Comments on: ArmaLite’s Statement Supporting the Firearms Equality Movement

By: DanielT

DanielT — Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:29:43 +0000

Have to agree with the vast majority of comments here. I will never buy an ArmaLite product. No matter how you dress it up, Hypocrisy is Hypocrisy. You’re with us and the 2nd Amendment or your against us. There is no middle ground on this issue. ArmaLite, you’re trying to place yourself in the middle of the road here. Know what happens to people (corporations) that stand in the middle of the road? They get run over. I hope the rest of the Firearm buyers in this country stop buying from ArmaLite. We may lose a few thousand more jobs, but this principle is more important. ArmaLite EMPLOYEES. Talk to your management. Or you may find yourselves out of a job.

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By: DaveGinOly

DaveGinOly — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 08:51:08 +0000

Sorry, support for individual LEOs by way of permitting them to purchase firearms for use in the course of their official duties is no different from selling directly to LE agencies directly because it accomplishes the same end – it arms LE with weapons not available to the citizens in their states. Or rather, I can say that it fails to accomplish the intent of refusing to sell banned arms/magazines direct to LE agencies – to put the pinch on them as their states have put on their citizens, in order to demonstrate to them that they are not above the law and that they deserve treatment no different from citizens (or, conversely, that citizens deserve the same respect as their civil servants).

You are correct that denial of these weapons to LE (either individually or through their respective agencies) is “no more proper” than denying the citizens of those states these same weapons, but that’s the point – to demonstrate that these weapons have utility, forcing the states to recognize that utility by discomforting their LE agencies and LEOs to the point where their voices will be added to ours in decrying these laws.

Claiming that you’re refusing to arm LE agencies under certain conditions while still arming the individual LEOs is a distinction without a difference.

By: Ken

Ken — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:44:02 +0000

Seems like noone is falling for the old “smoke and mirrors” deal. Sorry….. I’m with them…..bye,bye….

By: 2nddefender

2nddefender — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:27:03 +0000

I do not support this reasoning. Better quality products are available from other suppliers that support the US Citizens Gun Rights and the 2nd Amendment, time to move on.

By: Deerhttr

Deerhttr — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 02:24:18 +0000

Armalite is putting profit over principle. Not the first time that has happened in this world of ours. Bad decision. No Armalite guns for me.

Americans didn’t win their freedom without a fight. Of course that was back when “men were men” and were willing to fight for what was right. I’m not sure present day Americans have what it takes to do that. Remember Obama got voted into office by the people. Should be an interesting future in this country with the goverment out of control like it is.
When there is a firearms mfg. that refuses to take a strong stand against gun control when they are offered the opportunity it could be a sign of real trouble coming in the future.
I am old so it won’t affect me much either way. Young people though should fighting the gun control movement every inch of the way. Letters, phone calls and letters to the editor of newspapers should be clogging up the mail and phone lines. More needs to be done. It is your freedom at stake here folks.

By: fckarmalite

fckarmalite — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 22:09:44 +0000

What a traitor, just like Dianne Feinstein. I will not purchase any Armalite product ever, that would be like funding mongrel Obama’s attack on the 2nd amendment. “Ain’t gonna do it”

By: nature223

nature223 — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:43:31 +0000

whatever mark…you support those who dont recognize the 2ND, ergo I wont give you my money.
go away..

By: buck

buck — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:28:12 +0000

Then at least vow not to sell to the FEDERAL government and its unconstitutional agencies , not guns , not accessaries , not repair parts and not Ammunition . Homeland does NOT need 7,000 full auto capable M-16 and tons of ammunition , and the TSA needs NOTHING .

By: HBH

HBH — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:57:18 +0000

Armalite is either with us or agains’t us ! They ain’t with us ! HBH

By: Fred

Fred — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:32:33 +0000

There is no compromising in protecting the 2nd Amendment in this country. The comments from the owner of ArmaLite sends chills down my spine. “From My Cold Dead Hands” is my motto! In this case, it appears that “a little more cash in our hands” is the motto of ArmaLite and is more important than protecting the 2nd Amendment!

By: HBH

HBH — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:35:11 +0000

The following was written by Pat Riley, Master Armorer/Sales Rep. With Armalite. “Dear concerned gun owner,You need to convince the law enforcement agencies and common people about their mistake in electing these officials and have them removed.Again,NOT the manufacture.” AR Stands for ArmaLite. Respectfully,Pat Riley

By: MarylandShooter

MarylandShooter — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:32:46 +0000

No matter how you say it, the fact is Armalite will sell an AR15 to NYS LEO, but not NYS non-LEO.

So the armed men coming to arrest you for having an AR15 will be carry Armalite.

They are arming the foot soldier of tyrants and that’s the simple truth.

No Armalite products for me.

By: Fred

Fred — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:25:48 +0000

Armalite seems like the money sounds better than the 2nd Amendment. I think you just lost a lot of customers.

By: DLSmith

DLSmith — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 15:37:29 +0000

As this is a “us versus them” you have placed yourself on the “them” side . I hope you remember that.

By: Dats Right

Dats Right — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 15:32:52 +0000

Those LE agencies will use those very rifles at your door if you refuse to relinquish your arms.

By: Jerrys Kidds

Jerrys Kidds — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 15:28:30 +0000

Mark, great work by the way. Run for Office please. We need more like you

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 15:23:35 +0000

We must not compromise. That includes manufactures. they cannot tell which officers do or don’t support the 2nd amendment. The whole point is to apply leverage to the states, counties or states that introduce illegal and unconstitutional laws. You cannot do this by doing what Armalite is doing. They are compromising.

By: Jerrys Kidds

Jerrys Kidds — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 15:21:43 +0000

Wow!! Did I just read the the most poorest excuse for Why this Clown will support his “So Called” police who have to buy the own weapons. Damit!! What the hell is it going to take. Also When are we going to remove that person from the W/H What the hell is going on in our country my God~~ô¿ô~~

By: MadMike

MadMike — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 15:18:43 +0000

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

By: Jersey Chris

Jersey Chris — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 15:03:21 +0000

This is only an attempt by Armalite to co-opt the fuzzy middle. Just another BMW/Diamler in the hands of the Reichstag. My lust for an AR-10 just evaporated. I won’t contribute a dime to an organization that would plead for tolerance while feeding the forces of constitutional destruction. I hope you do we’ll when the boots you lick dictate your existence. FU Armalite!

By: Jersey Mark

Jersey Mark — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 14:45:04 +0000

Mark,
If your reason for doing what you are doing is to try and please both sides, you failed miserably, as you can see by these replies. My feeling is that, if nothing else, you made a very poor business decision. You had it within your power to help strengthen this equality movement and you chose to weaken it. I think you’re company’s bottom line in the very near future will bear that out. Besides this being a money decision, more importantly, its a citizens right issue and I believe you are standing on the wrong side. There are a hell of a lot more of us civilians than there are LE, government goons, etc. If I were you, I’d reconsider that fence sitting, wishy-washy policy. Thank you.

By: foxmuldar

foxmuldar — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 14:32:05 +0000

Great so all a cop has to do is say yeah I support you guys and the Second Amendment and they get to buy a gun and ammo. What a cop out. We we go to purchase a pistol or rifle, we have to fill out a form that asks us who our employer is and what work we do. Anyone from New York being honest and stating they are a cop should not be sold anything. When push comes to shove, do you really believe they will support us citizens or their jackass boss Bloomberg and Cuomo?

By: HBH

HBH — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 14:31:03 +0000

I have one last statement on this issue. Armalite,there firearm manufacturing businesses,ammo manufacturing/supply businesses,magazine,..etc.that are looking to relocate to states that respect and live by,..and even die for,the US Constitution,and that includes the 2′nd Amendment ! Your company is making a decision that is a slap in the face to Americans who live by and respect the US Constitution,..all of it !!! I really hope that you reconsider your postion.HBH

By: RD

RD — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:48:25 +0000

This unified response to the armalite position is clear indication that this is absolutely a black & white issue, no gray area here. To arm those who would disarm law-abiding citizens is wrong, and for we the people to support armalite in any way, is equally and clearly wrong. There is no such thing as a little treason.

By: Casper

Casper — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:38:21 +0000

Mark,
I know and understand your thinking on this.
I also know how strong you feel on our 2nd as we have spoken years ago. The problem with your “statement’ that everyone is having is those “rank and file officers” in these banned now and coming states didn’t stand up as a “force” and tell their political leaders that they will not go along with this. Then they could even push to move this the our way. They have abandoned you, US and our 2nd as a right. If your “brothers in arms” won’t stand up for you and US as a whole then their not our brothers. The police have much more influence over gun policy with our political leaders than us civilians do.
Just think for a minute, in New York’s case with the mag ban, if instead of cops bitching about them now not being able to carry more than 7 rounds, that they all stood up and said NO to the laws that the Mayor and others were trying to pass before it went to vote? Imagine if your brothers actually “Served” US the people in a positive light for once instead of seeing when their new drone they ordered is coming in, or licking their lips on all the new big bad AR-15 Rifles they will get from door swatting law abiding citizens. So many “brothers” have lost their way and forget that we the tax payers provide the funds for their employment. They are to Protect and Serve US but so many just see us lonely Civilians or “dirt” some like to calls us” as second class and beneath their boots so to say.
Now is the time if you’re a Cop, Civilian, political leader”s”, our Military, Ammo manufacturers, suppliers, and the firearms industry as a whole “not just the AR-15 crowd” cause your hunting rifle will be the new “Sniper rifle” next. We have to stand up and say NO, NO, NO you will not infringe on our 2nd amendment right period. We can not yield as we are about to lose it all with just a stroke of a pen.
I hope you look at you policy and reconsider. I know you mean well and have strong views on this from your time as an officer. Our Government is going for broke and we just can’t be playing it safe on this one cause their not.
The next “movement” will be getting the Ammo manufacturers and suppliers to suspend Gov ammo contracts until the Civilian shortage is relived.

By: 963d AWACS

963d AWACS — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:33:19 +0000

Armalite’s position is nothing more than compromise in order to maintain their cash flow. They will compromise us right into tyranny. I take Ammoland to task also for their misleading headline for this story. Armalite does not support the Firearms Equality Movement. They support their own profit motive. How about changing the headline Ammoland?

By: VFP

VFP — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 12:24:58 +0000

Banned in Maryland. At least I know what to expect from LE when they kick down my door to take my (6) round S&W 380, which will probably soon be banned also. I am sure I could defend against the Armalite AR10A SuperSASS 7.62 RIFLE with that. Your argument makes perfect sense to me. I am sure that MSP agrees with your position too.

After all, we have ATK here producing millions of bullets for the Gov also; probably the very bullets that will be fired from your restricted guns. How cool is that?

By: HBH

HBH — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 08:45:12 +0000

He refers to LE as “rank and file”as though Armalite has a moral obligation to sale to them even though they would not hestitate for a damn second to arrest us for exercising our SECOND AMENDMENT freedoms. Armalite just continue to sell your weapons to state and local governments that ban the very weapons you manufacture,…hopefully that will be the only business you ever get. HBH

By: Mark C.Hopp Sr.

Mark C.Hopp Sr. — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 08:35:02 +0000

Your company, do what you like. I hope the LE do not use your weapons on the citizens of our country. It is coming!

By: Tarcy

Tarcy — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 08:24:17 +0000

He is only looking at short term income. NOT the long term (income) picture. he will have plenty of free time on his hands to do other things!

By: HBH

HBH — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 08:17:25 +0000

Armalite can’t have it both ways.I’ve never purchased nothing from Armalite and glad I didn’t. If there is anything good that comes out of this we are finding out where firearms related businesses stood when shit hit the fan.Lest we never forget ! HBH

By: DrSique

DrSique — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:40:34 +0000

Been looking at the AR-10 SASS for a while. Oh well, Larue Tactical is doing the right thing and they put together one hell of a rifle.

By: Cope Reynolds

Cope Reynolds — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:02:36 +0000

Mark, you have just cemented our opinion of you and your company. I am a dealer and I will not have your products in our store anymore. I could go on and on about supporting the American people but I think you get the picture.

By: Kotta

Kotta — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 05:53:50 +0000

Hopefully, the LE Officers buying are members of Oath Keepers. This organization’s members are current and former LEO’s and military who will abide by their original oath to uphold the Constitution. Period.