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The Ups And Downs of Indiana Gun Bills

Thursday, February 18th, 2010 at 9:31 PM

The Ups And Downs of Indiana Gun Bills

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Indianapolis, IN --(AmmoLand.com)- It seems like things are getting ugly with getting HB 1065, the carry to the workplace bill, moved to passage.

HB 1065 has been in the meat grinder going on two months now and it was supposed to get a second reading in the senate Monday. Weather was a factor on Monday’s postponement.

Pro Tem Sen. Long did not let Sen. Steele proceed with the bill because of some technicality, which has me concerned about the effect the Chamber of Commerce lobbyists and their unrelenting pressure they are applying on senators is having.

The bill is now scheduled to be heard on Thursday. The situation is that the longer it’s delayed the more time the C of C and various business opponents have to brow beat some senators into submission. You may ask where our side is. Well, first let me say that the NRA lobbyist, Ashley Varner, has almost taken up residence in the State House over the past several weeks. She’s been keeping me posted on the proceedings. Also, our good friends with the ISRP have been updating us.

It’s now getting real nasty with the opposition demanding ridiculous amendments and consuming time, with our friends working to deny them or remove those amendments. For those fighting to kill this bill with chains of burdensome amendments it’s gone beyond logic, reason and prudence.

I might ask what have each of us has done for the cause. Have you made a call into your particular senator and encouraged them to pass this bill? It just takes a simple toll free call that will use up all of two minutes to do. These guys have got to know that this thing is being watched by people other that C of C lobbyists. You have no idea the power you hold. All you have to do is use it. The number is 1-800-382-9467 and I’ll bet your phone is as close as your pocket.

I was told by one of our sources last night that Governor Daniels was speaking to a group of Chamber of Commerce people in Bloomington. In all of the questions and issues he fielded someone asked him about HB 1065. I was told that his response was that if the bill would come to his desk he’s not sure if he would sign it because it’s a situation where property rights meet individual rights.

There are two things to consider here. First, there was Constitution long before there was Chamber of Commerce. I fully support property rights, but in this case the rights are being extended beyond the property in question because polices prohibiting a person from exercising their Constitutional right to have a firearm locked in their vehicle while at work means they are bound to be in transit to and from the workplace unarmed. Secondly, Constitutional rights trumps arbitrary individual policies.

Now, if the Governor does not want to commit to supporting this bill because he’s standing in the waters of people who oppose it, that would be his prerogative. A friendly call or e-mail to the Governor’s office to support this bill would be very helpful. If he chooses not to sign this bill it’s one thing, just so he doesn’t veto it. If the bill does make it to his desk and he chooses not to sign it and he takes no action, on the eighth day after it’s presented to him it automatically will become law. It will then be filed with the Secretary of State within 10 days of presentment and even if it’s failed to be filed, it will still become law.

I’ve received a report that the Senate Democrats walked out Tuesday over a controversial spending bill introduced by Sen. Errington (D) and did not return to session and may not come back Thursday which would push HB 1065 farther down the calendar.

Jim and Margie
2nd Amendment Patriots
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The Second Amendment Patriots are a local group of citizens dedicated to preserving the rights, freedoms, and civil liberties of every American by educating the American public of the founding and history of this country and its founding fathers by explaining the role, functions and purpose of the U.S. Government; and by teaching the need and importance of an armed American public, in order to allow for a more prosperous and respectful country consisting of American citizens with a pledge of allegiance to their country and who will at the same time, voice their demand to take back the present overwhelming power of the U.S. Government and deliver it into the hands of the people to which it belongs.

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Joyce And Her Gun

Monday, January 11th, 2010 at 12:43 PM

Joyce And Her Gun

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Indianapolis, IN --(AmmoLand.com)- Those of you who have been a part of the 2nd Amendment Patriots for some years may remember back in 2007 when a lady who lived here in Evansville, IN came to our group about an incident she was involved in while traveling through New York.

She had her firearm with her as she flew to visit her friend in Vermont as she had done on many occasions.  As always everything was in order and in compliance with all federal and TSA (Transportation Security Administration) regulations.

Only this time she had the misfortune of having to deal with the Albany, NY Sheriff’s Department who had a office in the airport.  A deputy sheriff who apparently was ignorant of federal law confiscated Joyce’s handgun and placed her under arrest.

Joyce attended one of our Patriot meetings shortly after all this happened and at that meeting the good folks in attendance started proceedings to help her.  There’s a great deal to write about as this ordeal unfolded, more than what space will allow.

I spoke with Joyce today and I’ve copied a letter she sent me for all of you to read.  I want to also thank our good friend Jeff Knox, with the Knox Firearms Coalition and Larry Pratt, Director of Gun Owners of America and Ginny Simone with the NRA radio program whom I did several taped interviews with that brought them on board as well.

We are very happy for Joyce who had the determination and courage to fight the injustice she was dealt.  Joyce is now living in Massachusetts with her husband, Paul.

I hope that her perseverance not to quit will be an example for all of us and Margie and I also hope it encourages everyone to continue to STAY UNITED with the 2nd Amendment Patriots.  We hope to see you on the 30th.

Below is Joyce’s letter.
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I would like to personally thank all the members of the Second Amendment Patriots of Evansville Indiana for all their support and good will and gifts.

The State of New York returned my Kimber Ultra II Raptor 45 in December of 2009.

The Colonie Sheriff’s office confiscated the firearm on Feb. 11, 2007 at the Albany Airport.  The Record of the event has been expunged according to the Colonie Court System.

I have received my firearm license for the State of Massachusetts in November 2009 and now look forward to joining a local club where I can once again enjoy the competition and camaraderie with people who believe firmly in the Second Amendment in the State of Massachusetts.

God Bless you All! Kindest Regards,

Joyce

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Jim and Margie
2nd Amendment Patriots
STAY UNITED
www.2ndamendmentpatriots.org

About:
The Second Amendment Patriots are a local group of citizens dedicated to preserving the rights, freedoms, and civil liberties of every American by educating the American public of the founding and history of this country and its founding fathers by explaining the role, functions and purpose of the U.S. Government; and by teaching the need and importance of an armed American public, in order to allow for a more prosperous and respectful country consisting of American citizens with a pledge of allegiance to their country and who will at the same time, voice their demand to take back the present overwhelming power of the U.S. Government and deliver it into the hands of the people to which it belongs.

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