Rare: Open Carrier Robbed by Armed Criminal

By Dean Weingarten

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Arizona – -(Ammoland.com)- In a nation of over 300 million people, rare events happen.

Yesterday, another rare event happened.   A person openly carrying a gun was held up at gun point and their gun was stolen.  It last happened, that I know of, in Milwaukee in 2010, before the state passed their shall issue concealed carry law in 2011.

In the Oregon event, 21 year old William Coleman had just purchased a pistol the previous day, and was openly carrying it in the Portland metropolitan area, in the early morning hours.  From oregonlive.com:

According to Gresham police, William Coleman III was talking to his cousin near 172nd and Glisan at about 2:10 a.m. on Saturday while openly carrying the gun he had purchased on Friday.

Coleman said a man, about 19- to 23-years-old, approached them, asking for a cigarette. Coleman said the man then inquired about Coleman's weapon, then pulled a pistol from his own waistband and said, “I like your gun. Give it to me.” Coleman handed over his new handgun and the suspect left on foot.

Yes, people who openly carry firearms are rarely robbed.   So are police.  A police officer was robbed of his gun and badge just a month ago, yet it did not make national news.   It is unsurprising that both the police officer and the young citizen exercising his rights were robbed during the early morning hours, in urban centers.  Approaching victims and using a ruse such as asking for a cigarette, is a common tactic of armed robbers.

Open carry has become more popular, with the practice legal in the vast majority of states.   Only six states ban the open carry of modern handguns in public places.  Most of the existing bans stem from old laws based on racial fears or by criminals intent on disarming their victims, such as in New York.   The Texas ban has its origins in the reconstruction government following the  Civil war.

California has been the only state to ban the practice recently, building on a ban on the open carry of loaded handguns that was enacted in response to  effective Black Panther lawfare in 1967.

The Black Panthers showed up at the state capitol, armed with loaded weapons in their hands on the day of the vote.   They could not have pushed harder to get the ban passed by a panicked legislature, except if they had brought contributions and weeping widows, which is what those who promote citizen disarmament do today.   The Panthers claimed that they were against the law, but it is hard to believe that they were unaware of the likely outcome of their actions.

California weapons law has always been aimed at disarming minorities.  It is the reason that California is one of only six states that does not have a right to keep and  bear arms provision in its state constitution.

The current California ban has had its unintended consequences.   It directly lead to the Peruta decision, that confirmed the right to bear arms outside of the home, for self defense.   The court directly said that if you ban open carry, you must allow concealed carry.  From the decision, available at this source on pdf:

See Cal. Penal Code § 26350 (prohibiting open
carry of an unloaded firearm); see also id. §§ 26150, 26155
(establishing a licensing procedure only for concealed carry).
And it has the power to do so: as the historical sources have
repeatedly noted, the state has a right to prescribe a particular
manner of carry, provided that it does not “cut[] off the
exercise of the right of the citizen altogether to bear arms, or,
under the color of prescribing the mode, render[] the right
itself useless.” Nunn, 1 Ga. at 243 (emphasis omitted).
California’s favoring concealed carry over open carry does
not offend the Constitution, so long as it allows one of the
two.

Unicorns make great stories, but bad policies.   It is part of human nature to view events as though they happened to us, and to make decisions based on that information.   Selection of what events are presented to the  public is a major tool of how those who control the flow of information control the debate.  On the other side of the coin, events that occur all the time are not considered news.  When millions of people carry openly everyday, without problems, it is not news.

c2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included. Link to Gun Watch

About Dean Weingarten;

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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Expensive lesson learned. Just glad he didn’t lose a more expensive item. His life. Carrying a gun does not make you safe if you don’t have the skill to know how and when to use it.
Now he will also have to answer questions when the gun is eventually used in a robbery, shooting etc……

LarryArnold
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LarryArnold

“Nothing good happens outside after midnight.”
My Mom

jd
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jd

if you open carry unloaded, take the mag, barrel and internals out….better yet, just use an airsoft.

The One
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The One

This is the reason for concealed carry. Open carry let’s the bad guy plan ahead. CC is a surprise… I think open carry is our right but CC should go in hand with it as back up. Just a thought.

teebonicus
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teebonicus

Nothing takes the place of situational awareness, whether carrying openly or concealed. In the wee morning hours, should I happen to be out in the first place, anyone approaching me for any reason moves me to Condition (light) Orange. And I don’t open carry, because in my state it isn’t legal.

Nevertheless, developing the habit of situational awareness is necessary, gun or no gun, to give oneself a leg up.

The best shooting is one that never happens.

tenringrob
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tenringrob

Luckily he wasn’t killed, this article appears on outdrs.net also. He never took any training, incident occurred at 2 a.m. He has no awareness at all. While open carry announces to the world you are armed, you need a little common sense and awareness to go with it. He should not get another gun until he gets a little smarter, and some training.

ray hampton
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ray hampton

I want to know , did this boy buy insurance that would cover his pistol being stolen

Old Bench Loader
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Old Bench Loader

Experience is a painful instructor. If one chooses to carry openly–it would not be a bad idea to have on you a well concealed yet adequately lethal pistol to handle this type of situation. That, my friends, is what the pros do. I believe they call it a “Back Up Gun”.

Gordon
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Gordon

According to a comment on another post about the Oregon event, the young man had just purchased the gun and didn’t have any ammo for it. This isn’t the fault of “Open Carry”, it is a case of stupidity.