Homeland Security Actively Collecting Gun Owner Info, Collaborating With States

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Homeland Security Actively Collecting Gun Owner Info, Collaborating With States
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Manasquan, NJ –-(Ammoland.com)- Since breaking the story of NY State Gun Owner Daivd Lewis being ordered to turn in his gun's by NY State Police skyrocketed to the center of the National conversation on Gun Control/Gun Rights last week, going viral overnight and being discussed as the lead story on “The Blaze“, “The Glenn Beck Show”, NY State talk radio, local NY State News Stations and the Megyn Kelly Show on Fox News on Friday.

But now, even more disturbing revelations have come to light.

NY State Talk Radio Host Tom Bauerle discussed on his program that several sources inside NY State Govt have told him that the Dept of Homeland Security played an active role in meeting and collaborating with NY State Officials to develop and implement the confiscation scheme that targeted David Lewis and an as yet unknown number of others.

News out of Missouri has recently revealed that Govt Officials in that State have been transmitting the records of all State Residents holding firearms carry permits to the Dept of Homeland Security as well.

Its easy enough to say that the situation in NY is a “one off”, “happenstance” incident with no evil intentions and blame it on a confusing State Law that was rushed through the Legislature without anyone reading it or understanding its real world effects.

But when the same activity The Dept of Homeland Security is alleged to be deeply involved in: in two separate States with exerting their powers to collect information on private American Citizens who have committed no crime and own firearms, then that is not a coincidence, its the beginning of a peak behind the current of exactly what the Federal Govt is up to.

If you've ever put together a puzzle, you know that the jumbled, individual pieces make it nearly impossible to determine what the end result will look like, but as you slowly and methodically start to identify where those individual pieces fit, a recognizable picture begins to take shape.

So lets look at the puzzle pieces we already have and see if we can determine what kind of picture they might produce once they are all assembled.

We know there has been a concentrated propaganda and smear campaign conducted against millions of American Citizens, as well as Veterans, as “potential domestic terrorists“. Whether this type of propaganda is disseminated by individual hate groups or by a government, it serves only one malevolent purpose the World over, to dehumanize the targeted group and make it socially palatable to attack them.

We know that at least some Officials at both the State and Federal Level, having a long and well established history of obsessive Anti Gun statements and policy actions have already acknowledged that firearms confiscation was a policy goal.

We know that those same rabidly Anti Gun Officials at both the State and Federal Level, as well as many, many others, such as the tyrannical mayor of Gotham, Micheal Bloomberg, and Vice President Biden have been single mindedly focused on banning and confiscating the most common and popular types of firearms in America, so called “Assault Weapons” which also happen to be the best platforms for self defense against multiple attackers.

We know that DHS has yet to provide a credible and reasonable explanation for their purchase of over 2 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition, enough to fight a war for almost 25 years, but a round that is banned by the Geneva Convention from use in International Warfare.  (Editors Note, the linked article was written when the purchase amount was “only” one billion rounds, a figure that has since doubled in the span of a few months.)

We know that there have been multiple credible reports dating back to last Summer, including pictures; about The Dept of Homeland Security acquiring and distributing across the Country heavily armored MRAPP vehicles painted menacingly in flat black, sporting gun ports and Anti Rocket metal bars across the windows, but lettered innocuously as “Rescue Vehicles”

We know that DHS also purchased several thousand armored check point booths, sort of “mobile” toll booth style structures, for as yet unknown and thus far unexplained purposes. The most likely of which is the establishment of checkpoints.

And we know that the pending Manchin-Toomey deal on expanded Background Checks has nothing so much to do with punishing criminal misuse of firearms, as it does with preventing people from acquiring firearms without the Government knowing who has them.

Taken as individual pieces of the puzzle, any one of these points is easily discarded as “not fitting”, what we imagine in our minds the actual end picture looks like. But when one endeavors to put those pieces together, and entertain the idea that they may actually fit where they do, you eventually reach a point of critical mass and the end picture suddenly snaps into stark focus.

The end picture of these various activities and policies at both the State and Federal Level is rapidly approaching that “critical mass” stage and what is emerging and should be self evident from the puzzle pieces enumerated in this analysis is a picture of only one thing.

By all outward appearances, the Government is actively preparing to go to War with a significant portion of its own Citizens.

“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.”
― Thomas Paine

“The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men.”

Samuel Adams

More articles, commentary and information by D. Roberts available at That Every Man Be Armed.com

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RiverRat
RiverRat
7 years ago

Here in Ohio our CCW permit is “attached” to our drivers licence. All it takes is a call to the BMV office! And the INFO is theirs!!!! Remember driver licence info is NOW in a NATIONAL database, accessible to ANY law enforcement AGENCY! Along with increased ATF Fed employees to canvas FFL retailers, you now have mobility #’s, Firearms #’s, CCW #’s, and geographic “hot spot” locations, all very good pre invasion intel….

Fu#kObama
Fu#kObama
7 years ago

To Bob Damon:

I live in Missouri and have been following this story since it was uncovered. Bob, your a idiot. The ATF requested this information and it was supplied to them twice. Now why do you think the ATF wants this?

Jay Nixon and Kostner are both headed for impeachment, just wait and see. Your either stupid or complicent or both.

PFC Kujo
PFC Kujo
7 years ago

All in all my personal opinion is that should ANY government agency approach the general population demanding the surrender of arms, even under duress of threat or incarceration, they wouldn’t get very far. The initial few may surrender their arms just to go along with law enforcement, but the vast majority will be able to see it on CNN before a nation-wide lock down would be able to be enforced.

As a soldier I swore to uphold the constitution, and to defend it and the American public from all threats, foreign and domestic. Try getting my rifle, really, try…

wildman
wildman
7 years ago

As its been pointed out that the gov has trolls posting all kinds of exciteful posts so beware. But the price of ammo isnt going to drop anytime soon and this whole thig with dhs smells to high heaven, the contracts for ammo, m-raps , and 7000 select fire ar rifles for ( self defense). If they arent readying for war what the hell would you call it, a sunday picnic!!! JUST KEEP BUYING AMMO AND ARMS AND GET READY, ITS COMING LIKE A FRIEGHT TRAIN!!!

Johnny Nightrider
Johnny Nightrider
7 years ago

Also if you can.Go to gun training schools for the rifle and pistol.You will come out a better shot and learn something maybe you don’t already know.Hopefully the manufacturers will make alot more ammo of coarse, and so many people won’t be hoarding and panic shopping so prices of ammo and certain firearms go down.Where I live there’s one semi-auto pistol caliber that the local gun store has alot of ammo for.Its the .40 S&W.

Johnny Nightrider
Johnny Nightrider
7 years ago

The Boston Marathon Incident was tragic especially the 8 year old young man being killed.Its good it wasn’t done with firearms or law abiding responsible gun owners would catch even more crap from President Obama.Hopefully Homeland Security will stop looking at law abiding responsible gun owners and go after the evil bastards that conducted this terrible bombing X2 in Boston during the Marathon.Though you know there going to try and disarm the United States of America so that we can’t defend against a tryannical govt. or express our Second Amendment Right to keep and bear arms.So that we can defend… Read more »

LL
LL
7 years ago

Damon is lying.

here’s the story on the disks, that was a SECOND transfer of data that the feds CLAIMED they couldn’t read. They already got the list o another occasion.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/04/daniel-zimmerman/mo-highway-patrol-sends-concealed-carry-data-to-feds/

Mike
Mike
7 years ago

Here we are again with people of power releasing information to the feds that is “against the law” in their state. When are you going to realize that they are looking to socialize us “freedom loving citizens”. The ones that don’t cooperate and defend their property and family against our “loving government” will either be dead or will be relocated to a DHS camp in work detail. Obama and his corrupt cabinet has it out for the United States and will stop at nothing to see his plan come to fruition. Impeach them all or file charges and arrest them… Read more »

Harry
Harry
7 years ago

A revolution is coming and the sheeple don’t even know it.

RF
RF
7 years ago

This portion of Bob Damon’s 7:48am post is pure disinfo in and of itself. “DHS has had those MRAPs since 2006. They only have 17, one for each regional office. And they really do have them to use as shields for officers and people hey rescued.” I have physically seen with my own eyes and counted 18 of these trucks spread out over a very long convoy on US Highway 200 and I-15 near Great Falls, MT on three separate days in the past 3 months. So don’t you dare try to tell me there are only 17 of them… Read more »

Read Carefully
Read Carefully
7 years ago

Bob Damon thank you!!! So many people have their tinfoil hat on too tight and spread bad information as a result. People need to realize that a large amount of the disinformation comes from people wanting to sell precious metals and survival gear. It is a form of scare tactic just like the government uses. The general story is “If I feed the masses bad information, maybe they will buy my product that I’m pushing.” I love a good conspiracy theory just as good as the next guy, but I also do the research behind the scenes and don’t accept… Read more »

HBH
HBH
7 years ago

daman if you despise ammoland as much as you say false info etc.,then spread your pro gov bullshit where someone might buy it HBH

HBH
HBH
7 years ago

damon,you’re a total idiot and prob.are a federal punk spreading their bullshit. We know whats going on and it will never work.Give up your weapons if you want,I never will !!! HBZh

HBH
HBH
7 years ago

Them sonofabitches try getting confidential CHL info.on Texans they will be told to go to hell ! Gov.Perry and AG Abbott have already told the bastards that. HBH

Brian L
Brian L
7 years ago

to bob damon – I have seen these HEAVILY FORTIFIED “Police” towers employed in three states (you said they only bought one “mobile traffic tower” BULL**). They used at least one for the convention in Charlotte NC, & others in DC. You seem to be working for the feds. Are you?

Roscoe
7 years ago

What shlep could believe a state authority would transmit info to Feds incrypt so they could not read it. Why bother sending anything? And if the read failed for some trch reason the Feds would just get the info in the clear. Its not like anyone would tell them “NO you can’t”. Bob come on are you a drone or a fraud? There may not be enough evedence to convince you but their isnt enough evidence to clear the fed either. The 2nd A has NEVER been in the way of Nat’l securiety for the Republic only for those who… Read more »

Shawn Grammont
Shawn Grammont
7 years ago

This is highly illegal. The State Government can’t transmit information of their legally registered gun owners to Homeland Security. This act violates the U.S. Constitution.

Buck
Buck
7 years ago

just reading the comments I am convinced this nation will very shortly be an enslaved communist ” utopia ” .

hipshotpercusion
hipshotpercusion
7 years ago

April 19th 1775 was and still remains “Patriots Day.” That was the day, “those embittered farmers fired the shot heard round the world.” Please read some American history.

D.A. Moran
7 years ago

Im sorry, but does the side off that battle truck actually say rescue?

Ben L.
Ben L.
7 years ago

This should be a wake up call to everyone. The Missouri Dept of Revenue provided the personal information of about 165,000 CCW permit holders to the feds in November…..then again in January! This was against state law, but they did it anyway. The Governor, when asked about it, denied that any such information was provided to some “magic federal agency”. His comment was clearly intended to demean those who were (and still are) alarmed about this. Less than 2 days after he made this statement publicly, the Superintendent of the Missouri State Highway Patrol reluctantly confirmed that the transfer of… Read more »

kyheadhunter
kyheadhunter
7 years ago

Disarmed subjects easier to bring about agenda 21.

kyheadhunter
kyheadhunter
7 years ago

We all should now know it’s not the killings in Conn, Colo, or any place else that has brought on this gun control laws. It’s this world wide UN Small Arms Agreement. Obama wants to be a “team player” and gut our right to bare arms. The NWO is the goal and Obama wants to be a part of it.

Mark Gregory,,Koernke
7 years ago

Note:All of the data that is collected through any guber-mint agency is KEPT, P E R I O D. The rest is a lie through word twisting.All data is back up transferred overseas to both Interpol and the Isreali’s in Haifa and their collection/retrieval data base there.This word play is like all of the rest of the lies.”We” don’t keep it.(the other guys do it for us)Example:question about armed helicopters at Waco.”We didn’t have guns “on” the choppers.True and a LIE.The men “IN” the choppers had the guns and straifed down through the roofs over and over and over again.(remember… Read more »

WhoWuddaThunkIt
WhoWuddaThunkIt
7 years ago

One thing I do have facts and confidence in, and that is the True American Patriot. Regardless of the debate on how many bullets, check point booths or armored personnel carries were purchased by the government, nor what illegal or ineffective laws are created by rogue politicians, the Gun Shows are packed to the gills, barely breathing room to get down the isles, and ammo and guns are selling at a record rate. That my friends is true American patriotism and living freedom, which protects us from traitors, tyrants and terrorists who wish to do us harm.

Bushwacker
Bushwacker
7 years ago

Add this to the information coming from the whistleblower in the VA. FULL INTERVIEW: VA Doctor Exposes National Gun Confiscation Program http://xrepublic.tv/node/2921 Daily they started calling us terrorists. As time went by their actions and oath breaking they are now creating what they “TERM” terrorists. (you know the people who haven’t done anything at all — those terrorists) I predict, it won’t be long before what they CALL a terrorist, actually gives these oath breakers (from ICLEI, to evil DSM exploiting shrinks, to straight up oath breaker holding office) of their own twisted medicine. See the problem is, NONE OF… Read more »

kyheadhunter
kyheadhunter
7 years ago

This happening in NY is just a test to see the reaction will be before they try in nation wide.
If gun control doesn’t pass in congress Obama will declare gun control on his own. Then it will be grab your ankles and bend over.

Robert Kreisler
Robert Kreisler
7 years ago

@Bob… Absence of evidence is not proof, but evidence of absent information is often a clue to conspiracy. There can be no dispute by any American that our nation is trending toward less liberty rather than more. Ask yourself why a Federal agency would have any business receiving gun owner CCW lists in the first place, whether encrypted or not, when we have no national reciprocity. And why would DHS need such information and not ATF? Do you really think that the encryption can’t be broken or that DHS won’t conveniently happen to “find” the key – be it provided… Read more »

D. Murphy
D. Murphy
7 years ago

WE would not be in this situation if the electorate was educated and well informed (as Jefferson intended) and those who care about the Constitution actually got off the couch and VOTED. You get the government you deserve and we have been given democrats by the uninformed and low information voter. This utimatley is our fault..

Mark Gregory,,Koernke
7 years ago

Total contract projection per fiscal years 2013 and 2014 exceed 4.9 BILLION rounds and are all verified numbers BEFORE the AmeriKan copy of the Interior Police of the KGD,you know,Homeland Suck-urity(DHS) made all of the purchasing information “Restricted” per Police State Policy.Smells like a PIG, looks like a PIG,acts like a PIG(and is run by a QUEER)That is the core of the POLICE STATE….DHS. Compromising with Soviet Socialists is signing your own death warrant.I don’t think I’ll pick up that pen and be part of that “contract”. Only an IDIOT,INCOMPETANT,FOOLor COWARD would think that compromise with such filth is OK.… Read more »

Bob Damon
Bob Damon
7 years ago

The weakest link in our defense of our second Amendment rights is the spread of bad information and those that will not take the time to read, verify, and understand what they read. You don’t have to believe me that this story contains inaccurate information, you can check all of these stories yourself. If your 2A rights are important to you, you will take the time to find and understand, not just be a sheep eating whatever you are fed. My guess is you won’t spend any time seeking information, you will just continue to take the easy path, and… Read more »

Mark Gregory,,Koernke
7 years ago

War is coming.Buy what ever arms and ammo you can find.If it’s not in central warehouses then it is that much harder to try to take.(which they will)Organize,arm,equip and train as a Militia/team for mutual defense.Set up a 5/10 program in your AO.logistics.More is better.The Blue Lodge State Police are bought and paid for by the FED.MJTF and JTF operations are their bread and butter.Police states are NOT accurate nor do they want to be.”this must be a mistake”is always mumbled by the victim.The Police state knuckle dragger will always say”Yes,yes,Comrade.We will figure it all out in the Gulag.Now shut… Read more »

Seanoamericano
Seanoamericano
7 years ago

How much do they pay you to spread dis info and cover for DHS? Here in the desert its going to get hot in those vehicles with no AC quick with no gas and locked inside.
I dont understand why or how you can deny the facts and ignore warnings and call your self an American No matter what you call it, how you justify it. how much you deny it, its just a bunch of losers and control freaks

Boib Damon
Boib Damon
7 years ago

I clicked on your reference to the ‘mobile toll booth” , DHS only bought 1 booth.
It is not mobile.
If you follow this link, you can see a photo of the booth installed at DHS in Harpers Ferry.

http://www.sheltersdirect.com/gallery/Dept%20of%20Homeland%20Security%20-%20Bullet%20Resistant%20Guard%20Booth.pdf
With less than a minute of googling, I found they sell these to a lot of different groups.
The Westminster Presbyterian church bought one,
NY Transit Authority bought 31.
NASA bought 6
If you visit the Shelters Direct website, they have a long list of customers.
http://www.sheltersdirect.com/featured_buildings_booths_bullet_resistant_mobile_booths_md_va_pa_dc.php

Bob Damon
Bob Damon
7 years ago

Sorry, just not true. I am disappointed that Ammoland would sensationalize and spread false information. The state of Missouri did send CCW data, but DHS was unable to read the data tapes, they are encrypted. The y are not really buying 1 or 2 billion bullets. Without a long and complex explanation of US Federal Acquisition Regulations it will be difficult to understand, but basically, they have to place a high ceiling on any purchase, and that’s all they are doing. Take the time to find he source proposal and you will see the breakdown for each part of DHS.… Read more »