There’s No Such Thing As A Law-Abiding Gun Owner?

By NRA Board Member Scott L. Bach

Leah Gunn Barrett
New Yorkers Against Gun Violence's Leah Gunn-Barrett insinuates – There’s no such thing as a law-abiding gun owner.
Scott Bach
Scott Bach

New Jersey – -( Last month I debated the head of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence in front of a class on culture wars at NYU in Manhattan.

Ironically named Leah Gunn-Barrett @gunnbarrett, the Empire State gun ban advocate presented a slick PowerPoint with charts and graphs of phony statistics supposedly showing that civilian gun ownership is responsible for all manner of murder and mayhem.

Her core message was that guns are a product intended to kill that have caused a public health crisis requiring extreme regulation; that the Second Amendment is really a collective right that belongs to the states, not individuals, and the Supreme Court’s Heller decision is a historical anomaly; and that NRA is the “gun lobby” doing the bidding of gun manufacturers for economic gain.

My core message was that guns save lives; that your personal safety is your own responsibility, since police have no legal duty to protect you; that gun laws are ignored by criminals and make the law-abiding more vulnerable.

That the same government that says it has no duty to protect you shouldn’t limit your right to protect yourself. I also made the obvious point that the Second Amendment is an individual right found in the Bill of Rights, and that NRA is the “gun RIGHTS lobby,” and speaks on behalf the millions of individuals who make it strong, not manufacturers.

The most revealing and disturbing moment of the debate came during the Q&A.

Ms. Gunn-Barrett candidly laid bare a basic premise of the gun ban mindset that usually goes unspoken: there’s no such thing as a law-abiding gun owner.

“You can be perfectly law-abiding one moment,” said Ms. Gunn-Barrett during the debate, “and then the next moment you can be a criminal and do something criminal and wrong, like shoot up a movie theater, or kill your spouse during an argument.” Regulation of people and behavior is needed, she said, “to protect us against our own stupidity and our own irrationality.”

In her warped view, we are all just ticking time bombs, waiting to go off. A law-abiding citizen could go on a murderous rampage just as easily as exceeding the speed limit. One minute we can be good, and the next moment we can become monsters.

That viewpoint explains every twisted piece of piece of gun ban legislation we’ve seen, and shows that what these extremists are targeting is legal gun ownership itself, not the criminal misuse of guns. To them, there is no such thing as a legal gun owner, so the solution is to reduce or eliminate gun ownership itself. When the anti’s speak of ending gun violence, what they really mean is ending gun ownership.

These people will not stop until there is nothing left of the Second Amendment, and the only obstacle in their way is us. Gun owners must remain eternally vigilant and prepared to answer the call to defend the one Freedom that separates us from every other nation in the history of the world.

Stand and fight!

Scott L. Bach, Esq. is a member of the NRA Board of Directors and is Executive Director and past President of the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. He is also a former member of law enforcement. Website:, Email: [email protected]

  • 222 thoughts on “There’s No Such Thing As A Law-Abiding Gun Owner?

    1. Once I originally commented I clicked the -Notify me when new comments are added- checkbox and now every time a remark is added I get four emails with the identical comment. Is there any method you possibly can remove me from that service? Thanks!

    2. What a disgusting, vile article by a piece of garbage with no morals, no conscience, no class or manners in his writing and the humanity of a terrorist. Keep up the spectacular work, Leah!

    3. I’v been expecting people to take things in there own hands with the young and old punks running rough shod
      over the civilized public!! Well done gun owners ,{ keep it up}.

      GOD save AMERICA, Our president is throwing it away

    4. Hmmmmmn according to ms. G-B I as a gun owner I am just a irresponsible gun killer in waiting….with that same mind set I along with all of the males in the world are just a bunch of “Rapists in waiting” because we have a penis.

    5. Wow, this lady is so right. The other day, I was driving along carrying my legal and licensed handgun and, I looked down at the speedometer to see that I was going FIVE miles over the speed limit. Oh my God! I could have killed someone. (I hope I don’t need to say but, SARCASM!)

    6. I am sure Mrs. Gunn-Barrett is passionate about gun control and her desire to be gun free.

      However, I suggest that she can be the first to be controlled by the government for her own safety and ours.

      “Regulation of people and behavior is needed, she said, “to protect us against our own stupidity and our own irrationality.”” Mrs G B

    7. theres no such thing as a law abiding politician, if they voted to pass any law, ordinance, infringing on the second amendment, they broke the law. the right of the” people” to keep and bear arms, the right of the” people” to be secure in their persons and effects, and the” people” vote their congressman, does the national guard have the exclusive to peaceably assemble? or be secure in their persons or effects, does the national guard elect their congressman? get the point Leah?

    8. There is only so much you can do to cure mental illness. Sometimes people are really beyond help and shouldn’t be allowed to breed or vote.

    9. Wow,
      The woman needs serious mental health help.
      She obviously is a threat to someone and should be locked up because at any moment she could go all bat-scat crazy and hurt people in her car.
      Someone Backer Act this woman immediately!

      1. So I guess Ms. Barrettt doesn’t own a gun because she fears she may become a violent psychopath. Such stupidity in the world today. Somewhere down the line maybe one of us ” gun toting maniacs” may save her life one day. Wonder what her reply would be if that happened.

    10. Someone needs to regulate her attitude and behavior before she pops a gasket, see how she likes it. Just another liberturd who thinks they know whats good for the world. Actually, what would be good for the world is her extinction

    11. The simple fact is this…..every state has a hidden agenda…..they seriously want to give 50% of their populations felonies….don’t matter what kind….that gives them the power to force 50% of the people to give up their right to own a gun….why do you think so many chickenshit laws are passed that have a penalty of a felony….

    12. I don’t really care about the UK and Australia and how many people were killed by gun violence. Our Constitution and its interpretation by the United States Supreme Court is what I care about. We even have a process in place if you want to repeal or amend the 2nd Amendment. Until that time comes, the Constitution governs this great land. You may disagree with the Heller decision but it is currently the law of the land! The “Right of the People” in the Bill of Rights has always been read to be an “individual” right. Does it make any sense to you that our forefathers would mean something different in the 2nd Amendment than they did in the other enumerated Rights ??? If the government doesn’t trust me with my gun, why should I trust them?

    13. This is pure BS put out by those who are driven more by dimwitted ideology than fact, or reality. I have been a gun owner, collector, and FFL holder most of my life, and although I have had people break into my home, my car, and my store, I have never, ever, fired a shot. Luckily, I haven’t had to, but at least I had the option if needed. In almost all of these instances it took the police nearly half an hour to arrive, then in the most dangerous instance, stood in the parking lot talking nearly five minutes before coming in. We HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES!!!! The police are not going to do it!!!!

    14. I don’t really let it bother me too much anymore, This gal is just like all the other Bloomberg style robots spouting mindless propaganda. I just make sure to be aware of events in my state legislature and what my federal reps are up to and communicate accordingly with them, also be sure to keep up my support of the NRA

    15. If they are really concerned about saving lives then we need to ban the things that kill the most people right?
      That means we need to ban automobiles, prescription drugs, and processed foods because they kill more people than anything else!!!

    16. I have a picture on my wall showing Mr. Spock speaking to Capt. Kirk on bridge of the starship Enterprise (Star Trek for the non-trekkies). Spock is saying “Logic Dictates, Captain, That if Pro-Gunners are as violent as Anti – Gunners say they are, There wouldn’t be any anti – gunners left.”

    17. As i’m sure you’ve all heard we can settle this argument in one simple statement…
      “If you want my guns, feel free to knock on the door and try and take them from me. Let’s just hope for your sake you’re better armed then you’re trying to make me.”

    18. No such thing as a rational woman either. One minute you’re a bothersome shrew being all ugly and such, and the next you’re picking a fight with the people with the guns……

    19. Liberals freak out about guns, because they are unstable irrational beings with warped minds, therefore they project that conservatives are the same. I’m all for banning leberals from owning due to mental defect.

    20. Like I have stated before when you start your argument on a faulty and completely unconstitutional premise you get a faulty argument.the basic tenant and presupposition of American Constitutional law is that all are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.Unless of course you are a firearms owner then you are guilty until proven guilty by the media or the public in general and if found no guilty in a court of law you are still found guilty by the media or any other wacko with an axe to grind.And by the way trying to derail an ongoing discussion with the old grammar nazi tactic is vary cheap and childish liberal thinking.

    21. Guns don’t kill people, people do. So are we ready to ban people, who would vote for the morons that run our countries if not people. Makes about as much sense as banning cars.
      Any one who likes the English gun laws and wants to live here, feel free to swap places with me. Also someone who is so pedantic about the use of “seen” or any other word should remember that dictionary’s are adjusted to match the spoken word, therefore if enough people wrongly use “seen” the majority will become “right” and the pedant “wrong”. Of course there is also the point that most of the users on this site speak “American” not English thereby avoiding all the silly rules.
      DaveB, Bristol, U.K.
      G.I. War Baby

    22. For all of you people wanting to change this Country (The United States of America) into England, Australia, or be like any other Country of choice… FEEL FREE TO PACK YOUR BAGS AND MOVE YOURSELVES TO THOSE COUNTRIES!!!…
      The whole reason our forefathers came here to begin with, was because they were tired of living in that manner and under those constraints. You want to live under their laws?.. then go over THERE and DO SO!.. But you won’t, because you all know this Country us where the MOST FREEDOM, MOST LIBERTY, and MOST OPPORTUNITY IS.
      To all of you who feel oppressed or cheated here, go back to what ever Country you claim to be from (even if you were born here), take your American education and American money and go b ack to your ‘homeland’ and make it better… but you won’t, because you already know where the Country with the MOST FREEDOM, LIBERTY AND OPPORTUNITY iS…
      Qiut trying ti change what makes THIS COUNTRY so great and different from all the rest… Because our laws and way of life sre just fine, Thank You… and preferred by the rest if the world. We didn’t get here by being meek, we were armed, kicked ass and took names. In a land that is SUPPOSED to be governed by the people and for the people, those people need to be armed so that they may rise upagainst those who choise to oppose our way of life and seek to do harm to any of us, our families, friends and neighbors, or businesses.
      The armed citizens will always be the TRUE first line of defense to the intruders that mean harm. The ‘bad guys’ will always be, and will always want to take from you what is yours and have ameans to do so. No ‘law’ in the world can ‘prevent’ this from happening… but an armed citizen can.

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