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NY SAFE Act: From Death Knell To Grave Site at 1240FPS for NYS Youth Marksmanship Programs
By Alan Chwick

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Youth Marksmanship Programs In New York State Are Dead

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New York --(Ammoland.com)-As I talked about in my previous Letter to the Editor, at Ammoland (Ammoland article, “NY SAFE Act: Collateral Damage Rings Death Knell for Youth Marksmanship Programs”, June 11, 2013, the NY SAFE Act rang the death knell for NYs’ Youth Marksmanship Programs.

Now, the inevitable has became reality – - YOUTH MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS IN NEW YORK STATE ARE DEAD!

Managing Coach of the Freeport Junior Club (FJC) (www.FreeportJuniorClub.org) we rely on donations and fund-raising, as does other programs such as 4-H, Boy Scouts, Future Farmers of America, JROTC, Conservation Programs, etc. to sustain our program. But most of all, we rely on manufacturers’ generosity in their Youth Purchase Programs.

In past years, we have utilized the Youth Purchase Programs of gun, accessory and ammunition manufacturers. But, the NY SAFE Act has done us in! Not speaking for any other program, and looking at the prospects for the FJC only, without the ammo purchase programs, we are OUT OF BUSINESS.

Simple stated, a provision of the NY SAFE Act deals with the direct sales (Internet, mail order, face-to-face, etc.) of ammunition to private citizens. Under the law, all ammo sales require a NICS-type background check from a dealer.

The problem here, is that the Youth Purchase Programs, which supply ammo for youth programs at a highly discounted rate, are setup for direct delivery only, as this ammo is not to enter the retail supply chain. Going to an FFL for a background check would be placing the ammo in the retail supply chain.

On this issue, I contacted my NYS Senator Charles Fuschillo, who, by the way, voted “YEAH” on the NY SAFE Act. He, in turn, contacted the Governor’s office, who, in turn, had Officer Kevin Bruin of the New York State Police call me. I put Officer Bruin in touch with Mr. Steve Miller, Executive Director of the Youth Shooting Sports Alliance (YSSA).

After all is said and done, Mr. Miller has informed me that this type of ammo exchange is deemed (by NYSP) to be a sale, and therefore within the scope of the NY SAFE Act, and thereby not permissible without a background check, as opposed to what I was informed prior (See: ibid).

THE DEATH KNELL JUST BECAME A FUNERAL MARCH FOR NYS YOUTH PROGRAMS! AND ALL NYS LEGISLATORS ARE INVITED.

The funeral is a money issue for Youth Programs. We currently fundraise 98% of our functioning funds, with the remainder coming from membership dues. Besides ammo, which is our largest expense, we need to supply targets (both paper & steel), target backers, repair and replace equipment, etc. Normally, these expenses cost about $7-8000 per year, with ammo costing $5000 or more (based upon our usage of 100-150,000 rounds per year).

Being that the NY SAFE Act will force us to now purchase ammunition from the normal retail supply chain, our ammo costs will rise by at least three times, to a whooping $15,000 or more. And considering that all of us are volunteers, there are very few NY youth programs that can spend the time needed to raise this kind of money, which will bring our yearly expenses to $17-18,000 or more.

The Governor of NYS and the New York State Legislature HAVE DESTROYED Youth Marksmanship programs, and the safety they teach, in NYS. My father always said that “nothing good comes when a legislature is in session.”

Sincerely,

Alan Chwick, Managing Coach
Freeport Junior Program
www.FreeportJuniorClub.org
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  • 17 User comments to “Youth Marksmanship Programs In New York State Are Dead”

    1. Rev W H Musser on June 19, 2013 at 2:16 AM said:

      It’s no secret that this is precisely what that act intended! If the YOUTH of America cannot be raised in the shooting SPORTS then there will soon BE NO shooting sports as we oldsters die off! As soon as gun owners and shooters become an OBVIOUS minority the nation is DOOMED!!

    2. icetrout on June 19, 2013 at 7:30 AM said:

      New Yorker’s have brought this on themselves…

    3. bill tapp on June 19, 2013 at 7:52 AM said:

      lets vote Como out of office , he a little hitler like dad ,DOWN WITH COMO

    4. Not all NYers. Just the ones from down in the city. I only know 2 people that applauds Cuomo’s move and they moved from the city up here.
      I have seen first hand the benefits of these training programs. Adults dealing with kids as YOUNG adults. Grade scores get better, they deal with adults better as well.
      Such a shame that these liberals cannot see this.

    5. icetrout, what kind of uninformed comment is that! Do a little research, virtually all of upstate has denounced this un-safe act.

    6. Becker on June 19, 2013 at 9:19 AM said:

      As one guy use to say in the army, “NYC is not “NY State.” Maybe it should be 2 states, N. NY & S. NY.

    7. Eric Holder on June 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM said:

      “What we need to do is change the way in which people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that’s not cool, that it’s not acceptable, it’s not hip to carry a gun anymore, in the way in which we changed our attitudes about cigarettes.”

    8. Eric Holder on June 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM said:

      “What we need to do is change the way in which people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that’s not cool, that it’s not acceptable, it’s not hip to carry a gun anymore, in the way in which we changed our attitudes about cigarettes.”

    9. David Murphy on June 19, 2013 at 10:57 AM said:

      Keep voting democratic in NY, this is what it brought you, think of the joys yet to come.

    10. chefddubb on June 19, 2013 at 11:09 AM said:

      Without youth shooting sports education, we will never ne able to bring the responsibility of gun ownership into a positive light again. The only point I agree with holder on is that we need to stop thinking carrying a gun is “cool”… Carrying a firearm is a right, it is a responsibility, and it should be exercised by more free citizens, not demonized by a government that is plagued with scandals,and subverts the constitution to push their own agenda. CITIZENS ARE ARMED, SUBJECTS ARE NOT…

    11. Oldladygunslinger on June 19, 2013 at 4:58 PM said:

      There has to be a way to get around this. Why not have the discounted ammo set to a state that doesn’t have our wonderful laws. We live close to Pa. and would have no problem picking up ammo. No need to tell anyone where it came from. Does it say anywhere in the law that you can’t borrow ammo from a fried who has been collecting it for years and has plenty???

    12. Garvin Durrant on June 20, 2013 at 1:01 AM said:

      Don’t leave the state, don’t skirt the law, get rid of the legislature and repeal the law. It’s your state damn it fight for it. If you can’t do it in the ballet box then figure another way. Don’t let them win, you have the numbers, force their hand, show them for what they are. Other wise state by state we all lose.

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    15. MICHAEL J FEEKO SR on June 24, 2013 at 11:45 AM said:

      WHY DO I NEED A WEB SITE TO EXPRESS MY OPINION TO THIS HITLERIZED LAW. AS A TAX PAYER AND VOTER I SEE THIS COUNTRY GOING DOWN THE TUBES VERY QUICKLY AND A VETERAN OF 22 YEARS. WITH SHOOTING TRAINING IF THE NEED BE TO HAVE AN ARMY TO DEFEND US THEN WE NEED THOSE THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW HOW TO USE WEAPONS NOT AFTER WE ARE INVADED. SGT YORK KNEW WHICH END OF A WEAPON WAS THE DEADLY ONE AND HE FOUGHT FOR PEACE NOT TO CONQUER.PEOPLE LIKE CUOMO AND BLOOMBERG OUGHT TO LIVE IN ISREAL FOR A YEAR AND SEE WHAT IT MEANS TO NOT BE FREE.

    16. Patriot on June 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM said:

      http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/bloomberg-gun-group-site-registered-to-nyc-93182.html

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3zpt4Fbiw4&feature=youtu.be
      Prior to taking office, President Obama sat on the board of the Joyce Foundation, an anti-gun organization that is the largest funding source for radical anti-gun groups in the nation. In 1996, Obama supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns. In 1999, he proposed a 500 percent excise tax on firearms and ammunition. In 2005, Obama voted against legislation to protect homeowners from prosecution in cases where they used a firearm to halt a home invasion.
      The deadly attacks in Connecticut and Colorado have fueled Obama’s hatred for guns and gun rights, and he’s moving rapidly to dramatically restrict our rights to bear arms.
      I strongly oppose Obama’s undermining our Second Amendment rights and the thought that the federal government – not the people have the ultimate power.
      I am urging you to stand against any and all attempts by this administration to encroach on my Second Amendment rights.
      Thank you
      Norman

    17. What you fail to grasp is that turning America’s youth against guns is per the Progressive plan.

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