Gun Owners It Should Be All Or Nothing

By M.K. Wingate on Man Talk Blog

Charlton Heston
Actor Charlton Heston at the Civil Rights March in Washington, D.C. in August 1963, later he became the President of the National Rifle Association and was a proud firearm owner of guns of all types, he cared about freedom!. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
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Colorado –-(Ammoland.com)- First let’s remind anyone reading this blog that this blog is for MEN!

Now that does NOT mean guys who happen to male by birth–it means men who are men (like the stereotyped John Wayne or Charlton Heston were).

We are talking about men who can smoke a cigar in their house without fearing the wife (but maybe doing it next to an open door or window–the polite thing to do-regardless) this is not about machismo.

We say these things because we are now a chickafied nation or possibly a cowardly nation. Look around, how many of you have contacted your city, state, or national elected representatives or even written a letter to the editor of your local paper to voice your opinion or have spoken at a city council meeting?

This cowardliness has not changed much since our founding. Back when “we” were fighting in the War of Independence about 30 percent of our population sided with the king(aka Democrats), 40 percent were neutral undecided (called independents nowadays) and the last 30 percent wanted independence from the king. These are much the same numbers we have in our divided country currently regarding political parties.

Of the last group, those who actually took up arms to fight for independence from the king made up only about 3 percent of the population. Think about that first. They are known as 3-percenters in today’s parlance (we are NOT talking of the current militia type groups in our country who have adopted that name or motto in support of their organizations), we in this post refer only those who fought in the War of Independence.

National Rifle Association

What might this have to do with the National Rifle Association? Actually a lot. The NRA came about in 1871. At that time military men in our country realized that even though huge numbers of men were killed and wounded in the Civil War (mass gunfire) that actual marksmanship was really lacking.They wanted those in and out of the military to learn to shoot better in the event of further foreign or domestic conflicts.

So they formed the NRA to teach better marksmanship to the official military and civilians in the event a militia had to be formed from the citizenry.

This evolved into what the NRA is today. After teaching combat shooting through the Spanish American War, WWI, WWII and the Korean war and establishing to this day law enforcement firearm use and training standards the NRA is now best known for helping to influence laws and opinions to protect the Constitution and Second Amendment in particular since it is only guns that protect our freedoms.

The NRA is a freedom advocating, protecting and preserving organization.

However, the NRA has it’s sahre of segregated firearm interest individuals. For example many (again, many, not all) shotgun shooters don’t like pistol shooters, rifle shooters or black guns. Many pistol shooters don’t like black guns, shotguns, or rifles and many rifle shooters don’t like black guns, pistols or shot guns. Then many folks who shoot only small rifles like the.22 don’t like any or some of the previous groups. It’s just nuts and true!

What all these NRA members don’t realize is that the anti-Second Amendment anti-Constitution people both in and out of government don’t want ANY gun in a citizen’s hands–except theirs.

These dangerous politicians and their sponsors want control and they want all the guns gone ASAP so control is easier for their citizen friendly social programs and benevolent management to be implemented. So by their thinking all gun owners and the NRA should shut up and embrace the love!

FUDDS

Fudds
Fudds

I feel NRA competitors are some of the worse! As a competitor I have heard folks in various NRA competitions say that those semi-automatic, so called “assault rifles” should be banned.

BUT WHY WOULD SHOOTERS SAY THIS? The majority of firearm competitions in our country and memberships on Olympic and Palma teams (for example) came from NRA competitions.

In order to compete in most competitions in the U.S. you must be an NRA member regardless of your feelings about firearms in general or the Bill of Rights.

So many NRA competitors could care less about the NRA or its mission, it is just access into various firearm competitions.

These are the facts-like them or not! Yes we know, a bunch of you reading this are competitors and support the NRA and its mission (like I do), but there are more than you can imagine who don’t.

It is the old take his stuff not mine thinking. These take his not mine idiots don’t see the big picture, they only care about their segment of the shooting sports and feel the other guy is wrong. Sure the majority of NRA members care about all guns and our Constitution, but a percentage of misinformed NRA members do NOT think there is a place for an AR-15 semi-automatic type of rifle in the hands of citizens.

Another little unknown “factoid.” Of its 5 1/2 million members the NRA has about 2 1/2 million eligible voting members in its ranks. Yet when all of these people get ballots for the NRA Board of Director elections, those who vote and return the ballot are well under 90,000!

So guys, man up, remember it is all guns and all freedoms that are now under assault. The reason the Second Amendment and the Bill of Rights exists in the first place was and still is for the exclusive protection of INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN’S rights and freedoms from both foreign invasion and a corrupt or oppressive domestic government.

The Bill of Rights

The Bill of Rights (first ten amendments) has NOTHING to do in any way, shape or form with assigning or affirming ANY power, privileges or rights to the government, the Constitution itself does that!

The Bill of Rights is our defined individual protection from our own government, it is just that simple and the Founding Fathers understood this and fought and died for that principal and that is why they wrote the damn thing in the first place.

The Founders realized that the Constitution they just finished outlined the rules for government but did not outline citizens specific rights or protection FROM the government, the very government they just established. So they wrote the Bill of Rights to protect us individual citizens from that very government. Left wingers, socialists, liberals, communists and those in control of a particular major political party that ascribes to those views will try to say otherwise but the truth is right there, written in the Constitution.

The second sentence of the second paragraph of OUR Declaration Of Independence gives the right of the people to rise up and abolish a hostile hostile government and even implies by the wording a duty to do so.

No we are NOT calling for a revolution or anything like that, but we are asking the 50 million+ wrong headed gun owners out here in citizenville to get their heads out of their asses, smell the coffee and realize the reason for he Second Amendment and the Bill of Rights in the first place.

And while I have been doing a little NRA chops busting here, you should buy into the notion of joining the NRA, it is still the largest and most influential organization protecting the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment. The latter which by definition, also protects the remaining 9 original amendments in the Bill of Rights,,,,,and your ass!

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Witold Pilecki
Witold Pilecki
5 years ago

My fire chief is one of those Fudds. He hunts whitetail with a bolt action .308 and feels that is all the gun anyone ever needs for anything. In fact, one of his arguments always starts with, “Nobody needs a ________……..!!!” What he does is project his needs onto others, as if he is the arbiter of what others needs are, and is more than happy to let the government enforce such nonsense. Several of us have tried to talk sense to him, about the anti-gun zealots coming for his gun after they try to take ours away to no… Read more »

John
John
5 years ago

I went to mantalkblog.com and read through a bunch of their stuff–got to say, it is fun and informative and all things for men.

Lou
Lou
5 years ago

Not the best written article ever on Ammoland. As for Heston,… He had a huge gun collection at his Beverly Hills estate. It’s been a long time, but I seem to remember that he had registered class 3 firearms in his collection. Your point about the divisiveness between Gun Owners with differing interests and prejudices against differing interests is spot on. I’ve encountered it countless times. I can’t count all the times I’ve taken someone aside and reiterated that we all have the right to like, what we like, even it they don’t like it. There is, I think, some… Read more »

Carl
Carl
5 years ago

All that is necessary is to re-insert Reading Comprehension to the Political Discussion. I have been watching and listening to the discussion and the one thing I hear repeatedly is ” This is the way a DEMOCRACY Works” and not one so called Journalist has called out this fallacy. Is that because a) they are uninformed b) are afraid to question the misstatement c) The Constitutional Republic was dissolved without firing a shot. or d) the worst possible scenario academia has won in the competition of dumbing down our citizens to realize being a SUBJECT is okay for everybody but… Read more »

5WarVeteran
5WarVeteran
5 years ago

“Shall not be infringed” Licenses and taxes and requirements for permits are infringement. If a crime is committed with a weapon then those rights are willfully given away through breaking the law. If a religion requires Jihad then that religion gives away it’s right. No law that bans gun ownership out right is legal. No law that prevents an owner from self preservation is legal. No law that interferes with ones inalienable rights from birth is legal unless one forfeits that right by committing crime. The Declaration of Independence says, “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from… Read more »

B.Zerker
B.Zerker
5 years ago

The Bill of Rights IS a list of items that the Federal Government is FORBIDDEN to infringe upon. And because Article VI, Clause 2, (the Supremacy Clause) guarantees that NO subservient federal or state statutes, codes, regulations, et. all. can supersede its guarantees, they are ABSOLUTE. Because the anti-federalist correctly understood that central governments often grow into tyrannical bodies, and that they had no reason to believe that the new government that they were forming would not eventually do the same, the U.S. Constitution could NOT have been ratified without the inclusion of a list of unalienable rights that would… Read more »

john
john
5 years ago

Lou, you are just an anti gun troll. You looked at the whole blog and then attack a photograph and the caption to show some type of crapola attack against Heston and his role with the NRA as president with the intent of affecting the whole posting. I doubt, based on your ” very specific and highly detailed “information” of why Heston was so “evil” you are an anti-gun supporter and against the meaning as shown in the blog of the Second Amendment. What you show is a good knowledge of what socialists/communists have done for years-attack a bit to… Read more »

MrApple
MrApple
5 years ago

The Fudds seem to completely miss the point that once the super evil “assault rifles” are all gone and more people are using hunting style firearms that their scoped bolt action hunting rifle will quickly become an evil sniper rifle that needs to be banned as well.

Darren
Darren
5 years ago

The NRA doesn’t get the big picture. To be pro-freedom one must also be in favor of disarming the govt, not improving govt thugs’ marksmanship. They advocate police power to fight the war on drugs, police power to secure the borders, and military power to fight Islam overseas. In other words, they advocate for the very things that are destroying our liberties. The NRA is wholly behind the powerful government that we have to just trust and hope will not oppress us. A govt that doesn’t have the power to oppress (as in take our guns) won’t. A govt with… Read more »

Clark Kent
Clark Kent
5 years ago
Reply to  Darren

So we should abolish the police? So who will respond to investigate the accident when a drunk driver T-bones your car and you are critically injured? Who would you have show up when your home is burglarized? Your wife raped? Who will tell the party next door to pipe down because you can’t get any sleep? THINK before you post, Darren. By the way, NO POLICE OFFICER WILL EVER WORK WITHOUT A SIDEARM.

Anonymous1984
Anonymous1984
5 years ago

If you truly believe in the 2A there is no limit. No bogus scapegoat classes of people to prohibit or weapons platforms to buy. The NRA is s joke and untrustworthy like the Republicans only GOA is the only no compromise gun lobby that is making actual progress.

Jack
Jack
5 years ago

Ahhh, just the kind of anti-gun “support” sniveling indicated in this post by mantalkblog.com. Heston was talking about illegal full auto AKs and “machine guns that were not NFA registered (as his were). He was one of the strongest and most outspoken about gun rights presidents in the National Rifle Association’s history. I doubt strongly if the NRA would have had him in that position if he wee an “elitist” or advocated what you took out of context to say. Yikes, there are trolls everywhere.

Lou
Lou
5 years ago
Reply to  Jack

Jack, You are INCORRECT. I saw the show when it aired and Heston’s position WAS later clarified and had nothing to do with NFA registered or not registered as you have made up. Heston did promote gun ownership and most of what he did was positive BUT that does not erase what he stated. As far as your comment that the NRA would not have hired him unless he was “outspoken about gun rights”, you obviously do not remember what the NRA was doing in the early 1990s when they were advocating compromises which almost killed the NRA and launched… Read more »

DrSique
DrSique
5 years ago
Reply to  Lou

I am not aware of the interview you have mentioned BUT Heston stood in the fire for all freedoms, not just for firearms ownership. The article above has a photo of him when he marched in the ’60s civil rights movement. It was his support of 2A Rights that gained him the ire of gun grabbing leftists like George Clooney, however. Upon hearing of Heston being afflicted with Alzheimers, Clooney said that he deserved it for being the president of the NRA. This proved two things, that liberals like Clooney are the most vile hateful pseudo-compassionate scum and that Heston… Read more »

Lou
Lou
5 years ago

True, Charlton Heston was an “owner of guns of all types” BUT he had an elitist attitude. Mr. Heston appeared on the Charles Grodin Show in 1989 after the Patrick Purdey shooting in Stockton, CA and after President George Bush 1st directed ATF to stop all imports of “assault weapons” until Congress could permanently ban imports of semi-auto “assault weapons” with law which they did. When Mr. Heston was asked by Grodin about what guns SHOULD be banned from civilian ownership, Heston responded with – I am talking about the AK-47 and machine-guns. You may have seen Heston’s extensive collection… Read more »