Misinformed Man Equates Gun Rights With Motorcycle Ownership, Gets White House Invite

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Mark Carman : Misinformed Man Equates Gun Rights With Motorcycle Ownership Gets White House Invite
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USA – On October 3 2015, Mark Carman posted a YouTube video ( youtu.be/YN6rjamk0Q0 ) in which he equated gun rights with motorcycle ownership–arguing that the licensing requirement for the latter provides some standard to guide licensing requirements for the former–and the White House responded by inviting him to come visit on November 16 and 17 2015..?!?

While there Carman is scheduled “to meet one-on-one with Valerie Jarrett, senior advisor to President Obama,” and to address Congress in a bid to secure more gun control.

According to PRWeb, Carman refers to himself as “just a guy” who owns guns but believes the actions of criminals justify expanding gun control to cover the law-abiding as well. This expansion entails requiring all would-be gun owners in every setting–retail or private–to pass the same background check that was passed by Gabby Giffords’ attacker and the Umpqua Community College attacker when they acquired their guns.

Carman admits that the shootings that get so much attention are not being committed by law-abiding citizens, then he calls for more gun control for law-abiding citizens…

He does all of this without ever mentioning two things:

  1. It is harder to find a mass public attacker who did not pass a background check than it is to find one who did.
  2. These events are not the result of gun availability but of gun free zones. We’ve always had guns–guns are part of American culture–but we haven’t always had gun free zones. The left invented gun free zones and they have proven to be nothing less than killing fields.

In addition to expanding background checks to cover all gun sales, Carman believes a licensing requirement for all gun owners should be place. And he explains his thinking on this in a way that equates the natural rights hedged in by the Second Amendment with laws that allow us to drive motorcycles.

Carman said:

What if we just took the same kind of rules it takes to get an operator’s license for a motorcycle? First of all, you have to take the written exam and you have to understand motorcycle safety. Then you have to show proficiency in the use thereof, so that you don’t kill yourself or somebody else. Now it’s legal to operate an airplane in the United States of America but you have to take a test and have specific training. Why couldn’t we do that with firearms?

He said, “It is not an infringement of one’s constitutional right under the Second Amendment if we just have some rules in place.”

Now, if you wonder how he can say these things with a straight face, just consider his view of the Second Amendment. He says it was not intended to protect an individual right, rather, it was put in place to protect a collective right framed around the militia.

Carman said, “Now whether you want to believe  it or not, the Founders. when they put that Second Amendment together, that was indeed intended for the militia.”

He explains that that basically means the Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms if you are in the “National Guard.” Carman argues this shifted when the Supreme Court applied the right to individuals, which is the very same argument The New York Times and Los Angeles Times have been making via their contentions that an individual right to keep and bear arms did not exist prior to a Supreme Court decision in 2008.

This is who the White House invited up for a meeting with Valerie Jarrett and a full-on gun control presentation to the Congress of the United States.

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    Write your congress people fast and ask them to ask this moron what type guns he owns. Not just an Ar15, but describe it, barrel length, accessories, stock etcetera, and where and whom he bought it from…. and his pistols… Bet he can’t and knows nothing about guns… Another Obama plant… Anybody know him, live in his neighborhood ???? Probably a felon who could not even own a gun… let out by one of Obama’s early release, do it again, prison programs….. OH wait, he would not qualify for that, he’s not black, ——Unless he is half black, like Obama… Read more »

    Big Bill
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    Big Bill

    The framers of the Bill of Rights were educated men, and understood their native language very well. When they wrote the Second Amendment, they had every opportunity to use the words they meant, and they used that opportunity. Thus, when they wrote, “…the right of the people…” they could have used the word “militia” instead of “people,” but they didn’t. So, to say they meant the militia instead of the people, that’s wrong. It accuses the writers (and those who debated the wording) of being stupid, which they most certainly were not. The Second Amendment was written the way it… Read more »

    carlcasino
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    carlcasino

    Some one should inform this LIV that Auto registrations is in place for one reason and one reason only. It’s called revenue enhancement. It has nothing to do with Safety. My State just abolished the Inspection Sticker as being nothing but an inconvenience to all involved. To my knowledge there has been only one recorded auto death attributed to an inspection sticker. The car fell off the lift during an oil change, I guess because the lift sticker expired? Actually the lift operator didn’t set the safeties on the auto and the lift. MY SOLUTION LETS ELIMINATE THE CAUSE–PEOPLE !

    james
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    james

    What a joke, he will address Congress.

    While there Carman is scheduled “to meet one-on-one with Valerie Jarrett,
    senior advisor to President Obama,” and to address Congress in a bid to secure more gun control.

    Jeffie
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    Jeffie

    Obama looks pathetic. Obama is really out of touch on every issue. The guy is in the white house bubble and has become a fossil extension of the white house marble. Hey lets invite joe six pack every man bubba gun owner to the White House so we can have another teachable moment on why the American people should have more restrictions on their rights! Not going to happen you can march all the turn coats you want through the White House Obama. We know the real people you are working with are the elitists like Bloomberg and Hillary who… Read more »

    teebonicus
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    teebonicus

    This guy is no spring chicken, therefore he has no excuse to be so constitutionally ignorant.

    Deduction: He is a liberal, progressive, Democrat, anti-American pinko.

    And as we all know, what they have to say is not only worthless, it is dangerous to our individual liberty per American First Principles, and should be shut down at every opportunity.

    resistance is futile
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    resistance is futile

    We have to demonstrate gun safety/operation and pass a written test in my state before we can own a gun and it hasn’t stopped any mass murders here.

    Ralph Wylie
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    Ralph Wylie

    As Barack Hussein Obama’s (Baracko Boma’s) lame duck presidency winds down we can expect to see Trayvon Martin’s parents (and I use that term loosely and generously) paraded out in public and before Congress to decry the death of Baracko’s son that he said he might have had as he professed before the investigators ink on the crime report was dry. This is all political theatrics intended to disarm the public before BHO returns to his role as “Community Organizer,” professional “Race Card Baiter” and the Manchurian Candidate fabricated by Bill Ayers.

    resistance is futile
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    resistance is futile

    I live in a state that requires a written and physical operation of a firearm to own one and it hasn’t stopped any mass murders here.

    justtryit
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    justtryit

    I’ll bet ya’ it’s Oslamajama’s TWINKIE!!!

    Richard
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    Richard

    Funny. I’ve never seen the right to ride a motorcycle mentioned in the Bill of Rights……..

    munchie
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    munchie

    Just another douchebag in an ever increasing number of them in the general public and on college campuses. It’s like that group “sportsmen for Obama” in 2008…a made up group of douchebags.

    SuperG
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    SuperG

    He’s just what the White House needed, a middle aged, Caucasian, gun control idiot who has no understanding of the Constitution, or what the Supreme Court has already said about the Second Amendment. God forbid that the President focus on mental health, but he’s already dismissed that by citing the actions of other countries…who have never had the degree of freedom that we enjoy.

    Kevin
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    Kevin

    Al Friend you hit the nail on the head! My motorcycle, motor vehicle, for that matter public service license lets me drive anywhere in the free world! Oh yea free world! I want to ride my motorcycle with my Sig either concealed or not, (I don’t have a problem with concealed) on my hip. Pick up my children at school, visit my daughter on her college campus in Commichusetts, and anywhere else I need to or want to travel! This guy is a weenie and I would love to see his “gun” collection. Paint ball doesn’t count!

    Saddletramp
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    Saddletramp

    The Second Amendment came to be on 15 Dec 1791. At that time the militia was ” every able bodied man “. That description fits an individual, not a collective group

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    Evidently the “reply” button to a comment isn’t working. My comments were to Al Friend.

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    I hate spell check— “your”

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    Excellent reply, couldn’t have said it better myself….well, maybe I could have. Now, you know you’re local newspaper? Start writing to the editor.

    RRL
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    RRL

    Just another NUT case in Washington ….. so whats new ? Best case here is to back our NRA and the GUN OWNERS of AMERICA along with the great folks who get this information out into the public the Shooting Sports Foundation …….. think about it … if you didn’t hear about this NUT CASE from them you never would, not one other news paper would print this …. CARMAN crawl back into your cave…….. GO HOME !

    2nd Amender
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    2nd Amender

    I had my “operator’s permit” granted by US Army training, and then got my proficiency exam and passing grade back in 1968 and ’69 saving with A co. 28th Inf., First Infantry Division, Republic of South Vietnam, MOS 11b10.

    Ya know where this guy carman can put his motorcycle, don’t you? And it looks like it’ll fit just fine!

    Bob110
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    Bob110

    It does not matter that he is as stupid as an ox, if he repeats a lie, he is still a liar. If his lies lead to the erosion of our freedoms, he is still a traitor.

    JRA
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    JRA

    So, how does Carman know what the founding fathers meant by the 2nd Amendment? Did he talk to them personally? Does he have a time machine?
    He’s another idiot that falls for the liberal BS. Obama thinks because Carman (says) he is “just a guy” and that he owns guns that Carman is an expert on gun control. Two idiots.

    durabo
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    durabo

    I’m sure Comrade Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s fellow Islamist, will be pulling Carman’s puppet strings as she pulls Obama’s.

    Jesse Scott
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    Jesse Scott

    This idiot does NOT speak for me. He will be, however, a useful idiot for obammy.

    Herb
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    Herb

    Take comfort in the knowledge these are the same people that have been running the country for the past seven years. Also take comfort in the knowledge there are millions more misinformed and ignorant people who will vote for socialist democrats in the next election. If they win, things will get worse while the “special” socialist liars, cheats and traitors will get richer – including the Clintons and obamas.

    AL Friend
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    AL Friend

    So let’s have one of you news reporters do a FOIA request to see how many guns he actually owns? Plus, I can reverse it on him really quickly. 1. Once I have my motorcycle license, I can drive on any road in any state in the US unabated. I want to carry my gun in the same fashion. 2. When I am driving my motorcycle, I can drive on any road in the U.S. ANY ROAD! There are no motorcycle free roads, no lack of motorcycles on college campuses, etc. Guns should be treated the same way. OOPS! This… Read more »

    LiftNw8
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    LiftNw8

    And I bet he owns and rides a motorcycle too…

    What a moron, gun owners don’t ask for more gun control, as if that ain’t the dumbest thing ever, I myself would prefer more criminal control, that is what needs to happen!!!!

    D. Murphy
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    D. Murphy

    Imagine if there is a license/test requirement to own a gun, the government would make it so hard an convaluted that no one could pass it. Thus there will be total gun control.

    CRTea
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    CRTea

    Let’s skip all the Miller / Heller, double comma drafted version / single comma ratified version, etc, noise. It feeds the communists and confuses the dim. Here’s a very simple guide for detecting and instructing idiots and gun-grabbing liars: When the Constitution means the National Government (at the national level), it says so. When it means The States (at the state level), it says so. When it means The People (at the individual level), it Says So. Guess which one the Second Amendment says? People. Yep, good guess.. That’s how it’s formatted. By design. For the purpose of Pellucid Clarity.… Read more »

    TRUTH BE TOLD
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    TRUTH BE TOLD

    Started out sayin one thing and changed midstream…. they think “the left” that if the guy owns guns then we will hear him out……. idiots…. like he’s one of our own kind…..

    TRUTH BE TOLD
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    TRUTH BE TOLD

    Funny how these type people are Always “say” their gun owners….. like everything is cool then…..

    TRUTH BE TOLD
    Guest
    TRUTH BE TOLD

    I bet there’s a TWINKIE hiding in his hand……