.  The use of the term liberal education refers to the entire tradition of seeking knowledge and contributing to civilization in a way that raises the intelligence level of humanity.
  That said,  arguments we have about whether or not the 2nd Amendment can tolerate public safety debate are less wide in scope.  It is not a debate about whether any American loves the Constitution or America less.  
  It would foster a climate for clear thinking to have clear analysis not clouded by emotionalism.
  The question is really a local public safety (general welfare) issue.  How de we deal with day after day, month after month, year after year the killing of too many peoria, especially children?  It seems like in the real world, background checks and gun buybacks may help.  Restoring funding to schools and mental health programs so they can do what they do better.   Figuring out why youth are so alienated and frustrated.  Those will take a lot of clear headed and persistent efforts.  None of it will be easy.  Name calling could make it worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals are proud Americans.  The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are looked as one of the great hallmarks in the liberal tradition.  The use of the term liberal education refers to the entire tradition of seeking knowledge and contributing to civilization in a way that raises the intelligence level of humanity.<br />
  That said,  arguments we have about whether or not the 2nd Amendment can tolerate public safety debate are less wide in scope.  It is not a debate about whether any American loves the Constitution or America less.<br />
  It would foster a climate for clear thinking to have clear analysis not clouded by emotionalism.<br />
  The question is really a local public safety (general welfare) issue.  How de we deal with day after day, month after month, year after year the killing of too many peoria, especially children?  It seems like in the real world, background checks and gun buybacks may help.  Restoring funding to schools and mental health programs so they can do what they do better.   Figuring out why youth are so alienated and frustrated.  Those will take a lot of clear headed and persistent efforts.  None of it will be easy.  Name calling could make it worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last time I check no part of the Constitution or Amendments has an expiration date,and never will. The candy ass liberals are about done.BH]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I check no part of the Constitution or Amendments has an expiration date,and never will. The candy ass liberals are about done.BH</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When a politician takes the oath of office he/she swears to defend and uphold the United States Constitution. Once they take office if the try and destroy and dismantle the U.S.Constitution that is treason ! The candy ass liberals seem to think they are something special and laws don&#039;t apply to them,and that the Constitution is something that can be manipulated for their own personal agendas. Start prosecuting this scum now !!! BH]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a politician takes the oath of office he/she swears to defend and uphold the United States Constitution. Once they take office if the try and destroy and dismantle the U.S.Constitution that is treason ! The candy ass liberals seem to think they are something special and laws don&#8217;t apply to them,and that the Constitution is something that can be manipulated for their own personal agendas. Start prosecuting this scum now !!! BH</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The person who wrote the pledge of allegience was a socialist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The person who wrote the pledge of allegience was a socialist.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Caruba makes several mistakes in his early paragraphs. 

One, Prof. Seidman&#039;s infamous essay did not say America&#039;s obsession with the Constitution was a good thing. Exactly the opposite, in fact.

Two, &quot;A literate population was able to read the Federal Papers&quot; should read &quot;Federalist Papers.&quot; This was a series of newspaper essays written by Madison and others arguing in favor of adopting the constitution. There was also a series of Anti-Federalist essays.

Third, the constitution was NOT sent to the state legislatures, but rather, to specially called state conventions. Debates were sometimes fierce. The New York and Virginia conventions were among the most dramatic. In short, opposition to the constitution was so strong it almost did not pass.

After ratification, one of the first orders of business of the First Federal Congress was creation of a Bill of Rights, which Madison himself wrote and shepherded through. Several amendments were sent to the states, but only ten were adopted.

The constitution was written by special delegates to the Philadelphia Convention, and then debated and adopted by citizens in special state conventions. Governments were not involved. This really was an effort of &quot;We the People.&quot;

The anti-gun crowd is historically illiterate enough without folks on our side muddling things further.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Caruba makes several mistakes in his early paragraphs. </p>
<p>One, Prof. Seidman&#8217;s infamous essay did not say America&#8217;s obsession with the Constitution was a good thing. Exactly the opposite, in fact.</p>
<p>Two, &#8220;A literate population was able to read the Federal Papers&#8221; should read &#8220;Federalist Papers.&#8221; This was a series of newspaper essays written by Madison and others arguing in favor of adopting the constitution. There was also a series of Anti-Federalist essays.</p>
<p>Third, the constitution was NOT sent to the state legislatures, but rather, to specially called state conventions. Debates were sometimes fierce. The New York and Virginia conventions were among the most dramatic. In short, opposition to the constitution was so strong it almost did not pass.</p>
<p>After ratification, one of the first orders of business of the First Federal Congress was creation of a Bill of Rights, which Madison himself wrote and shepherded through. Several amendments were sent to the states, but only ten were adopted.</p>
<p>The constitution was written by special delegates to the Philadelphia Convention, and then debated and adopted by citizens in special state conventions. Governments were not involved. This really was an effort of &#8220;We the People.&#8221;</p>
<p>The anti-gun crowd is historically illiterate enough without folks on our side muddling things further.</p>
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