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Grauer Systems Integrated Grip Rail Systems

Monday, December 13th, 2010 at 9:18 AM

Grauer Systems Integrated Grip Rail Systems
Interview By AR15.com

Grauer Systems Integrated Grip Rail Systems

Grauer Systems Integrated Grip Rail Systems

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Honeoye Falls, NY -(Ammoland.com)- This month we talk with John Brixius from Grauer Systems. You may have seen or heard of their IGRS (Integrated Grip Rail System) from SHOT or one of the various discussions on the AR15.com forums. If not, then read below. What we have are two parts: one is a brief background of the company and the thought behind the IGRS from John, and the second is hands-on with the product.

Q: Who is Grauer Systems?

Grauer is a team with diverse professional skills, educational backgrounds and skills across a number of industries, with an emphasis on engineering and design. We strive to be a team that can collaboratively think outside the box and innovate at a systems level, including the human element. Our mission is to provide unique and advanced solutions for the US warfighter and Homeland Security Operator along with synergies in other markets. The company was formally incorporated in 2008 around some advancing developmental efforts. As the incorporation date drew near and a quality sounding name for the firm had not yet been identified, a randomly passed street sign, Grauer Rd, provided the inspiration.

Q: Where did the idea for the IGRS come from?

It started from seeing images and videos with an incredibly high percentage of real warfighters in combat grasping the rifle in front of the receiver and magazine. This is commonly done even with a vertical fore-grip on the weapon. We started looking into it and it turns out there are a lot of intuitive ergonomic advantages to this hold and hence why many shooters gravitate toward it despite training to the contrary. The negatives are that the hands are too close together and that grasping the magazine can cause jams. We tried to eliminate the two negatives while not diminishing all the positives of the traditional magazine hold. As we went down that path, it lead to other questions about how users handle the weapon and found that there were other, synergistic enhancements we could make. The effort grew from being an improved magazine grip to a system design to do much more.

Q: What is the goal of the IGRS?

There are probably a number of ways to say this and each seems to resonate differently to different users. At a high level we wanted to enhance the performance potential that a user can achieve with the weapon. At a more descriptive level that could be superior ergonomics, faster learning curve, more versatility of weapon holds for different positions, better rail loading for either lower bulk or less forward weight, faster reloading, better ambidextrous transitions, and more comfortable patrolling. At the same time, we didn’t want to cause any limitations or any trade-offs compared to how users currently use their weapons. For example, the IGRS was designed to also synergistically work with a vertical fore-grip and the hand forward horizontal hold. In particular, the internal wire routing capability allows for use of remote pressure switches with either of these two holds. The intent isn’t to force one particular hold on users, but rather to provide maximum versatility.

Having said all this, the first thing the vast majority of users notice when they pick up an AR equipped with the IGRS is just how intuitive and natural it feels and just how much more balanced the weapon is in their hands. A number of folks have compared it to a well balanced double shotgun. Those who like the magazine hold overwhelmingly like the IGRS more. And, we’re getting a pretty high percentage of converts from the vertical fore-grip and hand forward horizontal hold schools of thought. Their first reaction on seeing it is often to dismiss it outright for being a magazine style hold, but once they pick it up and play with it a while, often to their surprise, they start to reconsider that the improved grip on the IGRS may be useful for some applications. In particular, when their arm is tired while in a standing position or when prone. Some just switch outright. Others won’t ever use a magazine style hold, but they like IGRS for its internal wire routing or the magazine funnel.

But, the system goes beyond an improved magazine grip. The magazine funnel enables faster reloading. It has a unique asymmetric, non-linear design that minimizes bulk while allowing for a very smooth feed. The IGRS allows for better laser and light integration in that the vast majority of the wire for the remote pressure switches can be routed internally, regardless of the position of either the switch or the device itself. When routed tightly, the wires never come in contact with the heat shield. Again, this isn’t just for use with the grip on the IGRS, it works with either a vertical fore-grip or the hand forward horizontal hold. An often overlooked little feature is the forward wall of the thumb rest. It was designed so that it butts up against a corner and allow the shooter to exert minimal effort to keep the weapon steady over long periods of time while also allowing the weapon to be re-pointed easily. Then, there’s our heat shield, which may be the most unique design on the market. Users consistently tell us that it manages heat much better than other systems they have used.

Q: Where is the IGRS currently in use?

Overall, elite domestic users and experts in the military, law enforcement and civilian markets. Our marketing approach has been to rely on word of mouth, so we’re growing with some expert product innovators in these segments. In particular, expert users who are so familiar with the AR that they have a personal list of the pluses and minuses of the weapon and can immediately resonate with the IGRS. Our first production samples went to some Spec Ops guys who tested it out for many months. We immediately started to get some traction with LE weapon trainers and police AR armorers. We’re starting to get some 3 gunners. In fact, the IGRS won the first 3 gun event in which it was entered.

Q: What is the new product you’re currently working on?

We can’t divulge any IP, but we’ve got a lot of proprietary development efforts. We’ve been getting a number of requests for a lower priced IGRS variant. We don’t want to compromise on quality, so rather than doing a less expensive overall system we’re looking into just a grip/funnel component that attaches to an existing rail system. Obviously, some of the benefits would be lost with such an approach but the overall ergonomics and reloading would be there.

Q: How is your concept different from anything else out there?

Grauer Systems

Grauer Systems

In addition to what has been already stated, we have a unique combination of performance and functionality. We improve upon the traditional magazine hold by moving the hand forward 2.5 inches. As previously implied, this distance seems to be a magic spot in achieving optimal balance and ergonomics for an AR carbine. This, along with optimizing the design in other ways creates a challenge: such a grip design affixed in this location would interfere with field stripping the upper. That’s why we incorporated our unique dual takedown pin design. It allows the grip component to quickly and easily swing away from the receiver and at the same time still be attached to the weapon so that it can be put quickly back into place. It’s the same basic design that is used on the AR itself. Our product is unique in this regard. In our opinion, any system that hinders the ability to quickly field strip the upper to access the bolt is not suitable for tactical use.

Visit: www.grauersystems.com

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Gun Values Board – Your Firearms Knowledge Base

Wednesday, October 6th, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Gun Values Board – Your Firearms Knowledge Base
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Gun Values Board

Gun Values Board - Your Firearms Knowledge Base

Gun Values Board

Gun Values Board

USA - -(AmmoLand.com)- AmmoLand.com’s featured Gun Blog of the Month is the Gun Values Board. www.gunvaluesboard.com

A loose knit but effective coalition of volunteer gun bloggers and forum participants.

The Gun Values Board is all about knowledge, sharing and fun with firearms. It started on 2006 as a meeting place to help enthusiastic people answer common firearms questions and since then it’s been evolving and building a steady stream of useful content for the gunny.

The following is an interview with Nancy, one of  the Gun Values Board Administrators and active gun blogger for the board. You can visit Nancy’s slice of Gun Board at www.gunvaluesboard.com/nancy/blog/

NRAHuntersRights.org Blog Interview:

Q: What is your Blog’s Official Name?
A: Gun Values Board Blog

Q: Is Gun Values Board a blog or a forum?
A: It is Both and neither :-) . Gun Values Board is a community site. The members are all gunners of one sort or other, many of them experts and collectors. The forum (www.gunvaluesboard.com/forums/) currently has close to 53,000 post, which we are very proud of, making it a really great source of information. The blog is really a collection of blogs written by members on the Gun Values Board. Each member has their own blog, the common denominator of the blogs is the name and the topic. You can read the best posts on our top articles page www.gunvaluesboard.com/top-articles/ A lot of the people blogging on the board started out as regular users asking and answering questions on the forum, and in the course of their time on the board, started blogging as well.

Q: What is your Online Name that you may post under?
A: Nancy :-)

Q: Where are you located?
A: I am currently located in Israel. All of the other GVB bloggers are American

Q: What is the point of view or purpose of your blog?
A: It would be hard to pinpoint our point of view, since as I have already mentioned, I am not the only blogger on gun values board. It is easier to talk about the purpose of the GVB blogs, which is to share gun knowledge. Since most of our bloggers are either collectors or experts in one gun kind or another, most of the posts are “hardware” type posts, sharing knowledge about the technical side of guns, And post about particular guns of interest. Obviously, there are some gun rights and Second Amendment posts as well, since living in America, and loving guns leaves you with very little possibility to stay away from gun politics.

Q: How long has your Blog been active?
A: The Blog has been active for a couple of years. In the passed year, more and more members have started their own blogs on our site as well. I would love to get more people blogging on the board. It’s a really nice solution for someone who wants to write but doesn’t really like promoting their blog, since the readership is built in, and the blogs are promoted along with the site in general.

Q: What do you do for a living or is your blog a full time job?
A: None of us are full time bloggers. I personally am a crafts person, and the rest of our bloggers have their day jobs as well.

Q: Do you have a specific agenda or goal of your blog?
A: I would say that the goal of the blog is to promote good, in depth, reliable knowledge about guns. I think knowledge is strength, and by promoting it, and making guns more familiar and less mysterious , the fear of the unknown, which is the root of the anti gun movement, will be removed, pulling the carpet out from under most of their pro gun control arguments.

Q: Do you have any other digital sites?
A: Yes, I am involved in several other sites, though non of the sites are mine.

Q: Who else is involved with Gun Values Board?
A: We have a great team including some very experienced people answering tons of questions posted everyday on the forum. The best way to get to know them is to check out our about page on www.gunvaluesboard.com/about-the-team.html . Of course, other than the actual team there are lots of other registered members who contribute in making the site what it is.

Q: What is one thing that you want your readers to know about you?
A: I am really not the issue here :-) . I think that there are very interesting bloggers on GVB for example

These are just a few of the bloggers, and I would like to get the word out about them. Most of them started blogging after being active participants on GVB. I enjoy reading their posts so much and learn so much from them, I want to share the wealth.

Q: What was the best thing you did on your blog that go the most reaction from your readers?
A:That’s a hard call – we have posts with over 6000 views but with no comments…and posts with less views but much more comments. One of my favorite posts is this one by silicon soccer, which has also made its rounds on the blog sphere http://tiny.cc/w0up3

Q: What was the worst thing you did on your blog that go the most reaction from your readers?
A: I wrote a well intentioned post about some blogs I love and I spelled one of the names wrong. (I corrected it, obviously). But it was like dropping a bomb in the gun sphere.  http://tiny.cc/63ekrae4ev

Q: Obviously since we are featuring you your blog is Pro gun? What do you think the outlook is for the future of gun rights in America?
A: As I mentioned before, there is no way to be a gun lover in America, without getting involved in politics. So yes, the blog is Pro Gun, and as I see it, the only way to improve the gun rights situation America is via education. There is a misconception about guns, and the evil they do, instead of the people behind the guns, and this needs to be straightened out.

Q: What is your favorite firearm and why?
A: Wow, tough question. The jury is still out on that one

Q: What hunting or shooting sports hobbies do you have?
A: I spend as much time at the range as I can, which at this point in time isn’t saying much, unfortunately, but I hope to be back shooting regularly in a short while.

Q: Of the topics you cover what do you enjoy writing about the most?
A: Personally, I like writing about gun stories in the news. The other bloggers on the board are more technical for the most part and write about their collections, valuation, and their love for guns and shooting. One of our newest bloggers, Gunman 1104 posted this wonderful post a couple of days ago. Definitely food for thought. http://tiny.cc/xiiyc

Q: What things would you like to do or expand in your blog to in the future?
A: I would love to get more bloggers writing on Gun Values Board, so that it can fulfill its potential as a central site for gun experts to blog in, and share their knowledge from.

Q: What would you like to say to those that are anti gun or maybe just unsure of the purpose of guns in our society today?
A: Its been said before but is so true, Guns don’t kill, people and stupidity do. It would be better if they directed their energy to being anti crime, and anti criminals, than to be anti gun. It would solve the issues they are worried about in a much more efficient manner.

Also, I suggest that people who fear guns get to know them. It will take some of the mystery away, and help them realize that the power is in the hands of the person holding the gun, not in the gun itself.

Q: What parting remarks or comments you would like to make or promote?
A: I would like to invite gun lovers and experts to start blogging on Gun Values Board www.gunvaluesboard.com Each user has their own personal blog, the readership is already there, and we do what we can to promote the site and blogs further. It really is the easiest and most care free way to start a blog. Its all ready for you – the editor, the blank page and the readers. All you have to do is to find the worlds.

Visit: www.gunvaluesboard.com

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