Every Mass Shooting Shares One Thing In Common & It’s NOT Weapons


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Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common, & It's NOT Weapons
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Manasquan, NJ –-(Ammoland.com)- Nearly every mass shooting incident in the last twenty years, and multiple other instances of suicide and isolated shootings all share one thing in common, and its not the weapons used.

The overwhelming evidence points to the signal largest common factor in all of these incidents is the fact that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their crimes.

Multiple credible scientific studies going back more than a decade, as well as internal documents from certain pharmaceutical companies that suppressed the information show that SSRI drugs ( Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors ) have well known, but unreported side effects, including but not limited to suicide and other violent behavior. One need only Google relevant key words or phrases to see for themselves. www.ssristories.com is one popular site that has documented over 4500 “ Mainstream Media “ reported cases from around the World of aberrant or violent behavior by those taking these powerful drugs.

The following is a list of mass shooting perpetrators and the drugs they were taking or had been taking shortly before their horrific actions.

The list was compiled and published to Facebook by John Noveske, founder and owner of Noveske Rifleworks just days before he was mysteriously killed in a single car accident. Is there a link between Noveske's death and his “outting” of information numerous disparate parties would prefer to suppress, for a variety of reasons ?

I leave that to the individual readers to decide. But there is most certainly a documented history of people who “knew to much” or were considered a “threat” dying under extraordinarily suspicious circumstances.

Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America : http://tiny.cc/zcgh7x
Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America : http://tiny.cc/zcgh7x

From Katherine Smith, a Tennessee DMV worker who was somehow involved in helping several 9/11 hijackers in obtaining Tennessee Drivers Licenses, and was later found burned to death in her car. To Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Gary Webb, who exposed a CIA Operation in the 80's that resulted in the flooding of LA Streets with crack cocaine and was later found dead from two gunshot wounds to the head, but was officially ruled as a “suicide“, to Frank Olson, a senior research micro biologist who was working on the CIA's mind control research program MKULTRA.

After Olson expressed his desire to leave the program, he was with a CIA agent in a New York hotel room, and is alleged to have committed “suicide” by throwing himself off the tenth floor balcony.

In 1994, Olson's sons were successful in their efforts to have their fathers body exhumed and re examined in a second autopsy by James Starrs, Professor of Law and Forensic science at the National Law Center at George Washington University. Starr's team concluded that the blunt force trauma to the head and injury to the chest had not occurred during the fall but most likely in the room before the fall.

The evidence was called “rankly and starkly suggestive of homicide.” Based on his findings, in 1996 the Manhattan District Attorney opened a homicide investigation into Olson's death, but was unable to find enough evidence to bring charges.

As I said, I leave it to the individual readers to make up their own minds if Noveske suffered a similar fate.

On to the list of mass shooters and the stark link to psychotropic drugs.

  • Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.
  • Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
  • Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
  • Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
  • Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
  • Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
  • Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
  • Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
  • A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
  • Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
  • A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
  • Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
  • TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
  • Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
  • James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
  • Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
  • Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
  • Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
  • Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
  • Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
  • Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
  • Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
  • Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
  • Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
  • Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
  • Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
  • Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
  • (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)
  • Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.
  • Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
  • Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
  • Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
  • A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
  • Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
  • Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
  • Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
  • Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
  • Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
  • Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….

  • What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
  • What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
  • What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or
  • What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct

Those focusing on further firearms bans or magazine restrictions are clearly focusing on the wrong issue and asking the wrong questions, either as a deliberate attempt to hide these links, or out of complete and utter ignorance.

Don't let them! Force our elected “representatives” and the biased media to cast a harsh spotlight on the issue of mental illness drungs. Don't stop hounding them until they do. As the antis say, “even if is saves just one life” , it is worth doing.

More articles, commentary and information by D. Roberts available at That Every Man Be Armed.com

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      1. Joseph O – You’re an idiot and a racist. And you are completely wrong. In fact the overwhelming majority of mass shootings in America occur in inner city slums by BLACK gang members, but the main stream FAKE NEWS won’t report on them. And many of the highly publicized mass shootings outside of gangs, are terrorists of Middle Eastern descent.

    2. All of this gets back to England, where the leadership there has never given up “retaking the Colonies.” The top people in both countries are members of the “Pilgrims Society,” and the top Pharma execs and board members are Pilgrims members. This has gone on for generations and most likely the seed capital for Pharma came directly from the British opium business in China in which they had 45 million addicts, many pressed into being hooked at gunpoint. The British understand guns better than anyone. Guns are how the British Empire was able to seize so much land from inhabitants—the British had guns and the natives didn’t. Now in order to make us Crown serfs again we must not own weapons, and we also must be made poor, and Pharma drugs do make people poor. They cause hideous side effects which are then “treated” at hospital chains run by Pilgrims Society members like Anne Lamont of Hospital Corporation of America. This Pilgrims Society has had the nation by the throat since its official formation in January 1903 and unofficially for generations before then when they were known as the St. George’s Society. They refuse to post any roster to public view http://www.pilgrimsociety.org

    3. I am going to submit two things….one, I have witnessed three people on Wellbutrin for smoking cessation and/or depression, consume a few beers and lose their gourds. I wouldn’t put it past at least some of these kids to be on psychotropic type drugs and be fooling around with alcohol, nor would I put it past the adults to do so, either.

      Two, we are forgetting the steady diet of antibiotics people are put on from the moment they take their first breath and then at least annually thereafter. It is now becoming understood by mainstream medicine, as it was long ago understood by Hippocrates, that all health begins in the gut. When you continually destroy our bodies stomach microbiome and therefore the microbiome of our entire being you slowly begin to erode our mental health as well. I personally believe that this is the cause of the widespread depression. There are many places to google what I am saying and many, many books out there that agree with me. I myself found not only profound physical healing but healing of my mind and emotions by taking great amounts of probiotics to heal the destruction done by antibiotics given to me for 20 plus years….. So, let’s pretend I am fully correct in this, and we have compromised individuals that become depressed and then are given a strong psychotropic drug on top of a body that isn’t able to properly process anything any longer, thrown into life’s various difficult situations and there’s your powder keg. I believe this 100% and think it needs to be addressed by the medical community yesterday.

    4. I’m going to say what we’re all thinking – the white guys are always on anti-depressants. In the giant numbers game they fell into the sub 1% of the patients that had the exact opposite side effect intended from the medication and now they are a threat when lead down the right path of thought. The Middle Easterners are just Muslims and they are killing people because that’s how Islam spreads.

      Here’s a quick vid that lays out exactly what the pattern is based on percent of the population. In the West, America is in the best position because we have the smallest Muslim population. Bottom line, we get rid of them or they use whatever tool they can find to get rid of us, and they don’t care if takes centuries.

      Creeping Sharia: The ISLAMIZATION of the WEST

    5. It is idiotic and border on moronic how many pharma defenders come here to post willfull ignorance about drugs. Read just about the neurontin scandal , and how it was being prescribed for about everything with proper approval, and how many people were getting suicide thougs under it, and the company knew and never said anything during the trials. They paid a miserable fine after years of making billions with it. To say that the drugs are not the problem or have nothing to do, when a much simpler drug like alcohol , is blamed for the same and worst, is completely deranged. Like the moron defending LSD. OMG,.. there is clear evidence of the brain damage LSD causes and not only on papers , but you just have to look aorund you the drug addicts in your nearby gettho or street lights. Just look at websites that patients review this drugs like askapatient.com and you will see the destructive effects of any of them. You can not balance your body by adding things that destroy your brain. This drug made you completely dependant of them on purpose and when you stop taking them are left with permanent side effects. People want to fix everything with a pill and trust a pill pusher without taking into account that they have been poisoning themselves since born by vaccines and their life long side effects. Your body and brain are damaged since early by big pahrma and its so common now that people take it as normal. People need to go thru a really intensive natural cleanse of their poisoned body and systems before even trying to start to feel better. Add to this the constant media propaganda 24/7 programming and violent induction and you can clearly see what is really happening. The gun is the last thing to worry about. If it is not a gun it would be a knife or a bomb. But the thing is the problem start in a poisoned body and brain that can not think straigh, and by a media that takes all moral laws of the mind and actually allows for someone to kill and damage without remorse. This drugs are very powerful. They work sinergistically and also their effects are cummulative and permanent. Repeating a lie , like pharma have been doing for decades dont make it true. But repeating a lie to zombified poisoned people will make them believe them as truth.

    6. FYI– Drug-related deaths not directly connected to deaths by firearms is the fact that drug-induced deaths in the U.S. (primarily from overdoses) exceeded auto deaths in the years 2008 – 2013. Apparently the 2014 data is not yet published.
      SOURCE. 2015 National Drug Assessment Summary, U.S. DOJ, Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA-DCT-DIR-008-16. http://www.dea.gov/docs/2015%20NDTA%20Report.pdf
      For example, in 2013 the NDA Assessment shows 46,471 drug-induced deaths reported in CDCP data.

    7. This is an EXCELLENT article and goes far beyond what any “commentors” have to say. The correlation to all of these deaths by a shooter being or having been on psychotropic drugs is a breakthrough comparrison blanketing evidence most commonly left out of, “what caused these people to do this”… I am beyond sure that if we were to autopsy and add in all of the gangland murders, “by gun” that this list would grow expotentially and further show tha the use of drugs by a person with a gun in their hands is most likely the problem.

      It also appears that we have escaped from the, “Valley Of The Dolls” and evolved into the, “Valley Of The Babes”. I would like to see a study showing the parentage of these young shooters. Am I being too cocky to almost bet that they come from single parent homes headed by the mother?

      I would also like to see a study showing where these guns came from to get into the shooters hands? Stolen? Traded for drugs? Given by an irresponsible person? Bought in the back alleys from drug thugs and illigal immigrant? Indulge me.

    8. it took long enough for ammoland to pick this up, this is old news, i hit the commie websites often exposing the link with big pharma, another thing in common is gun control laws, nobody could defend their self from a criminal attack.

    9. mental health medication does not cause mass murders… It shows a link between mentally ill and medications. A correlation, not a causation. and i’m confused as to how someone could obtain this information because of HIPPA laws… If this list is accurate then the author should be in jail for breaking confidentiality, even if the patient is dead… Where did you even get this information from? Either way, it’s being reported to the medical board..

    10. The bible teaches that pharmakia is often translated as sorcery. Drug use makes it easier for demonic spirits to enter. Check out Strings 5331.

      1. The Bible does not teach that. The use of the term “Witch” for Herbalist or “Healer” occurs in the King James translation primarily for political reasons. King James was having trouble with political opponents in Scotland who had coalesced behind a group of three popular local herbalists/healers, who were successfully opposing his policies at the time of that translation. Throughout the history of mankind, there have been people who used herbal knowledge to treat illness and injury. The same knowledge can generally also be used to harm, if that is the intent. Insofar as the Bible may oppose the use of natural herbal treatment for disease, it is simply in error, and on the wrong side of history. “Pharmakia” as the Greeks called it, was one of the first things that helped mankind pull itself up out of the misery of earlier times.
        And you think the use of drugs makes demonic possession easier; why? How, exactly, would that work?

    11. Most of these are not “powerful psychotropic drugs”… that premise being incorrect, it’s hard to believe most of what follows, since that has to be true for the article to hold weight.

      I’d be willing to bet that most of these were not actually on the medications they needed when the occurrences happened (coming off a psychotropic medication can be worse than symptoms prior to needing them).

      I thank goodness for the medications that help people cope with the ‘demons’ inside them… be they developed from abuse, brain-washing, or just simply a chemical imbalance in the brain….

      Otherwise there would be 10x more shootings… since gun nuts love advertising what types of guns are used in shootings… while trying to blame something else (drugs) to make a sell.

      Welcome to America… Home of the stupid and land of the clueless.

    12. Everybody seems to be missing the main cause of mass shootings. Society is broken! As a result anti-depressant drugs that can be mind altering are prescribed in record numbers. The justice system has become more liberalized and as a result there is less deterrent to commit crime. Guns DO NOT KILL, people kill. If you take away the guns there will be mass stabbings (check the uk crime figures) what then, ban knives, where does it stop? Fix society and the problem will disappear.

      1. You are right and to all the anti-firearms people making comments and asking for proof just look up the F.B.I. reports:
        Look at History, when evil men want to conquer a group of people, you know what precedes the conquering, they disarm those people of their weapons. The government tries to tell you “We want to remove your weapons because we’re going to protect you”. They’re not trying to protect you, they want to make sure that you don’t fight back. These people who are behind these gun control’s of Satan, they want to corrupt the word as in the garden of Eden and we are not ignorant of his devices. 2 Corinthians 2:11
        In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control, between 1929 and 1953 20 million political dissidents were killed. In 1935 Germany established gun control and begin to disarm its people. Between 1933 and 1945, 13 million Jews and others were killed. In 1935 China established gun control and began to disarm its people. between 1948 and 1952, 20 million political dissidents in China were killed. In 1970 Uganda established gun control and began to disarm its people, between 1971 and 1979, 300,000 Christians were killed. In 1956 Cambodia established gun control and began to disarm its people, between 1975 and 1977, 1 million Cambodians were killed. So the enemy is wanting to take your weapon away, not to defend you but so that you cannot defend yourself.
        It takes someone to load and to pull the trigger of a gun to make it work so it is not the firearms, there are plenty of other way’s to do a lot more killing than with a firearm and anti-gun people are just ignorant or maybe scared of guns but it’s a hobby to shoot for fun at targets not people and to collect and to buy and sell and they are very interesting in the difference of how they are made and the history of all of them and there are so many in the U.S. that when Japan bomb Pearl Harbor they were going to invade the U.S. but their top commander said that there would be a gun behind every blade of grass so if Obama takes them we will no longer be a free nation and after over 4 million people dying to keep this country free and you anti-people want to let all of those people die in vain, for nothing and this really makes no sense at all to me.

    13. Everybody has made sound arguments as to the accuracy of this article. I read a testimony from an RN that gets pulled in to the psyche ward upon occasion, and the treatment laws she/he said that they had to follow was that once they get the person stabilized and back on their meds, they have to let them go, and that days later they will return because they have stopped taking their meds and have run amok again.

      Before Ronald Reagan relaxed the mental health laws that society had protecting it, the mentally ill were institutionalized until they were better, then slowly re-acclimated to society. Our current system of “take two pills and call me if the voices return” is not working. Doctors, without a degree in Psychiatry, are dosing people with mind altering drugs that they have no idea exactly how it will affect the patient. And since the patients are not in a controlled environment, can do nothing if the patient runs amok.

      So we can split hairs and point to studies about this and that, but the fact is, we didn’t have the amount of these events before the mental health laws were relaxed.

    14. I am happy to see someone is doing the homework. One thing is missing though. The shooters were prescribed a specific drug but, did they buy a generic form instead.

    15. Dan I read your article and I have to say in pushing your agenda I don’t believe you did any fact checking, example; Kip Kinkel didn’t kill his parents “as they slept”. Also I believe although he had at one time been treated with Prozac, he was well and truly off it before the shooting.

      You are right though “every mass shooting shares one thing in common” however it’s not drugs it’s GUNS!

    16. Dan needs a lesson in logical (or perhaps statistical) analysis. He is using an irrelevant correlation that only works in one direction, to make a causal conclusion, and that is simply ignorant, the sort of error freshman statistics students tend to make.
      First off, while it may be true that many who have behaved violently have been taking SSRIs or other “psychotropic” drugs; it is also true that, at any given moment, there are also millions (last statistic I have seen is between 6 and 8 million) of people taking those same drugs without behaving violently. if the drugs are causing the problem, why are so very, very, few violent acts occurring relative to the huge number of folks taking the drugs? If it is the drugs, we should be seeing tens (hundreds?) of thousands of such violent acts. Further, the correlation only goes one way. That is, while you can find a correlation with taking psychotropic drugs when you start by looking at violent actors, you do not find violent actors if you start by looking at people taking these drugs (ie, most people taking prescribed drugs are not violent). Just FYI, what guys like Dan fail to report, is that , while violent actors may be correlated with taking prescription drugs, they are also correlated with many other things. For example, by far the strongest correlation, is simply with being a male.
      Secondly, consider this: If someone is depressed (and the parallel holds true for other mental disorders) they are at increased risk of suicide. If a depressed person kills himself, we (quite reasonably) blame the depression. If the depressed person is seeing a psychologist for psychotherapy, but fails to improve and ends up killing himself, we blame the depression (ie , we don’t blame the psychologist or call for a ban on the profession of psychology). So why is it, that if the depressed person kills himself while taking medication (instead of psychotherapy), we should blame the medication? Why does it suddenly become less reasonable to blame the underlying disorder that made him more likely to commit suicide in the first place? Just like psychotherapy, drugs don’t always work, sometimes they are not taken properly, or are started too late, or were not the right drug, or the diagnosis was wrong, or myriad other possible things that could go wrong; that doesn’t make them the likely culprit for the patient’s bad behavior.

      In a nutshell (and in layman’s terms), when crazy people behave in crazy ways, it is most likely because they are crazy, not because of their gender, medication, or whatever else you can dream up.

      1. I knew someone who had depression and had been prescribed medication and was going to “Therapy”. However they were NOT getting better! The Doctor only increased the dosage of the medication, Still the person did not get better. Still the doctor only increased the Dosage of the medication! They finally changed doctors and changed “therapists”. The New doctor did tests, then changed medications and adjusted the dosage. The New “therapist” was much better at getting the person to TALK about what was troubling them. The combination of the new medication and the new therapist the person got better!

        However there are those that do NOT take their medication as prescribe, do NOT go to Therapy like they are Supposed to, some even take illegal drugs and/or alcohol to “self Medicate” and/or mix with their medications that they are supposed to take, and others just do not seek “Professional” help because they are afraid of being stigmatized!

        In some instances “when people behave in crazy ways, it is most likely because they are crazy.”. Other times they are “Crazy like a Fox” and want people to think that they are crazy! Other times it is because they were on “something” which caused them to do something “crazy”. An in some other instances it is a combination of them.

    17. There’s more than the masses are not being told. DISCLOSURE is planned for 2015 and by 2020. The Cabal (elitists, illuminati which are from 13 global bloodlines) do not rule the earth, it’s the mal sphere beings (draconians do) and they eat neg energy to survive which explains why they use telepathic and demonic like control over Powerful Leaders who are wealthy, royal, politicans, influential types to control them to make unjust executive decisions, insane laws and the like….GREADY TREATY pact was made by Eisenhower- he sold us out; was decieved by these beings. Shadow gov knows it and has no control….Illum own underground prison, mental Inst in CA/L.I and USE patients as experiments to do missions- FALSE FLAGS, using crisis actors for all school shootings. NEWTOWN is a CIA neighborhood – cult like families who are in on it….OAK/BOS bombings and 9/11 are used as false flags and to give violent neg energy to feed these Sphere Beings….although the 2012 SHIFT occured and they know their time is up….it gets worse b/fore peace will reign again….Cabal already are set up in BRAZIL 12m south in miitarized green zone to try to hide out from prison by a global tribunal court of law….all Presidents, Senate, Congress, CEOs will go to prison….for deceiving the masses, bankrupting them, foreclosing/banking crisis….more reason to invest in BITCOIN now since S.A no longer is taking USD but gold. GS just bought BITCOINS- red flag sign of the times…Guns never had anything to do with these shootings..these kids were under pyschotropic drugs, have fake families, history, IDs….turn OFF mainstream news, print- owned by Elitists who are used and deceived as well.

    18. My Only Question Is, What Are The Numbers In Regards To The Number Of People Smoking Marijuana And Violent Crimes ? I Would Be Willing To Postulate That The Numbers Would Be Quite A Bit Lower. And Antidepressants “in The Right Dose, A Well As The Correct One” Are Very Beneficial !!!!! But, The Wrong Medication As Well As The Right OR Wrong Dose, Is it Definitely A VERY BAD Combination !!!!! The Only People Who Are Affected By Gun Laws Are The Law Abiding Populace !!!!! Any And All Criminals Are Still VERY CAPABLE Of Aquirng A Gun !!!!! It Is VERY HARD For Me To Blame A Gun, When It Is Used In A Violent Crime !!!!! Now This Is Just My Opinion !!!!!

    19. Back in the late 90’s I went to the hospital for help. They sent me to the clinic to see a therapist. A doctor had then given me a prescription of some type, I don’t remember what it was. A month later I went back and he had changed the prescription or given me something stronger. Anyway what ever it was, it made me so dam angry I stopped taking it.
      I never went back. I remember the doctor telling me their are 30 different type of medication. And then to see what really works. Obviously there is percentage of them that work more or better than the others. I don’t believe any of these drugs really work. You’re trying to solve a spiritual problem or a mental problem of the mind with a physical drug. In most cases it is a waste.
      I have a friend of mine, she has been on medication for many years. She has changed medication many times from one to another and back again. She prayed about it again and has not taken anything for quite some time now.

    20. I think the drugs have a lot to do with, but on a base level, they were all mentally ill to begin with. If Obama wants to blame this on the person responsible, he need only look in the mirror. When President Ronald Reagan relaxed the mental health laws to save money, he released onto the streets thousands and thousands of people who normally have been locked up until they were better. But Obama has done nothing to reinstate the laws we used to have protecting us, so that is why I say he is responsible. Blaming an inanimate object for its misuse is a smokescreen, and fails to address the real problem of all the psychos who are amongst us.

    21. Severely mentally ill people seek help from doctors for their disease. Doctors write prescriptions for psychotropic drugs (which often help). Patient goes on killing spree…. and you blame the drugs?

      I don’t think the writer understands the difference between correlation and causation.

    22. If guns were not available, those determined to do great harm would find another way. Example ( Boston bombers ) home made explosives, drive a vehicle through a crowd, a building filled with people, let your mind wonder and see how long the list can become. The gun is convent almost anything can be a weapon. Homeland security provided fencing surveillance, barricades and much much more to protect America’s ports and Air ports, but let’s anyone cross our southern border!! IT IS. NOT THE GUN————- We need the gun to protect ourselves from thugs and ISSI more now than ever before. As they say. WAKE UP AMERICA

    23. To cog in the machine
      Your comment emplies that the wrong doer could not come up with another way- crashing a car, truck, 18 wheeler, plane, drone, boat, or any homade device (the Boston bomer’s), consider an 18 wheeler driven through a church, use your brain the list is endless!! IT IS NOT THE GUN !!! IT IS WHAT FITS THE NEED AT THE TIME!!!!

    24. Found this article linked at another web site. This is spot on, right on the money. Several years ago, I had a doctor give me a week’s worth of some antidepressant (Prozac? Paxil? Can’t remember which.), as I was having a difficult time in life, working 2 jobs and feeling down. I stopped taking them after 2 days. I went from feeling bummed to feeling suicidal after just 2 days on that poison. These drugs are far and away overprescribed, and I will not subject myself to that ever again.

    25. The old line used to be “guns and booze don’t mix” Seems we have the modern equivalent. Run, don’t walk, as far as you can from these psychotropic drugs as if your life and other lives depend on it. It may very well be the case.

    26. A friend of mine was denied a concealed carry permit because he takes Xanax at night to stop him from grinding his teeth. He had to go to superior court to get his permit approved which was very expensive. The judge admonished the sheriff because the doctor said the man was not a threat to anyone but his own teeth. The judge wrote the sheriff a letter saying he is not a doctor. He should not second guess doctors. But that doesn’t get my friends legal fees back. He cannot get a lawyer in town to sue the sheriff for his legal fees because there isn’t enough money on the table for a lawyer to be bothered with.

      Next thing you know your concealed carry permit will be rejected if you took Chantix to quit smoking.

    27. Mental health is the avenue to gun confiscation..
      Eastern Europe pre WWII – Communist govt. confiscated guns in the name of mental health..

      American Psychiatric Asso: Half of Americans are mentally ill..

      300 million prescriptions for psychiatric drugs written in 2009 alone..

      is ammoland onboard with mental health gun confiscation?

    28. Mike Hamilton= adderall. shot some dude in the face. just an average Joe buddy of mine work it forwards and has everything in life. Some guy showed up to put a bid on his father’s cabins patio and my buddy wigged out and blew a guys face off. after about 30 days in jail he realized he wasn’t in a movie

    29. One thing about this is very important to remember. While there appears to be a very strong correlation between being a mass shooter and taking psychotropic drugs, there is not necessarily a cause and effect relationship. I will say that again: there is not necessarily a cause and effect relationship.

      This is important. You cannot go from mass shooters are all on pysychotropic meds to “taking psychotropic meds causes people to become murderers.”

      What we can, and should say is this: 1. People who have mental health issues are often prescribed psychotropic medications. 2. People who commit mass shootings are often people who have mental health issues. 3. Psychotropic meds may not CAUSE people to be more likely to commit mass shootings, but the also do not seem effective at helping people with mental health issues to be LESS likely to do it. 4. It would probably be a really good idea if people with mental health issues were monitored more closely than the currently are.

    30. A significant number of people killing others, especially in mass shootings or other type of murders that get media attention have one thing in common. They have history of mental illness. Today, in the US, it is very unlikely that most of these people would not have had some contact with mental health professionals some time in their past. The nature of mental illness being one that, the more severe it is, the more likely it will affect the person’s rational capacity and prevent them from truly recognizing they are ill. This prevents them from seeking treatment and staying in treatment. More over, treatment for mental illness available is less than perfect. Medicines, psychotherapy all can help but they are not curative but they can make the person less ill and less dangerous to themselves and others,
      (Remember there is no cure for most human ailments and this thought should help us from getting too pessimistic about mental illnesses). Most severely mentally ill do not stay in treatment on their own. Even when they are forced into treatment by courts the results in most cases are less than satisfactory. We cannot blame others for it. It is the state of our understanding of mental illnesses and treatment today. Only our own effort with research into the causes of mental illnesses, especially biological / genetic research and then finding remedies for the factors that are underlying each type of mental illness will result in an improvement in this situation. We need more serious, dedicated researchers, doctors, and other providers to bring about an improvement in this situation. At the very least it will take centuries of effort but each little step in the right direction will be an improvement. it is perhaps the biggest challenge humanity faces today.
      Now, as to medicines being the culprit in these cases – that view point may not be correct in many , if not most cases. Many mentally ill people are brought to psychiatrists or may even initially come to a psychiatrist on their own. But they often do not accept what the psychiatrists say and recommend. For example many bipolar or manic patients
      (who often end up committing crimes) will not accept medicines for bipolar illness or mania as these medicines have a subduing effect which they dislike. Yet they will often ask for and accept medicines for depression or other addictive medicines, They may have suffered from depression in the past and bipolar patients, for good reason are terrified of depressive episodes and they even continue taking antidepressants even when they are in a state of mania and psychosis. They may have seen a psychiatrist months back but then stop going for treatment but continue to take antidepressants when they should not.This is one reason we often here some mass murderers have a history of being on antidepressants such as Prozac. Add to this, Psychiatrists, other care givers, hospitals all being less than competent and dedicated, over burdened, budget cuts, long term stay hospitals closing,poor policy decisions by state and federal governments – all put together and we have the perfect storm of the mentally ill entangled in mass murder scenarios time after time.
      The central piece of this puzzle is often mental illness. In the past a mentally ill person may have ran around throwing punches or pulled a knife on someone. Today a deranged person murders masses of people with a machine gun. The illness and derangement are the same, but the weapon they have access to is different. And that makes the catastrophe much worse.
      Let us think rationally to understand this calamity we are facing. Only we can solve the problem. One step at a time. We need more young people to go into serious research into the etiology and treatment of mental illnesses and to educate the public, especially the politicians about the complex issues involving mental illnesses and their impact on the individual and society. To do that first and foremost we need to become educated and rational thinkers on the subject. Step two is develop capacity to become serious students and researchers dealing with the issue of mental illness in an honest and in depth manner, putting away our pre-conceptions as we study the topic with an open mind to become as competent and effective as we can in dealing with this subject . Always remember: serious mental illness is a brain disorder and a deranged brain cannot judge itself.. There in lies the dilemma of the serious mentally ill.. All other things are important but secondary to these simple facts
      Advice from an old man. (sorry for the typos in this hurried writing from the heart)

      1. Your filibuster has no validity. How is it pal that psychiatrists are immune from mental illness? How does their degree give them immunity? Do dentists imply their dental diploma prevents them having dental disease? Are any cardiologists heart attack patients? So mental “illness” is not “like any other illness.” Whereas a dermatologist could be injured by hornet stings, mental “illness” can’t afflict a psychiatrist. “Only a psychiatrist can reliably diagnose mental illness,” therefore since it’s a defamation and a strategy rather than a medical fact the only time they diagnose another psych with it is if one of them breaks ranks. When Duard Bok blew the whistle on National Medical Enterprises in 1993, NME immediately came back at him with “he has a personality disorder.” Psychiatry very clearly is the modern extension of The Inquisition and the witch hunts. Others deemed immune from so-called mental “illness” are police. If a psych called a cop mentally ill, the state agency would suspend the license of the “doctor,” because the state does not want any of its agents hindering other of its agents, and the police are the state’s most important enforcers. So a cop can beat his wife, perjure in court, destroy exculpatory evidence, and shoot dogs while having an erection, and no psych will slap any mental “illness” label on him. Other use for mental “illness” mongering is to evade personal responsibility, “But judge, the DISORDER made me do it.” You wasted your life accepting psychiatric dogma!

        1. Thanks, Charlie.
          Very nicely said.
          You hit the nail on the head.
          “Mental health is the avenue to gun confiscation” and population control.

    31. SSRI’s + Hypnosis = Monarch Mind Control.
      There are hundreds of unsuspecting “patients” waiting for their cue. They will think they are protecting their grandmother from a polar bear as they shoot down innocent “munchkins”. They will remember nothing afterward. Like Holmes & Lanza.

    32. Maybe it is just me. But when I see careless spelling errors and poor grammar in an article, I tend to dismiss the whole thing… and the author too.

      Someone else posted this… it is the simplest and most logical response to the article:

      Correlation does NOT equal causation.

      The fact that these people were on meds means that someone was trying to help them.

      I’m no fan of Big Pharma’s role in our healthcare system. They are a corruptive force in providing objective care. But it is not their fault… it is our government that allows the exploitive position that is held by the drug companies in this country. As a for-profit business, a pharmaceutical company MUST have their bottom line as their top priority. That means that sales and marketing MUST come before all other concerns, including public health. There is no way to get around this. The only way to keep this corruptive force from influencing public health decisions is to regulate it. We need to work on this… but I have veered off-course from the topic…

      Gun violence, even when perpetrated by folks who are taking similar types of meds, is not the sole fault of the drugs, nor the drug companies, nor the guns, nor the gun makers, nor our schools, nor ad-nauseam. I am not sure why we seem to have a need to have ONE root cause. Guns are not the killers, but, as Eddie Izzard says, they do help. Maybe the drugs helped as well. But let’s use our heads, folks.

      If we can agree that most of the gun violence that has been highlighted here was carried out by people that needed psychiatric help, then I think it is worth noting that they were all being getting it. I realize that a prescription is not evidence of an effective treatment plan for any given person. But it is evidence of doctor’s care. Doctor’s do not write scripts unless a patient comes to them.

      Don’t give up your guns. Don’t give up your meds. Don’t give up on our system.

    33. Mental health is the avenue to gun confiscation..

      300 million prescriptions for psychiatric drugs were written in 2009 alone..
      Where would politicians and media begin the confiscation – maybe parents
      of children with ADHD, the list is endless….

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    35. The simple truth is that, despite all our improved imaging technologies to look at the brain morphology and activity – and our knowledge of its functional areas – as they relate to identification of specific functions by morphology and even genetics … our knowledge of functioning of the brain is still very crude … very granular and gross in nature. Clinicians are pressured by multiple factors including their own desire to find solutions and help, to the economics of the medical system – to friends, relatives, and parents of patients … to find solutions. Usually the only arrow in their quiver that they can deploy for a solution is pharmacological. So they do what they can – and even those few (most will not) who will admit that it is very poor and imperfect as a solution, have no other real options – so they too simply write a pharma prescription. MOST of the pharma dispensed is neither due to true and intractable mental illness nor a solution to it. It is a profitable way of efficiently getting everyone thru a medical office and ensuring ongoing income from repeat visits. Pretty simple really – follow the money.

    36. I had a brain aneurysm a few years back and have always had problems with depression. I am one of those people that are not consistent with taking the antidepressants because I could never find the right thing. And after the aneurysm it all got much worse. I have since had to remove myself from all of these drugs because I get extremely agitated and have problems controlling my anger. It took me quite a while to figure out what was triggering me but I decided to try without them and although I haven’t had all perfect days I definitely don’t have as many extreme bad days as I once did. I don’t believe that this is the answer to our mental health problems but a band aid and a way to make the healthcare system more damn money than they already have. These medicines are poison and I have learned that first hand not by a testimony or some article I read. By living through it daily. But the government has to make their billions some way right?

    37. I’m pretty sure countries like Britain, Germany, Japan, Spain, France, Canada, Italy, Australia, Netherlands etc all have mentally ill people who take meds – so why don’t they have mass public shootings, never mind an average of one every 8 days since Sandy Hook?

    38. Woah! I thought that if psychotropic drugs were common in nearly every mass shooting over the last 20 years that all of those shooting would have two things in common…drugs AND weapons.

      And to think, this whole time I thought that the only way me, my friends, or other innocent people could be killed in a mass shooting was if there was a weapon involved! Boy was I wrong! Silly me!

      Oh wait…this sadly titled piece was written by a staunch gun supporter, for a website called ammoland, and doesn’t list any credible sources?

      See, I too encourage people to make up their own minds, yet also encourage the people that want a potentially more helpful and objective opinion on the topic to not get it here.

      I mean, while one might assume that people crazy enough to shoot a lot of people might be taking something for their craziness. I know I personally have no authority on the subject and have no right to make any assumptions for or against that argument….and while I have no problem with people’s views on either side of this topic, it just bothers me when people write really subjective articles with the intention of making their readers think that they are just reading another quality piece of unbiased journalism.

    39. All that tells me is that most of the people in the cases you cited were mentally ill. Did you know mistakenly treating a schizophrenic with an antidepressant can lead to a psychotic break. Did you know many of our jails have more people who are mentally ill and never received treatment that actually bad or evil people. Many crimes and horrific acts of violence could be prevented if only families and the medical community could place these people in the hospital for observation if they feared they might lose control or do something dangerous. But individual freedom ACLU and lack of government and insurance funding prevent pre-emptive care. This also tragically fills our jails and the ranks of homeless people.

    40. so blaming the medication is simply the answer? blaming guns is simply the answer? there is no simple answer to these tragedies. Many of these individuals committing these crimes are young children with undeveloped brains. Now add psychotropic medication, which by the way is an unheard of amounts for young teens, is not the only answer. The doses of medication are affecting the brain which in turn causes the outrageous side effects. What one may believe is the right thing to do to escape pain and suffering is not what majority of society would say is right. Does it have a role, yes probably. However that being said, every medication that was mentioned within this article I have been on, and in extreme amounts to battle my many bouts with depression. So if SSRI’s, antipsychotic medication and anti-anxiety pills are to blame than why have I not committed a mass tragedy and taken my own life? Instead I turned my disease into a passion to help others and am currently pursing a PhD in Clinical Psychology to help children believe they are good people in a dark place. The medication is not the sole cause of blame. Perhaps we should be turning our attention to how these children walked into these dark places. How about we take some action upon the first warning signs instead of sit around and point fingers at guns, drugs or media. Lets put the children first for once so we can have a brighter happier future.

      1. Very well said but I also believe that people brains are different and the (I call them the mean genes) that are past down and then doctors add the psychotropic medication and alcohol on to that and then the games and T.V. shows that they watch and then parents, a lot of single parents can ruin a child’s life and not even know it. I grew up in the projects and I’ve seen first hand at how mean a person can be without being on anything (but mostly alcohol when they were), men beating their wives to the point of putting them in the hospital, people shot, people stabbed, guy’s beating each others brains in and even beating someone to death, but I guess my point is that when you take people like this that I believe are just born mean and evil and then you add these psychotropic meds and or alcohol and then we all have a problem but I’ve never seen none of this happen to anyone while someone was just smoking pot alone with nothing else. But I’m proud for what you are doing in your life.

    41. “One need only Google relevant key words” pretty much indicates how accurate I think this is.

      Anyone can Google a bunch of statistics and make a bunch of false assumptions based on them. When are people going to starting taking responsibility for their actions instead of blaming everything but themselves?

    42. Makes sense…another good reason why background checks are so important before buying firearms.

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