NY Gun Confiscation – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol ID & Firearms

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Manasquan, NJ –-(Ammoland.com)- Remember all those who denied that firearms confiscation as a result of New York’s new gun laws was too “insane” to even consider?

That it was strictly in the realm of paranoid conspiracy theorists and the “it cant happen here crowd”?

Those were and remain some of the standard replies to anyone who even thought about the possibility, let alone gave voice to it, despite the fact that Gov Cuomo and numerous other officials made public comments about such a plan, as I discussed in my article “Feinstein & Cuomo Admit Planning Australian Style Government Gun Buy Back” .

Elected Officials, the media, various Gun Control Groups and their zealous forced disarmament supporters, even some firearms owners themselves all insisted it was to crazy to even consider.

There’s just one huge problem it is happening now in New York State!
It seems those that tried desperately to warn of such an insidious plot had hit the bullseye with their warnings after all. News came from multiple NY State based firearms enthusiast websites late Friday that confiscations of Pistol Owner ID Cards, as well as firearms and accessories has commenced in NY under the provisions of the horribly flawed, draconian and blatantly unconstitutional NY SAFE Act.

Those folks having their weapons and FID cards confiscated  have been discovered to have been prescribed multiple different types of psychotropic drugs, such as those for Depression or Anxiety. These are known as SSRI ( Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) class drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to initiate a concentrated denial of service hacker attack against Ammoland Shooting Sports News (see Daily KOS ” Keeping Track Of The RKBA Crowd” http://tiny.cc/ug67uw),  in an effort to keep the information from the public.

From NY http://tiny.cc/nyfirearms

“John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.

Those are the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now, before anyone trots out the old saw about how this is nothing more then a paranoid, unsubstantiated rumor on a “gun nuts” internet forum. I spoke to the Attorney of Record in this matter on the phone this morning and he confirmed that the above snippet is accurate and these cases are happening!

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James Tresmond Esq confirmed in our conversation that the above mentioned case is occurring in Erie County NY, it is his client that has been effected, and as yet unknown sources have seen fit to take it upon themselves to share confidential medical records with NY State Officials without authorization, a massive HIPPA violation.

It seems these supposedly confidential records are then compared against a list of known NY pistol license holders and letters are sent out demanding their Pistol Owner ID Cards be surrendered, as well as any firearms and accessories.

Here is a link to the Attorney of Record on this case, Jim Tresmond, giving a radio interview on the Tom Bauerle Show on WBEN 930AM/107.7 FM:

http://www.wben.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=6319907

This is an unprecedented violation of a Citizens 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment RIGHTS, brought to fruition by power and control hungry tyrants holding elected office who swore an Oath to uphold and defend the very rights they are now actively stripping from their constituents.

Moreover, the confiscation efforts underway in NY State have had another, albeit unintended effect. By undertaking this course of action, those in power have inadvertently pulled back the curtain on something they have suppressed from the Citizens for far to long, leaving them with precious little wiggle room to explain away their actions.

  • Either they are acknowledging that there is in fact some sort of little reported link between the prescribing of psychotropic drugs and violent behavior, thus they are somehow, at least in their own minds “justified” in their actions to preempt someone from violence.
  • Or, this is nothing more then a backdoor confiscation effort and massive abuse of governmental power unleashed on innocent Citizens.

Those are the only two possible explanations.

If anyone still feels some level of doubt regarding the veracity of this story, Attorney Tresmond welcomes anyone to visit his website tresmondlaw.com, Facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/james.tresmond.7 ), or send an email to [email protected]

Mr Tresmond asks that those making inquiries be mindful and respectful of the fact that they have been deluged with inquiries in recent days and therefore a personal reply may be delayed or impossible due to the volume.

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Charles Austin Miller

I live in a liberal little town on the East Coast where your neighbors would stab you in the back in a heartbeat…but they’ll still come running to you for whatever “help” you might offer them, as long as it was for FREE. I’ve made it known in this town that I’m pro-America, I’m pro-Constitution, I won’t take shit off of any of them, and my neighbors shun me. I also happen to be the best-armed individual on my street, and I’m interested to see how these cowards react when TSHTF. I bet you ANYTHING they’ll be on my front… Read more »

USA-Citizen

Something I haven’t seen talked about is getting to know your neighbors. Get to know who is for and who is against gun rights in your neighborhood. See who would be willing to come over and help defend you and your family. There are few places now where most people know their neighbors. If they come to confiscate your guns illegally an entire neighborhood would be pretty intimidating to a group of police trying to conduct a search and seizure. Remember that most police don’t want to confiscate, but they still want to feed their family and if you give… Read more »

Q.D. McGraw

Thank you Wow.It’s amazing how lathered up Some people get into a froth by listening to jugheads,ditto heads,blockheads &shitheads.TRY using a dictionary as you mouth and finger read The Constitution.

Wow

Folks…spelling and punctuation. Some of you REALLY should look into it. At the very least, I could get through one of your rants without laughing so hysterically. Here’s a couple other things to look into: * If you’d read the 2nd amendment instead of having Sean Hannity just regurgitate it to you, you’d know the word “guns” does not appear. It says “arms”. And we all agree that, you can’t have tanks and missiles, even though those things are “arms”. Saying you can’t buy a cop-killer weapon does NOT mean you can’t have a gun. It just means you can’t… Read more »

mongo jones

I’m sure that no one ever thought it could happen to them when Hitler, Stalin, etc., etc., came into power & did it to them either…Then , before they knew what happened, millions of DEFENSELESS people were murdered…..whether this story is true or not, don’t believe that it couldn’t happen in the U.S., because it can happen ANYWHERE, if the people let it happen….History tends to repeat itself….ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Keith

Some of you need to get your info elsewhere, CHEESY – go to the monticello website and put in that quote you say Jefferson made and you’ll see that he never said anything even remotely close to it, BULL SHIT et al – the NRA was the one who said medical records for the mentally ill should be in the system because they should not be allowed weapons, SCIPIO – best recheck your sources since it’s either impossible to say some of them were Democrats since that info isn’t publicly available or that more likely they weren’t Dems because of… Read more »

Nobody wants your guns

nobody wants your guns. there is no tyranny. we, the majority elected someone you don’t like, and it is making you crazy. sorry about that. keep your guns, keep your crazy, enjoy.

Robert Wing

I think this story is a scam of some sort. I believe the author talked to the attorney but I question the legitimacy of the attorney. I can’t find anything credible about him. His email address is a free gmail account. His web page is a generic template with no links, his facebook page is old and outdated. There were several news station that reported he was filing a class action suit against the state earlier this year, but it appears none of them verified the stories they reported. He looks very unprofessional in these stories and hasn’t even put… Read more »

Bull Shit

What about the HIPPA Act? Those people’s medical records is private. It is illegal to give out any information about a patient to anyone without that person’s permission. That leaves the medical facilities at fault for a lawsuit…

JAG

Since half the population has been on anti-anxiety med’s at one point or another, this will be quite a house to house rampage for them. Good luck New Yorkers.

If there are any Americans left in that State, I suggest you leave now.

Cheesy

“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”
― Thomas Jefferson
And “reality check” – you’re an ignorant asshole.

MRParker75

We are living in what is known to many as the last days. In order to protect our rights, we will have to become criminals. This country was founded, fought for, bled for and died for by many a militiamen. We still maintain militias even today. The US of A is turning into a country that is no better than North Korea, China, or any of the other dictatorships the world over. We were a democracy. Then we turned into a republic. Now we have nothing more than a group of Tyrants turning our beloved country into a military state.… Read more »

MI Patriot

If they are getting this information from medical professionals, then the people who are getting their gun rights taken away need to sue the medical professional. HIPPA is to health care what atty-client privilege is to a criminal. I guess that confidentiality only pertains to the gov’t, not the health care field.

Aunt Jane

Reality Check on April 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM said:

Pass the tin foil and the hand grenades! They should be using people’s online posting history for evidence of mental illness. You really are a bunch of nuts

Hey I don’t need a tin foil hat to figure that may be exactly what they are doing! If they want to target some overworked lady who is stressed out with job family and sick parents who takes Paxil to cope they will stop at nothing! Anything for control and power because that is what this is about, control and power!

VT

I am totally with you on all regards about not letting our rights to be violated or to allow the govt to disarm us. Please note that HIPAA has two As not two Ps. It doesn’t seem like a big deal if the abbreviation is typed wrong, but it just gives all of the haters a reason to excuse the truly valid point(s) that you are trying to make. Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act ( HIPAA )
Essayons!

bill blass

I have one thing to say to you Stupid ass fuking new yorkers. you all act like your so fukin smart, you think you have all the answers. what you have is nothing. your finished, caput, gonzo. you let these stupid assholes push you around like your butta. you have no back bone to stand up for whats right. pussies the whole lot of you.bloomberg is a fag and likes having is dik suked by his new yorkers. you all deserve just what you allow to happen to yourselves. If any of ya had a dick you would not a… Read more »

Gil

The post above is the only truth I have seen on many of these websites and they are true, research then for your seles and you too will be amazed at how far the powers that be will go to control and enslave you and your for their own bebefits, as has been done in China and Russia, and in many African countries, as wel as Europe, and gun confiscation is the end all result, and there are killers among you now just like the Lanza dipstick who have been programed to seek out those who they most fear, and… Read more »

Joseph Jr

The insanity will be fulfilled if Any Supreme Court finds these a legal and constitutional law. Then it will be up to the people to take back that which only our Creator can give. Our Constitutional rights. NY has long been a cesspool of communist jackasses. Yet they keep voting them back into power. The sickness is not a mental disease but a social one. God save us from our own stupidity. We have done exactly what Ronald Reagan and our founding fathers have warned us not to do. Allow our freedoms to be voted away.

Jude Iscariot

Alexander Scipio is a crazy man. The Sikh temple shooter was in a far right band. I guess it’s not convenient to the narrative to mention that. Crazy people that kill others come from all backgrounds. JLL wasn’t a democrat so much as an insane person with anti-government insanity all over his MySpace page. Who was it that CHP officers had a shoot out with the other year? Oh, a right-wing guy who planned to go shoot up a left-wing organization. Right. Stop blaming party politics and get over yourself, because you’re not helping anybody. If we spend all of… Read more »

Wow

Yeah, nothing vague or ambiguous about THIS article. It is absolutely amazing what some people are willing to believe…some of you would actually believe the sky was green if Fox News and its affiliate wacko-sites told you so. This is complete hogwash.

C’mon people. Don’t be sheep. Wake up and smell the gunpowder. You’re being lied to and taken advantage of by people who want you to keep buying guns and ammo…and they are laughing all the way to the bank at YOUR expense.

Steve

I Support Gun Rights Consider the 2nd Amendment Sacred and Not to be Altered in Any way. Believe Guns Should Not Be Controlled. I have Never Owned a Gun and Don’t have any Plans To Get any. However I know What I Think Is Right and What Is Being Done To Control Guns Is Wrong. The Following are Facts and Not Paranoia Which is Why Thy Want People To Believe It is as referred to as Conspiracy Theory. Because of The Truth Of Information Act All The following Investigations have Been Revealed To Be True And Accurate. Starting In or… Read more »

Phil

When are people going to realize,you have no rights anymore.When all is said and done,the tyrants too will go the way,like bin laden,Gaddafi,and Hussein.These people are their own worst enemies.Let history repeat it self

Michael Rice

Reality Check on April 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM said:

Pass the tin foil and the hand grenades! They should be using people’s online posting history for evidence of mental illness. You really are a bunch of nuts.

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I bet the Jews and the Cambodians and the Russians, among others, were all told the same thing.

And you are a little behind…they already do that..with posts.

By the way, which part of the facts make US nuts?

C. Os

Why doesn’t anyone charge after the white house and DEMAND their arrest for these rights they are stealing away, as they have been breaking apart our constitution since the obamas took office….????? The entire government is selling us out, if something isn’t being done about this!!! The revolt is about to start…..I feel it….

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Vin S

I live in Ct. Where before January 2014 They say I must register my hi cap mags. This is so that the next time a wack job who has been fed mind altering drugs from the time he or she could crawl snaps and kills someone the lawmakers can declare that all hi cap mags and the firearms that go with them can be located and seized. And if you happen to be caught with any unregestered hi cap mags you will be arrested and charged with a class B felony after which you will not be allowed to own… Read more »

jdrkanglo

I want to know how many will be shot attempting to confiscate the guns of those who refuse to turn in their legally owned guns. There will be a revolt and blood will flow. This is exactally what the democrats want to happen so they can declare martial law and under the guise of a national emergency they will go house to house to collect guns from legal gun owners.

citizen

No compliance,no registration. The law of the land is being violated by who swore to uphold it. The founders told us what to do in these circumstances.

michael

Don’t turn them in. The letter is just so officials don’t have to go door to door on a suicide mission to try to confiscate firearms.

MICHAEL KOLBA

FBI statistics show Violent Crime decreased 49% since 1992 to levels of 1970. Liberal Democrat Tyrants refuse to tell the truth in their knowingly Ignorant attempt to Lie up Crime statistic with Guns and the So Called Assault weapons useage. Even to go as far as to Hijack the FEMA/State Police School Safety DRILL AT THE INACTIVE Sandy Hook School that was scheduled on 12-14-12 with Crisis Actors, Event Badges and Refreshments and numerous illegally Parked Clustered together Police, Fire & EMS Vehicles not responding to any Emergency. Hijackers of the DRILL EVENT by the Main Stream Media & Murder… Read more »

Bill

Aint no goosestepping.
Germany never banned guns, Bolshevik J E W Run Russia did and killed 66 million CHristians.
The same dual citizen Israelis are running America into the ground.

JP

so file a class action lawsuit and quit your bitching, seriously if it’s wrong and it’s happening use YOUR power and fucking DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, it’s called a phone and a lawyer

Rebal

Its becoming that time. Do not give in to what they say, you have every right to protect yourself and to arm yourself, If they try and take my firearm they will receive the bullets first, Defend the constitution at all costs! Criminals don’t register guns citizens do! DO NOT LET THEM TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU, YOU ARE A CITIZEN OF THE USA AND YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO FIGHT FOR THE CONSTITUTION! THESE SOB’S NEED TO KNOW WE CAN’T BE DISARMED SO EASILY!!!

John Perry

The NY Safe Act does not have an exemption for LEOs, in fact, it was supposedly an “oversight”.

Rob pwitz

Can’t happen this is all bill they cannot take your guns. To change the constitution and take your guns 38 states have to agree.

Gabriel Alan King

Here we are… PRE CRIME !!!!

Keep in mind, “mental illness” is being used as a tool to violate the 2nd amendment. And the DHS has classified Christians, Constitutionalists, Veterans, and truthers as “mentally ill”.

In fact, just distrusting government is classified as “mental illness” dubbed “oppositional defiant disorder” by a bunch of gov paid quack snake oil psychiatrists- who have no basis in medical science whatsoever.

Criminals don’t obey gun laws, which only disarm citizens from defending themselves from tyranny and criminals. While the DHS stockpiles billions in hallow point, and paper targets of white middle class Americans.

John Waynefan

HIPAA??? You better re-read who gets your information! THE GOVERNMENT can access it, don’t be fooled, they are the ones that wrote it!

Bounty B. Wolf

Time to bug out of NY was last week. Get your stuff, pack your tools of freedom up and get out. Let the liberals deal with the rampant criminals who never had any firearms registered and therefor will not be included in the confiscation. When they have had enough then MAYBE the patriots will come in to save the sheeple from the wolves.

Hannah

Where do the guns go?

hal

the guns will probably end up in some cop’s locker at his/her house!

Edmund Gillette

If they turn them in, there bigger idiots than I thought.

Gary Harper

This is a good one for the ACLU to take up. This is the Trojan Horse of gun control. They will simply diasgnose everyone as having some sort of phobia, then say NO ONE in the US can own a gun. Especially Reality Check, who is showing irrational thinking. Read his post. Sell out and move to PA, or the Dakotas. Let NY sink in its financial mess and misguided liberal morass.

John Carr

What makes you think the ACLU will help gun owners. The people need to stand up and tell NY to kiss their ass. They have no right to check medical records. Wake up America and smell the gun powder.

AceDragon

I’m in California. Now Dianne Fenstien is going to try and do the same thing . Get Cities to confiscate guns. Every thing there doing is illegal. you need a court order to go through someones medical records. Even if there in Jail, or have been arrested. Lets see what happens when they start coming after the people who say F U to NYC. This might be the first city in the US to have cival unrest.

Kerry

No court order is needed. Under Obama care, doctors are required to report these drug prescriptions for gun owners. They are required to ask you if you are a gun owner in your pre exam information documentation. It is not just NY, it is nation wide. Under the 2013 law NYS actively cross references registered gun owners with prescriptions of certain drugs.

Jay Hanig

I cannot recall ever having been asked by a doctor if I was a gun owner or not. If I was, you can be pretty sure I’m not going to answer truthfully as it is none of his business. Although I have not personally been treated for anything beyond the usual physical maladies and injuries, I can see a wide spectrum between those merely being treated for depression and those who have homicidal or suicidal ideation. That’s a might broad brush they’re swinging.

Stephen

In CT, when seeking grief councelling for a tragic death in the family, Yale New Haven Hospital requires that you turn in any guns in your household, not just those registered to you. If you refuse, then they won’t admit you or treat you. In CT, you can seek help for a mental or emotional condition, or you can keep your guns, but not both. The result? Armed, untreated mental illness sufferers.

Reality Check

Pass the tin foil and the hand grenades! They should be using people’s online posting history for evidence of mental illness. You really are a bunch of nuts.

hippybiker

“Crouch down and lick the hands that feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” Scumbag!!!

GenEarly

Hand Grenades are an excellent suggestion, Comrade Check. I’m off to the gun store to get a baker’s dozen, and some 7.62 also. You Prog Socialists will rue the day you made the White Man Riot.

Max Fubar

You folks in NY State have two simple, easy to understand options: Learn to Goose Step or REVOLT! FYI – Under FEDERAL LAW it is illegal to go through a person’s medical records due to privacy laws. This is why HIPPA as installed, because it is supposed to prevent just this sort of abuse by employers, which INCLUDES LOCAL, STATE and FEDERAL governments, as they are employers and have a product (the function of government is a product) and so by indiscriminately trawling the medical records of its citizens, it is liable for civil and criminal actions brought about by… Read more »

Winghunter
Alexander Scipio

If they really want to end violence with guns, just make it illegal for Democrats to own them. Lanza? Democrat. Columbine shooters? Dem parents. Batman shooter? Democrat. Gabby shooter? Democrat. ALL these mass shooters are Democrats or had Dem parents. It really is a mental disease. If Dems want to demand an end to our Constitutional rights – they should start with themselves, leave it at that for a year or two and watch how no more crimes are committed, and leave it there. They hate the Constitution – fine – deprive THEM of it at THEIR demand.

lets get it together ppl

what about LEO’s that are seeing shrinks and takeing meds for the s*%t they deal with?

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