The Dogs of War Are Close ~ American Spring

by Dr. Jim and Mary Clary

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USA –  -(Ammoland.com)- I think it is about time that we speak up and say in public what millions of Americans are already thinking.

If politicians (like Newsom in CA) or the paid lackeys from the Bloomberg/Soros camps, think that the majority of Americans are willing to give up their guns like the Australians, they are dead wrong.

I will state here and now, for the record, if these demented individuals succeed in passing laws to severely restrict, ban and ultimately confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens:

THERE WILL BE BLOOD. Their laws will turn lawful citizens into criminals due to the possession of what were once legal firearms … THEY WILL NOT TURN THEM IN!

If federal, state or local agents are dumb enough to come and attempt to take them….. there will be more bloodshed than at Gettysburg. We are not talking about the so-called militia guys or gun fanatics…. we are talking about regular, working class Americans who cherish their Constitutional rights…

They will take up arms, just as they did many years ago to protect those rights….and it will be the beginning of the second American Civil War.

For those ignorant progressive/socialists who believe that it could never happen here, I would like to remind you that your communist brethren in Yugoslavia did not believe it either. Civil Wars are happening all over the world… Syria, Libya, Egypt and not many years ago, Iran. Do you honestly believe that the U.S. is exempt?

There are over 100 million firearms in the possession of law abiding American citizens…. and thanks to Obama, there are more AR platform rifles in private hands than anyone ever imagined prior to his election. Collectively those Americans outnumber all of the military/police personnel by over 50 to one, and they possess more ammunition that the U.S. Army has in all of their arms depots.

The progressive and liberal anti-gunners need to face facts….. you can't close the barn door after the horses are out……. the horses (firearms) are out, and they are never going back. The United States is not Australia or the United Kingdom.

The only thing that any reasonable individual can expect is to enforce the laws already on the books and punish the criminals who commit crimes with their illegal weapons. If the progressives and liberals are actually ignorant enough to believe that they can legislate away our 2nd Amendment rights, they are mistaken (and that includes the lame-duck's executive orders).

This country has already become deeply divided by a president that considers our constitution a “flawed document”…. all that is needed is one more “straw” to push us into an American Spring. And, if that happens, the next civil war will not be North against South, it will be Patriotic Americans against the Unpatriotic Progressive Socialists.

With all of the above said, we implore the Bloombergs, Bradys, Clintons, and yes, even Obama….. do not push the country into another civil war.

We realize those of you who are progressives, liberals and socialists don't believe that such a thing is possible; but remember, neither did Czar Nicholas of Russia.

Jim Clary
Jim Clary

A final note, John Hopkins researchers just published the results of their study on deaths due to medical errors in the United States. If you add up all of the deaths due to firearms, suicides and car accidents and doubled that number, it would not equal the deaths due to medical errors —- 251,454. Deaths due to medical errors is now the third leading cause of death in the U.S. behind heart disease and cancer.

Our question is….. “Why don't the progressive/liberal elites address that problem instead of making up stuff about gun owners and firearms?”

 

About Jim and Mary Clary:

Jim and Mary Clary have co-authored over three hundred and fifty articles, (and counting) on shooting and hunting. You can read many of them on AmmoLand News.

268 thoughts on “The Dogs of War Are Close ~ American Spring

  1. I’m new to this website but I’m a Patriot /Christian through and through and I’m happy that I can voice my opinions. In my opinion all the talk about Democrat vs Republican is educational but I believe it’s more than that. I believe this is about Pagan religion vs Christianity. Almost 500,000 Christians have been sacrificed, beheadings, body mutilations, and raping according to pagan sacrificial doctrine, all of this is documented and on film but will not make it to mainstream media. Mainstream media wants you to think its the cartel and is killing their rivals. For Mexico its the return of the acient Aztec religion and is now called Mesoamerica. Mainstream media is controlled by Ted Turner and he is one of the main guys in the Illuminati. These satanic rituals are happening all over the world and both parties higher ups are either involved or know about it. Isis is doing the same this according to their religian and in some cases eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christians. The info is there you just have to look for it and start at page 10. First few pages are controlled by Gates.
    I believe John Boehner got out, couldn’t watch it anymore drinking himself to death over it. If you recall he called Cruz lucifer in desguise. All of this points to the Illuminati that has infiltrated all governments except for a few yet. This is the battle between good and evil, God and lucifer.

  2. Especially what with Gee Crud’s official title and pay grade being ,”Bitch in the Barrel” and G.S. Zero. Looks like I’ve missed some fun here . But no signal where I’ve been . 🙂

  3. My position remains unchanged regarding my prior posts. Your name calling is your right. I take no offense from it at all. However please put electrical tape over your Skype lens and turn off the microphone! Again, thanks for your cooperation pertaining to your “government” computer which you are using for personal use. JOSEPHINE

      1. It is. Thought it wise to remind “BUD” of that. I KNOW THAT ALL THE REGULARS ON HERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE. ANYONE READING THE POSTS CAN ALSO ASCERTAIN THAT US REGULARS ALL COME FROM VERY DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS AND THAT IS A GOOD THING! I LEARN A LOT FROM ALL OF YOU!!!! DESPITE OUR VARYING BACKGROUNDS AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE ALL AMERICANS. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER CAME HERE ON A SHIP AND FUNNELED THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND IN 1902 AS A TEENAGER!! ALL OF MY MALE PREDECESSORS, INCLUDING MYSELF, FOUGHT IN A WAR TO KEEP OUR WAY OF LIFE INTACT. I KNOW MANY OF THE REGULARS HERE SERVED OUR COUNTRY AND THE OTHER REGULARS ARE PATRIOTS THRU AND THRU. ALL OF US HATE SEEING OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WISDOM TOSSED OUT THE WINDOW LIKE A BUBBLE GUM WRAPPER!! I TRULY RESPECT 99.9% OF ALL WHO POST HERE BECAUSE, IF NOTHING ELSE, IT SHOWS THEY ARE ENGAGED, IN SOME FASHION, IN SHAPING THE FUTURE OF THIS EXCEPTIONAL COUNTRY. EVEN “BUD” HAS TAUGHT ALL OF US SOMETHING: HE REMINDS ALL OF US THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD, IF THEY COULD, WIPE THEIR A$$ WITH THE CONSTITUTION!

        IN A WAY, I RESPECT HIM FOR REMINDING ME THAT THE “BUDS” OF THE WORLD ARE OUT THERE. IF THEY CANT WIN IN THE THEATRE OF IDEAS, LOGIC AND RATIONAL DIALOGUE THEN THEIR PLAN B IS PERSONAL ATTACKS THAT HAVE NO BASIS IN FACT. IM GRATEFUL FOR HIS REMINDER TO ME OF THIS.

        I DONT POST VERY MUCH BECAUSE I LEARN MORE FROM READING POSTS FROM WILD BILL, TEX, PAINE, DOC AND MANY OTHERS! I PLAN ON POSTING MORE BUT LASTLY JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO ALL THE POSTERS HERE. EVEN THE ONES I MAY DISAGREE WITH!!!!!! THANK YOU ALL AND IF WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR OUR CONSTITUTION, COUNT ME IN PLEASE!!! JOSEY OR JOSEPHINE AS “BUD” CALLS ME

        1. JW, the thing that gee dunk taught me is that some people can not be taught. But you, JW, are always welcome in my neck of the woods.

        2. Dang.. learning from a bunch of delusional washed up old men and indoctrinated young gamers, Just the kind of education the GOP crime family likes their little BS eaters to have. Keep them dumb subservient and hope they die young . Perfect little corporate tools ya’ll are.

      2. Now why would I use a gumbmint computer for personal use? what’s up lil bill your abreveateing agan to lazy ta spel ? That’s despicabel.

    1. Sorry franky your just fling’in arrows then trying to paint bulls eyes around them, No camera no mic your batting zero pal. Stick to anarchy.. oh wait you suck at that too.

  4. I NEED TO SAY NO MORE. HES NOT EVEN AWARE I ALREADY PLANTED A “DOORWAY” IN HIS DEVICES THAT ALLOWS ONLY ME TO OPEN. HIS SECURITY DIDNT EVEN FLAG IT SO I KNOW IT DID A “DNA” PLANT. ALL THE SCANNING COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE WONT FIND THE “DOOR” ALL I ASK OF YOU “BUD” (NOT GONNA USE HIS FIRST NAME) IS THAT, GOING FORWARD, ADD TO THE POST IN A MANNER THAT CONTRIBUTES IN A SEMI-NORMAL FASHION. I WOULD DIE FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK BUT THROWING OUT GRENADES IN THE MIDDLE OF A GOOD THREAD IS YELLING “FIRE” IN A CROWDED THEATER. NONE OF US HERE HAVE TO AGREE WITH HIM. THATS HIS RIGHT BUT BE MATURE ENOUGH TO MAKE SENSE AND STAY ON TOPIC WITHIN REASON. NO MORE NO LESS. FOR NOW I JUST WANT TO ENJOY THE APPLICABLE POSTS. FAIR WARNING HAS BEEN GIVEN. “BUD” YOUVE TURNED ME FROM HUNTED INTO HUNTER. SO ACT YOUR AGE NOT YOUR SHOE SIZE. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORKING ON YOUR PEOPLE SKILLS. THANKS IN ADVANCE! JOSEY WALES

    1. JW, you are a really fair person. If you ever need a place to stay while vacationing in E. Texas, just let me know.

      1. U guys coud hav a cercle jerk wit out skype! Stil no disgusshinn on the BS treesoniss artical huh lil bill?

    2. Have you noticed gee dud has real problems with sentence structure ? This pissant went to school to learn and he ate the covers off the books.His momma has decided to have this little pissant evicted from her basement ! He won’t leave her basement voluntarily ! He is a pervert that targets little boys. We all know what happens to pedophile perverts when they get to prison !

  5. Lol. You’re ignorance is exceeded only by the sexual pleasure you get from teenage boys! Here’s the really funny part Bud, I’m a highly highly highly paid computer hacker. I could infiltrate, obliterate and install a virus in your system in less than the time it takes for you to look at another Tiger Beat magazine!!! Did you ever f#ck with someone you wish shouldn’t have? That’s me! Keep posting. I already got your IP address. The more you post, the more I know. Want proof of how quickly I can f#ck your life up? You’re hard drive in you’re system is built by Toshiba although your system says AMD!!!! Check my info……Amazing isn’t it! I can shut your drive and modem down even with you’re Norton security. How could he know you ask yourself? I’m already in your system. I can, at this very moment, publicly release your full name “Bud” but I have better ethics. Keep fuc#king posting so I can garner more info. PLEASE KEEP POSTING!!!! Oh lastly, you have some pornography on your hard drive that just came up….. SCARRY THAT I CAN LEARN ALL THIS IN THE TIME IT TOOK ME TO WRITE THIS POST..

    1. @Josey Wales,I think you got gee duds attention ! I think about right now he is cleaning his pants ! LMFAO ! Take care !

      1. Sorry your nutjob pal ted nugent has the shitty britches title. Dang ..Fred Bear must be rolling over in his grave.

        1. gee dud,come to Teds place outside Waco,TX with me sometime pissant. He’s a Yankee but one of the best dudes I’ve ever known,….unless you piss him off ! I will arrange a stalk hunting trip out there ! YOU’RE INVITED TOO GEE DUD !

          1. I don’t know Tex…the Nuge might whack him and take him to the taxidermy man. I can see the sign under him now: Yankee Gee Dunkus (that is latin for a noxious varmint species)!

    2. Eat me Josephine . Your not even close you wacko. I never met a bigger bunch of morons than you tards. Keep it coming your the ones digging your ditches deeper. You can’t discuss the articles and when I continue to prove you eat BS then you move to threats, typical of mentally ill people. With mentalities like you guys have no wonder your worried about your gun rights.

        1. Josephine in even dumber than you texant. I didn’t think that could even be possible. Think about this…. a hacker that tells you he hacked you ? Fuc’in hilarious! Josephine hasn’t got one thing right yet. Bots are the bomb. And all you morons think I’m a dude…he he Maybe I’m a transvestite ha ha ha Are all ya morons homophobes too?

  6. “BUD” your anti-spyware is two generations old!!!! Better update it now. I got some pictures of you and a woman standing together! All too easy to get into the two and possibly a third computer that is shut off or the Android and IPhone you have in your domicile. Why do I do this to you? SIMPLE: YOU HAVE THE RIGHT POST HERE JUST LIKE ALL OF US. I FOUGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM TO DO SO!!! YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO AGREE/DISAGREE. I RESPECT OPPOSING OPINIONS THATS WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON!!! HOWEVER, WHENEVER IM FOLLOWING AN INTERESTING THREAD SURE AS SH#T YOU LOB A INCINDIARY GRENADE AND ALL OF THE COMMENTS THEREAFTER ARE GEARED TOWARDS YOU, THUS MESSING UP A PERFECTLY GOOD THREAD FOR ME. OPPOSING VIEWS ARE GREAT AND SOMETIMES I LEARN FROM THEM, HOWEVER, IN RETROSPECT, YOUR NOT CONTRIBUTING AT ALL; JUST SPRAY AND PRAY METHOD OF COMMENTARY. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH POSTS FINE! I WILL DEMAND JUST ONE THING FROM YOU OR I WILL INSTALL A VIRUS SO BAD IN ALL THREE OF YOU RE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CARBON AND SILICON BASED MACHINERY YOU WILL HAVE TO USE A SLATE AND CHISEL TO POST: NO MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY ONE OR I GIVE OUT YOUR PERSONAL EMAI, PICTURES, AND ANY INFO I DEEM FIT WITHOUT BREAKING THE LAW. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME I CAN POST A PICTURE OF YOU ON THIS FORUM. NO MORE STUPID GRENADES OR I EMBARRASS THE SH!T OUT OF YOU! IM TRYING TO COME TO A TRUCE WITH YOU OR YOU SHOULD START SAVING FOR NEW COMPUTERS.THIS IS AMERICA AND YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF HOW I PROCEED. JOSEY

    1. Make my Day tardo let everyone see my pic. All hat no cattle just like the rest of the morons here. Did you know it’s a crime to hack government computers and personal computers ? so your a criminal Josephine?

      1. I would back off if I were you.
        I’m in Cyber Security. There are many ways to erase tracks and misdirect trails, so a good “hacker” can be be nearly impossible to find if he’s careful.
        If he has as much knowledge of your systems as I think he does, believe me…he can make many years of your life a living hell-on-earth.
        Welcome to the digital world.

      2. I would let it drop if I were you.
        I’m in Cyber Secirity. Someone who knows what they’re doing can easily erase their tracks, spoof MAC and IP addys, and lead you down false trails and trail loops.
        If he knows as much about your systems as I suspect he does, he can make the next few years of your life a living hell-on-earth.
        Let it be.
        And welcome to the digital world.

        ps. Don’t look too hard for LEO and FED investigations to be too successful. Their own cyber defenses are woefully pathetic in many areas…especially in social engineering.

    2. Go for it Josey. Never heard of this moron before this article, and now he’s become a nightmare. I’d love to pester him the same as he pesters everyone on this site. I also wish the mods would ban his worthless rambllings on this site.

    3. Josey! Where the hell have you been hiding? Haven’t seen you in a long time! As for dropping rain on the pissant? FIRE MISSION!

      1. I would not worry about gee dunk complaining to any police agency (state or federal). If he draws too much attention to himself, he might just get himself deported back to where ever he is really from.

        1. A bit of checking and we found that Gee Bud isn’t even an American. He is a black Brit, living near Birmingham, England… having migrated there from Somalia. All of which explains his poor sentence structure and lack of understanding of American society. Still checking, but indications are that he is a Muslim who is waiting for his “visa” to come to the United States…. enough said. Thank you Josey.

          1. he he he Must have franky behind the obama birther and the clinton email BS too. Gosh I have to send you morons bigger spoons so ya can dish out the BS faster and in bigger portions. When I picture you gullible bastards I see baby birds stretching their necks to get more worms.

  7. I have reached the point where I believe – firmly, that obama, Soros, Bloomberg and other global elitists are jamming these gun laws on us for the sole purpose of creating the American Spring that you speak of. I believe they WANT US TO REVOLT. These are people who view our country – and us, as the last big hurtle in there efforts and dreams of a true, “one world order.” They need us, out of the way to attain that.

    I can tell you right now that the vast majority of police will not confiscate citizens firearms. Cops love their personally owned firearms as much as anyone. Obama knows this, Soros knows this. That is why obama has spent his entire presidency so far gutting the military of anyone who swore to the oath they took – to replace them with people whose views of the world are more parallel to his. When the American Spring starts, a state of emergency, followed by Marshall Law will be put in effect – eforced by our military, many of whom have drank the kool-aid obama has been serving.

    It is going to get ugly my fellow patriots. We will have a choice, fight to remain citizens of the United States, or allow ourselves to become “Subjects” of the Federal Government of North America.”

    I, for one would rather die standing than live on my knees.

    1. Amen Stephen, and that is exactly what the trolls like GeeBud don’t recognize…. there are millions of veterans, from Vietnam to the Middle East who feel the same way. They are trained and know how to respond…. even the former dyke head of DHS (who later walked back her statement) recognized that that group was fully capable of taking over the country if provoked. They won’t be shooting cops or military, as most of the police and military will join them in getting rid of the garbage … and the folks like GeeBud will be the first to go. T

        1. It’s Dr. Jim to poorly educated types like you, GeeBud. You don’t do a bad job of pretending to be a gun owner, when your IP address and history clearly identify you as a poorly paid liberal troll who does his best to provoke others and call them names. Why don’t you go back to FOX and irritate them? You are done here…. everyone knows who and what you are.

          1. Your not getting my respect when you put crap like this out. And you couldn’t be farther from the truth with your BS projection crap. Your a washed up fraud maybe you and the Newdge can hang out on the dementia floor and crap your pants together. It’s instigators like you guys that give ammo to the anti 2nd amendment crowd but your too dumb to even realize your helping their cause and screwing us responsible gun owners and sportsman over.. I’ll call you Dr ….ha Dr terrorist maybe.

          2. While GeeBud was toking his joint, we left the US military in 1975 (as a Major) and joined the S.A. Koevoet, based out of Kavango. We had a lot of experience in dealing with kaffirs like GeeBud. When we were disbanded in 1989, I returned to the US with my wife (born in Southern Rhodesia.. now Zimbabwe). So, we do know a few things about military operations…. just a few.. I have no need or desire for your respect… I expect that you have the same disdain for me as I have for you.

          3. Hey jimmy did you ever get your honorable discharge reinstated or does the military still think you lost your marbles?

          4. “We had a lot of experience in dealing with kaffirs like GeeBud”

            Ya mind if I quote u on that Dr. bigot?

          5. My DD214 reads honorable discharge….what does yours say? Oh, that’s right, you don’t have one because you never served because your criminal background precluded your enlistment. I will leave you with that thought and turn you over to the tender mercies of Mr. Wales and Mr. Sedirion.

          6. @Dr.Jim Clary,gee dud was not only turned down by the USMC but told to just go away ! MCO P6100.12 series..gee dud had Bed-wetting (enuresis) and sleepwalking issues. But it gets better. gee duds mental evaluation had the shrink seeking a shrink. gee duds biggest problem right now is his refusal to move out of his mommas basement. The pissant has forced his momma to have him evicted by court order. gee dud is pleading insanity. Unbelievable but true ! This pissant is off the charts nuts ! He walks around the basement all night pissing all over himself. You still here gee dud ?

          7. Conveniently left out the rest of the story there jimmy or did you forget the rest of the story? As for Myself I’m still serving my country unlike you who is turning against it.

            “and turn you over to the tender mercies of Mr. Wales and Mr. Sedirion.”

            ahh and the gang mentality shines it’s ever lov’in light on me…la la la

            that’s right jimmy defend your base. The cross dressing criminal josephine and the World of Warcraft armchair warrior have yo back mon.. lol

          8. texant your beginning to sound like little marco with all the repetitious comments. Find some new material your same old stuff is getting boring man. I know eating BS has a tendency to make you regurgitate the same stuff over and over, Maybe you should step away from the BS buffet for a while and try exercise and a diet of fruits and vegetables. If that works for you and you don’t end up ruining the rest of your life in prison or live a life of anxiety and delusion you can thank me later son.

  8. Hey,Gee bug ,you be this first to come to my house OK I will give you f-ing bullets first!!!!! what a MORON

    1. Been to your house a few times already, Ask your girl , she’s the one who told me my bullet is bigger than yours so keep it. Your girl is not too bad though once you get past the used part.

    1. Not to offend works even better, but those ass-clowns in Washington have totally fouled all that up when they decided to join England and France carving up the rest of the planet like somehow they were entitled to do so.

  9. “and that includes the lame-duck’s” …

    I would like to call attention to what I believe is a misspelled word…
    I believe it should be an ” i ” instead of a ” u ” properly reading ” lame- d!ck”.

  10. I am so happy to see or hear the words and feelings that I have had in my own heart for years now. YES !! let them come, let they come for my guns,my liberty, if I die in my doorway, then let it said , she died for freedom, and she payed for it with not only her blood, but the blood of the tyrants that came for her liberty. You have already torn my country apart, tried to make me believe that everything I was taught as a child was wrong. I love my country, I fear my government. So YES, let them come, I am ready ! God bless America, and may God bless every patriot out there.

  11. Already active in The Armed Civil Disobedience of Non-Compliance, and my 100 Heads Life & Casualty policy is paid up.

    DEFY-DECEIVE-EVADE-RESIST-SMUGGLE-DEFEND

    Your move, tyrants.

  12. You missed one thing Obama is satan on earth and the Clinton’s,bloom bergs,soros’ feignseinsof the world are just worshipping his evilness at his feet! America is for Americans not these bloated parasites(maggots) First never ever trust a devilcrat and never, never ever give up your guns America or that would be the END of the USA. And the free world the devilcrats have long abandoned America for an evil communistic dream of total power! I for one am standing against them in every way for America. I have no guns to give up but plan on purchasing an armory for my very own pursuit of happiness with liberty, not under some power hungry devilcrat! If it comes to a revolution for right against wrong ,good vs evil I know what side I’ll proudly stand on, alongside the good Americans who cherish our real America now and always and have defended her in the past and will never stop doing so!

  13. I will not give up my guns or my freedom and I believe Bloomjerk and Obamjerk should have their armed security
    taken from them. The cowards want our guns but hide behind the protection of armed anti American traitors.
    Trust me, these gun grabbers are C O W A R D S !

    1. This is where you guys are delusional, For 60 plus years the GOP has been feeding you the BS to get votes. And still no one has grabbed your guns. The chicken little BS is really old and lame.

      1. All the politicians dish out lies, not just the Republican party. As far as the gun grabbing part: apparently you are to young to remember the Clinton gun ban. I remember being at the stop light of Venice Blvd and Santa Monica, When I heard a plain jane radio ad by the State of California telling people to turn in their so called “assault rifles” or transport them out of the state. And then in the wake of hurricane Katrina, the Louisiana National Guard and local police went from house to house confiscating firearms. So, yes, there are two recent examples of gun grabbing occurring in the U.S. Although, when I was a youth, the concept of government treating its own citizens in this manner was inconceivable.

          1. Everything I say is based in deductive reasoning and facts, If you bone heads would understand that instead of using inductive reasoning aka feeding on BS, we wouldn’t be having this playground chat right now.

        1. Wild Bill, don’t watse anymore of your time on this POS. There is absolkutley NO getting through this mutton head… He is totally illitearate to anything that deals with common sense or rationale and his only goal is to disrupt and waste OUR resources of time and intelligence.

        2. Wild Bill, don’t watse anymore of your time on this POS. There is absolkutley NO getting through this mutton head… He is totally illitearate to anything that deals with common sense or rationale and his only goal is to disrupt and waste OUR resources of time and intelligence.

        3. Bill,I thought we were going to disregard gee dud and not respond to the moron ! You’re right about it being very difficult not to. I still don’t think the useless punk ever moved out of his mommas basement. I tried my best to explain to gee dud that he needs to quit fighting those mental health issues he has and get some help. He is one of those fools that you send to school to learn and he eats the covers off the books.

          1. Tex and GR, I think I’m a gee dunk addict! I’m looking for a twelve step program in the yellow pages!

          2. Sheeeet….You morons haven’t had your blood pressure rise this much since your bird sanctuary invasion. And Ammoland set a record for posts on a propaganda piece. Sheeeet …Ammoland should put me on the dole cause the corporate add dudes are loving it. We’re lov’in it too cause all ya got ta do is spell a wird wrong and the A-holes come out the woodwork. You sucker way to eazy boyz

  14. That’s a nice patriotic thought and, admittedly, some will take up arms but, as we have seen in CA and NY, when you go about this in small, creeping incrementalism, people get used to it and then WHAM, all of a sudden it’s too late. There will be lots of bluster and plenty of key board warriors but when the armored cars and battering rams start coming door to door the majority will fold.

    The youngsters and middle age businessmen with families won’t risk death to themselves or their families. The only ones left, willing to give up everything (and I admit there will be some exceptions to the aforementioned classes) will be the older generation, of which I am a charter member, who have nothing to lose, who remember, tearfully, what freedoms we had and now have lost over the past 70 years.

  15. You guys and gals may think that you are brave patriots. Some of you are. All may be brave.
    But Patriots do not threaten revolution or civil war. Our nation is great, but talk of killing law enforcement and military personnel while speaking of armed insurrection is not to the benefit of our nation or of yourselves.

    1. Hi John nice to hear from someone who is sane. I was beginning to think there were no such persons here at ammoland

          1. Jail? What brought that up? Another wild gee dunk imagining! Jail for an expression of free speech? Is that the liberal answer for something that you do not like to read? You feel that you can write anything you want, but your opponents deserve jail? Oh, how society has failed you?

          2. You also don’t know the limits of your free speech. Keep making the threats against your government and fellow citizens and you’ll more than likely find out what many others have found out. Petitioning does not equal threats lill’ bill.

          3. I have never made a threat against any of the various governments or any person, gee dunk. I know that one thing not protected by free speech, gee dunk, liable. Liable is when you broadcast, in writing, something that is not true about someone. For example: stating, in writing that someone the government when that never occurred is liable. Nor is the First Amendment limited to petitioning. I am pretty sure that I have forgotten more about the First Amendment than you will ever know.

          4. gee dunk, you are changing your argument, which shows the untenability of your original allegations. You have unknowingly lost your debate. A novice’s error.
            Conspiracy requires an overt act. As to instigate, to which federal statute are you referring?

          5. I lost nothing who made you judge?
            First of all I never said The first was limited to petitioning
            You delusional people think by putting words in other peoples mouths wins a debate?
            Ok mr gramar king explain your word salad you sound like Sarah Palins speech writer……”example: stating, in writing that someone the government when that never occurred is liable.” oooowa that is well …almost understandable. And how about this masterful punctuation and grammar wizardry. ” I know that one thing not protected by free speech, gee dunk, liable.” Another example of your wondrous grasp of writing? Like reaping what you sow lil’ bill?

  16. Frankly, I’m a little shocked that AmmoLand would print an article like this. Not only does it stir up emotions, to no good purpose, but it could encourage some, who are roused by it to extreme, even violent actions.
    The simple fact is that the Gun Banners are smarter then us.
    Every year many new Anti Gun Bills, Taxes, and Regulations are proposed all around this Nation. We rush around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to knock them down. And for every ten anti gun efforts attempted, we manage to beat back eight, or nine of them. This means that each year some percentage get through to become law.
    Over time we’ll see the cumulative affect as the number of anti gun successes accumulate year by year.
    The anti gunners are in it not just for the long tern, but for the very long term. They are willing to wait a hundred years if that’s what it takes to achieve a virtually gun free America.
    Do you think they are stupid? They not only know that a percentage of gun owners will refuse to register, and then turn in all of their guns, they have statistical estimates of how many “gray guns” will still be out there.
    They see guns as falling into 3 categories. White guns (guns legally owned), Black guns (guns held by criminals), and gray guns, which are guns illegally held by generally law abiding citizens. Their objective is to remove as many guns as possible from our society through “buy backs”, and confiscations, and to turn the rest into gray guns. A gray gun, is a hidden gun. It’s a gun that’s likely going to be hidden in the rafters of a garage, or buried in the garden. These are guns which will become useless for their intended purpose because they are out of reach. To use a gray gun, is to risk arrest and imprisonment. To tell someone that you have a gray gun is the same.
    In time, as people with gray guns age, and die, many gray guns will just be left to rust away, or will be turned in by family who find them, and who fear arrest. As the decades pass there will be fewer, and fewer of them. The same is true for “black guns”. In a hundred years the desired effect of a nearly gun free America will be achieved.
    What we better be doing is thinking of ways to undermine this strategy so that It can never work. And no, the Heller Decision is not the answer. The Gun Banners see Heller as no more than a pebble in the road, to be kicked aside when they have a majority in the Supreme Court.
    All this talk about violence is not only dangerous, it distracts us and drains energy which can be put to much better use finding lawful creative solutions. Why was there such an uproar over the idea of computer printed guns? If anyone could simply use a 3d printer to manufacture a serviceable firearm, any time they want one, it blows the hell out of the above described strategy. These kinds of ideas, and inventions are the only real chance we have to win in this long struggle. I suggest we all forget about stuff like is in the above article and get busy with the real task before us..

    1. Printing an article like this is just part of the free market place of ideas. And I appreciate your thoughtful commentary.

      1. Articles like this could be written by FBI operatives to flush out you terrorists. You dumb asses make their job easy.

  17. ALWAYS GIVE THEM THE AMMO FIRST ! THE SON OF A BIT*CHES KNOW THEY WILL NEVER GET OUR FIREARMS ! THEY CAN TRY AND DIE ! LOCK AND LOAD,ITS ON !

      1. Well, gee dunk, I don’t want to discourage your attendance here, but if “… I just figured out you can’t have any intelligent conversation with delusional tards like you guys here.” is the way you feel, then what is the point?
        Now, don’t take this personally, but “…you can’t have any intelligent … with …tards like you…” evidences an incredible lack of knowledge about the English language.

        1. I gave up on the intelligent conversation the first week here because none of you are capable of it or tolerant of any views that do not align with your supremacist gang mentalities. I just decided to come down to your level and give you what you sow. It appears now your comprehension levels can understand my dissenting charm and opinions.

          1. Down to my level? That is the thanks that I get for trying to help you with the facts, general logic, and use of the English language? For example gb: “It appears now your comprehension levels can understand my dissenting charm and opinions.” That is not English. It is babble using English words.

          2. See… as soon as I increase the comprehension level of my writing ya’ll start failing miserably. I’ll try harder to write so it’s on par with your skill level billy

  18. BIG DONALD TRUMP WILL BE PRESIDENT IN LESS THAN A YEAR ! AMERICA WILL SOON BE THE AMERICA WE WILL RESPECT AGAIN STARTING BY RUNNING THE SOCIALISTS OUT OF IT ! NO DAMAGE THAT HUSSEIN OBANANA HAS DONE CANT BE REPEALED OR OVERTURNED,AND IT WILL BE ! DAMN IT WILL BE SO FINE !

  19. + Gee Dud , So here’s to laughing at you kid ! 🙂 You are so brainwashed and deluded I’m sure you think everything is just great . But some of us pay attention. It would behoove you to start doing the same. If that it you can break away from your crack pipe.

    1. Because you guys live in delusional fear everyday and eat corporate BS on a daily basis doesn’t mean everyone has to.

      1. Yeah, it scares me, too. Look at how well the federal government took care of the native Americans, the mustangs, and our vets that need health care, among other things.

        You know gee dunk brings up some more wrong headed logic that is interesting to analyze, for example: “If it wasn’t for imagration you wouldn’t exist.” Even the most cursory of examination; adopting, for the sake of argument, gee dunk’s implied argument, his statement is obviously wrong. How does he know whether or not I am part native American? In the alternative, if it wasn’t for immigration, I may not be here, but I would, in all likelihood, exist.

        1. I think that gee dunk is getting lazy. He no longer even constructs an argument (that takes time, effort, and thought). Now, he only implies an argument, and wants us to fill in the blank spaces. For instance, I wonder what delusional fears, gee dunk thinks that we live in?

          1. No not lazy I just figured out you can’t have any intelligent conversation with delusional tards like you guys here. I thought when I first started commenting here on the indoctrinating BS there would be someone with critical thinking skills but alas I was wrong. So now it’s just fun to poke around here with my ugly stick and get all you haters riled up and expose the true nature of all the dolts were finding here. ISIS on boys!

      2. @gee bum,get off the drugs and find a job ! Get out of your mothers basement,get off drugs and find a job. Try to become a productive citizen ! Your the little engine that could !

        1. And at the end of the day the little engine always wins. I’m glad you keep up with the cartoons and easy readers texant.

  20. + Gee Dud , You make the mistake of thinking I’m anti government. I am not . I am however against illegal,llegitimate ,corrupted government. And that is presently what we have.

    1. Corrupted goverment is what we have in all the red states and the GOP controlled power positions. Did you know the GOP is the biggest crime family in world bar none?

      1. Gee dunk, that statement is just ridiculous on its face. Have you ever met the crime families “… in the world bar none (sic)? Have you ever met even one crime family? Have you ever met even one member of a crime family?

        1. Bill, Ya gotta be careful with gee dud. After all, he’s stated above that hes a “gun owner and sportsman”. I don’t know about you, but he’s got me shaking in my boots. A real live gun owner. BTW, does water guns count? LMAO

          1. VT Pat, I’m trying not to hurt his feelings, but my 91 year old mother probably has more guns than he does.

          2. You won’t hurt my feelings billy in fact I’m getting some good laughs from your hypocritical greater than art thou BS. And when you guys bring it.. I’m sure when the first GAU-8 opens up on yur arse the first place you’ll run and hide is behind mommy who probably will still be shoot’in at the a-10 with her delusional finger gun.

      2. Both parties are corrupt and that’s why Trump is winning people over. He’s not one of them, hopefully. Both parties are involved with the globalist agenda 21.

      3. Gee dud,get the critical mental evaluation that you so desperately need. Pissant,get off the drugs and get out of your mothers basement. You’re the little train that could !..,”I can do it,I can do it,I can do it,..”

    1. If it wasn’t for the government you’d be speaking Japanese or German right now.
      If it wasn’t for imagration you wouldn’t exist.
      If it wasn’t for intelligence you wouldn’t be laughed at.

      1. Hey Gee Dud, what the heck are you doing on a site that is pro gun, pro freedom? BTW, if it wasn’t for millions of patriots with guns, we would be speaking German. Japanese, not as long as we have ‘blades of grass’. Not the kind of grass you’re smoking tho.
        I’ll try not to laugh for the intelligence you demonstrate with ‘imagration’, formerly known as “IMIGRATION”. Now, back to mom’s basement for you.

        1. I am a gun enthusiasts and a sportsman. I’m just not a stupid one. Nor do I give a rats ass about spelling on a blog. I’m not a supremacist and I believe everyone has the same right to walk this planet as you think you do until you break this countries laws. Ammoland has some good articles seeded but it also has a hell of lot of bull shit that you clowns gobble up by the truck load. You don’t even realize it’s fed to you by people that value money and power above everything else including the constitution. You are just a renewable resource dolts to your chefs feeding you the hate. You guys are the ones that give gun lovers and the 2nd amendment the bad rap.

          1. What kind of gun do you have gee dunk? I just got a really nice engraved second generation Colt SSA with ivory grips for my collection.

          2. un liek u dum arses eye hav a beter pok’r face and amm a lot smartor and dunt show mi hand ta the camiraz ore the terrirists lik u

        2. Ya know its a fact that when some bozo criticizes spelling it’s really because your a shallow and insecure asshole

          1. No, actually it is because it points out the writer is a lazy, inconsiderate slob who has ZERO respect for those who read his posts. Get off your duff, buy a dictionary, and LEARN TO SPELL!

          2. I can not believe that I am agreeing with CK for a second time! gee dunk, you better listen to Clark, but just about the spelling, and the respect part, and the getting off your duff part, too.

          3. Sorey eye m not ass proficent wit the yuse of speel checer an voyce ta tex ass u PC polelease r

          4. Oh that says a lot coming from a moron texant

            You were right about this part of your ignorant rant ck….
            “who has ZERO respect for those who read his posts”.

          5. Gee Dumbass, about the Dallas AARP meeting video? The link you posted in response to that is bullshit because, well you poor demented little dipstick, that was ME that took over the podium when the little AARP Bitch stomped out of the meeting because she couldn’t cram Obamacare down the throats of Common Sense thinking people! “BOOM”! Bitch!

          6. Hey romeo our governor screws us and your loving it? You liked the old GOP scam care? Your on the goverment dole and you bitch about what others are trying to do to progress quality care? That is plain and simple delusion man.

      2. From now on gee dunk, you may refer to me as Herr Oversturmbannfurer, and I will refer to you as Herr opstkuken.

          1. I am so disappointed, gee dunk, you no longer even try to make conversation. You are reduced to just throwing insults. Even your insults are wholly lacking in sophistication, and are thus, uninteresting. If you have decided to rise no higher than fourth grade name caller, could you, please, at least, try to use a word that I haven’t seen before. Perhaps there is some derogatory computer term… something.

          2. yeah it’s disappointing when someone give you a dose of your own medicine isn’t it?

      3. It was NOT “the government but the America people who won WW2. Legal imigration DID build this country, the demented left is allowing ILLEGAL invasion to destroy us. Your statement shows you have no inteligence to speak of and shows you to be a liberal parrot.

  21. Trump is going to trounce Hillary in November. As sweet as the look will be on her face, her winning is is the only thing that can start this. Hillary’s win would kick the dominoes in the same way as Lincoln’s, and we could go about the business of the necessary win to save the US from the left. When Trumps makes all the pundits look like idiots again in November like he did on Super Tuesday, his victory is going to pacify our side. He’s not stupid enough to overtly betray us, and he’s not Hillary that would throw another Big Texas BBQ just to prove that who’s supreme. Trump’s victory is the pressure release the establishment needs to avoid the war that would actually end them.

    Don’t vote for Hillary. God, no, don’t do that. Just know that unless they do something to Trump or he really does betray us badly, we’ve missed our window. Trump will not be able to get done that which needs to be done on immigration to save America from it’s effects.

      1. If you were married texant I’d bet it be to a bull dyke. I’m married to an Irish Cherokee woman, she doesn’t make me her bitch. Just don’t add alcohol. R U a wee bit homophobic texant? or you just fighting other demons or voices in ur head?

        1. Ahhh! The mating call of the pissant! If it weren’t for his chatter we would have to wonder when he left his keyboard and wandered over to the school yard trolling for his prey?

    1. The “we’re sweet hotel” called and your room is ready for you and barney frank for next weekend. Enjoy..

    2. @Gee Dud, And you need to find a new country. Suggest you start now. We are taking this one back whether you like it or not.

      1. Well, Thom, maybe gee dunk can help me out with a few questions that I have. He knows more about this than I do. First, if we are sick, will Obamacare pay for our care and upkeep? Second, maybe it is a permanent condition that we can use to claim Social Security disability payments. Finally, are there any other government programs that will support us because we are sick?

        1. + Wild Bill. What they won’t tell you is that without major health insurance to cover the gap. Is that the state will end up taking everything you own. But for statists I suppose that’s a good thing right? Folks who worked their whole lives end up with nothing and still get less than minimal care. The statist swindle knows no bounds ,and thanks to low information voters like Gee Dud ? It’s now worse than ever. Best to you and yours Bill. , T.P.

          1. I suggest you do some research into Obamacare because you have absolutely no Idea what your talking about tommy.

          2. I freely and fully admit that I know nothing about Obama care because I buy my own health insurance.

            I think, GR, that gee dunk is not interested in learning anything. He was just bomb throwing.

          3. Hey gregory I really can’t help you if you still eating 7 year old bull shit. If you want some facts about that meeting click this. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/7/763368/-

            Obama care wasn’t even implemented at that time and the dumbass Texas crowd was suckered in again to the GOP BS buffet via the chicken little routine.
            When you feed on bullshit it usually gets you killed or delusional.

          4. Is that what you call facts little bill …bombs ? you are delusional either that or your 11 years old.

          5. Wild Bill and Tex, is there anyway that we can get a video of Gee Bud pissing all over himself when I explain to him that it was, “I” that took over the podium in the video of the “Dallas AARP meeting” where are the AARP rep kept trying to cram Obamacare down the throats of the members and the members kept trying to reject it against her will and she threw a pissy fit and stomped out of the meeting?

          1. No, I don’t go to the VA for medical treatment. No way. But you, gee dunk, are paying my pension so you just stay employed because you have me to support! Every where you go and every job you ever get, if any, you will be working to support me.

          2. Ah .. now the government dole is a good thing right little bill? and “unless you are paying cash for all your care” your part of the socialized pool system called insurance. Are you a socialist bill? I mean you drive on socialist built roads , worked for a socialized establishment, collect socialized income. If walks and talks like a duck billy isn’t it a duck? Or r u jest a hipakritacal duc?

        2. Wild Bill and Tex, is there anyway that we can get a video of Gee Bud pissing all over himself when I explain to him that it was, “I” that took over the podium in the video of the “Dallas AARP meeting” where are the AARP rep kept trying to cram Obamacare down the throats of the members and the members kept trying to reject it against her will and she threw a pissy fit and stomped out of the meeting?

          1. Hell yes, GR! He made a vid that he sells out of the trunk of his Fiat at the corner of Willowbrook and Imperial Hwy. It is called “Pee Buddies in the Golden Shower.

          2. Not me but I see you and romeo downloaded that 6 times last week. Why do you want credit for being an idiot when you didn’t even know what the ACA was then?
            All you knew was it was an Obama plan so you attacked?

  22. Obozo and his minions know that the only way they can “fundamentally change” America is by precipitating anarchy. What better way to inflame the populace than by steadily infringing on personal freedoms enumerated in the Bill of Rights. And let’s not forget the effects of excessive taxation in the form of punitive taxes on tobacco, sugary drinks and firearms/ammunition. A good example of punitive taxation is a sugar tax being proposed in Philadelphia. A 12 ounce can of soda costs about $1.00 from a vending machine. Adding the proposed 3 cent per ounce tax to that can of soda brings it’s price to $1.36, an effective tax rate of 36%. How’s that for excessive taxation? Does it make you angry?

    1. The ironic thing about Obama’s first run for the Presidency? If you recall all he said was basically, “HOPE and CHANGE”, but NOBODY ever asked him what he meant by any of that….. As well, just watch the Eddie Murphy movie, “The Distinguished Gentleman” that came out prior to Obama’s run for office and you will see WHERE Obama got his protocol to run for office… Minus a few diffferences in the movie’s script, it is perhaps the closest format that Obama followed to get into our Whitehouse!

  23. I just took delivery of a Henry Big Boy .357Mag lever action rifle. 10 rounds and it draws a lot less attention from the anti-gun crowd than the AR based weapons.

    1. Who cares what the anti-gun crowd thinks? They would prefer you own a squirt gun. P.S. The anti-gunners want to ban your lever action rifle also.

    2. So when you run out of ammo and need to swap parts to repair your rifle in the field what are you going to do? You think Bubba Gump’s Gun Stores are going to be open? Or that you might get lucky enough to be in the same Foxhole with armorer or gunsmith with all the tools necessary to get you up and going again?

      This is the biggest mistake of people that don’t know Jack squat about combat. New used firearms and ammunition that is interchangeable so in the field if your weapon is down you can grab another one and still use your handle or if you run out of ammo or arms you us what is being used agaist you.

      Get your advice from properly trained military or law enforcement personnel and not these yokels that play video games or browse the internet all day long reading all the variations and stories of gun enthusiasts.

  24. If the bulk of the shooting public voted as a block, rather than letting ourselves be divided by less fundamental issues, none of this would be happening. I’ve seen estimates of the number of guns in US civilian hands from 270 million to 310 million and the number of armed citizens from 75 million up to a third of our population. It’s smarter to fight this war at the ballot box than from some bunker somewhere

  25. There is no need to imagine theoretical scenarios because we already have clear examples in recent history. Use Yahoo AND Google to search for “gun owners refuse to comply” and “police refuse to enforce” and especially “sheriffs refuse to enforce”, try variations of this theme as you read and learn, and be prepared to spend a fair amount of your time researching everything that comes up.

    A quick, partial review of what you will find:
    Connecticut. 350,000 – 400,000 PEOPLE, gun owners, would be affected by that state’s unconstitutional magazine ban / registration laws a few years back, and 85% – 95% of gun owners simply refused to comply. This is very easy to look up so I will not elaborate further. However, by my math, carefully taking the lower of both estimates:
    350,000 people X .85 refusing to comply = 297, 500 gun owners, as in 85% of the total, refused to comply.
    But many articles state only about 80,000 to 100,000 gun owners refused to comply. Still quite a large number but not even close to the estimates you will find if you do that math yourself. You are welcome to figure out the “why” behind this apparent underestimation of 80k-100k when it should be closer to 300k. ALSO, of course, you will see that many police and sheriffs refused to enforce these laws in that state. _That_ matters quite a bit. Yahoo AND Google await. It is amazing what never makes the national news.

    New York: So called SAFE Act. Roughly close to one million PEOPLE, gun owners, in that state, affected by unconstitutional magazine ban and registration schemes. Eventually a pro-gun organization successfully sued under the Freedom of Information Act (FOI or FOIA), and thus found that just under 5% of gun owners had bothered to comply. I.E. ~95% of gun owners simply refused to comply! This will come up in your Google AND Yahoo searches and man, isn’t it _amazing_ how you never heard of this before? Also, and perhaps most importantly, once again, many police and sheriffs have refused to enforce, and that especially gets the marching in perfect lockstep of well organized silence across all the news networks, channels and outlets. Local news outlets will cover most things and you can find them if you know to look for them like this, but NATIONAL news, not a peep when it runs contrary to their agenda. The silence is deafening.

    Los Angeles: banned “large capacity magazines” of greater than 10 rounds, and after much noise and bluster it came down to a 60 day time period for people to turn them in, or else. The 60 days passed and NOT ONE SINGLE MAGAZINE had been turned in. Not one. Police and Sheriffs refused to enforce once again. Once again the lack of national coverage is astonishing, if you can keep being astonished by the same thing over and over again.

    You will find many other examples in other states and places. There is no need to _theorize_ what gun owners _might_ do, because we already can see what gun owners _have done_ in the face of lawless, unconstitutional, overreaching, out of control government. Remember, Yahoo AND Google or you may miss a few crucial things here and there. Other search engines certainly won’t hurt to try if they are used in addition to these and not in place of them. 🙂

    In short, hundreds of thousands to millions of gun owners have already spoken loud and clear, and the media – on the national level – has so far been able to ignore them. The good news is whenever the media varies from the truth, they become nothing more than a Grand Illusion. Like the Grand Illusion that you are just a hopeless little part of a tiny minority of people, fighting an impossible battle for what is right, when in fact you are part of a _very large majority_. The whole point of propaganda is to make those targeted feel all alone and overwhelmed and etc. The Grand Illusion that most people are liberals who agree with all of this PC nonsense is itself nothing more than that, a Grand Illusion. Hard left liberals are themselves a minority, anywhere outside of their wealthy little liberal enclaves (in New York, Washington DC, parts of California, etc.). Once you get people to see behind that propaganda curtain, so to speak, many other Grand Illusions – mere creations of media wizardry – start crumbling down in fairly short order. There are far more good people of principle and character than you might have ever allowed yourself to imagine. They just never make the news, unsurprisingly enough. So take heart and stand strong. Join the various pro-gun organizations and you don’t have to do this all alone.

    2008, Bush Jr’s last year in office, 300+ million guns in America. Typical of most government estimates being that the number of guns are roughly equal to or a little greater than the total number of people in the country. This is easily verified, and by now you know how to do so. Then search “100 million guns during Obama” to see how 100 million guns were sold during Obama’s first seven years in office. Strangely though, 300+ million guns prior to Obama, plus 100 million sold during Obama, still only totals 300+ million, according to much of the media. Somebody is obviously lying. There must be something well over 400+ million guns and likewise far and away more _gun owners_ than anybody in power cares to admit, assuming the 2008 estimates were even vaguely close to accurate and not severe underestimations already. U.S. corporate media is very good at seriously underestimating or overestimating various things when it serves the government / media complex to do so, but their lies have gotten so _huge_ than even children are starting to see that the Emperor in his Grand Illusion of U.S. wealth, power and fancy new clothes, is actually just some old pervert walking around in his underwear. 🙂

    1. A little long John (no pun intended), but some outstanding observations. For example, “…The whole point of propaganda is to make those targeted feel all alone and overwhelmed and etc. The Grand Illusion that most people are liberals who agree with all of this PC nonsense is itself nothing more than that, a Grand Illusion.”

      The Clintoon campaign recently admitted to paying people (trolls) to go onto web sites, chat rooms, blogs etc and push back against conservative commenters, and make the situation look as if conservatives are isolated, minority, wackos. These people get paid per response, so they are not above inane logic and personal insult. If you respond to someone else about them, the trolls don’t get credit for a response.

      1. …The whole point of propaganda is to make those targeted feel all alone and overwhelmed and etc.

        That’s the magic. Even a single lowly pawn, properly placed, can take out a king in chess.

          1. There you go again, gee dunk, Sedition has never written so much as one bad word to you, yet, you insult him. How will you ever convince anyone of the rightness of your cause (what ever it is), if all you do is insult people?

          2. Bill,that gee dud is ate up with the dumbass. The punk won’t get out of his mommas basement !

          3. hmmm ” mommas basement” That would be a great code name for your hilarious bunkers you guys make that you think will protect you.
            I hate to disappoint you texant but unlike you, your faux patriots and ISIS I do not hide behind women and children and tuff guy names, Deluded tards do that to cope with there insecurities. Wanna talk about your insecurities texant?

    2. Great post. I’d add that part of the increased pressure and regulation is due to the fact that long ago, the Senate voted itself a new way of being re-elected. The effects are now becoming crystal clear. Senators now represent neither the states nor the people they represent. They represent the large population centers that elect them. And the re-election rate of 80-90 percent often is attributed to big media that also answers to the big cities. A return to the founders’ notion of senators being elected by state legislatures seems particularly prudent in view of the colossal damage inflicted on us by the past two presidents.

    3. Wild Bill, as you were saying, trolls are being paid to disrupt chat sights like this one. Have you ever considered that Gee Bud is one of them? He never brings up a good point or says anything of value; he just insults and messes with all of you. I have never visited this site before but reading down through the posts i can see what he is doing. I know it is hard to ignore a person that is insulting you but if you all did this to this guy he will grow tired of not being able to get a rise out of you, or he will just be a local joke on this site. He is not worth the time and energy you expend to respond to him. We all know he is a joke, like a little ant trying to anger the elephants in the room. Ignore him and show him for the nothing he is. Now Gee Bud do you best to insult me because you mean nothing to me. This is the last time i will waste a second talking about you.

  26. Who would have believed 10 (7??) years ago that there would be open conversations of revolution in these formerly great United States. But, it is happening. The old “United we Stand” motto was never more important than it is now. Remember the Bundy ranch episode. A large group of farmers, ranchers, and patriots stood the line and shutdown the attempted takeover of cattle grazing lands. Now, the corrupt pol’s are one by one going after to arrest the ranchers and their followers. This is getting worse by the day. And I can’t see it ending pretty.
    United we stand, divided we fall.

    1. And how did that bird sactuary invasion work out for ya’ll.
      Why didn’t all you armchair warriors come and support the corporate funded bundy back door plan to privatize public land?

      1. Because it wasn’t sanctioned and because there wasn’t a substantial and proper purpose supporting their decision to do what they did.

          1. The man gives you more respect than you deserve, in the form of an honest answer, gee dunk, and all you can do is insult him. It appears that you owe GR an apology.

          2. Hey lil bill who died and made you king lunatic. You seem to think your above everyone and act like some sort of teacher and grand poo bah. But again and again I have proven you to be a hipokritacle lyer. last to words were just for your ego bill. Have ya self annointed yurself Ammoland sainthood or ar ya piad by one of the Koch suckers creyem family acontants?

          3. No one died, gee, I was commissioned by the President of the United States (not the current one). He gave me a title that I can still use pursuant to Federal law. And I have done a little teaching, everything from how to use a Claymore mine to the Law of Land Warfare. And you don’t even recognize when some one is being nice to you. From the way you write, even a street walker has more common courtesy toward others and respect for themselves than you have for yourself.

          4. Hey billy you were one of the first to disrespect me when I came here. I actually wanted to discuss the articles but all you circle jerks could do is make everything personal. So I’m down on your level giving ya’ll what you sow making my points one sarcastic remark after another hoping to possibly dissuade a fool or two from destroying his life and his families or lives of those of undeserving of your hate.

            I never thought men could be bigger drama queens than women but the GOP teanut patriot scam has proven otherwise. drama queen on boys, Maybe you’ll live to regret it, Maybe not.

          5. I was the first one to disrespect you? Flatterer! Now, did that come before or after you insulting me? Search your memory, and be honest. I am sure that I can not take credit for it, but you invite it. I would be rude not to accept.
            Getting by all the ugly thoughts and vitriol of your last post. I will discuss the articles with you, but no more childish insults, shockingly poor logic, made up facts, personal prevarications, and please work on your punctuation so that we don’t misunderstand you. It is a high standard, but I think that you can do it. Which article would you like to discuss, gee bud?

          6. Wild Bill, there’s no sense in trying to reason with this man. He doesn’t have any respect for himself, let alone anybody else. He sits alone, without friends and grumbles at the world for the piss-poor decisions he made in his life to make him such a worthless waste of oxygen. Perhaps one day we will all hear the big, “POP” when he pulls his head out of his ass?

        1. Been there tried that on every article I visited but no one was capable of anything but personal attacks including yourself. Get this straight, Your not my teacher, You lost my respect after your first projection and attempt to belittle someone that has a different opinion. All your true colors pal are very easy to discern. If you Keep feeding the morons spin and Bullshit then don’t be a pansy when you end up reaping what you sow.

          1. @Gee dud,disrespect a pissant like you ? Its impossible to disrespect a pissant like you ! LMFAO ! How about this..FU*CK YOU !

          2. @gee bum,one other thing pissant. Bill gets respect because he deserves respect. Respect is something earned not just given. Plus,respect is never given to pissants that won’t vacate their mommas basement. I told you before that if you get off the drugs and focus on becoming a productive citizen there might be hope for you. I doubt it,but there might be. Remember,you’re the little engine that could !

          3. “Gee dud,disrespect a pissant like you ? Its impossible to disrespect a pissant like you ! ”

            Well that almost makes sense, you mean You respect me texant? ahhhh ur sweeeeet how about this..FU*ck Y0u and everybody that looks and acts like you!

          4. Well, I tried t hold out the olive branch. I am disappointed that you took the easy way out. Two final things: I grew up in the military where swearing and insults are an art form. I’ve been berated by the best. None of your insults have been remotely interesting, much less hurtful. Finally, you could have learned a lot from the men and women that converse here, if you would have had even a modicum of respect for your self. And I would have been happy to help you overcome your many deficiencies. Well, that is it. Good bye, gee dunk.

          5. Pissant,like Bill, after this no more contact with you. You’re a pissant and a moron ! They sent you to school to learn and you ate the covers off the books ! Remember get out of your mommas basement and quit being a pissant. You’re the little engine that could !

    1. That be cool with us, will give ya that one as long as we get tickets too. Plan that when your crying for your first cease fire agreement meeting. 🙂

  27. I’m now a big fan of Jim & Mary Clary. I read a lot and don’t remember authors’ names but I’ll remember these two. I believe the AR-15 phenomenon is due precisely because it serves as an excellent means of self protection in the home AND alongside 75 million other owners of such firearms, they’ll serve nicely in the field. I doubt that they’ll ever be used on a wide scale because as a Veteran from 60 years ago, I don’t believe our military forces will allow themselves to be deployed against the people they vowed to protect. If they’re used as suggested, I believe it’ll be against police chiefs leading renegade field cops. It’s likely that such skirmishes will end so fast, additional government violence will be stopped dead. By the way, I don’t yet own an AR-15 because I always believed sidearms served sufficiently for self protection. I plan to change that and upgrade to a smaller sidearm this month. I’ve seen advertisements for the DPMS Oracle for $525, Beretta Nano for $400 or Glock 19 for $630.

    1. @Gene,that’s way too much for a Glock 19 Gen 4 ! One of my AR10’s is DPMS and they are really nice and dependable too. Im not familiar with the Oracle but DPMS makes really solid stuff.

      1. Thanks. I suspected that but have just started looking. I plan to visit a gun show weekend after next and compare some prices.

        1. Just remember don’t try to take down a large-caliber man with a small caliber round.

          And it’s best to use the same caliber of what’s coming at you, that way you can always pick up theirs and use it.

    2. @Gene,one last thing. Check out prices Buds Guns and Gunbroker for the firearms you are looking for. It’s been my experience that they usually have the best prices. Take care.

    3. Gene, the United States Marine Corps has been doing two things professionally since 1775 and that is killing people and blowing shit up. Sn, being a Marine and knowing this information to be true fact, I tend to agree with the professional baseline.

      just use whatever your typical US Marine grunt uses… A .45 Colt 1911A1 ( or Springfield Armory or Rock Island) and an AR-15 in 5.56 / .223 unless you want to go longer range then go for a Remington 700 SPS in 7.62/308 cal and even longer range would be your 338 Lapua.

      If you build up your arms properly you’re going to end up spending more money on your optics anyway so be prepared for that bite in the ass. But the bottom line is when deciding combat small arms, do it right the first time so you have no regrets later on.

      If you take your time and shop properly, you’ll do just fine. You can also go online and find 45 caliber 1911 A1 kits where you can build your own 45 and also build your own AR-15 for much less then retail or wholesale prices. OOHRAH!

    1. Do not rule out the “lone wolf” factor. There are tens of thousands of older Vietnam era vets like me that intend on killing at least one progressive SOB before entering Valhalla.

        1. Apparently gee dunk can neither spell nor read as there is no “d” in congratulations, but there is a “t” in hantayo, thus the abbreviation would be hanta not hanna. I am sure that hantayo cares as little for the government’s list as I do.

          1. You git yur undies in bundle so easy lill’ bill may be ya shud ask ur docter fer some chill pills

          2. Aparintly lil bill you have the same problum as me. gee dunk is a long way from gee bud. So do you blaim yur ignerence on bad I sight er poor schoolin? Here I waz thunking evry 1 hear gets ta change othir pepils stage naims hear jest fur fun and sence hanta yo seams aniethin butt native amuricin I just thunked a gurls naim liek Hanna suited bedder then a grayt book like hanta yo, specshally when she mentsunz a acient myhology place liek valhala. Wie ya’ll u nut jobs liek livin in histery an fanisy an halve tuff guy naims yet ur so thin skined ?

        2. I’ve probably been on it for years, and if you are reading these posts, you are too. Keep in mind under prince Obama, any one of us can be listed on the whelm of any of his cabinet.

          1. @hantayo,forget the little pissant gee bum. His mother can’t get the pissant out of her basement and the pissant uses way too much dope.

  28. I think we should make it very clear that push come to shove we will target the people responsible for this effort to deny us our God given rights. Hunt them down like the pigs they are, then follow the old French exampl.

  29. Together we stand. Divided we fall.
    Can we really expect a diverse group of non combat trained gun owners to come together, cooperate, coordinate, communicate and organize into an effective fighting contingent of Warriors??
    I sure as hell hope so. If you do, there is no way they will take your right to self defense from us.
    There is no lack of tactically trained talent.
    All we need is the WILL to fight. I predict our local law enforcement officers will stand with us.
    The fact that we stand together may be all that’s required!

    Travel safe.

    1. According to the US Constitution every community is suppose to have a local militia that trains regularly. I watched NCIS New Orleans once and they made local militias look like a radical terrorist group. Its called brainwashing the public to fit their agenda. The government is not our friend and that’s why the founding fathers put in the second amendment to keep the government in line but they want to take that away also.

      1. Stallion, I know you are aware that any militia begins with the first man. The recent terrorist activity occurring around the world proves that the best local militia might be the Patriot oriented “lone wolf sleeper cell”. Such sleeper cells of one can be very effective, as they can not be detected before an action occurs. I am certain there are many lone wolves out there watching current events. If the SHTF becomes imminent they will go after their target.

        1. I suspect that the targets will be the very politicians that wrote the gun grabbing laws. These poor misinformed people have no skin in the game. They stand for nothing and have no resolve. They are unable to believe that the average gun owner will take up arms against them. Mike Vanderbough wrote up a list of the gun grabbing politicians in Connecticut that voted for outlawing magazines over 10 rounds and any gun that looked like a military pattern rifle,. complete with home address, and phone numbers and published this information on the internet. The gun grabbing politicians did not know whether to dedicate or go blind. He truly scared them. Oh yes politicians like to make up lists of people but when they get on somebody’s list they do not like it one bit.

    2. Well, Thomas, a logistical system that would support a ” fighting contingent of Warriors” is necessary or they won’t be effective for long. Rations, water, or munitions run out, and three days later it is all over. [Author’s note: Nine tenths of every army ever defeated were cut off from their logistical support. McArthur.]

    3. That would still result in blood spilled on the side of the aggressors. I carry in church. So do most of the folks I know. It’s STILL going to happen, but hopefully it will happen AFTER the Rapture of Christianity.

      Thomas Townsend: That’s why God created the Green Berets. I know that THEY will stand by the original intent of the Constitution. I’m a Vet. Former Infantry Captain. I’m not alone. Therefore, neither are you. We veterans know what to do and how to do it. Just be ready to sacrifice to the same degree as George Washington and his troops were and we can win. Again.

      1. Many of us a very well trained,Blackhawk down comes to mind,very unorganized group brought hell down on our men.

        1. Thoes guy’s wearing black pajamas in Vietnam didn’t do too bad either, however you must remember that the ROE in both situations, both Black Hawk Down and Vietnam were politically and financialy based whereas if anything breaks loose here in the United States there won’t be an ROE.

      2. JK, I applaud your enthusiasm, but skipping down to “Former Infantry Captain”: Whatever your plan is, Captain, we will need logistics. And look who we will be up against. In fact, if you go through the OPORD (five paragraph field order for our Marine friends), you may want to reevaluate.

    4. Let’s put it this way,, with 22 + million veterans, many of them with fresh combat experience in this country, I’m pretty sure that the untrained gun owners don’t want to take up arms to protect and defend the Constitution by getting in the way and tripping over all of the trained military veterans and prior service law enforcement personnel and will most likely fall in formation behind the properly trained military and prior law enforcement personnel and take orders and be trained up to speed as a private in boot camp until they are properly trained then assigned a mission along with trained personnel.

      Or they can see how far their testosterone and macho attitude will get them with fully charged Marines, Force Recon, Navy SEALS. Army Rangers, Delta Force, 10th Mountain, Spec Ops all the way down to the youngest boot camp United States Marine Private Rifleman that will quickly hand them their ass if they presented an unsafe and dangerous situation amongst all the trained veterans or possibly become a threat to a mission.

      I can quickly imagine that the untrained gun owners that wish to take up arms to become Patriots will quickly realize that the top rated video game didn’t teach them Jack schitt and the Discovery Channel is made for history and entertainment.

      No offense to them but unless they are properly trained in this day and age with the technology we have available they’ll be more of a danger and a disability than they would be worth any help until they do get the proper training and discipline necessary to be helpful and effective.

      it’s just like you cannot become a brain surgeon just because you’re holding a scalpel.

      OOH-RAH!

  30. It would be more like a Revolution than a Civil War. This is the citizens against a tyrannical government. That’s what started the Revolution when the British went to confiscate the Colonialist arms. It will happen again only worse bloodshed unfortunately.
    On the other hand I wonder if this is just a method of making money for Bloomberg and the Clintons. From what info I got the Clintons have stock in Ruger Arms and I wouldn’t doubt Bloomberg also plus ammunition. When there is talk of gun control people run like mad to buy guns and ammo, the stocks in these companies have skyrocketed every time.
    Or they are disarming the Americans so they can fulfill the Globalist dream of one world government and domination plus at the same time make a boat load of money in the stock market before they take them away. The Clintons are masters at making money either illegal or legal.
    Molon labe!

    1. Would be a civil war, a revolution, a war with non-citizen groups, a war with looter countries like those S. of us and middle east. No doubt Russia and Cuba would go after a piece of the pie. Our resources have been put on hold or severely restricted. Saved for whom? Other countries care less about the environment, I’m quite sure our Government really doesn`t care either. Also, we have foreign troops here already. Not sure, but I think we would have at least 5 fronts. I`m pissed our so called leaders have put us in this position. To the degree that the first one on my door step to collect my guns, had better kiss his family good buy before he goes to work that day. Now, an easy solution for the gun grabbers is to round up Christians and other church goers on a sunday morning. Collect all gun sale records, then go house to house. The media will keep it quiet.

      1. to risky for the government to do that, once known after the first few attempts then all will break lose and the feds will be set up along with the state and dumb ass local[police and they will be slaughtered.

      2. Don’t forget Oathkeepers and hundreds of county sheriffs and deputies and stalwart governors like Gregg Abbott of Texas and Doug Ducey of AZ who will call out the guard to stand with patriots.

        1. Gov.Abbott,a proud White Man who will take care of business and take care of the citizens of Texas ! There won’t be any tyrannical BS happening here. Abbott swore an oath to protect the citizens of Texas and the constitution and that oath means something to him ! Texas is the perfect location to be if sh*it hits the fan ! NATIVE TEXAN,NATIVE PROUD ! …..’TEXAS,LIKE A WHOLE OTHER COUNTRY’ !

          1. Hey texant Yur not a native American your an evasive species. Yur gonna shit yur pants the day texas turns blue….

          2. The man stated, “NATIVE TEXAN” there is a difference. There is a BIG difference. Now I’m not a native Texan but I got here as soon as I could! (1985)
            Semper Fidelis!

    2. A clear-eyed assessment may be in order here. 100 million citizens who are mostly strangers to one another doesn’t make a coherent force. Expecting each of them to be equally ready to shoot back is not IMHO realistic. And the regime has the US Air Force and (at least the command structure and equipment of) the US Army. And the drones, with their HELLFIRE missiles. And snitches, probably in every neighborhood. The survivors in north Waziristan and Yemen could tell you not to call any large meetings – they’re militarily attractive. So, saber rattling isn’t liable to end well, if followed to “hold m’beer, and watch this.” OpSec may well turn out to be invaluable – including care over what you type here; it’s forever – did I mention that the NSA may not have fully packed up and gone home?

      1. I am a 20 year military veteran who still has contacts in High places on active duty. I have asked military officers and senior enlisted what would happen if the order came to turn on the American people. Each said the order would be refused.

        However, when you ask the younger military members, you get a different reaction. Remember, the youth of today have a piss poor education and very little understanding of the Constitution. (take a look at the Sanders campaign)

        Another generation of military members will pass and then they can and will be used on the citizens.

        1. If you get wackos firing on government institutions and representatives all bets are off and the government will respond with any and all means necessary to take out the idiots.

          1. Gee. Bud, I’m pretty sure we’ll even be able to find a set of big boy pants to fit you someday

          2. Big boy pants on clearance at Walmart! Hey romeo I don’t have to shop in your Obese wardrobe department because I don’t eat the BS like ya’ll do.

      2. Our high tech war with the poor Vietnamese didn’t turn out so well. Hit and run strategy. Grab them by the belt buckle.
        I think most people will turn in their weapons and stay with their families. Most people don’t really have the heart for it.

        1. Our high tech war (well lead and audaciously executed) resulted in a sixty (NVA) to one (U.S.) kill ratio. Giap’s “grab them by the buckle” tactics fed into U.S. strengths, and was a complete failure for NVA efforts.
          Look to LBJ, Richard Shithouse Nixon, and Walter Cronkite for failure.

      3. And logistics, Dallas, don’t forget to mention that the Feds have a terrific logistics system already in place.

        1. Are you implying, “MILLITARY INTELIGENCE” like those audacious, “leaders” that destroyed the, “Find the enemy and kill them” ROE?

          1. No, Greg, the leadership I referred to was the platoon, company, and battalion level officers and NCOs. And I think that you mean search and destroy. Ok, time to de de mou!

          2. Wild Bill, if you check the military records in military history you will find that my ROE was correct. Your ROE came along a while later.

          3. ” Ok, time to de de mou! ”
            Your Vietnamese spelling is terrible lil’ bill
            Depending on the dialect it is dee dee mow or di di mau.

      4. You can bet your a$$ that they are still collecting ID data on every post of any Patriot type site, including this one. It will mean nothing though if each Patriot out there plans ahead and defines to muscle memory beforehand to kill any government thug that comes to illegally arrest them. Do not allow anyone including local police to enter your property without a legitimate search warrant. If you are serious about not giving up your guns, choose to die in the first wave. Shoot to kill the first SOB swatted up thug that comes through your busted down door. Use M-855 rounds, or 00 buck, and take him out in the usually unarmored femur (upper leg), or groin/abdomen, on the first shot. You will probably not be alive after taking that first shot, but if you are, go for the head once he’s down. If each swat team takes just one fatality per raid, the gun-grabbing assaults in your area will quickly peter out. Molon Labe!

  31. April 19th 1775. “Where once those embittered farmers stood, and fired the shot heard round the world!” Remember the real Patriots Day.

    1. BINGO!!!! But, as angry as the colonists were toward the unfairness of government, it was the attempt, by the Brits, to disarm them and take their armory that inspired the shot still echoing through history. The same despotism is at work in our time and another try at stealing rights and property will undoubtedly end up similarly. Progressives want to believe that Americans are buying firearms, in massive numbers, because they don’t think that the same ones will be available next month. Maybe. Or, maybe they are simply preparing for whatever is coming.

      1. t Brother it was “England’s taxes” on everything from Whisky Stamps and Tea. This is who our tea party people are today. Its an acronym standing for TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY.

        1. Umm Robert I suggest you do your history home work a little more thoroughly. Actually the Boston tea party was a retaliation to the English government giving unfair advantage to a large global company. In a modern day analogy it would be like Americans dumping foreign oil or corporate Chinese goods to condemn the lack of home grown products and oil produced by Americans. At the time taxes actually went down on tea I believe.
          Read this if you want to be better informed on true history instead of the GOP rewrite of history. http://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-boston-tea-party

  32. 100 million Gun owners, each one takes out one Gun Grabber when they come for them! This is what should have happened when the Nazis went after the Jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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