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Virginia State Association Of The Chiefs Of Police Says You Can’t Be Trusted With Guns

Friday, March 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

Virginia State Association Of The Chiefs Of Police Says You Can’t Be Trusted With Guns
Chief Jacocks is afraid of his own officers carrying guns and being able to drink responsibly….?

Virginia Citizens Defense League

Virginia Citizens Defense League

Virginia Beach VA. – -(AmmoLand.com)- Unbelievably, Virginia Beach Police Chief Jake Jacocks, Jr., speaking for the state association of the chiefs of police, has asked Governor McDonnell to veto SB 334, the restaurant ban repeal, because guns in bars would be a “recipe for disaster.”

Hmmm. The only people that the bill allows to mix guns and alcohol are police officers (on duty, off duty, and retired) and Commonwealth Attorneys and their deputies. So it sounds like Chief Jacocks is afraid of his own officers carrying guns and being able to drink responsibly. That’s a sad commentary on his department and the other departments that are backing this position. I wonder if these chiefs prohibit their officers from driving cars to restaurants, too?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: a whole lot of chiefs of police are nothing more than political hacks that did not work their way up through the ranks and don’t share the beliefs of their rank and file officers on such matters.

Also, the Sheriff’s Association did NOT share the bogus concerns of the Chiefs.

I personally don’t donate to the Fraternal Order of Police for their past and current interference with our gun rights and I also have no intention of contributing to anything from the Association of Chiefs of Police, either, for the same reason. The Sheriffs Association doesn’t pull this kind of baloney.

The good news is that according to the article, the Governor is going to stand strong and sign the bill:

“McDonnell will sign the bill, said Taylor Thornley, the governor’s spokeswoman. While McDonnell appreciates the work and comments of the police chiefs, he will ‘continue to protect and uphold the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens,’ Thornley said.”

Here is the story:

State’s police chiefs seek veto of guns-in-bars bill

http://hamptonroads.com/node/546409

By Deirdre Fernandes The Virginian-Pilot © March 17, 2010 VIRGINIA BEACH

Calling guns in bars a “recipe for disaster,” the state’s police chiefs have pleaded with Gov. Bob McDonnell to veto legislation that would ease Virginia’s concealed weapon laws.

Virginia Beach police Chief Jake Jacocks Jr. sent a letter to McDonnell last week on behalf of the state association of chiefs comparing the combination of firearms and alcohol with drinking and driving.

“We can fully expect that at some point in the future a disagreement that today would likely end up in a verbal confrontation, or a bar fight, will inevitably end with gunfire if you sign this legislation into law,” Jacocks wrote.

SB334’s requirement that anybody with a gun is prohibited from drinking and could be charged with a misdemeanor is “absurd,” Jacocks said, and can’t be enforced. [PVC: In that case, perhaps we need to just get rid of the penalty altogether or make it a civil fine.]

On Tuesday, Jacocks got support from Virginia Beach Mayor Will Sessoms, a McDonnell supporter and gun owner.

“Not only is it stupid,” Sessoms said, “I think it could be a fatal mistake.”

But their efforts seem unlikely to sway McDonnell.

McDonnell will sign the bill, said Taylor Thornley, the governor’s spokeswoman. While McDonnell appreciates the work and comments of the police chiefs, he will “continue to protect and uphold the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens,” Thornley said.

The bill deals only with concealed weapons; in Virginia it’s legal to carry a gun openly without a permit.

SB334 and its House counterpart, along with legislation that allows gun owners without concealed-carry permits to store firearms in locked vehicle compartments, were among the gun-friendly bills approved by the General Assembly this year. The Democratic-controlled Senate formed a special subcommittee late in the session to kill several gun-rights bills, including a repeal of the state’s one-handgun-purchase-a-month limit.

The police chiefs association has opposed the guns in bars bill in the past, but it also had a more sympathetic ear. Former Democratic Gov. Timothy M. Kaine twice vetoed such bills.

The Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police didn’t come out strongly against the bills during the session because it was spread too thin trying to preserve state funding for police departments, said Dana Schrad, the organization’s executive director. [PVC: Life does have its priorities ;-) ]

“We didn’t duck and cover on this one,” Schrad said. “We had to prioritize on budget issues.”

The Virginia Sheriffs’ Association, the other large law-enforcement lobby in the General Assembly, did not take a stand on the legislation, said John Jones, the organization’s executive director.

“No, we’re not going down that road,” Jones said.

But association members recently did vote on a resolution supporting Second Amendment rights, Jones said.

Jacocks and Schrad did acknowledge that the letter was a last-ditch effort.

“It was important to let him know directly how we felt about this issue,” Jacocks said.

If police across Virginia see an increase in gun violence at bars, the association will come back and ask the General Assembly to reconsider its decision, Schrad said. [PVC: Or course any such violence would have to be unjustified and perpetrated by CHP holders, police, or Commonwealth Attorneys. Even then, that is why we have laws - to punish bad people, not to punish the good ones.]

Statistics on gun-related incidents at establishments with liquor licenses were not available Tuesday. [PVC: Again, unless they deal with CHP holders acting unlawfully, such statistics are irrelevant.]

About:
Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right. Visit: www.vcdl.org

Tell South Carolina Lawmakers You Want Guns In Vehicles At Work Passed Now

Friday, March 19th, 2010 at 11:21 am

Tell South Carolina Lawmakers You Want Guns In Vehicles At Work Passed Now

GrassRoots South Carolina

GrassRoots South Carolina

South Carolina --(AmmoLand.com)- H. 3994 would prevent a person, property owner, tenant, employer, or business entity from making a policy or rule that prohibits a person from transporting and storing firearms in a locked vehicle on property set aside for the vehicle.

If H. 3994 passes, gun owners will be able to legally keep self defense weapons in their vehicles virtually everywhere they go. No longer will gun owners be forced to travel unarmed just because some business or employer bans firearms since such bans will no longer apply to firearms in private vehicles. Once H. 3994 passes, the law would protect businesses from being sued without jeopardizing safety.

H. 3994 is both pro business and pro gun. GrassRoots GunRights has already proposed an amendment to allow possession in both a locked or attended vehicle instead of just a locked vehicle. So, be sure to tell them that “GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!”

ACTION STEPS:

1) Call each member of the House General Laws Subcommittee and tell them the following:

“I urge you to pass H. 3994 NOW! This bill is both pro business and pro gun, which makes it good for South Carolina.

GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!”

2) Email each member of House General Laws Subcommittee with the same message:

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“Dear Representative (INSERT NAME):

“I urge you to pass H. 3994 NOW! This bill is both pro business and pro gun, which makes it good for South Carolina.

GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!

Sincerely,

(YOUR NAME)
(YOUR TOWN)”

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Members of the SC House General Laws Subcommittee:

  • Rep.Bruce Bannister
    (803) 734-3009
    BannisterB@schouse.org
  • Rep. Dan Hamilton
    (803) 212-6795
    DanHamilton@schouse.org
  • Rep. George Hearn
    (803) 212-6796
    GeorgeHearn@schouse.org
  • Rep. Leon Stavrinakis
    (803) 734-3039
    StavL@schouse.org
  • Rep.David Weeks
    (803) 734-3102
    JDW@schouse.org

Thank you for taking immediate action on this very important gun rights issue!

Bill Rentiers
Executive Officer
GrassRoots GunRights of SC

About:
The mission of GrassRoots is to educate and promote acceptance of responsible firearms ownership within the State of South Carolina and to protect the rights of law abiding citizens with regard to firearms ownership. Initially we focused all of our attention on merchants who posted against the lawful carrying of concealed weapons in their stores. Since then we have broadened our scope and are currently increasing information delivery to all firearms owners, SC concealed weapons permit holders, and firearms instructors. As GrassRoots continues to grow we will further broaden our objectives to improve all aspects of lawful ownership and carrying of firearms in South Carolina. Visit: www.scfirearms.org