Oregon Stand Off Situation Report January 28th 2016

By Samuel Culper

Oregon Stand Off
Oregon Stand Off
Forward Observer Magazine
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USA –  -(Ammoland.com)- Situation Report (SITREP) – 0400L 28 JAN 16

It’s been a very long 36 hours since yesterday’s events began unfolding. Avoidable tragedy struck Tuesday afternoon when LaVoy Finicum was shot and killed. Since then, there have been at least four different accounts of what happened. We’ve seen wild and inaccurate speculation about what’s going on at the Refuge, which has been contradictory to on the ground reporting.

In these times, we need to focus on discerning facts from opinions, and separate what’s more likely to be true from what’s less likely to be true through a structured process. What follows is my personal account of following the situation, including talks with sources on the ground and on conference calls with Sergeant Major Joseph Santoro (U.S.A., Ret.), Stewart Rhodes, State Representative Matthew Shea (R-WA), Jason Van Tatenhove, and others.

Here’s what we know.

– Just before 5:00 pm local on Tuesday, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Oregon State Police (OSP) made a felony stop on two vehicles carrying Ammon Bundy and six other individuals headed to a community meeting in John Day, Oregon, in neighboring Grant County. During the stop, which occurred on land that the federal government controls just inside the Malheur National Forest, law enforcement personnel fired shots, wounding Ryan Payne and killing LaVoy Finicum. Here’s a breakdown of the four known accounts.

  • Ammon Bundy allegedly called his wife to tell her that LaVoy Finicum was unarmed and had his hands up when shot and killed. Ammon received this account second-hand and was passing on what he was told. We know that the altercation with LaVoy occurred outside the line of sight of Ammon Bundy.
  • Victoria Sharpe was allegedly in LaVoy’s vehicle during the shooting, and she claims that around 120 rounds were fired during the altercation, and that LaVoy had his hands up while walking towards FBI and OSP officers. FBI and OSP officers, according to Victoria Sharpe’s account, shot Lavoy and continued to shoot him after he fell down.
  • Mark McConnell’s account draws heavily on the alleged first-hand accounts of Shawna Cox and Ryan Payne. Mark’s statement claims that LaVoy drove through the felony stop further north up the road. According to Mark, Shawna Cox continues the story she related to him, saying that they drove towards the FBI-OSP road block, where LaVoy then attempted to drive around the road block. After the truck got stuck, LaVoy exited the vehicle and charged law enforcement personnel. Mark cites the stories of Shawna Cox and Ryan Payne that LaVoy was not on his knees and was not cooperative when he was killed.
  • Finally, according to a joint FBI-OSP statement published Wednesday morning, three shots were fired during the stop. It provides no additional information about the altercation.
  • (Analyst Comment: Each of the three eye witness accounts agree that LaVoy drove his truck past the felony stop, towards the road block. Each of the three eye witness accounts agree that LaVoy had his hands up in the air, and two claim that he was walking towards FBI and OSP personnel when shot and killed. From there, the eye witness accounts get very contradictory. The accounts of Shawna Cox and Ryan Payne, according to Mark McConnell, support the limited information provided by the FBI-OSP statement. The account of Victoria Sharpe is the outlier. Two things are sure for me: there was no “shoot out” as the media has reported. According to each of the eye witness statements above, no possibility exists that LaVoy Finicum fired at police. After surveying three weeks of his video statements about the potential for his death, and speaking with him in person a little over a week ago, I’m more inclined to believe that LaVoy was shot on his feet than on his knees. “I’m not going to end up in prison. I would rather die than be caged. And I’ve lived a good life,” he told reporters during the first week of the occupation. He went on record numerous times later saying, effectively, that he was going to walk away after the mission was accomplished or that he was going to die trying. If we’re to believe LaVoy’s conviction that he would have rather died than go to prison, then in the face of overwhelming odds that he would be arrested, we must accept the possibility that he died for the cause. If Shawna and Ryan’s accounts, as told by Mark McConnell are accurate, then he was walking towards police when he was shot. That increases the likelihood of a wrongful death scenario, and gives no credence to the claim that he was executed while on his knees. Additionally, we need to ask why non-lethal/less-lethal means weren’t used in order to subdue LaVoy, especially if his hands remained up.)

– After the felony stop, Sergeant Major Joseph Santoro (U.S.A., Ret.) began communicating with FBI contacts. A top priority for SGM Santoro, acting in coordination with Pacific Patriots Network, Oath Keepers National, Stewart Rhodes, State Representative Matthew Shea (R-WA) from the Coalition of Western States (C.O.W.S.) and a Coalition representative at the Refuge, was to work with the FBI in order to give enough time for women and children at the Refuge to leave. He repeatedly expressed his concern that an FBI action on the compound would result in further loss of life, including the potential for harm to women and children. SGM Santoro convinced his FBI contacts to delay any action on the Refuge, while a C.O.W.S. representative at the Refuge worked to get the women and children packed up to leave. Through numerous phone calls and face to face coaxing, a majority of the occupiers agreed to leave. Additionally, a YouTube video posted by David Fry early Thursday morning confirms that conditions at the Refuge were ‘chaotic’ as occupiers packed up to leave as quickly as possible.

– The mission of the Pacific Patriots Network has been to prevent another Waco, where federal agents mass murder American citizens during an assault on a compound.  That mission has so far been accomplished.

– According to sources at the Refuge, there weren’t enough vehicles to transport everyone who wanted to leave the Refuge. SGM Santoro relayed that to the FBI, and the FBI contacts instructed those without a vehicle to drive a Bureau of Land Management (BLM) vehicle parked at the Refuge into Burns and park it at a location where it would later be picked up by BLM officials.

– According to sources at the Refuge, Jason Patrick, who decided to stay, became angry that most occupiers were leaving, and refused to move a vehicle so that they could leave the Refuge Headquarters. Those leaving were forced to drive through private property in order get back to a highway, where they began their trip back into Burns, and then home.

– At approximately 0200L on the morning of 27 January, sources in contact with the FBI claimed that the remaining occupiers were given until 0400L to vacate, implying that action might be taken to remove them if they stayed past the deadline. At 0400L, no action was taken, and as of 0100L on Thursday, 28 January, no direct action has been taken at the Refuge.

– On Wednesday afternoon, Duane Ehmer, the cowboy who infamously rode his horse while hoisting an American flag, was arrested by the FBI.

– On Wednesday evening, negotiations with Jason Patrick were finally successful and he agreed to leave the refuge. According to sources familiar with the story, the FBI told Jason Patrick that he was free to leave, however, he would be arrested if he had an outstanding warrant. After walking seven miles out of the Refuge to the FBI checkpoint to be picked up, he was arrested by law enforcement at 1910L due to an outstanding warrant. (Analyst Comment: Jason Patrick was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t. Being one of the more ardent protesters at the Refuge, the FBI likely considered him to be one of the top instigators, especially after he decided to stay as most others left.)

– A video posted to YouTube early Thursday morning indicates that five occupiers remain at the Refuge. In the video, David Fry says they’re refusing to leave because one individual has an outstanding warrant and will be arrested. They told their FBI negotiator that they would all leave if his warrant is revoked. No further information is available.

– There are efforts underway to organize large gatherings in Salem, Oregon to protest the killing of LaVoy Finicum in front of the governor’s office and another building. There’s also a protest being scheduled in Eugene.  Follow the Pacific Patriots Network for additional and up to date information.

Photo via Harney County Mall Cops

UPDATE FBI Overhead Surveillance Video Released:

Photo via Harney County Mall Cops

About Samuel Culper:

Samuel Culper is the executive editor of Forward Observer Magazine. He was an Army and contract Intelligence analyst with multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He now splits his time between the American Redoubt and the Deep South.

About Forward Observer Magazine:

Former members of the U.S. Special Operations and Intelligence communities write about intelligence, security and tactical skills for the American preparedness community. We are Veterans. Patriots. Preppers. Visit: www.readfomag.com

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I watched the video…if his hands went to his abdomen/waist area “because” of the Feds shots fired, I’d say the Feds are guilty of murder. That will have to be proven in court first though. It does look like he’s reaching in pain. And, if that’s true, it’s no wonder why the remaining people in the vehicle don’t come out right away. They are afraid of being shot also. My 2 cents.


Opinion are like asshole everyone has one I also am Honorably discharge Nam vet. You stated that the wildlife refuge was actually close That these men brandishing weapons Read the law open carry is legal in Oregon, So your brandishing is another opinion These people didn’t bother anyone. Even the cases in town which was 30 miles away the fire chief found out those men were actually FBI undercover They were tired of the government try to seize land so they can sell the mineral rights using intimidation extortion and sometimes force When the BLM which has no right to… Read more »

Gerald Brookman

To RDNK: Well stated. I agree. To mck68: You state that “occupy wall street protesters [committed] assaults, thefts, and vandalism”. If this is the case, they should have been arrested and prosecuted and if found guilty, punished to the full extent of the law. Perhaps these things happened, but if so they escaped my attention at the time. You state that the people who have been illegally occupying the Malheur Wildlife Refuge were “camp[ing] out in a remote wildlife refuge in the off season.” They were not “camping out”, they had illegally seized and were occupying Federal Property while brandishing… Read more »


Tarp man got what’s coming! Ha, ha


Watch the Video


After watching BOTH helocopters videos as well as a video from the compound where an individual asks for people to sign TALENT RELEASES I can only come up with two conclusions One. Lavoy Finicum my friend was assassinated as the videos clearly prove he was shot in the abdomen BEFORE supposedly “going for a weapon” when he was actually grabbing his wounds while he turned away stumbling from the first shooter only to be shot in the head by the second shooter. Second. It appears that this peaceful protest has been turned into a catalyzing event by the US Government… Read more »


Well said. And if they were concerned for the women and children they shouldn’t have put them in that situation. And why is everyone in a race to report the wrong information, just like when the witnesses said Michael Brown in Ferguson was complying to commands with his hands up. I’m so tired of this crap.


What bothers me most about the treatment of the people in this protest is the blatant hypocrisy. Occupy Wallstreet, Black Lives Matter, Ferguson, etc. I did not hear governors calling for the police to remove those protestors with any means necessary.

Occupy Wallstreet protestors camped out in a city park for months during the height of the tourist season. Assaults, theft, and vandalism by the protestors were a regular occurrence.

Some white guys camp out in a remote wildlife refuge in the off season and the media and political left want their heads on a platter.


I have concluded that Bundy and his cohorts are all about three shy of a six pack. There are three of four people still in the compound refusing to leave until they are guaranteed by the Feds that they won’t be arrested or charged with any crime ! They are saying they just want to go home to their wives ! Like nothing at all has happened since 2 Jan.’16 ! Do you believe this ? The part of this entire situation that infuriates me the most is Bundy and his group of morons started this thing under the guise… Read more »