Illegal ‘No Weapons’ Signs At Rest Stops In Alabama

By Dean Weingarten

Illegal 'No Weapons' Signs At Rest Stops In Alabama
Illegal ‘No Weapons’ Signs At Rest Stops In Alabama
Dean Weingarten
Dean Weingarten

Arizona – -(Ammoland.com)-  It appears that some bureaucrat in Alabama has decided to post Alabamans’ rest stops with signs that are toxic to the second amendment and Alabama law.  As reported on opencarry.org, the signs say “No weapons beyond this point”.

It’s the AL rest stop eastbound I-10 @ AL/ MS line, about 15 miles west of Mobile.

According to Skidmark at opencarry.org, rest stops are not listed as prohibited places for possessing weapons.

Alabama’s preemption law was strengthened in 2013, as part of a package of second amendment friendly reforms.

Arizona, now known as one of the states most respectful of second amendment rights, had a similar problem with illegal signage of rest stops in the 1990’s.

It took activism by Arizona gun owners to have the signs removed.  An open carry picnic at the Sacaton rest stop on I-10 near Tucson was organized in 1998.  Rick Destephens, who was there, writes about it:

Have you noticed that there are no longer any signs at Arizona rest stops that read, “Keep all weapons in your vehicle”? That was Brassroots and S.A.F.E. combine effort back in 1998. We staged a forty-man protest at the Sacaton rest stop and five TV cameras showed up. We then got three hours of time on Bob Mohan’s show on KFYI. That resulted in Hull’s, ADOT’s and DPS’s phones melting down for two weeks. The signs came down later that month.

ALabama rest stop east of Opelika off I-85
ALabama rest stop east of Opelika off I-85 , Picture courtesy of Backwoods Engineer at BackwoodsEngineer.com

The picture below is reported to have been on the rest stop east of Opelika off I-85.

Alabama law specifically forbids the “Possession of firearms by persons participating in, attending, etc., demonstrations at public places.”  So a picnic at an Alabama rest stop would have to be careful not to fall under this statute, or be prepared to test the law in court.

It is clear that Alabama does not want the exercise of the first and second amendments to occur at the same time.   This is a violation of constitutional rights, and may be an opportunity for further reform.     The open carry of firearms is clearly a form of political speech.

I sent an email to [email protected] on January 9th, 2014,  Here are the questions that I asked:

1. Were the signs put up recently?

2. Were the signs authorized, and if so, by who or what agency?

3. What legal authority exists for putting up the signs?

I have not received a reply from the Alabama Department of Transportation.   Perhaps residents of Alabama would have better luck.   If you obtain answers to the above questions, I would like to know.

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About Dean Weingarten;
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973.  He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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John

Non-compliance may lead to safe passage, however if “Smokey” stops you, hopefully LEO understands the nuance of “state preemption”. Do you feel lucky?

Ceefour

Everybody knows that goblins don’t hang out at rest stops. And they definitely don’t need to be twarthed.

Yenta of Sipsey Street

Don’t be silly. No one in AL, FL, GA, MS, LA, or TX really pays attention to these signs. Criminals won’t, so the decent folk, in solidarity with the bad guys don’t either. The underlying legal principle is “Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.”

Sic semper tyrannis.

SWIFt

Resistance is duty!

Scott M

It’s my understanding that No Weapons signs in Alabama only applies to open carry. CCW is still permitted, even in posted areas. This is what our Sheriff has stated numerous times at various town hall type meetings and in press.

oldgringo

Oh this is just great…Another unenforceable liberal goody good rule sign to twarth would be criminals from disturbing my toilet needs!

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