The Dogs of War Are Close ~ American Spring

by Dr. Jim and Mary Clary

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USA –  -(Ammoland.com)- I think it is about time that we speak up and say in public what millions of Americans are already thinking.

If politicians (like Newsom in CA) or the paid lackeys from the Bloomberg/Soros camps, think that the majority of Americans are willing to give up their guns like the Australians, they are dead wrong.

I will state here and now, for the record, if these demented individuals succeed in passing laws to severely restrict, ban and ultimately confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens:

THERE WILL BE BLOOD. Their laws will turn lawful citizens into criminals due to the possession of what were once legal firearms … THEY WILL NOT TURN THEM IN!

If federal, state or local agents are dumb enough to come and attempt to take them….. there will be more bloodshed than at Gettysburg. We are not talking about the so-called militia guys or gun fanatics…. we are talking about regular, working class Americans who cherish their Constitutional rights…

They will take up arms, just as they did many years ago to protect those rights….and it will be the beginning of the second American Civil War.

For those ignorant progressive/socialists who believe that it could never happen here, I would like to remind you that your communist brethren in Yugoslavia did not believe it either. Civil Wars are happening all over the world… Syria, Libya, Egypt and not many years ago, Iran. Do you honestly believe that the U.S. is exempt?

There are over 100 million firearms in the possession of law abiding American citizens…. and thanks to Obama, there are more AR platform rifles in private hands than anyone ever imagined prior to his election. Collectively those Americans outnumber all of the military/police personnel by over 50 to one, and they possess more ammunition that the U.S. Army has in all of their arms depots.

The progressive and liberal anti-gunners need to face facts….. you can’t close the barn door after the horses are out……. the horses (firearms) are out, and they are never going back. The United States is not Australia or the United Kingdom.

The only thing that any reasonable individual can expect is to enforce the laws already on the books and punish the criminals who commit crimes with their illegal weapons. If the progressives and liberals are actually ignorant enough to believe that they can legislate away our 2nd Amendment rights, they are mistaken (and that includes the lame-duck’s executive orders).

This country has already become deeply divided by a president that considers our constitution a “flawed document”…. all that is needed is one more “straw” to push us into an American Spring. And, if that happens, the next civil war will not be North against South, it will be Patriotic Americans against the Unpatriotic Progressive Socialists.

With all of the above said, we implore the Bloombergs, Bradys, Clintons, and yes, even Obama….. do not push the country into another civil war.

We realize those of you who are progressives, liberals and socialists don’t believe that such a thing is possible; but remember, neither did Czar Nicholas of Russia.

Jim Clary
Jim Clary

A final note, John Hopkins researchers just published the results of their study on deaths due to medical errors in the United States. If you add up all of the deaths due to firearms, suicides and car accidents and doubled that number, it would not equal the deaths due to medical errors —- 251,454. Deaths due to medical errors is now the third leading cause of death in the U.S. behind heart disease and cancer.

Our question is….. “Why don’t the progressive/liberal elites address that problem instead of making up stuff about gun owners and firearms?”

 

About Jim and Mary Clary:

Jim and Mary Clary have co-authored over three hundred and fifty articles, (and counting) on shooting and hunting. You can read many of them on AmmoLand News.

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Italian stalion

I’m new to this website but I’m a Patriot /Christian through and through and I’m happy that I can voice my opinions. In my opinion all the talk about Democrat vs Republican is educational but I believe it’s more than that. I believe this is about Pagan religion vs Christianity. Almost 500,000 Christians have been sacrificed, beheadings, body mutilations, and raping according to pagan sacrificial doctrine, all of this is documented and on film but will not make it to mainstream media. Mainstream media wants you to think its the cartel and is killing their rivals. For Mexico its the… Read more »

Wild Bill

Welcome aboard Stalion!

Thom Paine

Especially what with Gee Crud’s official title and pay grade being ,”Bitch in the Barrel” and G.S. Zero. Looks like I’ve missed some fun here . But no signal where I’ve been . 🙂

Josey Wales

My position remains unchanged regarding my prior posts. Your name calling is your right. I take no offense from it at all. However please put electrical tape over your Skype lens and turn off the microphone! Again, thanks for your cooperation pertaining to your “government” computer which you are using for personal use. JOSEPHINE

Wild Bill

I believe that using a gov. computer for personal use is a firing offense, as I recall.

Josey Wales

It is. Thought it wise to remind “BUD” of that. I KNOW THAT ALL THE REGULARS ON HERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE. ANYONE READING THE POSTS CAN ALSO ASCERTAIN THAT US REGULARS ALL COME FROM VERY DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS AND THAT IS A GOOD THING! I LEARN A LOT FROM ALL OF YOU!!!! DESPITE OUR VARYING BACKGROUNDS AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE ALL AMERICANS. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER CAME HERE ON A SHIP AND FUNNELED THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND IN 1902 AS A TEENAGER!! ALL OF MY MALE PREDECESSORS, INCLUDING MYSELF, FOUGHT IN A WAR TO KEEP OUR WAY OF LIFE… Read more »

Wild Bill

JW, the thing that gee dunk taught me is that some people can not be taught. But you, JW, are always welcome in my neck of the woods.

Josey Wales

Can’t fix STUPID…but ya can get even!

gee bud

Dang.. learning from a bunch of delusional washed up old men and indoctrinated young gamers, Just the kind of education the GOP crime family likes their little BS eaters to have. Keep them dumb subservient and hope they die young . Perfect little corporate tools ya’ll are.

gee bud

Now why would I use a gumbmint computer for personal use? what’s up lil bill your abreveateing agan to lazy ta spel ? That’s despicabel.

gee bud

Sorry franky your just fling’in arrows then trying to paint bulls eyes around them, No camera no mic your batting zero pal. Stick to anarchy.. oh wait you suck at that too.

Josey Wales

I NEED TO SAY NO MORE. HES NOT EVEN AWARE I ALREADY PLANTED A “DOORWAY” IN HIS DEVICES THAT ALLOWS ONLY ME TO OPEN. HIS SECURITY DIDNT EVEN FLAG IT SO I KNOW IT DID A “DNA” PLANT. ALL THE SCANNING COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE WONT FIND THE “DOOR” ALL I ASK OF YOU “BUD” (NOT GONNA USE HIS FIRST NAME) IS THAT, GOING FORWARD, ADD TO THE POST IN A MANNER THAT CONTRIBUTES IN A SEMI-NORMAL FASHION. I WOULD DIE FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK BUT THROWING OUT GRENADES IN THE MIDDLE OF A GOOD THREAD IS YELLING “FIRE” IN A… Read more »

Wild Bill

JW, you are a really fair person. If you ever need a place to stay while vacationing in E. Texas, just let me know.

gee bud

U guys coud hav a cercle jerk wit out skype! Stil no disgusshinn on the BS treesoniss artical huh lil bill?

TEX

Have you noticed gee dud has real problems with sentence structure ? This pissant went to school to learn and he ate the covers off the books.His momma has decided to have this little pissant evicted from her basement ! He won’t leave her basement voluntarily ! He is a pervert that targets little boys. We all know what happens to pedophile perverts when they get to prison !

gee bud

You would know texant. You sure got the lo low down on the cartoon hour as well. Makes perfect sense.

Josey Wales

Lol. You’re ignorance is exceeded only by the sexual pleasure you get from teenage boys! Here’s the really funny part Bud, I’m a highly highly highly paid computer hacker. I could infiltrate, obliterate and install a virus in your system in less than the time it takes for you to look at another Tiger Beat magazine!!! Did you ever f#ck with someone you wish shouldn’t have? That’s me! Keep posting. I already got your IP address. The more you post, the more I know. Want proof of how quickly I can f#ck your life up? You’re hard drive in you’re… Read more »

TEX

@Josey Wales,I think you got gee duds attention ! I think about right now he is cleaning his pants ! LMFAO ! Take care !

gee bud

Sorry your nutjob pal ted nugent has the shitty britches title. Dang ..Fred Bear must be rolling over in his grave.

TEX

gee dud,come to Teds place outside Waco,TX with me sometime pissant. He’s a Yankee but one of the best dudes I’ve ever known,….unless you piss him off ! I will arrange a stalk hunting trip out there ! YOU’RE INVITED TOO GEE DUD !

Wild Bill

I don’t know Tex…the Nuge might whack him and take him to the taxidermy man. I can see the sign under him now: Yankee Gee Dunkus (that is latin for a noxious varmint species)!

gee bud

Eat me Josephine . Your not even close you wacko. I never met a bigger bunch of morons than you tards. Keep it coming your the ones digging your ditches deeper. You can’t discuss the articles and when I continue to prove you eat BS then you move to threats, typical of mentally ill people. With mentalities like you guys have no wonder your worried about your gun rights.

TEX

gee dud,you had your warning from JW ! Goodbye gee dud !

gee bud

Josephine in even dumber than you texant. I didn’t think that could even be possible. Think about this…. a hacker that tells you he hacked you ? Fuc’in hilarious! Josephine hasn’t got one thing right yet. Bots are the bomb. And all you morons think I’m a dude…he he Maybe I’m a transvestite ha ha ha Are all ya morons homophobes too?

TEX

Goodbye pissant !

gee bud

Catch ya later texant

gee bud

Ya want to be a criminal josephine? wana have a bet who’s been hacked first Franky?

Josey Wales

“BUD” your anti-spyware is two generations old!!!! Better update it now. I got some pictures of you and a woman standing together! All too easy to get into the two and possibly a third computer that is shut off or the Android and IPhone you have in your domicile. Why do I do this to you? SIMPLE: YOU HAVE THE RIGHT POST HERE JUST LIKE ALL OF US. I FOUGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM TO DO SO!!! YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO AGREE/DISAGREE. I RESPECT OPPOSING OPINIONS THATS WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON!!! HOWEVER, WHENEVER IM FOLLOWING AN INTERESTING THREAD… Read more »

gee bud

Make my Day tardo let everyone see my pic. All hat no cattle just like the rest of the morons here. Did you know it’s a crime to hack government computers and personal computers ? so your a criminal Josephine?

Sedirion

I would back off if I were you.
I’m in Cyber Security. There are many ways to erase tracks and misdirect trails, so a good “hacker” can be be nearly impossible to find if he’s careful.
If he has as much knowledge of your systems as I think he does, believe me…he can make many years of your life a living hell-on-earth.
Welcome to the digital world.

Sedition

I would let it drop if I were you.
I’m in Cyber Secirity. Someone who knows what they’re doing can easily erase their tracks, spoof MAC and IP addys, and lead you down false trails and trail loops.
If he knows as much about your systems as I suspect he does, he can make the next few years of your life a living hell-on-earth.
Let it be.
And welcome to the digital world.

ps. Don’t look too hard for LEO and FED investigations to be too successful. Their own cyber defenses are woefully pathetic in many areas…especially in social engineering.

VT Patriot

Go for it Josey. Never heard of this moron before this article, and now he’s become a nightmare. I’d love to pester him the same as he pesters everyone on this site. I also wish the mods would ban his worthless rambllings on this site.

TEX

I’ve emailed Ammoland about this pissant ! Nothing yet.

Gregory Romeu

Josey! Where the hell have you been hiding? Haven’t seen you in a long time! As for dropping rain on the pissant? FIRE MISSION!

Wild Bill

JW, you are always welcome in East Texas!

Wild Bill

I would not worry about gee dunk complaining to any police agency (state or federal). If he draws too much attention to himself, he might just get himself deported back to where ever he is really from.

Dr. Jim Clary

A bit of checking and we found that Gee Bud isn’t even an American. He is a black Brit, living near Birmingham, England… having migrated there from Somalia. All of which explains his poor sentence structure and lack of understanding of American society. Still checking, but indications are that he is a Muslim who is waiting for his “visa” to come to the United States…. enough said. Thank you Josey.

gee bud

he he he Must have franky behind the obama birther and the clinton email BS too. Gosh I have to send you morons bigger spoons so ya can dish out the BS faster and in bigger portions. When I picture you gullible bastards I see baby birds stretching their necks to get more worms.

Stephen Wilson

I have reached the point where I believe – firmly, that obama, Soros, Bloomberg and other global elitists are jamming these gun laws on us for the sole purpose of creating the American Spring that you speak of. I believe they WANT US TO REVOLT. These are people who view our country – and us, as the last big hurtle in there efforts and dreams of a true, “one world order.” They need us, out of the way to attain that. I can tell you right now that the vast majority of police will not confiscate citizens firearms. Cops love… Read more »

james clary

Amen Stephen, and that is exactly what the trolls like GeeBud don’t recognize…. there are millions of veterans, from Vietnam to the Middle East who feel the same way. They are trained and know how to respond…. even the former dyke head of DHS (who later walked back her statement) recognized that that group was fully capable of taking over the country if provoked. They won’t be shooting cops or military, as most of the police and military will join them in getting rid of the garbage … and the folks like GeeBud will be the first to go. T

gee bud

Your a delusional nutjob jimmy and shouldn’t be anywhere near a weapon.

Dr. Jim Clary

It’s Dr. Jim to poorly educated types like you, GeeBud. You don’t do a bad job of pretending to be a gun owner, when your IP address and history clearly identify you as a poorly paid liberal troll who does his best to provoke others and call them names. Why don’t you go back to FOX and irritate them? You are done here…. everyone knows who and what you are.

gee bud

Your not getting my respect when you put crap like this out. And you couldn’t be farther from the truth with your BS projection crap. Your a washed up fraud maybe you and the Newdge can hang out on the dementia floor and crap your pants together. It’s instigators like you guys that give ammo to the anti 2nd amendment crowd but your too dumb to even realize your helping their cause and screwing us responsible gun owners and sportsman over.. I’ll call you Dr ….ha Dr terrorist maybe.

Dr. Jim Clary

While GeeBud was toking his joint, we left the US military in 1975 (as a Major) and joined the S.A. Koevoet, based out of Kavango. We had a lot of experience in dealing with kaffirs like GeeBud. When we were disbanded in 1989, I returned to the US with my wife (born in Southern Rhodesia.. now Zimbabwe). So, we do know a few things about military operations…. just a few.. I have no need or desire for your respect… I expect that you have the same disdain for me as I have for you.

gee bud

Hey jimmy did you ever get your honorable discharge reinstated or does the military still think you lost your marbles?

gee bud

“We had a lot of experience in dealing with kaffirs like GeeBud”

Ya mind if I quote u on that Dr. bigot?

Dr. Jim Clary

My DD214 reads honorable discharge….what does yours say? Oh, that’s right, you don’t have one because you never served because your criminal background precluded your enlistment. I will leave you with that thought and turn you over to the tender mercies of Mr. Wales and Mr. Sedirion.

TEX

@Dr.Jim Clary,gee dud was not only turned down by the USMC but told to just go away ! MCO P6100.12 series..gee dud had Bed-wetting (enuresis) and sleepwalking issues. But it gets better. gee duds mental evaluation had the shrink seeking a shrink. gee duds biggest problem right now is his refusal to move out of his mommas basement. The pissant has forced his momma to have him evicted by court order. gee dud is pleading insanity. Unbelievable but true ! This pissant is off the charts nuts ! He walks around the basement all night pissing all over himself. You… Read more »

gee bud

Conveniently left out the rest of the story there jimmy or did you forget the rest of the story? As for Myself I’m still serving my country unlike you who is turning against it.

“and turn you over to the tender mercies of Mr. Wales and Mr. Sedirion.”

ahh and the gang mentality shines it’s ever lov’in light on me…la la la

that’s right jimmy defend your base. The cross dressing criminal josephine and the World of Warcraft armchair warrior have yo back mon.. lol

gee bud

texant your beginning to sound like little marco with all the repetitious comments. Find some new material your same old stuff is getting boring man. I know eating BS has a tendency to make you regurgitate the same stuff over and over, Maybe you should step away from the BS buffet for a while and try exercise and a diet of fruits and vegetables. If that works for you and you don’t end up ruining the rest of your life in prison or live a life of anxiety and delusion you can thank me later son.

Margo

a few days late… But thanks Wild bill !

Blacksheepone

Hey,Gee bug ,you be this first to come to my house OK I will give you f-ing bullets first!!!!! what a MORON

gee bud

Been to your house a few times already, Ask your girl , she’s the one who told me my bullet is bigger than yours so keep it. Your girl is not too bad though once you get past the used part.

TEX

OFFENSE IS ALWAYS THE BEST DEFENSE !

Robert T Foy

Not to offend works even better, but those ass-clowns in Washington have totally fouled all that up when they decided to join England and France carving up the rest of the planet like somehow they were entitled to do so.

barryme not

“and that includes the lame-duck’s” …

I would like to call attention to what I believe is a misspelled word…
I believe it should be an ” i ” instead of a ” u ” properly reading ” lame- d!ck”.

Gregory Romeu

Or the “D” should be an “F”…. Lame F*cks!

Wild Bill

Welcome home, Margo!

Margo

I am so happy to see or hear the words and feelings that I have had in my own heart for years now. YES !! let them come, let they come for my guns,my liberty, if I die in my doorway, then let it said , she died for freedom, and she payed for it with not only her blood, but the blood of the tyrants that came for her liberty. You have already torn my country apart, tried to make me believe that everything I was taught as a child was wrong. I love my country, I fear my… Read more »

Witold Pilecki

Already active in The Armed Civil Disobedience of Non-Compliance, and my 100 Heads Life & Casualty policy is paid up.

DEFY-DECEIVE-EVADE-RESIST-SMUGGLE-DEFEND

Your move, tyrants.

gee bud

DEFY-DECEIVE-EVADE-RESIST-SMUGGLE-DEFEND

Ah …another GOP crime family slogan surfaces. priceless

Wild Bill

Welcome aboard, Capt!

Captain America

You missed one thing Obama is satan on earth and the Clinton’s,bloom bergs,soros’ feignseinsof the world are just worshipping his evilness at his feet! America is for Americans not these bloated parasites(maggots) First never ever trust a devilcrat and never, never ever give up your guns America or that would be the END of the USA. And the free world the devilcrats have long abandoned America for an evil communistic dream of total power! I for one am standing against them in every way for America. I have no guns to give up but plan on purchasing an armory for… Read more »

Seemann

I will not give up my guns or my freedom and I believe Bloomjerk and Obamjerk should have their armed security
taken from them. The cowards want our guns but hide behind the protection of armed anti American traitors.
Trust me, these gun grabbers are C O W A R D S !

gee bud

This is where you guys are delusional, For 60 plus years the GOP has been feeding you the BS to get votes. And still no one has grabbed your guns. The chicken little BS is really old and lame.

gee bud

The GOP is old and lame and going extinct. Maybe then the whole gun grabber myth will die too.

Wild Bill

All the politicians dish out lies, not just the Republican party. As far as the gun grabbing part: apparently you are to young to remember the Clinton gun ban. I remember being at the stop light of Venice Blvd and Santa Monica, When I heard a plain jane radio ad by the State of California telling people to turn in their so called “assault rifles” or transport them out of the state. And then in the wake of hurricane Katrina, the Louisiana National Guard and local police went from house to house confiscating firearms. So, yes, there are two recent… Read more »

gee bud

Again you regurgitate BS

retiredjag

Again you insult, but make no argument, have no facts, nor offer any logic.

gee bud

Everything I say is based in deductive reasoning and facts, If you bone heads would understand that instead of using inductive reasoning aka feeding on BS, we wouldn’t be having this playground chat right now.

Gregory Romeu

Wild Bill, don’t watse anymore of your time on this POS. There is absolkutley NO getting through this mutton head… He is totally illitearate to anything that deals with common sense or rationale and his only goal is to disrupt and waste OUR resources of time and intelligence.

Wild Bill

You are correct GR, but it is hard not to!

Gregory Romeu

Wild Bill, don’t watse anymore of your time on this POS. There is absolkutley NO getting through this mutton head… He is totally illitearate to anything that deals with common sense or rationale and his only goal is to disrupt and waste OUR resources of time and intelligence.

TEX

Bill,I thought we were going to disregard gee dud and not respond to the moron ! You’re right about it being very difficult not to. I still don’t think the useless punk ever moved out of his mommas basement. I tried my best to explain to gee dud that he needs to quit fighting those mental health issues he has and get some help. He is one of those fools that you send to school to learn and he eats the covers off the books.

Wild Bill

Tex and GR, I think I’m a gee dunk addict! I’m looking for a twelve step program in the yellow pages!

gee bud

Sheeeet….You morons haven’t had your blood pressure rise this much since your bird sanctuary invasion. And Ammoland set a record for posts on a propaganda piece. Sheeeet …Ammoland should put me on the dole cause the corporate add dudes are loving it. We’re lov’in it too cause all ya got ta do is spell a wird wrong and the A-holes come out the woodwork. You sucker way to eazy boyz

Vanns40

That’s a nice patriotic thought and, admittedly, some will take up arms but, as we have seen in CA and NY, when you go about this in small, creeping incrementalism, people get used to it and then WHAM, all of a sudden it’s too late. There will be lots of bluster and plenty of key board warriors but when the armored cars and battering rams start coming door to door the majority will fold. The youngsters and middle age businessmen with families won’t risk death to themselves or their families. The only ones left, willing to give up everything (and… Read more »

JohnC

You guys and gals may think that you are brave patriots. Some of you are. All may be brave.
But Patriots do not threaten revolution or civil war. Our nation is great, but talk of killing law enforcement and military personnel while speaking of armed insurrection is not to the benefit of our nation or of yourselves.

gee bud

Hi John nice to hear from someone who is sane. I was beginning to think there were no such persons here at ammoland

TEX

gee bum,you and JohnC are made for each other ! Two sides of a pissant coin !

gee bud

Heads or tails texant …. call it When your in jail I’ll tell your pals which way you like it. Lol

Wild Bill

Jail? What brought that up? Another wild gee dunk imagining! Jail for an expression of free speech? Is that the liberal answer for something that you do not like to read? You feel that you can write anything you want, but your opponents deserve jail? Oh, how society has failed you?

gee bud

You also don’t know the limits of your free speech. Keep making the threats against your government and fellow citizens and you’ll more than likely find out what many others have found out. Petitioning does not equal threats lill’ bill.

Wild Bill

I have never made a threat against any of the various governments or any person, gee dunk. I know that one thing not protected by free speech, gee dunk, liable. Liable is when you broadcast, in writing, something that is not true about someone. For example: stating, in writing that someone the government when that never occurred is liable. Nor is the First Amendment limited to petitioning. I am pretty sure that I have forgotten more about the First Amendment than you will ever know.

gee bud

Aparently ya forget the meening of co conspirtor and instagater too

Wild Bill

gee dunk, you are changing your argument, which shows the untenability of your original allegations. You have unknowingly lost your debate. A novice’s error.
Conspiracy requires an overt act. As to instigate, to which federal statute are you referring?

gee bud

I lost nothing who made you judge? First of all I never said The first was limited to petitioning You delusional people think by putting words in other peoples mouths wins a debate? Ok mr gramar king explain your word salad you sound like Sarah Palins speech writer……”example: stating, in writing that someone the government when that never occurred is liable.” oooowa that is well …almost understandable. And how about this masterful punctuation and grammar wizardry. ” I know that one thing not protected by free speech, gee dunk, liable.” Another example of your wondrous grasp of writing? Like reaping… Read more »

JohnC

I don’t need any compliments from you fool.

Lou

Frankly, I’m a little shocked that AmmoLand would print an article like this. Not only does it stir up emotions, to no good purpose, but it could encourage some, who are roused by it to extreme, even violent actions. The simple fact is that the Gun Banners are smarter then us. Every year many new Anti Gun Bills, Taxes, and Regulations are proposed all around this Nation. We rush around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to knock them down. And for every ten anti gun efforts attempted, we manage to beat back eight, or nine of them.… Read more »

Wild Bill

Printing an article like this is just part of the free market place of ideas. And I appreciate your thoughtful commentary.

gee bud

Articles like this could be written by FBI operatives to flush out you terrorists. You dumb asses make their job easy.

TEX

ALWAYS GIVE THEM THE AMMO FIRST ! THE SON OF A BIT*CHES KNOW THEY WILL NEVER GET OUR FIREARMS ! THEY CAN TRY AND DIE ! LOCK AND LOAD,ITS ON !

gee bud
Wild Bill

Well, gee dunk, I don’t want to discourage your attendance here, but if “… I just figured out you can’t have any intelligent conversation with delusional tards like you guys here.” is the way you feel, then what is the point?
Now, don’t take this personally, but “…you can’t have any intelligent … with …tards like you…” evidences an incredible lack of knowledge about the English language.

gee bud

I gave up on the intelligent conversation the first week here because none of you are capable of it or tolerant of any views that do not align with your supremacist gang mentalities. I just decided to come down to your level and give you what you sow. It appears now your comprehension levels can understand my dissenting charm and opinions.

Wild Bill

Down to my level? That is the thanks that I get for trying to help you with the facts, general logic, and use of the English language? For example gb: “It appears now your comprehension levels can understand my dissenting charm and opinions.” That is not English. It is babble using English words.

gee bud

See… as soon as I increase the comprehension level of my writing ya’ll start failing miserably. I’ll try harder to write so it’s on par with your skill level billy

TEX

BIG DONALD TRUMP WILL BE PRESIDENT IN LESS THAN A YEAR ! AMERICA WILL SOON BE THE AMERICA WE WILL RESPECT AGAIN STARTING BY RUNNING THE SOCIALISTS OUT OF IT ! NO DAMAGE THAT HUSSEIN OBANANA HAS DONE CANT BE REPEALED OR OVERTURNED,AND IT WILL BE ! DAMN IT WILL BE SO FINE !

Thom Paine

+ Gee Dud , So here’s to laughing at you kid ! 🙂 You are so brainwashed and deluded I’m sure you think everything is just great . But some of us pay attention. It would behoove you to start doing the same. If that it you can break away from your crack pipe.

gee bud

Because you guys live in delusional fear everyday and eat corporate BS on a daily basis doesn’t mean everyone has to.

Wild Bill

Yeah, it scares me, too. Look at how well the federal government took care of the native Americans, the mustangs, and our vets that need health care, among other things. You know gee dunk brings up some more wrong headed logic that is interesting to analyze, for example: “If it wasn’t for imagration you wouldn’t exist.” Even the most cursory of examination; adopting, for the sake of argument, gee dunk’s implied argument, his statement is obviously wrong. How does he know whether or not I am part native American? In the alternative, if it wasn’t for immigration, I may not… Read more »

Wild Bill

I think that gee dunk is getting lazy. He no longer even constructs an argument (that takes time, effort, and thought). Now, he only implies an argument, and wants us to fill in the blank spaces. For instance, I wonder what delusional fears, gee dunk thinks that we live in?

gee bud

No not lazy I just figured out you can’t have any intelligent conversation with delusional tards like you guys here. I thought when I first started commenting here on the indoctrinating BS there would be someone with critical thinking skills but alas I was wrong. So now it’s just fun to poke around here with my ugly stick and get all you haters riled up and expose the true nature of all the dolts were finding here. ISIS on boys!

TEX

@gee bum,get off the drugs and find a job ! Get out of your mothers basement,get off drugs and find a job. Try to become a productive citizen ! Your the little engine that could !

gee bud

And at the end of the day the little engine always wins. I’m glad you keep up with the cartoons and easy readers texant.

Thom Paine

+ Gee Dud , You make the mistake of thinking I’m anti government. I am not . I am however against illegal,llegitimate ,corrupted government. And that is presently what we have.

gee bud

Corrupted goverment is what we have in all the red states and the GOP controlled power positions. Did you know the GOP is the biggest crime family in world bar none?

Wild Bill

Gee dunk, that statement is just ridiculous on its face. Have you ever met the crime families “… in the world bar none (sic)? Have you ever met even one crime family? Have you ever met even one member of a crime family?

VT Patriot

Bill, Ya gotta be careful with gee dud. After all, he’s stated above that hes a “gun owner and sportsman”. I don’t know about you, but he’s got me shaking in my boots. A real live gun owner. BTW, does water guns count? LMAO

Wild Bill

VT Pat, I’m trying not to hurt his feelings, but my 91 year old mother probably has more guns than he does.

gee bud

You won’t hurt my feelings billy in fact I’m getting some good laughs from your hypocritical greater than art thou BS. And when you guys bring it.. I’m sure when the first GAU-8 opens up on yur arse the first place you’ll run and hide is behind mommy who probably will still be shoot’in at the a-10 with her delusional finger gun.

Victor

Both parties are corrupt and that’s why Trump is winning people over. He’s not one of them, hopefully. Both parties are involved with the globalist agenda 21.

gee bud

Sorry to burst your delusional bubble but Trump drinks at the global agenda 21 water fountain.
Read and enlighten your dementia http://www.yachtforums.com/threads/donald-trumps-yacht-trump-princess.25218/

TEX

Gee dud,get the critical mental evaluation that you so desperately need. Pissant,get off the drugs and get out of your mothers basement. You’re the little train that could !..,”I can do it,I can do it,I can do it,..”

gee bud

Ahh life lessons according to texant …Is that how your daddy/uncle brung yu up?

Thom Paine

+ Gee Punk , Wow now I know your a deluded drug user! Thanks for confirming that for everyone!

Thom Paine

+Wild Bill, PS , Nothing quite as frightening to me as the government , “taking care of me”.

gee bud

If it wasn’t for the government you’d be speaking Japanese or German right now.
If it wasn’t for imagration you wouldn’t exist.
If it wasn’t for intelligence you wouldn’t be laughed at.

VT Patriot

Hey Gee Dud, what the heck are you doing on a site that is pro gun, pro freedom? BTW, if it wasn’t for millions of patriots with guns, we would be speaking German. Japanese, not as long as we have ‘blades of grass’. Not the kind of grass you’re smoking tho.
I’ll try not to laugh for the intelligence you demonstrate with ‘imagration’, formerly known as “IMIGRATION”. Now, back to mom’s basement for you.

gee bud

I am a gun enthusiasts and a sportsman. I’m just not a stupid one. Nor do I give a rats ass about spelling on a blog. I’m not a supremacist and I believe everyone has the same right to walk this planet as you think you do until you break this countries laws. Ammoland has some good articles seeded but it also has a hell of lot of bull shit that you clowns gobble up by the truck load. You don’t even realize it’s fed to you by people that value money and power above everything else including the constitution.… Read more »

Wild Bill

What kind of gun do you have gee dunk? I just got a really nice engraved second generation Colt SSA with ivory grips for my collection.

gee bud

un liek u dum arses eye hav a beter pok’r face and amm a lot smartor and dunt show mi hand ta the camiraz ore the terrirists lik u

gee bud

Ya know its a fact that when some bozo criticizes spelling it’s really because your a shallow and insecure asshole

Clark Kent

No, actually it is because it points out the writer is a lazy, inconsiderate slob who has ZERO respect for those who read his posts. Get off your duff, buy a dictionary, and LEARN TO SPELL!

Wild Bill

I can not believe that I am agreeing with CK for a second time! gee dunk, you better listen to Clark, but just about the spelling, and the respect part, and the getting off your duff part, too.

gee bud

Sorey eye m not ass proficent wit the yuse of speel checer an voyce ta tex ass u PC polelease r

TEX

I have never agreed with Clark Kent about anything ! But he’s spot on right here.

gee bud

Oh that says a lot coming from a moron texant

You were right about this part of your ignorant rant ck….
“who has ZERO respect for those who read his posts”.

Gregory Romeu

Gee Dumbass, about the Dallas AARP meeting video? The link you posted in response to that is bullshit because, well you poor demented little dipstick, that was ME that took over the podium when the little AARP Bitch stomped out of the meeting because she couldn’t cram Obamacare down the throats of Common Sense thinking people! “BOOM”! Bitch!

gee bud

Hey romeo our governor screws us and your loving it? You liked the old GOP scam care? Your on the goverment dole and you bitch about what others are trying to do to progress quality care? That is plain and simple delusion man.

Wild Bill

From now on gee dunk, you may refer to me as Herr Oversturmbannfurer, and I will refer to you as Herr opstkuken.

gee bud

No I like just referring to you guys as deluded idiots

Wild Bill

I am so disappointed, gee dunk, you no longer even try to make conversation. You are reduced to just throwing insults. Even your insults are wholly lacking in sophistication, and are thus, uninteresting. If you have decided to rise no higher than fourth grade name caller, could you, please, at least, try to use a word that I haven’t seen before. Perhaps there is some derogatory computer term… something.

gee bud

yeah it’s disappointing when someone give you a dose of your own medicine isn’t it?

TEX

@gee bum,you still here you little pissant ?

gee bud

Yeah texant I piss on dumb ants like you

MontieR

It was NOT “the government but the America people who won WW2. Legal imigration DID build this country, the demented left is allowing ILLEGAL invasion to destroy us. Your statement shows you have no inteligence to speak of and shows you to be a liberal parrot.

Wild Bill

gee dunk writes, ” … I piss on dumb ants like you” I bet gee has to squat to do it!

gee bud

What ever it takes to get down to your level.

Lowell

Trump is going to trounce Hillary in November. As sweet as the look will be on her face, her winning is is the only thing that can start this. Hillary’s win would kick the dominoes in the same way as Lincoln’s, and we could go about the business of the necessary win to save the US from the left. When Trumps makes all the pundits look like idiots again in November like he did on Super Tuesday, his victory is going to pacify our side. He’s not stupid enough to overtly betray us, and he’s not Hillary that would throw… Read more »

TEX

The bull dyke will get slaughtered by Trump !

gee bud

If you were married texant I’d bet it be to a bull dyke. I’m married to an Irish Cherokee woman, she doesn’t make me her bitch. Just don’t add alcohol. R U a wee bit homophobic texant? or you just fighting other demons or voices in ur head?

Gregory Romeu

Ahhh! The mating call of the pissant! If it weren’t for his chatter we would have to wonder when he left his keyboard and wandered over to the school yard trolling for his prey?

Ring68

Keep your smoke poles loaded its come’n !!

gee bud

It’s only com’in if you idiots are bting’in. Are you planning on bring.in it?

gee bud

You guys are sick get help

Maluka

The “we’re sweet hotel” called and your room is ready for you and barney frank for next weekend. Enjoy..

RDNK

gee bum is a little fa*g perver*t for sure ! Can’t you just see him and Barney ? LMFAO !

gee bud

Next time your tuning into your cartoon hour watch for me!

Thom Paine

@Gee Dud, And you need to find a new country. Suggest you start now. We are taking this one back whether you like it or not.

Wild Bill

Well, Thom, maybe gee dunk can help me out with a few questions that I have. He knows more about this than I do. First, if we are sick, will Obamacare pay for our care and upkeep? Second, maybe it is a permanent condition that we can use to claim Social Security disability payments. Finally, are there any other government programs that will support us because we are sick?

Thom Paine

+ Wild Bill. What they won’t tell you is that without major health insurance to cover the gap. Is that the state will end up taking everything you own. But for statists I suppose that’s a good thing right? Folks who worked their whole lives end up with nothing and still get less than minimal care. The statist swindle knows no bounds ,and thanks to low information voters like Gee Dud ? It’s now worse than ever. Best to you and yours Bill. , T.P.

gee bud

I suggest you do some research into Obamacare because you have absolutely no Idea what your talking about tommy.

Gregory Romeu

+ gee bud Just Google, DALLAS AARP MEETING and watch the video.

Wild Bill

I freely and fully admit that I know nothing about Obama care because I buy my own health insurance.

I think, GR, that gee dunk is not interested in learning anything. He was just bomb throwing.

gee bud

Hey gregory I really can’t help you if you still eating 7 year old bull shit. If you want some facts about that meeting click this. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/7/763368/-

Obama care wasn’t even implemented at that time and the dumbass Texas crowd was suckered in again to the GOP BS buffet via the chicken little routine.
When you feed on bullshit it usually gets you killed or delusional.

gee bud

Is that what you call facts little bill …bombs ? you are delusional either that or your 11 years old.

gee bud

Again you lie little bill if your a vet the tax payer is picking up your tab.

Gregory Romeu

Wild Bill and Tex, is there anyway that we can get a video of Gee Bud pissing all over himself when I explain to him that it was, “I” that took over the podium in the video of the “Dallas AARP meeting” where are the AARP rep kept trying to cram Obamacare down the throats of the members and the members kept trying to reject it against her will and she threw a pissy fit and stomped out of the meeting?

gee bud

I may piss my pants because i’m laughing so hard at your stupidity

gee bud

Ya’ll know your on the same side with ISIS

Wild Bill

No, I don’t go to the VA for medical treatment. No way. But you, gee dunk, are paying my pension so you just stay employed because you have me to support! Every where you go and every job you ever get, if any, you will be working to support me.

gee bud

Ah .. now the government dole is a good thing right little bill? and “unless you are paying cash for all your care” your part of the socialized pool system called insurance. Are you a socialist bill? I mean you drive on socialist built roads , worked for a socialized establishment, collect socialized income. If walks and talks like a duck billy isn’t it a duck? Or r u jest a hipakritacal duc?

Gregory Romeu

Wild Bill and Tex, is there anyway that we can get a video of Gee Bud pissing all over himself when I explain to him that it was, “I” that took over the podium in the video of the “Dallas AARP meeting” where are the AARP rep kept trying to cram Obamacare down the throats of the members and the members kept trying to reject it against her will and she threw a pissy fit and stomped out of the meeting?

Wild Bill

Hell yes, GR! He made a vid that he sells out of the trunk of his Fiat at the corner of Willowbrook and Imperial Hwy. It is called “Pee Buddies in the Golden Shower.

gee bud

Not me but I see you and romeo downloaded that 6 times last week. Why do you want credit for being an idiot when you didn’t even know what the ACA was then?
All you knew was it was an Obama plan so you attacked?

gee bud

tommy????? taking back the country that the tea party corporate ruse corrupted?

Janek

Obozo and his minions know that the only way they can “fundamentally change” America is by precipitating anarchy. What better way to inflame the populace than by steadily infringing on personal freedoms enumerated in the Bill of Rights. And let’s not forget the effects of excessive taxation in the form of punitive taxes on tobacco, sugary drinks and firearms/ammunition. A good example of punitive taxation is a sugar tax being proposed in Philadelphia. A 12 ounce can of soda costs about $1.00 from a vending machine. Adding the proposed 3 cent per ounce tax to that can of soda brings… Read more »

TEX

Yep,it does !

Gregory Romeu

The ironic thing about Obama’s first run for the Presidency? If you recall all he said was basically, “HOPE and CHANGE”, but NOBODY ever asked him what he meant by any of that….. As well, just watch the Eddie Murphy movie, “The Distinguished Gentleman” that came out prior to Obama’s run for office and you will see WHERE Obama got his protocol to run for office… Minus a few diffferences in the movie’s script, it is perhaps the closest format that Obama followed to get into our Whitehouse!

Ragtop69

I just took delivery of a Henry Big Boy .357Mag lever action rifle. 10 rounds and it draws a lot less attention from the anti-gun crowd than the AR based weapons.

Clark Kent

Who cares what the anti-gun crowd thinks? They would prefer you own a squirt gun. P.S. The anti-gunners want to ban your lever action rifle also.

gee bud

You guys need to relize the difference between the anti gun crowd and the anti stupid crowd

RDNK

@gee bummer,You still here fruit fly ?

gee bud

Sure am Buba

Gregory Romeu

So when you run out of ammo and need to swap parts to repair your rifle in the field what are you going to do? You think Bubba Gump’s Gun Stores are going to be open? Or that you might get lucky enough to be in the same Foxhole with armorer or gunsmith with all the tools necessary to get you up and going again? This is the biggest mistake of people that don’t know Jack squat about combat. New used firearms and ammunition that is interchangeable so in the field if your weapon is down you can grab another… Read more »

Gregory Romeu

Alright I’m tired and speech to text sucks I’m going to bed

Douglas McNeil

If the bulk of the shooting public voted as a block, rather than letting ourselves be divided by less fundamental issues, none of this would be happening. I’ve seen estimates of the number of guns in US civilian hands from 270 million to 310 million and the number of armed citizens from 75 million up to a third of our population. It’s smarter to fight this war at the ballot box than from some bunker somewhere

Clark Kent

‘Soap box, ballot box, cartridge box’ – Abraham Lincoln.

PA John

There is no need to imagine theoretical scenarios because we already have clear examples in recent history. Use Yahoo AND Google to search for “gun owners refuse to comply” and “police refuse to enforce” and especially “sheriffs refuse to enforce”, try variations of this theme as you read and learn, and be prepared to spend a fair amount of your time researching everything that comes up. A quick, partial review of what you will find: Connecticut. 350,000 – 400,000 PEOPLE, gun owners, would be affected by that state’s unconstitutional magazine ban / registration laws a few years back, and 85%… Read more »

Wild Bill

A little long John (no pun intended), but some outstanding observations. For example, “…The whole point of propaganda is to make those targeted feel all alone and overwhelmed and etc. The Grand Illusion that most people are liberals who agree with all of this PC nonsense is itself nothing more than that, a Grand Illusion.” The Clintoon campaign recently admitted to paying people (trolls) to go onto web sites, chat rooms, blogs etc and push back against conservative commenters, and make the situation look as if conservatives are isolated, minority, wackos. These people get paid per response, so they are… Read more »

Sedition

…The whole point of propaganda is to make those targeted feel all alone and overwhelmed and etc.

That’s the magic. Even a single lowly pawn, properly placed, can take out a king in chess.

Wild Bill

Well Sed (pun intended), succintly and cleanly stated, and a good analogy. Even the name says a lot.

gee bud

yeah it shows and sense of delusion for sure

Wild Bill

There you go again, gee dunk, Sedition has never written so much as one bad word to you, yet, you insult him. How will you ever convince anyone of the rightness of your cause (what ever it is), if all you do is insult people?

TEX

Bill,that gee dud is ate up with the dumbass. The punk won’t get out of his mommas basement !

gee bud

hmmm ” mommas basement” That would be a great code name for your hilarious bunkers you guys make that you think will protect you.
I hate to disappoint you texant but unlike you, your faux patriots and ISIS I do not hide behind women and children and tuff guy names, Deluded tards do that to cope with there insecurities. Wanna talk about your insecurities texant?

gee bud

Just trying to keep you corporate pawns in check lil bill

Gene Ralno

Great post. I’d add that part of the increased pressure and regulation is due to the fact that long ago, the Senate voted itself a new way of being re-elected. The effects are now becoming crystal clear. Senators now represent neither the states nor the people they represent. They represent the large population centers that elect them. And the re-election rate of 80-90 percent often is attributed to big media that also answers to the big cities. A return to the founders’ notion of senators being elected by state legislatures seems particularly prudent in view of the colossal damage inflicted… Read more »

Armed2BFree

Wild Bill, as you were saying, trolls are being paid to disrupt chat sights like this one. Have you ever considered that Gee Bud is one of them? He never brings up a good point or says anything of value; he just insults and messes with all of you. I have never visited this site before but reading down through the posts i can see what he is doing. I know it is hard to ignore a person that is insulting you but if you all did this to this guy he will grow tired of not being able to… Read more »

Wild Bill

Brother Armed, you give good advice and I am taking it!

TEX

and Armed,I’m taking that advice too ! Y’all take care !

VT Patriot

Who would have believed 10 (7??) years ago that there would be open conversations of revolution in these formerly great United States. But, it is happening. The old “United we Stand” motto was never more important than it is now. Remember the Bundy ranch episode. A large group of farmers, ranchers, and patriots stood the line and shutdown the attempted takeover of cattle grazing lands. Now, the corrupt pol’s are one by one going after to arrest the ranchers and their followers. This is getting worse by the day. And I can’t see it ending pretty. United we stand, divided… Read more »

gee bud

And how did that bird sactuary invasion work out for ya’ll.
Why didn’t all you armchair warriors come and support the corporate funded bundy back door plan to privatize public land?

Gregory Romeu

Because it wasn’t sanctioned and because there wasn’t a substantial and proper purpose supporting their decision to do what they did.

gee bud

Sanctioned.. ha ha ha That’s a new word for chicken chits that I haven’t come across yet.

Wild Bill

The man gives you more respect than you deserve, in the form of an honest answer, gee dunk, and all you can do is insult him. It appears that you owe GR an apology.

gee bud

Hey lil bill who died and made you king lunatic. You seem to think your above everyone and act like some sort of teacher and grand poo bah. But again and again I have proven you to be a hipokritacle lyer. last to words were just for your ego bill. Have ya self annointed yurself Ammoland sainthood or ar ya piad by one of the Koch suckers creyem family acontants?

Wild Bill

No one died, gee, I was commissioned by the President of the United States (not the current one). He gave me a title that I can still use pursuant to Federal law. And I have done a little teaching, everything from how to use a Claymore mine to the Law of Land Warfare. And you don’t even recognize when some one is being nice to you. From the way you write, even a street walker has more common courtesy toward others and respect for themselves than you have for yourself.

gee bud

Hey billy you were one of the first to disrespect me when I came here. I actually wanted to discuss the articles but all you circle jerks could do is make everything personal. So I’m down on your level giving ya’ll what you sow making my points one sarcastic remark after another hoping to possibly dissuade a fool or two from destroying his life and his families or lives of those of undeserving of your hate. I never thought men could be bigger drama queens than women but the GOP teanut patriot scam has proven otherwise. drama queen on boys,… Read more »

Wild Bill

I was the first one to disrespect you? Flatterer! Now, did that come before or after you insulting me? Search your memory, and be honest. I am sure that I can not take credit for it, but you invite it. I would be rude not to accept. Getting by all the ugly thoughts and vitriol of your last post. I will discuss the articles with you, but no more childish insults, shockingly poor logic, made up facts, personal prevarications, and please work on your punctuation so that we don’t misunderstand you. It is a high standard, but I think that… Read more »

Gregory Romeu

Wild Bill, there’s no sense in trying to reason with this man. He doesn’t have any respect for himself, let alone anybody else. He sits alone, without friends and grumbles at the world for the piss-poor decisions he made in his life to make him such a worthless waste of oxygen. Perhaps one day we will all hear the big, “POP” when he pulls his head out of his ass?

gee bud

Been there tried that on every article I visited but no one was capable of anything but personal attacks including yourself. Get this straight, Your not my teacher, You lost my respect after your first projection and attempt to belittle someone that has a different opinion. All your true colors pal are very easy to discern. If you Keep feeding the morons spin and Bullshit then don’t be a pansy when you end up reaping what you sow.

TEX

@Gee dud,disrespect a pissant like you ? Its impossible to disrespect a pissant like you ! LMFAO ! How about this..FU*CK YOU !

TEX

@gee bum,one other thing pissant. Bill gets respect because he deserves respect. Respect is something earned not just given. Plus,respect is never given to pissants that won’t vacate their mommas basement. I told you before that if you get off the drugs and focus on becoming a productive citizen there might be hope for you. I doubt it,but there might be. Remember,you’re the little engine that could !

gee bud

“Gee dud,disrespect a pissant like you ? Its impossible to disrespect a pissant like you ! ”

Well that almost makes sense, you mean You respect me texant? ahhhh ur sweeeeet how about this..FU*ck Y0u and everybody that looks and acts like you!

Wild Bill

Well, I tried t hold out the olive branch. I am disappointed that you took the easy way out. Two final things: I grew up in the military where swearing and insults are an art form. I’ve been berated by the best. None of your insults have been remotely interesting, much less hurtful. Finally, you could have learned a lot from the men and women that converse here, if you would have had even a modicum of respect for your self. And I would have been happy to help you overcome your many deficiencies. Well, that is it. Good bye,… Read more »

TEX

Pissant,like Bill, after this no more contact with you. You’re a pissant and a moron ! They sent you to school to learn and you ate the covers off the books ! Remember get out of your mommas basement and quit being a pissant. You’re the little engine that could !

Rich

If we take Michael Bloomberg alive let’s put him in a cage with Rhonda Rousey.

gee bud

That be cool with us, will give ya that one as long as we get tickets too. Plan that when your crying for your first cease fire agreement meeting. 🙂

Gene Ralno

I’m now a big fan of Jim & Mary Clary. I read a lot and don’t remember authors’ names but I’ll remember these two. I believe the AR-15 phenomenon is due precisely because it serves as an excellent means of self protection in the home AND alongside 75 million other owners of such firearms, they’ll serve nicely in the field. I doubt that they’ll ever be used on a wide scale because as a Veteran from 60 years ago, I don’t believe our military forces will allow themselves to be deployed against the people they vowed to protect. If they’re… Read more »

TEX

,that’s way too much for a Glock 19 Gen 4 ! One of my AR10’s is DPMS and they are really nice and dependable too. Im not familiar with the Oracle but DPMS makes really solid stuff.

Gene Ralno

Thanks. I suspected that but have just started looking. I plan to visit a gun show weekend after next and compare some prices.

Gregory Romeu

Just remember don’t try to take down a large-caliber man with a small caliber round.

And it’s best to use the same caliber of what’s coming at you, that way you can always pick up theirs and use it.

TEX

,one last thing. Check out prices Buds Guns and Gunbroker for the firearms you are looking for. It’s been my experience that they usually have the best prices. Take care.

gee bud

our propaganda sells lots of guns, I laugh to bank in my Maserati. he he he

Gregory Romeu

Gene, the United States Marine Corps has been doing two things professionally since 1775 and that is killing people and blowing shit up. Sn, being a Marine and knowing this information to be true fact, I tend to agree with the professional baseline. just use whatever your typical US Marine grunt uses… A .45 Colt 1911A1 ( or Springfield Armory or Rock Island) and an AR-15 in 5.56 / .223 unless you want to go longer range then go for a Remington 700 SPS in 7.62/308 cal and even longer range would be your 338 Lapua. If you build up… Read more »

Thom Paine

We the people are keeping lists now too. Bank on that.

hantayo

Do not rule out the “lone wolf” factor. There are tens of thousands of older Vietnam era vets like me that intend on killing at least one progressive SOB before entering Valhalla.

gee bud

Congadulations hanna you just made the terror watch list! lol

Wild Bill

Apparently gee dunk can neither spell nor read as there is no “d” in congratulations, but there is a “t” in hantayo, thus the abbreviation would be hanta not hanna. I am sure that hantayo cares as little for the government’s list as I do.

gee bud

You git yur undies in bundle so easy lill’ bill may be ya shud ask ur docter fer some chill pills

gee bud

Aparintly lil bill you have the same problum as me. gee dunk is a long way from gee bud. So do you blaim yur ignerence on bad I sight er poor schoolin? Here I waz thunking evry 1 hear gets ta change othir pepils stage naims hear jest fur fun and sence hanta yo seams aniethin butt native amuricin I just thunked a gurls naim liek Hanna suited bedder then a grayt book like hanta yo, specshally when she mentsunz a acient myhology place liek valhala. Wie ya’ll u nut jobs liek livin in histery an fanisy an halve tuff… Read more »

hantayo

I’ve probably been on it for years, and if you are reading these posts, you are too. Keep in mind under prince Obama, any one of us can be listed on the whelm of any of his cabinet.

TEX

@hantayo,forget the little pissant gee bum. His mother can’t get the pissant out of her basement and the pissant uses way too much dope.

gee bud

dope may help your delusion tex as it is getting rave reviews from the ptsd crowds.

Pappy

I think we should make it very clear that push come to shove we will target the people responsible for this effort to deny us our God given rights. Hunt them down like the pigs they are, then follow the old French exampl.

Thomas Townsend

Together we stand. Divided we fall.
Can we really expect a diverse group of non combat trained gun owners to come together, cooperate, coordinate, communicate and organize into an effective fighting contingent of Warriors??
I sure as hell hope so. If you do, there is no way they will take your right to self defense from us.
There is no lack of tactically trained talent.
All we need is the WILL to fight. I predict our local law enforcement officers will stand with us.
The fact that we stand together may be all that’s required!

Travel safe.

italian stallion

According to the US Constitution every community is suppose to have a local militia that trains regularly. I watched NCIS New Orleans once and they made local militias look like a radical terrorist group. Its called brainwashing the public to fit their agenda. The government is not our friend and that’s why the founding fathers put in the second amendment to keep the government in line but they want to take that away also.

hantayo

Stallion, I know you are aware that any militia begins with the first man. The recent terrorist activity occurring around the world proves that the best local militia might be the Patriot oriented “lone wolf sleeper cell”. Such sleeper cells of one can be very effective, as they can not be detected before an action occurs. I am certain there are many lone wolves out there watching current events. If the SHTF becomes imminent they will go after their target.

eaglesnester

I suspect that the targets will be the very politicians that wrote the gun grabbing laws. These poor misinformed people have no skin in the game. They stand for nothing and have no resolve. They are unable to believe that the average gun owner will take up arms against them. Mike Vanderbough wrote up a list of the gun grabbing politicians in Connecticut that voted for outlawing magazines over 10 rounds and any gun that looked like a military pattern rifle,. complete with home address, and phone numbers and published this information on the internet. The gun grabbing politicians did… Read more »

Wild Bill

Well, Thomas, a logistical system that would support a ” fighting contingent of Warriors” is necessary or they won’t be effective for long. Rations, water, or munitions run out, and three days later it is all over. [Author’s note: Nine tenths of every army ever defeated were cut off from their logistical support. McArthur.]

Jim K.

That would still result in blood spilled on the side of the aggressors. I carry in church. So do most of the folks I know. It’s STILL going to happen, but hopefully it will happen AFTER the Rapture of Christianity. Thomas Townsend: That’s why God created the Green Berets. I know that THEY will stand by the original intent of the Constitution. I’m a Vet. Former Infantry Captain. I’m not alone. Therefore, neither are you. We veterans know what to do and how to do it. Just be ready to sacrifice to the same degree as George Washington and his… Read more »

Mark Dorsey

Many of us a very well trained,Blackhawk down comes to mind,very unorganized group brought hell down on our men.

Gregory Romeu

Thoes guy’s wearing black pajamas in Vietnam didn’t do too bad either, however you must remember that the ROE in both situations, both Black Hawk Down and Vietnam were politically and financialy based whereas if anything breaks loose here in the United States there won’t be an ROE.

Wild Bill

JK, I applaud your enthusiasm, but skipping down to “Former Infantry Captain”: Whatever your plan is, Captain, we will need logistics. And look who we will be up against. In fact, if you go through the OPORD (five paragraph field order for our Marine friends), you may want to reevaluate.

Gregory Romeu

Let’s put it this way,, with 22 + million veterans, many of them with fresh combat experience in this country, I’m pretty sure that the untrained gun owners don’t want to take up arms to protect and defend the Constitution by getting in the way and tripping over all of the trained military veterans and prior service law enforcement personnel and will most likely fall in formation behind the properly trained military and prior law enforcement personnel and take orders and be trained up to speed as a private in boot camp until they are properly trained then assigned a… Read more »

italian stallion

It would be more like a Revolution than a Civil War. This is the citizens against a tyrannical government. That’s what started the Revolution when the British went to confiscate the Colonialist arms. It will happen again only worse bloodshed unfortunately. On the other hand I wonder if this is just a method of making money for Bloomberg and the Clintons. From what info I got the Clintons have stock in Ruger Arms and I wouldn’t doubt Bloomberg also plus ammunition. When there is talk of gun control people run like mad to buy guns and ammo, the stocks in… Read more »

David C. Telliho

Would be a civil war, a revolution, a war with non-citizen groups, a war with looter countries like those S. of us and middle east. No doubt Russia and Cuba would go after a piece of the pie. Our resources have been put on hold or severely restricted. Saved for whom? Other countries care less about the environment, I’m quite sure our Government really doesn`t care either. Also, we have foreign troops here already. Not sure, but I think we would have at least 5 fronts. I`m pissed our so called leaders have put us in this position. To the… Read more »

Phil

to risky for the government to do that, once known after the first few attempts then all will break lose and the feds will be set up along with the state and dumb ass local[police and they will be slaughtered.

Wolfram

Don’t forget Oathkeepers and hundreds of county sheriffs and deputies and stalwart governors like Gregg Abbott of Texas and Doug Ducey of AZ who will call out the guard to stand with patriots.

gee bud

Ha Ha ha your wishful thinking is called delusion.

TEX

Gov.Abbott,a proud White Man who will take care of business and take care of the citizens of Texas ! There won’t be any tyrannical BS happening here. Abbott swore an oath to protect the citizens of Texas and the constitution and that oath means something to him ! Texas is the perfect location to be if sh*it hits the fan ! NATIVE TEXAN,NATIVE PROUD ! …..’TEXAS,LIKE A WHOLE OTHER COUNTRY’ !

gee bud

Hey texant Yur not a native American your an evasive species. Yur gonna shit yur pants the day texas turns blue….

Gregory Romeu

The man stated, “NATIVE TEXAN” there is a difference. There is a BIG difference. Now I’m not a native Texan but I got here as soon as I could! (1985)
Semper Fidelis!

DFWguy

A clear-eyed assessment may be in order here. 100 million citizens who are mostly strangers to one another doesn’t make a coherent force. Expecting each of them to be equally ready to shoot back is not IMHO realistic. And the regime has the US Air Force and (at least the command structure and equipment of) the US Army. And the drones, with their HELLFIRE missiles. And snitches, probably in every neighborhood. The survivors in north Waziristan and Yemen could tell you not to call any large meetings – they’re militarily attractive. So, saber rattling isn’t liable to end well, if… Read more »

Rick Johnson

I am a 20 year military veteran who still has contacts in High places on active duty. I have asked military officers and senior enlisted what would happen if the order came to turn on the American people. Each said the order would be refused.

However, when you ask the younger military members, you get a different reaction. Remember, the youth of today have a piss poor education and very little understanding of the Constitution. (take a look at the Sanders campaign)

Another generation of military members will pass and then they can and will be used on the citizens.

gee bud

If you get wackos firing on government institutions and representatives all bets are off and the government will respond with any and all means necessary to take out the idiots.

TEX

gee bum,you still here ?

Gregory Romeu

Gee. Bud, I’m pretty sure we’ll even be able to find a set of big boy pants to fit you someday

gee bud

Big boy pants on clearance at Walmart! Hey romeo I don’t have to shop in your Obese wardrobe department because I don’t eat the BS like ya’ll do.

SK

Our high tech war with the poor Vietnamese didn’t turn out so well. Hit and run strategy. Grab them by the belt buckle.
I think most people will turn in their weapons and stay with their families. Most people don’t really have the heart for it.

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