Governor Deal Vetos Campus Carry

By Dean WeingartenGovernor Nathan Deal Georgia

Dean Weingarten
Dean Weingarten

Arizona – -( Governor Nathan Deal of Georgia has vetoed HB 859, which would authorize the carry of concealed weapons by concealed carry permit holder on Georgia campuses. The bill was very popular in the legislature, passing with wide margins. The bill passed the House 113 to 59, and the Senate 37 to 17.

From Governor Deal’s statement on the veto at

HB 859 seeks to amend O.C.G.A. § 16-11-127.1, which relates to the carrying of weapons within school safety zones. It would add an exception to the prohibition of carrying or possessing a weapon in such school zones, to “any licensed holder when he or she is in any building or on real property owned or leased to any public technical school, vocational school, college or university or other public institution of postsecondary education,” except for “buildings or property used for athletic sporting events or student housing, including, but not limited to fraternity and sorority houses…”

Some supporters of HB 859 contend that this legislation is justified under the provisions of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution which provides in part that “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Identical words are contained in Article I, Section, I, Paragraph VIII of the Constitution of the State of Georgia. It would be incorrect to conclude, however, that certain restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms are unconstitutional.

The Governor then goes into a long and involved justification for his actions, which amount to a statement that it is not unconstitutional to ban the carry of arms on colleges, and we have done it up to now.

He gives no indication why colleges should be any different from the city just across the street from their boundary.  He does not acknowledge that concealed carry permit holders are less likely to abuse the right to carry than are police officers, and are far more law abiding than the general population.

Governor Deal then goes further, to propose that increased the criminal penalties for unauthorized possession of firearms on campus:

I suggest to the General Assembly that it consider making the unauthorized possession and/or use of a firearm on a college campus an act that carries an increased penalty or an enhanced sentence for the underlying crime.

I doubt that Governor Deal expects to run for office in Georgia again.

He quotes a decision from a meeting that Thomas Jefferson attended in 1824, setting up rules for the University of Virginia, but ignores a quote from Jefferson to his nephew in 1785, who has been sent off to school, where he advises Peter Carr to

“Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.”

Which he suggested should take up about two hours of every day.
The upper education lobby is a very powerful force in most legislatures.  In “progressive” theory, “experts” are supposed to tell the people what to think and what policies to follow.  Those “experts” are often from places of higher education.  In practice, the “experts” are carefully chosen to advance the agenda that the “progressives” want to advance.  If other experts such as John Lott, disagree, they are minimalized.

Campus carry is likely to come to Georgia, but not this year.  The legislature passed the legislation too late for a plausible veto override.
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About Dean Weingarten;

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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so,whaaaat, does this moron of a guvner believe that a person carrying his personal defensive weapon all over town all year round suddenly will turn into a raging monster the instant he crosses the magical line onto the college campus? Too bad its so late in the season and the legislature cannot override his veto.


Powers that be must have lorded evidence of his sex orgies over him. Either way his career is over


Over ride his veto. The have the votes to do so.


This kind of BS argument drives me to distraction. So WHAT, if there are children on campus!? There is simply no logical rationale for saying that they would somehow be endangered by allowing concealed carry there too. First off, licensed individuals carry concealed nearly everywhere else in public now, at movies, malls, restaurants, on the sidewalk, etc. Shall we ban children in those places “for their own safety?” Idiocy! Secondly, why would the safety of children on campus be of greater consideration than the safety of regular students? Does youth confer some greater importance? If it is the usually cited… Read more »


The 2nd amendment is clear Just carry anyway. If you go to court, it only takes one juror to use the Right ofJury Nullification to throw out a conviction. It is time we start telling everyone about the right of jury nullification and get people to use it in these cases. I have used it and it works. Makes the judge mad but I don’t really give a damn. Remember it only takes one to stop a conviction. You just do not tell the Judge what you are doing. I just say I just was not convinced of the guilt.… Read more »


Idiots…and all those like him…get on my nerves.