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Virginia Castle Doctrine & Constitutional Carry Reports

Wednesday, February 8th, 2012 at 8:57 AM
Virginia Gun Owners Coalition

Virginia Gun Owners Coalition

Virginia --(Ammoland.com)- VA Gun Owners; The good news is that Castle Doctrine passed the Senate but Constitutional Carry is being killed by its bill sponsor Mark Cole.

Castle Doctrine moves to the House.

The Senate vote is below.

YEAS–Black, Blevins, Carrico, Garrett, Hanger, Martin, McDougle, McWaters, Newman, Norment, Northam, Obenshain, Petersen, Puckett, Reeves, Ruff, Smith, Stanley, Stosch, Stuart, Vogel, Wagner, Watkins–23.

NAYS–Barker, Colgan, Deeds, Ebbin, Edwards, Favola, Herring, Howell, Locke, Lucas, Marsden, Marsh, McEachin, Miller, J.C., Miller, Y.B., Puller, Saslaw–17.

Constitutional Carry was going to be carried by some freshman delegates who got elected with my support but they got talked out of it by Republican Party Boss William Howell.

He convinced them to let one of his trusted chairmen, Mark Cole, run the bill. Now where is HB 139? No where! Not even assigned to a committee for a vote.

Why because Howell can’t trust the Democrats to kill the bills he wants killed.

That’s right!

HB 1052 allowing carry at airport baggage claims and ticket counters passed out of the kill committee 3-2.

Why?
Because an anti-gun Democrat was tired of Republican Party Boss Howell’s game of sending a bill he wants killed to a tiny sub-committee of 5 to be killed by 2 pro-gun delegates and 3 anti-gun delegates.

Three cheers for the smart Democrat.

That is funny enough in and of itself but what is really hysterical and a story for the  - Political Museum of 2nd Amendment Absurdities - is Republican Party Boss lap dog Mark Cole’s explanation to VGOC members as to why he sponsored a bill he planned to kill by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING – - nothing except insure that a new delegate did not run the bill and get a recoded vote.

Below is Cole’s explanation in BLACK w ith my interpretation in RED

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From: Mark Cole [mailto:DelMCole@house.virginia.gov]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:31 AM
To: Ron Browne
Subject: Re: HB 139 Constitutional Carry.

Thank you for contacting me regarding HB 139. First let me say that no gun group (you and all the other members of VGOC who contacted me don’t count) or organization has contacted me with a request to discharge the committee considering HB 139. Unfortunately, I do not expect HB 139 to get a hearing this session (Because I intend to do nothing). It has a negative fiscal impact on state revenues, and since the budget is tight, even if it were to pass the Militia and Police Committee it would be sent to Appropriations where it would die due to lack of funding.it (Actually it won’t require funds but might lose some revenue and obviously taxes are more important than constitutional rights.)

Also, some legislators who are normally pro-gun, and whose votes we need for passage, are not sure HB 139 is a good idea. (They like being able to access your name in a government data base to use at election time to get your vote or raise money talking about how pro-gun they are). Sometimes ideas need to simmer a while before people eventually come around. It took nearly a decade (Which involved much pressure to discharge and multiple mailings into Senator Hanger’s District exposing him for actually killing the bill several times to protect anti-gun Reublicans from voting on the record) to get enough people to come around to repeal the restaurant ban. (Please try to forget that we had to wait to get a Democrat Senate Majority so that Hanger could no longer protect his anti-gun Republicans thus giving him an opportunity to run the bill and clean his skirts) The same for repealing one-gun-a-month, but we are on the verge of passing it.

If we had pushed too hard like some lobbyists had demanded back then, all it would have done was harden the opposition (Please don’t get mad at me for trying to blame gun owners for wanting their gun rights restored) and we would not have gotten them passed at all. (Please believe me when I say that all of us down here vote for what’s right not what makes our party bosses happy by keeping them in office by keeping controversial votes off the record. And please don’t talk to those lobbyists who threatened Senator Hanger’s job and motivated him to run the bill to clean his skirts.)

In Proverbs 25:15 the Bible offers us some good advice on what it takes to sway people on issues like this, patience and gentle persuasion. (Please don’t notice that this is in reference to kings who cannot be voted out of office even though patience and a soft tongue actually do break the political backbones of politicians when they think their job is on the line. The judge in Luke 18 is instructive but please don’t read that. And please don’t walk softly and carry a big stick when you approach me. It scares me.) It will probably take several years to get HB 139 passed IF we approach it correctly. If not, then it will never pass. (Which is really my plan and please don’t ask me why I ran the bill. It would embarrass me.)

I am pleased to report that 3 of my 4 gun bills are moving forward in the House this year (HB 22, HB 25, and HB 26). (I love to sponsor minor bills that are not controversial.) As I mentioned before, the House has passed a repeal of one gun a month and two years ago we were successful in repealing e restaurant ban. 2nd Amendment rights are moving forward in the Commonwealth!

I guarantee you that NONE of that would have happened had pro-gun legislators bowed to pressure from some gun lobbyists to make futile attempts to discharge committees (Please believe this because it will help me continue to sponsor legislation that I have no intention of even getting a hearing on. It is critical that I continue to teach gun owners what my party boss wants them to do. Remember I represent the party boss not gun owners. And please don’t ask me why in the world I sponsor bills that don’t even get a committee hearing, it will make me look foolish.) and add non-germane floor amendments to other bills. (And of course please don’t remind me that what is germaine is what the Speaker rules to be germaine.) Not every gun lobbyist knows how to get legislation through. In fact, some do more harm than good. (Because they won’t play by the rules we use to screw them.)

Again, thank you for contacting me.

Mark L. Cole
Delegate, 88th District
Spotsylvania, Stafford, Fredericksburg, and Fauquier

ACTION ITEM: Email Mark Cole at DelMCole@house.virginia.gov the following:

Dear Mr. Cole,

Please don’t ever run Constitutional Carry again. We need someone who will use the rules to get recorded votes. We will never get controversial legislation passed if we never get votes on the record for use at election time. We hate losing but we would rather lose with a recorded vote than lose by sitting around waiting for ideas to “simmer”.

For Liberty,
Mike McHugh
President, VGOC

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Virginia Gun Owners Coalition is Virginia’s only no-compromise, non-partisan gun lobby patterned after Gun Owners of America on Capitol Hill. VGOC is a non-profit tax-exempt organization under 501(c)(4) of the IRS code. Because we lobby politicians to protect and defend the 2nd Amendment, contributions are not tax deductible for IRS purposes. Visit: www.vgoc.org

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New Jersey Castle Doctrine Committee Volunteers Wanted

Monday, February 6th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Castle Doctrine

New Jersey Castle Doctrine Committee Volunteers Wanted

New Jersey Second Amendment Society

New Jersey Second Amendment Society

New Jersey --(Ammoland.com)- It is late at night in the dark of winter.

You pull into your driveway with your wife and family in the car.

You notice something is not right. You KNOW that light was not on when you left your home. Is that broken glass by the front door. Suddenly someone comes running out of your house with a gun in their hand.

What do you do? If you live in New Jersey, you can do nothing but experience the sheer TERROR of knowing that you and your family are at the mercy of some low-life animal.

OR

It’s the middle of the night, you think you hear something. You look out the window and you see someone breaking into your new car. Do you get your defensive handgun to protect yourself before going to your door. NOPE – not in New Jersey, unless you want to face a conviction for felony possession. Instead you can run to the phone and dial 911 as some (expletive deleted) career criminal drives away with $30,000.00 of your hard-earned money.

There are many other similar scenarios, all of which leave you, the law-abiding individual, to the whims of a potentially murderous dirt bag! The reason is that we who live and work in New Jersey are not protected by an adequate castle doctrine. This is a separate issue from being allowed to obtain a concealed carry permit. A Castle Doctrine is simply a body of laws which SHOULD be in place to protect our lives and loved ones when we are merely going about the daily routine of our lives, in our homes and vehicles.

I am not one to propose a problem without providing a solution. The solution is for us to form a DEDICATED sub-committee of the Legal/Legislative committee whose job it is to develop a comprehensive Castle Doctrine for New Jersey. Members will be able to glean the best ideas from those laws which are already in place in other states such as Pennsylvania, Virginia, Arizona and Florida. You don’t need a law degree to work on this committee. All that is required is a sincere belief and a desire to assist in the development and promotion of a comprehensive Castle Doctrine to protect our lives and loved ones.

It is my sincere belief that NOW IS THE TIME to begin working on this essential change to New Jersey’s Firearms Statutes. I personally refuse to believe we cannot achieve this goal. To those who say “Why not just go for the Holy Grail of CCW?”, all I can say is there are those we can convince to support a Castle Doctrine, who will NOT help us fight for CCW at THIS TIME. That is not to suggest that we will not go forward with plans to fight for CCW, but that may very well be decided in the courts.

A comprehensive Castle Doctrine is something *WE* can work toward RIGHT NOW!

If you agree, and would like to work on this committee, please contact legislation@nj2as.com. Please expect to be able to devote at LEAST one hour a week to this project. More is better.

Thank you,

Frank Jack Fiamingo
President – NJ2AS

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New Jersey Second Amendment Society – Our mission is to promote the free exercise of Second Amendment rights within the community and Legislature of New Jersey, to educate the community regarding the enjoyable, safe, and responsible use of firearms, and to engender a sense of camaraderie and fellowship among the members and their families. Visit: www.nj2as.com

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