Ohio Judges Declare Themselves a ‘Special Class’, Exempt from Carry Rules

By John Farnam

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Ohio Judges Declare Themselves a ‘Special Class', Can Conceal Carry Without Permits
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Ft Collins, CO –-(Ammoland.com)- This from friends in OH:

“Judges of our 4th District Court of Appeals, which covers fourteen counties in southeastern OH, are, by their own one-sided ‘proclamation,' are licensing themselves to carry concealed handguns, both while sitting on the bench and at all other times.

They are not extending that special privilege to anyone else!

This ‘proclamation‘ altogether bypasses the legal requirements, including training and proficiency, that we peons are required to obey in order to acquire state-issued concealed carry permits.

These judges travel from county to county holding hearings. While traveling, they are accompanied by a bailiff and an LEO, both armed.

One judge casually stated:

‘The probability of an (life-threatening) occurrence is, in reality, pretty low. But the impact, when it happens, is devastating.'

Is that so, your honor?

Well then, I suspect when anyone, even one of us lowly peons, encounters someone who is trying to murder us, one could also accurately describe the event as ‘devastating!'

Yet, the term, ‘devastating,' apparently only applies to judges. When the identical thing happens to any of us mere insignificant tax-paying citizens, it is merely ‘unfortunate.'

I am a staunch believer in individual Constitutional Rights, but government employees should never be allowed to create a ‘special class' of citizens, which includes only themselves, who enjoy ‘special privileges,' not available to the rest of us.

This smacks of arbitrary power and ‘arrogance-by-virtue-of-position,' the twin plagues our Founders fought so hard to purge from the New World.

Our media, which is supposed to call attention to this kind of blatant abuse of power, sees no problem!”

Back-story:

On September 4th an Ohio appellate court ruling has revived the debate over whether judges should be allowed to carry concealed weapons at all times.

The four judges in Ohio's 4th District Court of Appeals last week authorized themselves to carry concealed handguns both in and outside the 14 county courthouses in southeastern Ohio where they conduct sessions, the Ohio ‘Columbus Dispatch' reported.

The order requires the judges to secretly notify the county sheriff when they plan to show up for work with a gun, but exempts the judges from obtaining firearms training and a concealed-carry permit. State law permits judges, prosecutors, bailiffs and law-enforcement officers to be armed in courthouses, according to the Columbus Dispatch.

Ohio Supreme Court and Ohio Judicial Conference officials knew of no similar orders authorizing a group of judges to carry handguns off the job, according to the Columbus Dispatch.

The order, according to the Columbus Dispatch, came about after a defendant appeared before one of the judges with a disheveled appearance, though he never made any threats during his court appearance.

In Cuyahoga County, two judges have ended up on the other side of the bench in recent months, raise concerns about granting judges permission to carry concealed weapons at all times without a permit.

Comment:

As we see, “arbitrary power and ‘arrogance-by-virtue-of-position'” are alive and well! These judges, like our ‘news‘ media, have obviously forgotten who is working for whom.

Ohio's Attorney General needs to act!

“Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the US media.” ~ Noam Chomsky

/John

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  • 20 thoughts on “Ohio Judges Declare Themselves a ‘Special Class’, Exempt from Carry Rules

    1. I think I’m beginning to understand now why I hear so many people saying “Ohio is not part of the United States!” But then again, with so many biased and corrupt judges on the bench these days now, this saying would probably apply to many states in this country. You can’t “vote these judges out” they are APPOINTED the position!

    2. In a way, this is a good thing.

      Since the judges have authorized themselves to carry concealed, anyone else is now allowed to do so. After all, the Constitution guarantees us “equal protection under the law.”

      So, if they can do it, so can we. Simple.

    3. This is what is wrong in our country – you have a group of people that ignore The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of The United States & The Bill of Rights and declare themselves an “elite class” and better than the rest of us!!!

    4. We’ve seen other ‘special classes’,…feinstein,bloomberg,schumer,lautenberg,meztenbaum,.etc..etc..etc., !

    5. these guys are really Republicans? I have mixed feelings about that. Setting themselves up as an elite does not surprising at all. No integrity, no respect for anyone else, judges are indeed a class unto themselves, just ask them!

    6. To the victors belong the spoils? I might point out that this is really nothing new. Dianne Feinstein has long had a CCW, while judges, entertainment and business industry types are about the only ones that can obtain one in Los Angeles County other than LEOs.

      These type of administrative exemptions can likely all be successfully challenged, either individually or severally, simply by “standing” of an aggrieved class, I suspect.

      Even the Ninth Circuit, one of the if not the most liberal Federal Appellate courts has recently issued a decision stating that the 10 day waiting period after an instant background check was unconstitutional for the purchase of a handgun if the buyer has already obtained his handgun acquisition card.

      Let’s get to it, everyone. I’m sure SAF, CCRKBA, or any number of legal/legislative companies would entertain such a suit.

    7. By the way, it was also in our Plain Dealer the other day and the comments were hot.
      But they also had a few idiot supporters.

    8. And I live here.
      Just wait until the cover up when a judge shoots, misses and kills the defendsnt or the victim, you watch.

      Also in Ohio, ok, the guy was drunk, sleeping in his car, busted for that, ok.

      Then the try to charge him with having a firearm in the trunk of the car.

      So, he stopped to have a few too many on his way back from the range.

      I want to see if the gun charge gets tossed or not.

    9. they an obama will keep making their own laws as long AS WE LET THEM—see the problem?–
      na i did not think you would

    10. why do anyone , including the judges pack a conceal pistol , packing a conceal pistol make you as bad as the crooks

    11. I think they all are afraid of what they have wrought for us. I do believe they intentionally have brought us to this place and time and are fearful of us because of it. They have corrupted the laws in this country and now have to face the consequences of it.

    12. Missouri Revised Statutes stipulates these people/positions are exempt from standard mandatory training and licensing requirements of “John Q”. See Section (4) below:

      § 571.030(2) R.S.Mo. [§ 571.030(1)(8)] shall not apply to the persons described in this subsection

      (1) All state, county and municipal peace officers who have completed the training required by the police officer standards and training commission pursuant to sections 590.030 to 590.050 and who possess the duty and power of arrest for violation of the general criminal laws of the state or for violation of ordinances of counties or municipalities of the state, whether such officers are on or off duty, and whether such officers are within or outside of the law enforcement agency’s jurisdiction, or all qualified retired peace officers, as defined in subsection 11 of this section, and who carry the identification defined in subsection 12 of this section, or any person summoned by such officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while actually engaged in assisting such officer;

      (2) Wardens, superintendents and keepers of prisons, penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of crime;

      (3) Members of the Armed Forces or National Guard while performing their official duty;

      (4) Those persons vested by article V, section 1 of the Constitution of Missouri with the judicial power of the state and those persons vested by Article III of the Constitution of the United States with the judicial power of the United States, the members of the federal judiciary;

      (5) Any person whose bona fide duty is to execute process, civil or criminal;

      (6) Any federal probation officer or federal flight deck officer as defined under the federal flight deck officer program, 49 U.S.C. Section 44921 regardless of whether such officers are on duty, or within the law enforcement agency’s jurisdiction;

      (7) Any state probation or parole officer, including supervisors and members of the board of probation and parole;

      (8) Any corporate security advisor meeting the definition and fulfilling the requirements of the regulations established by the board of police commissioners under section 84.340;

      (9) Any coroner, deputy coroner, medical examiner, or assistant medical examiner;

    13. Sounds like to me,one of those judges might not be able to pass a criminal background check……
      Might have some skeletons in his/her closet, possible some Law School felony. …….

    14. I suppose my bias is showing…contrary to what I expected to find, three of the four judges on the Ohio 4th District Court of Appeals are listed as Republican. Which somehow makes their ‘arrogance-by-virtue-of-position’ even more annoying.

    15. WE TRUE AMERICANS “MUST” WAKE UP. WE NEED TO PUT GOD AND COUNTRY BACK IN OUR SCHOOLS, GIVE OUR KIDS BACK TO THEIR PARENTS. SINCE WHEN DOES A FEW GET TO TELL THE MARJORITY WHAT THE RULES ARE. WE MUST VOTE FOR TRUE AMERICANS NO MATTER WHAT PARTY. WE MUST GET RID OF ALL CURRUPT POLITIONS JUDGES AND A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO PRETEND TO BE. VOTE THEM ALL OUT! “THEY” ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY. OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, OUR CONSTUTION MAKES US TRE GREATEST. WE NEED TO RESTORE THOSE RIGHTS, “OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE”…… VOTE

    16. Typical of the state of Ohio. This is the same state in which I was CONVICTED of carrying a weapon in a PUBLIC PARK, while LICENSED BY THE STATE TO DO THAT VERY THING.

      That is also one of many reasons I am now a proud resident of the Great State of TEXAS!

    17. Although as disturbing and disgusting as this is, I have found it not at all uncommon for some judges to consider themselves as some kind of superior God, and they will “make up the rules as they go,” no matter how biased, corrupt, or illegal that may be! NO ONE is equal to or above them, and they will abuse their power anytime they feel a need to. When a judge or over zealous prosecutor does these sort of things and brought forth to answer for it, they are simply deemed a “mistake!” Hence, they are made bullet proof to everything and everyone. They can do no wrong, not even when they are caught red-handed doing it! Go figure.

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