California Bill Will Eliminate Most Gun Dealers From the State

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California Bill Will Eliminate Most Gun Dealers From the State
Firearms Policy Coalition
Firearms Policy Coalition

SACRAMENTO – -(Ammoland.com)-  AB 2459 is the scariest bill we have seen all year, and that's not a fact to be taken lightly as there are already bills to ban most semi-auto rifles, ration your gun purchases, and ban all magazines that could hold more than 10 rounds at one point in time.

AB 2459, authored by Kevin McCarty (D-Sacramento), could wipe out every single gun dealer in the state of California.

In essence, if this bill passes, they may not ever have to pass another anti-gun bill again. You simply won't be able to legally buy another gun in California.

STOP THE LARGEST INFRINGEMENT EVER OF OUR RIGHTS

To start, AB 2459 will ban all home FFL dealers. There are hundreds of them in the state, and they may serve areas where a traditional brick and mortar store wouldn't prosper.

Rural residents would be denied their right to defend themselves. They could not legally purchase a firearm unless they drove hours to a larger population area.

For traditional gun stores, the remaining two portions of the bill could drive them out of business.

  • AB 2459 would then force all gun dealers to video record all areas of their store wherever firearms or ammunition are stored, displayed, carried, handled, sold, or transferred, including, but not limited to, counters, safes, vaults, cabinets, shelves, cases, and entryways.
  • Adding to the Orwellian-ness, gun dealers will have to spend thousands of dollars on storing the high-quality data for up to 10 years on-site, turning each gun store that can afford it into a high capacity hard drive that most tech firms would be jealous of.

Assuming a gun dealer is still in business after the first two requirements, the last one will do them in.

  • AB 2459 mandates a first in the world form of insurance– an unobtainable policy that covers the criminal acts of second, third and fourth parties using a firearm or ammunition from the store in question, even if the retailer is in fact the victim of the crime or if the gun or ammo was stolen from the store.

Although it may sound like the anti-gunners' fantasy bill that will never become reality, it is literally being lobbied in the State Capitol right now. They are seriously pushing for it.

Please sign our petition to STOP AB 2459 and forward this article to your friends and family so they can help beat this bill back.

For Liberty,

Richard Thomson

 

About Firearms Policy Coalition

Firearms Policy Coalition (firearmspolicy.org) is a grassroots 501(c)4 nonprofit public benefit organization. FPC’s mission is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, especially the fundamental, individual Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

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    Joel williams
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    Joel williams

    gun control is like taking away automobiles from sober people to stop drunk driving.

    robert cosenza
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    robert cosenza

    goggle this no joke,its called the{dick act of 1902}-gun control forbidden. the dick act of 1902 also known as the efficiency of militia bill h.r. 11654 of june 28,1902 invalidates all so-called gun control laws.and pass it around to everyone you know

    JJ
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    JJ

    Strange. Noone in today’s United States actually believes in a “government should own everything in sight” agenda, and yet the conspiracy nuts still pedal their wacky accusations about certain people having “isms” that begin with a “c” or a “m”.

    robert
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    robert

    There are millions of people believe the government should own or control everything of value in this country. You don’t know what you are talking about. You need to study the Constitution to see how much the Federal and States governments have grown in the last one hundred and forty years: It didn’t get this way without a lot of people not wanting it and continuing to want it.

    Dr Dave
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    Dr Dave

    The solution is VERY simple. It is called get others to vote. We don’t need to kick out people who think that guns should be eliminated they are actually in the total minority of the population. What we need is to wake up GOPs and get them to actually vote. In the last 2 POTUS election less then 40% of the eligible voters actually voted. That is plus all the ones who never registered to vote. So of the registered voters 40% cast a ballot add to that the number of non-registered voters and there is PLENTY of votes to… Read more »

    Heywood Jablowmey
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    Heywood Jablowmey

    Phuck California.

    And spare us the whining from Californians. You asshats have failed to boot the communists and traitors running your state. If it only affected California we would just point at you and laugh, but those scum are trying to infringe our right out here in America too.

    DaveW
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    DaveW

    Right back atcha. If you don’t care what is happening to us, why should we care about you? Like the old saying, ‘first they came for the Jews… and I was silent. Then they came for the Gypsies… and I was silent. Then they came for the Catholics… and I was silent. Now there is no one left to speak for me.’

    Now, please explain how we should have kicked those commies out? A revolt ala Fidel Castro? We tried to fight the hoards of “undesirable” people moving here, but the feds shut that down.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    The folks in Ca that believe in old fashion values like pulling your own weight, helping your neighbors, and only voting once could not possibly have booted the communists and traitors out because too many communists, illegal aliens, dead people, and others not eligible to vote were voting in the elections, and still do. Now, what happened in Ca is politics as usual all over the United States. I could give many examples, but you all have heard about it already.

    Mikial
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    Mikial

    All good people should move out of California and leave it to the criminals and the liberal scum who think their pathetic ideals are wise. Period.

    DaveW
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    DaveW

    Would you say that to the rest of the far left leaning states? How about your state? Would you say that when the progressive agenda has swept the nation? I hope not. I hope you would say it’s time to stand and fight.

    Heywood Jablowmey
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    Heywood Jablowmey

    So when are you going to FIGHT?

    How much sh*t are you going to swallow before you grow a backbone?

    DaveW
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    DaveW

    I fight. I vote. I support every organization which fights against the tide. I write in protest. I educate anyone who will listen (and have even had some converts). For a 100% disabled veteran of Vietnam, I do everything I possibly can. And I have no plans to run to another state, and more than I have plans to run to another country. Unlike Washington DC, the Dems run this state, although we did succeed in breaking their super majority status in the state legislature. Unlike DC, our conservatives don’t simply cave in. They continue to fight the Dems. Rarely… Read more »

    Dr Dave
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    Dr Dave

    There is great value to DW’s words. It STARTS in CA but then moves east to CT NJ and then NY. The very liberal Californians start the snow ball and once packed tightly and test marketed then other states follow in suit. It only takes a few months to prove an idea especially with the ability to spin data and statistics that politicians are SO good at doing that before we know it 8 or 10 states follow thru. Do we really expect people to pick up and move taking all their possessions and family with them in support of… Read more »

    Michael Hayes
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    Michael Hayes

    Time to build that wall around Kaliphonie. Seems the place gets crazier by the day.

    Bill wimpney chilliwack bc can..
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    Bill wimpney chilliwack bc can..

    The first step in problem solving is define the problem. Don’t let these legislators fool you into believing that they are scared of guns and then waste your time trying to convince them that it’s not the fault of the gun they are not that stupid. the real source of their fear is the kind of reaction citizens are likely to demonstrate when they find what these jerks really up to. We all want to have government with checks and balances in place to protect us. This suggests that government could possibly be self auditing. Unfortunately that’s like having crooks… Read more »

    robert
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    robert

    California will create a monster of a black market, run by the Mexican cartels who will sell any kid of military weapon to anyone with the money. If they think the drug wars are bad wait till the see what a weapons based war will be like.

    USPatriotOne
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    USPatriotOne

    All this is right out of the Communist Manifesto…Just go back and look at the USSR history in 1917…they took all the Guns and then Murdered 80 Million People..!!! That’s the bigger picture people and the real reason why they want our Guns! Commies all of them in California/Congress/WH..!!!

    Geronimo's LastStand
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    Geronimo's LastStand

    In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control, between 1929 and 1953 20 million political dissidents were killed. In 1935 Germany established gun control and begin to disarm its people. Between 1933 and 1945, 13 million Jews and others were killed. In 1935 China established gun control and began to disarm its people. between 1948 and 1952, 20 million political dissidents in China were killed. In 1970 Uganda established gun control and began to disarm its people, between 1971 and 1979, 300,000 Christians were killed. In 1956 Cambodia established gun control and began to disarm its people, between 1975 and… Read more »

    Lt.4545
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    Lt.4545

    Ok Wally and San Diego we’ll barely I mean just barely give you the benefit of a doubt. what the hell is taking so long ! Remember this is still America dump the satan worshipping devilites anti- American communist left. It should be obvious to anyone awake at all that they have abandoned America for a self serving totalitarian communist dream of power in the mean time stop exporting these parasitic anti Americans to our western states or any others ;they are a cancer that must be destroyed!! We have cancelled vacations to calinfierno (ask for translation)the last two summers… Read more »

    JJ
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    JJ

    Communism in the 20th century was government ownership of almost everything. In 21st-Century America, there are virtually no true communists anymore.

    F
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    F

    Be careful in using the “c” word.

    JVJ
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    JVJ

    I stand by what I said.

    JVJ
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    JVJ

    Affirmative

    JJ
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    JJ

    Gotta have some education

    Rick
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    Rick

    This is truly sickening. My 2 cents are this would be a gate to serializing ammo cases and rounds. Also give the ability to do house to house searches and ceaures. This would lead to jailing people under suspicion and violating a ridiculously written law such as your magazine is within reach of the firearm ect. The insurance will never exist so firearm sales will become illegal. It’s obvious Obama has opened this gate and people didn’t listen when warned. Hilary will only make it solidified as they just chop the bill up and add it to parts of other… Read more »

    Miss 2nd amendment
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    Miss 2nd amendment

    maybe all of you good patriot minded people should leave California for just a few years, let all the illegals move in and the state will go bankrupt the government will collapse and you good guys can move back in, set up a new government the way you want it to be, the way it SHOULD be. Get rid of the Finestines and the Boxers , and yes…. even moondog himself. ooorah! God bless Amerika

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    When the moslem take over of California happens, all that gun control and minorities being in power will all go away. No one will think a thing is wrong with a gun store on every corner, having an RPG over the fireplace harth, or an artillery piece in the back yard.

    Gene Ralno
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    Gene Ralno

    Criminals all over the nation are salivating over this bill. Think of it. Beautiful weather. Great scenery. Fabulous entitlements. Liberal judges. And large numbers of unarmed women for the taking. And men for the shearing.

    freewill
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    freewill

    Who was the japanese guy in WWII that said?…it would be pointless to invade the mainland of the United States, there would be shots from behind every blade of grass!!…i guess that wouldnt be of any concern now..

    DaveW
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    DaveW

    Of course, Admiral Yamamoto was thinking militarily, not economically.

    I remember a line said by a Japanese businessman in a movie starring Sean Connery and Wesley Snipes, entitled Rising Sun (1993). The man said, ‘if you don’t want Japan to buy your businesses, then don’t sell them to them.’

    Mick
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    Mick

    Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto .

    David in NC
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    David in NC

    Fine by me. These asshat politicians are only able to write and pass these asshat bills, because the people of California elected them in the first place. Why on God’s earth any 2A fan – or fan of the Constitution for that matter – would choose to remain in this failed state, is beyond me. The cause is lost. It’s time to better your lives by moving out of CA. No, you are not running away. No, you are not admitting defeat. No, you are not cowards. You are simply pursuing your UNALIENABLE right as free Americans to life, liberty,… Read more »

    Jorge Norberto Pedace
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    Jorge Norberto Pedace

    VUEVO A DECIR LO DICHO EN COMENTARIOS ANTERIORES PARA ESTE BOLETIN,ES MUY TRISTE QUE EL
    ESTADO SE ARROGUE EL DERECHO DE ELIMINAR PUESTOS DE TRABAJO,Y ANULE LIBERTADES GENUI
    NAMENTE OBTENIDAS EN BASE A LEGALIDAD Y HONESTIDAD DE LOS PROPIETARIOS Y USUARIOS QUE
    DESEAN TENER SUS ARMAS Y HACER UN USO PACÍFICO Y RECREATIVO DE LAS MISMAS,TAN SOLO POR
    QUE NO SABEN ELABORAR SISTEMAS DENTRO DE LAS LEYES VIGENTES,PARA ANULAR A LOS INDESEA
    BLES ELEMENTOS VIOLENTOS,QUE NO SON DETECTADOS POR DISPOSICIONES VIGENTES AMPLIAS Y
    ESPECÍFICAS.

    TXGnr1911
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    TXGnr1911

    ENGLISH, you are in AMERICA!

    joel
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    joel

    VUEVO TOLD TO SAY EARLIER COMMENTS FOR THIS BULLETIN IS VERY SAD THAT
    STATE arrogate the right to remove JOBS, AND DEFEAT genui FREEDOMS
    Finely obtained under LEGALITY AND HONESTY OF OWNERS AND USERS WHO
    WEAPONS AND HAVE THEIR WISH TO MAKE A PEACEFUL AND RECREATIONAL USE THEREOF, ONLY BY THEY KNOW NOT DEVELOP SYSTEMS WITHIN THE APPLICABLE LAW, TO SET ASIDE TO INDESEA BLES VIOLENT ELEMENTS THAT ARE NOT DETECTED BY LARGE AND EXISTING PROVISIONS SPECIFIC.

    Senior Citizen
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    Senior Citizen

    Forgive me for not understanding the purpose of “GUN CONTROL”, but the parts of this bill you are showing I don’t see anything that is protecting legal law abiding citizens. And furthermore I see No written intent to stop criminals of how this will stop crime. And I realize this is off the topic but has anyone thought about reducing the debt or is gun control the ONLY problem in this country? Sad that our country has survived over 225 years with guns and Obama, Clinton, Frankenstein D- California ,etc no what is best for us. Who wipe their a****.

    DaveW
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    DaveW

    I have had a number of “discussions” with Sen Frankenstein, pointing out the fallacies in her line of reasoning (?). The witch claims she has kept a great many criminals from getting guns. There is nothing she will admit to; not even the truth and facts. She is so bad she has claimed that “no veteran should ever be allowed to possess a private firearm because they are all mentally ill with PTSD”. This proves she knows nothing about the military, or PTSD. She seems to think that every veteran served in actual combat and developed PTSD. This is delusional.… Read more »

    Jim Macklin
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    Jim Macklin

    The purpose of “gun control” was to promote crime. The first modern gun control law was THE SULLIVAN LAW in NY.. It was written by Tim Sullivan, a gangland leader in the Irish Five Points Gang. He used the law the disarm rival gangs and to issue permits to his gang members and associates.
    That’s why getting a NY license is so difficult.

    Russell
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    Russell

    I saw that light at the end of the tunnel, …. I MOVED ! … California tops my list of places to NOT visit or support any more …. I can only step back and hope the folks living under this FAR,FAR Left government can continue, I know I could not.

    Eric
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    Eric

    10 years of cctv cameras for 8 cameras would be like 1500 TB’s So you if can only use 3 tb drives that 500 drives at $110 . That’s $55000 in hard drives . ridiculous , Someone in CA government own a drive supply company? Most be corruption driving this UnAmerican government .

    DonM
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    DonM

    No gun stores. Perhaps they will give the police sharp sticks.

    Kaz
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    Kaz

    I work in IT and implement CCTV systems. Most companies can only afford to store 30-60 days of high quality footage, 10 years is unobtainable, even for the large sporting goods corporations! Especially when this bill requires all areas of the business to be recorded. If approved, this bill would strip our already severely limited 2nd Amendment rights down to almost nothing. Even scarier than that is the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th party insurance requirement. Call your Assemblymen now and demand that they vote no and actively move against this bill now!

    justtryit
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    justtryit

    Shhh…hear that tidal wave approaching from the West, and the large crack developing from the East. Bye, bye you BHO lovin’ P’sOS!

    San Diego
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    San Diego

    Screw you a&^hole

    Wally
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    Wally

    Hey Goober, Some of us who still live here have been fighting to keep this state and make it Golden once again. Not all of us are ‘lovers of BHO’ as you put it. A lot of us have decided to keep on fighting to not allow this state to haul ass over that cliff of socialism. Are we tilting at windmills??? More that likely. Why? My guess is because that there are so many honest hard working people who have up & left looking for better laws. We who have stayed here to fight for better legislators need help.… Read more »

    Dr Dave
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    Dr Dave

    Obviously you are in the minority since how many decades has Diane F been your senator and how many generations of gun hating congress senate and governors have you’all elected. The few of you who remain are in the absolute minority OR you simply don’t vote. Either way it seems that CA is the flag bearer of all laws to control guns in any creative format possible then it spreads from there to the east like NJ CT etc. I know LOTS of gun supportive folks from CA but I don’t get why the consistent election of liberal antigun folks… Read more »

    DaveW
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    DaveW

    Decades ago, Gov Pat Brown (Moonbeam’s father) was the last in a line of liberals which ruined the state economy. Even the Dems were angry and voted in Ronald Reagan who fixed the economy without cutting jobs, and he lowered taxes. In the last election, we defeated the Super Majority held by the progressives in the state legislature at the same time we put the GOP in control of Congress. At least now, we occasionally get something which helps us. Unfortunately, Moonbeam still gets his toy train, and the state progressives still got through bills which allow illegals to vote… Read more »

    Steve
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    Steve

    I’m here with you Wally. I vote but never get a candidate that I want and the measures that are idiotic always seem to pass but I still try because it’s been my home for 55 years. I too hear people from other states always criticizing Californians as it’s always are fault for the way California is. If you look around they too will see slowly but surely this mess is popping up in all the states not just here. I seriously believe it will take a revolution to help this country because it’s too far gone unfortunately.

    Margo Ann Collick
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    Margo Ann Collick

    i left California for a more “free” minded state. To me, California is a police state already, and they prove time and time again that things can only get worse. California can just slide into the ocean and the better the rest of our country will be.

    Bud
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    Bud

    As an unarmed state California will go to the top of the list with terrorist.

    Whodaty
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    Whodaty

    The California legislators and the citizens that elected them need to put there laws and money where their collective mouths are. In that California is presently and historically one of the biggest promoters of firearms and particularly the agrrandization of the misuse of guns, they need to absolutely outlaw any depictions of guns of any kind, BB or cannon or anywhere in between, or the use of same. I’m talking movies here. I know, first amendment and all that stuff, but if they are going to try to totally negate the 2nd amendment they should really start with the 1st.… Read more »

    DaveW
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    DaveW

    Too late. That bill is already underway. No storefront ads depicting firearms. The majority of county sheriffs are opposed to these bills, and, essentially, indicate that they will stand by the citizens who elected them, rather than the commies in Sacramento. The only thing the present bills will accomplish will be to turn law abiding gun owners into criminals so the state can justify confiscating their weapons and terminating their 2A rights since they will now be criminals. We need another pro gun group. Veterans for the 2nd Amendment. There are a great many of us. We are the ones… Read more »

    Dennis
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    Dennis

    Not sure what it’s going to take to stop the California anti-gun juggernaught short of Federal intervention. I’ve lost count of the number of proposed new gun “control” measures and more seem to be added each week. It will soon be impossible to know what is or isn’t legal.

    Bandit
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    Bandit

    If this monster of a bill gets through then the gun owners of the state are finished the government will declare us all criminals and go after every single gun owner they can find..the idiot that is pushing this one has an extreme fear of guns he is another one that like Clinton thinks guns have some sort of life force and are able to move around by themselves, the guy is a total loon. If you go through and look at the ones that are pushing these anti gun bills you will see that 99.9% of them are demoncrats,… Read more »

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    Like that California Assemblyman, a rabid anti gun zealot, recently convicted in illegal intarnational amrs trafficing? What was his name, Yeon Wu?

    Lowell
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    Lowell

    THis ends one of two ways, either the left imports enough foreigners to replace the white wright wing population that won’t go along with them, or that population overthrows the existing government and drives out both the foreigners and leftists that brought them. Immigration is the ultimate government welfare program. They bring in third worlders, addict them to handouts, and then the people they vote for to continue the handouts will also ban the guns. Importing muslims will not help spread Rothbardian anarcho-capitalism, because they are bringing their totalitarian religion/philosophy/culture with them. Bringing in latin Americans is just bringing in… Read more »

    Eric
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    Eric

    By this logic all auto makers are responsible for the drunk , drug impaired drivers since they could make a vehicle that can not be operated impaired. They created a vehicle that is a weapon , that kills , maims , as a person with permanent injury from a drunk driver ,it’s the same logic. However it’s stupid logic as every business would be responsible for the actions of others with their products, and be out of business in few years. Stop chasing the manufacturers and start blaming the real problem , THE CRIMINAL. Sorry if they don’t have enough… Read more »

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    further, and even more insane, if MY car is stolen and the thief kills someone with it, I would be liable under this nonsense. Where is the concept of personal responsibility here? What, are government god after all? No, they just think they are.

    alvin wong
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    alvin wong

    Maybe we should start doing law suits against other companies if this law passes and see if it isn’t removed as a law when it’s impact is felt by all businesses.

    Don in LA
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    Don in LA

    Hell, By the time this thing goes into effect there will be no guns left on the approved list.

    Great update – thanks.

    Eric_CA
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    Eric_CA

    The way things are going that’s possible. In 2015 the de-certified list was 56 pages long with over 1,000 handguns off the list AND only six were added. In 2016 many more fell off the list.

    David
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    David

    Too bad criminals will not be following any off these laws that are meant to punish legal gun owners and dealers.