Katie Couric Twists Pro Gun Groups Comments For Phony “Documentary” “Under The Gun”

Katie Couric
Katie Couric

Virginia Citizens Defense League

Virginia – -(Ammoland.com)- Creative” editing by Katie Couric, who must have graduated from the Joseph Goebbels School of Journalism, has intentionally and significantly changed the response of Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) members in a new video called “Under the Gun” – and I have PROOF.

VCDL APPROACHED TO BE PART OF A “DOCUMENTARY”

I received an email in March of 2015 from Kristin Lazure, a producer for Atlas Films, asking if VCDL would be part of “a documentary about the gun violence prevention movement in America.”

In the email, Kristin said, “Some of the storylines we’re exploring include the legislative process on the federal and state level, how the Second Amendment has been interpreted in the wake of the Supreme Court’s Heller ruling, and what impact mass shootings like Aurora and Sandy Hook have on gun reform legislation.”

She continued, “In order to fully understand the complexities of this hot button topic and speak to an audience with varied viewpoints, Ms. Couric is very eager to include all perspectives in this discussion.”

As is VCDL’s general policy with the media, we do our best to accommodate their requests, as it gives us a chance to get our message out to the public. It is a policy that has worked well for as long as VCDL has been around, with the exception of four times, and this was to be one of those exceptions.

Katie’s team was set up to film in Washington, DC, and Kristin wanted to know if I could come there for the interview. I said that I would not come to DC, so they rented a conference room in a hotel in Northern Virginia and brought down their crew for what ended up being a two hour interview with Katie on April 13, 2015. (The audio of the raw interview is below).

Later, Dennis O’Connor and I took Katie and her crew to Blue Ridge Arsenal to film Katie learning how to shoot on May 11, 2015. While there, she also interviewed Dennis.

GROUP INTERVIEW

Later, Kristin contacted me about arranging an interview of a group of VCDL members.

The group interview was held in the room where VCDL meetings are held and ended just as VCDL members were coming in for the regularly scheduled Annandale membership meeting on June 18, 2015.

Participating in the group session were Ed Levine, Patricia Webb, Terrell Prude’, Dan Hawes, Leonard Harris, John Wilburn, Rubiner Toor, Barak Ulrich James, and Judy Rudek.

THE “DOCUMENTARY” TURNS OUT TO BE AN “INFOMERCIAL” FOR GUN CONTROL

While the movie claims to be a documentary, it’s clear after watching it that it was never intended to be a balanced presentation of the issues.

People from other gun groups were also interviewed, but in the end the video dedicated a mere fifteen minutes or so to the pro-self-defense side (of which VCDL had only about four minutes), while giving an hour and a half to the antis.

CREATIVE EDITING BY KATIE COURIC CHANGES THE VCDL GROUP’S ANSWER TO A KEY QUESTION

Katie apparently wasn’t getting anything from either the group or me that she could use to further her pro-gun-control arguments. In fact my entire two-hour interview was left on the cutting room floor, but some of the group interview made it into the final film.

However, one of the question/answer responses was altered – and therein lies the problem.

Watching the video, you hear Katie ask, “If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorist from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?” The camera then shows the group members TOTALLY SILENT FOR EIGHT SECONDS. The camera zooms in on one member, who looks down.

The clear implication is that none of the group had an answer for that question and was being evasive and avoiding eye contact.

The truth is, and as you will hear in the audio, below, that the group responded to Katie immediately, with answers to her question! Yet the video shows no one responding. Clearly, when Katie didn’t get the answer(s) she wanted, she changed the group’s answers by replacing them with other video of the group sitting around quietly between questions.

Unbelievable. And extremely unprofessional. In essence Katie lied about the VCDL members’ answers. If she so cavalierly lied in this instance, what other things did she alter in this movie or any of her previous reporting to advance her own personal agendas?

While I am used to our side being given less time in the press than the antis are given, I’m not used to having our words changed. That is a big journalistic “no no.”

Back in 1993, Dateline faked an accidental explosion of a truck to show that model truck was dangerous if involved in a collision. Dateline couldn’t actually create an explosion by crashing vehicles into the truck, so they ultimately, and shamefully, planted incendiary devices on the truck to force it to blow up.

What Katie did is similar.

Speaking of cheerleading for gun control, at the end of the infomercial the names of eight anti-self-defense groups that participated in the project are prominently listed under the title of “Join Those Already Making a Difference,” with viewers encouraged to contact them for more information. Not one single pro-self-defense group, including VCDL, is listed as a source of information.

The audio of the full group interview is here, skip to the 36 minute and 43 second mark to hear the question on felons and the answers the group provided. There is no silence, but Katie needed something to show gun owners are unreasonable in their opposition to universal background checks, so she provided eight seconds of silence for us:

Feel free to listen to the entire interview. I think the group did a phenomenal job defending our gun rights and that’s why the group doesn’t appear in the infomercial but for a few minutes, with a key part edited to serve a gun-control agenda.

You can watch Katie Curic’s gun control infomercial for free at: http://www.epix.com/movie/under-the-gun/

(The Epix web site for the movie says “with a narration from renowned journalist Katie Couric”. Renowned for what? Lying?)

As an FYI, my full interview (raw) can be heard here:


About Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL):

Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

For more information, visit: www.vcdl.org.

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OrdnanceMan

OK, although I tend to agree with the cunning runt remark, the FIRST Amendment has to do with the press. The SECOND Amendment has to do with guns. This says volumes about what the framers thought was more important.

Can’t pick & choose which right to support.

Everyone knows of someone who did not exercise the second amendment responsibly; obviously there are those that don’t exercise the First Amendment responsibly either… probably like most of them.

Raymond Miller

Hey B-Boy, “GFYS”

Lorraine E Blazich

Why does katie couric fly to Epstein kiddie sex island? She is thoroughly disgusting and I hop I never see her picture or printed words again.

Wild Bill

Lorraine where did you get the intel on Couric flying to Epstein kiddie sex island? Who is Epstein? Where is this alleged island located, it can’t be in the U.S.?

Lorraine E Blazich

Katie curic should hide her face in shame and never be given even an ounce of credibility. She has made trips to Epstein’s kiddie sex island and I find that to be disgusting. It is not surprising that someone as disgusting as her would try to destroy our Second Amendment Rights because she is going to try to eliminate everything which is good for us and the country because that is obviously what she is about. Hopefully I will never seen her ugly picture or a printed word of what she has to say ever again.

Josey Wales

Tex, don’t worry ( I know you’re not) If Spankmeister gets there you will have no less than 50 Navy SEALS, my BUDS and Blood Brothers, at your disposal. B better have an Army of 1,000 or more, to infiltrate your premises! Of that, I assure you! I’m just gonna ignore that Dunce B. If you knew, what I know about B you’d would have a good laugh! Take care and Be well. Josey

B-man

Hola from INSIDE the B-man’s hard drive ……coming to you live from Washurass North Dakata! Wow B nice pictures in here you Commie Spankmeister! Wow. He really is a dunce! I could show the world what a freak you are but good Lord I’d almost feel sorry for you! To all REGULARS ignore B!!! After seeing all this here, just ignore this Pigdog! He’s mild to moderately “behind” us adults. LOL. B please crawl back under you’re rock! I FOUGHT for this country and watched my buddies die for you! JUST GO BACK TO YOUR ROCK AND LEAVE PEOPLE THAT… Read more »

B-man

Oh, put my screen name in, original. And you dummies really believe her.

tom k

Some of us are old enough to remember the lying CBS “Guns of Autumn” piece supposedly about hunting.

Paul

I’m so tired of the lying media and their agenda to help and carry this administration, we need to get control back and make these people pay for what they have done to conservatives like myself.

Eric_CA

Paul, I always believed that we need a Voter ID law. So we can stop the dead and illegals from voting, and win our Country back. A Voter ID law is “common sense.”

Kaya

I haven’t read ALL of the comments, but why didn’t anyone in the interview bring up that to stop criminals, is to actually PREVENT them from becoming criminals to begin with?! PARENTS are responsible for their child’s upbringing! SCHOOLS are responsible in large part in a child’s upbringing…. When parents step up, and HELP their own children, and teach their children to be good, respectable adults, then crime might just slow down a bit! And man, just for the record, Katie sure is one dumb, blind Bitch, isn’t she? GEEZ!!!! She got mad when they talked about the mass stabbing… Read more »

Raymond Miller

Kaya,I don’t know if you have children or not, but I had a son that I did everything I could to keep him straight and it just never took. He has passed away now and so he is finally at peace with him self. You can only do so much with kids, some of them are just not controllable and are always in trouble. It was a constant fight to raise him. It’s easy to say what one should do, but there’s just so much you can do. It seems that some of them are born for trouble.

Kaya

Hi Raymond, Yes, we do have kids. They are still a bit young, not in HS yet.I am SO sorry to hear about your son. And, you’re right. We TRY to do everything we can to raise our kids the way we want, and in your case it didn’t turn out. But, you TRIED! You gave it your all. And that’s saying a lot! Some parents don’t do ANYTHING to be a parent, leader, influence for their kids. Some parents actually push their kids in harms way. I have several family members that basically let their kids raise themselves. And… Read more »

NotATool

Thanks, TEX!

NotATool

Janek, the B-man just doesn’t get the subtleties of the issue. Like perhaps the fact that people who have fought (or died fighting) Nazis, for example, have, in fact, resulted in the protection of his 1st Amendment speech which B-man is alive to exercise today. B-man is happy to assume that because we are supportive of gun rights (which happen to be a 2nd Amendment Constitutional right in the United States) then that must mean that we have “blood on our hands” for any deaths at all that have occurred as a result of use of guns. Of course, if… Read more »

Wild Bill

Both of you guys are right about the trolls. They get paid by the response so they throw something in that is more shocking than my pasture fence, then they are off to some other site to repeat the process. They are never going to engage in a thoughtful discourse. That takes time and reflection, which in turn reduces the number of responses and their paychecks. I think that not responding to them but rather about them to someone else deprives them of a “response” or maybe they are on salary!
Sending you all a thoughtful and grateful D-Day.

B-man

Notatool, Are you serious with that example of milkshake and hamburgers? Really guy, I dont want to hand out anymore insults but why do you gun supporters make examples that make no sense?? The correct response to your post is your your name “Notatool” a gun is not a tool for anything productive. All of the examples you dummies make are with tools or necessities of Life therefor are not comparable or a fitting example. A more fitting example would be other things that are created to only kill and destroy, like a grenage for example or maybe a pipebomb.… Read more »

NotATool

Dear B-Man, Indeed, I was being “serious” with the example of milkshake and hamburgers. But as I suspect you suspected, I was also intending some mild and constructive sarcasm (nothing malicious about it to be quite sure) with my previous remark, which presented a fictitious story about knives and other tools being instruments of death. By the way, the pseudonym I chose for this forum, “NotATool,” was intended to indicate that I am not a tool. For example, not a tool of the establishment, or of the matrix, or of the mainstream media, or of the two-party-dead-bird… you get the… Read more »

Eric_CA

Thank you for listing your references. A few weeks ago I finished reading “More guns Less Crime” by John Lott Jr. A very academic data driven book.

B-man

Noatool, ITS GROUNDHOG DAY! At least I can say thanks for your half decent response as oppossed to the others here who respond with incoherent and racist remarks. Dude, your example of needing a gun to put food on the table was applicable about 200 Years ago, about when the 2nd ammendment was ADDED to the Constitution. It is not needed Today for putting food on the table. Did you see the documentary? I guess you think its a lie when the documentaey shows how the CDC is not allowed to research anything about gun statistics AND that they are… Read more »

NotATool

1) It’s not Groundhog Day. That was on February 2nd. 2) A gun is still just as needed today as it was 200 years ago (probably even moreso). Self-sufficiency does not solely rely on a gun, however, you should become more sufficient by decreasing your reliance upon the state, and taking care of your family and community, to that end, garden and grow, hunt, and build. It will also be helpful to (as much as you can) avoid using traditional financial institutions; you may wish to explore utilizing alternative currencies (including virtual currencies), barter systems, time banks (which happen to… Read more »

B-man

All you gun supporting manipulated dummies have blood on your hands for all the innocent deaths.

Janek

Perhaps you can explain how that is?

TEX

Janet,just ignore this pissant !

TEX

Meant Janek !

TEX

Janek,just ignore this pissant !

Wild Bill

Tex, anyone that thinks farmers are unemployed or hicks is either ignorant of what it takes to feed the word or is turning a blind eye to how sophisticated farmers are. Farming requires the equivalent of several college degrees in Animal Husbandry, Veterinary Medicine, Gasoline Engine, Diesel Engine, and Machinery Mechanics, Marketing, Transportation and traffic laws, Chemical Herbicide, Insecticide, Biological Germicide Ecology and Environmental Protection and finance. And as you know, Tex, they only have eighteen hours per day to employ that knowledge and those skills. In the next twenty years, those farmers are going to have to figure out… Read more »

B-man

Why, thanks for asking Janek. Unlike these unemployed farm hicks, I actually work and do somethimg with my life instead of planning how the world is going to end and living life in fear. The answer to you question is, in short, liability usually never falls on just one person or just one single reason. Though people want it to be like the way it is because its soooo much easier to just point fingers and say “Dats the bad guy” Did any of you even see the movie or are you just focussing on the silly part that fox… Read more »

Raymond Miller

Ya, we go into Sh*tcargo and murder blacks every week just for fun. We could cut the gun deaths by 75% if we took them away from the blacks.

Kaya

And the Republicans are the ones letting terrorists in? And giving Muslims more rights than they deserve? Sure! Build ANOTHER mosque! You’re a PEACEFUL religion….
Pssshhhttttt….. I’m pretty sure it’s the Dems that are letting anyone and their dog enter this great country all in the name of ‘equal opportunity’. Sure guy, come on in! Oh, I’m SURE you’re not a radical Islamist. And I’ll protect you from all those evil REPUBLICANS that just want to drink beer, shoot their automatic assault weapons and fly their silly flags.

NotATool

Just remember the reason that Couric (and many other MSM reporters) are given agendas and are “strongly encouraged” (in other words, paid) to either lie or simply promote a “government” (a.k.a. corporation-state) agenda in such a way that the government agenda appears as part of their “news,” is that they (both the news organizations and the corporation-states) can have legal immunity for this sort of reprehensible activity under the little-known Smith-Mundt Act. As a result, there are now almost no limitations on domestic propaganda in the United States of America. This is because The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal… Read more »

TEX

@NotATool,great article ! I really enjoyed it.

Tog

She did the same thing to the videogame industry when she had them on her talkshow.

Josey Wales

Anyone notice geek BUD isn’t posting anymore??? Gee, I wonder why….my “guess” and it’s only a “guess” is that his hard drive and ALL PROGRAMS ARE “PROBABLY” no longer operational. My “guess” is that it all had to be replaced. Perhaps it was just bad “luck” or bad “timing” maybe even an unfortunate series of events conspired to require a whole new system. It’s ashame. Really saddens me as I’m sure it saddens us all!!! Onward and upward. Josey

Wild Bill

I did notice. If you ever need to hide out… I mean… vacation… I have a guest house that you are welcome to.

TEX

@Josey Wales,it’s nice to have gee dud gone. Perfect ! Thanks.

Eric_CA

I’m speculating that Gee Dud became SuperMan … I mean Super Dud who might be in co habitation with Superwoman. Just speculating.

Wild Bill

Speculate no more. He (or maybe she) admitted it.

B-man

Josey, who the f**k are you lying about hacking my computer? My computer is not hacked and I am sure you dont have the ability to hack a f**king piece of wood let alone a hard drive. This is the same responses and lies gun supporting dummies do and is a perfect example of how you guys lie all the time and to have something to fight for in your purpos-less lives.

Maluka

She has always been a lying POS like other liberals. She would not know a true story if it hit her in the head. She has been dumped by other networks and Yahoo should flush their couric toilet and dump her. Hey Yahoo clean up your act and become an American again-FLUSH THE COURIC TOILET.

Cea

Why is it that we’re not calling for the lying whore to “step down”? Forced out of the business! Disgraced!
If it were a conservative journalist, the Leftists would be all over the idea of ruining their career.
Double standard Dummy-crats!!!
We need to fight fire, with fire…

Wild Bill

Cea, to whom should we make this demand?

Cea

Her network, of course. But, being of the same ilk, they will just blow it off.
Still, for actions to take place, something has to be done or said. The Leftists (really L cubed…Leftist Liberal Loonies) wouldn’t pass up the opportunity.

Rob

4th Generation Warfare Handbook Kindle Edition
by William S. Lind (Author), Gregory A. Thiele (Author), this book tells what they are doing. a very good read .

george

Couric Undermines National Tranquility

Gene Ralno

Perhaps Katie can find redemption down at MSNBC with comrade Brian. Such brazen dishonesty is precisely the reason conservatives refuse to give another inch to these corrupt leftists. Most of us find this revilement totally unforgivable. All my friends now are opposed to even the tiniest tightening of rules. Fact is conservatives no longer trust leftists. I’m surprised conservatives acknowledge the existence of these charlatan leftists. To Bloomberg, Schumer, Hassan, Inslee, Cuomo, Brown (both Kate and Jerry), Malloy, et al., from now on the answer is hell no. Resolute defiance of any infringement is the new rule. Conservatives not only… Read more »

Wild Bill

I agree Gene, No more compromising. Resolute defiance of any infringement!

TEX

The socialists know that law-abiding firearms owners are just that,law-abiding ! We ain’t easily prone to anger and rage,they know that too. We play by the rules and expect the politicians we elect to respond to and handle our grievances through the political process and by law. The socialists keep pushing and now it’s gone to shove ! Those politicians have thrown us under the bus and continued to give Obama everything he wants. They are the cowards that created Donald Trump ! We won’t be pushed/shoved around no longer !

Mike Murray

Is anyone surprised?

Mike McAllister

I would use another word to describe her and it sounds like witch!!! POS is another way to describe her.

CountryBoy

She is just another member of the Pravda West Media with a Democrat Agenda….

She would make Stalin so PROUD !!!!

Mark P

Journalists like Couric will NEVER understand the gun rights issue. In their minds any reduction or elimination of guns is a good thing that would promote their utopian vision of a government run peace and love existence of which in a perfect world is great but unfortunately an unattainable fantasy. Gun owners are simply street smart practical, logical, common sense advocates in the real world of where bad people will always exist.

cedarcreekman

Need to go get some hot tar and chicken feathers and dress this cesspool parasite in high fashion! She is the ultimate of a cesspool parasite!

Eric_CA

The liberal anti Second Amendment people will fabricate and spin anything to suit their agenda. Take a look at the following Washington Post headline:

“Hillary Clinton doesn’t want to repeal the 2nd Amendment. But in 1991, George Will did.”

WP trying to spin ones misguided position.

b

#KatieCouricSucksMonkeyBalls

george

B, here’s another one for you:

#_C_ouric_U_ndermines_N_ational_T_ranquility

Scott Danko

This practice by Katie Couric is very deceptive and she has lost all credibility.

Pat Webb

FYI, B-Man, many of those interviews who support your civil rights (including the right to call people names and threaten them with bodily harm when you disagree with them) are survivors of criminal attacks and that is why they carry…many of them are still here because they were legally armed. We ARE the statistics and don’t need one-liners. And please get help for your anger management issues.

Wild Bill

Hey Pat, recently the Clinton campaign admitted hiring people to go onto websites and push the liberal agenda, with the stated goal of making conservatives feel isolated and alone. B-man could be one of them, based upon his, ” You are a Dying breed of your Grandpa’s mentality.” language.
Trolls like him get paid by the response. The more you respond, the more he gets paid. Nothing that you ever write, nor facts or statistics that you present will ever change his patter.

Pat Webb

Not really worried about changing his mind. But others on here see the response (like you) or the lack thereof and may get something useful from it. 🙂 And that is why I didn’t hit reply to his post but just posted a general reply to the article. Thanks for the input.

B-Man

Lol,only bunker buying “the World is ending” dummies like you guys believe stupid sh*t like that. Ha,ha,ha I wish I was getting paid for this. Oh, and tex, you should hope to never cross my path. See, I am not a liberal nor am I a demacrat that you ******** *** pro gun **** usually talk about. I am part of a new era of Americans that are going to fight against the destruction of this Great Country that you dummies cause.

TEX

Bill,the Clintoons like to use surrogates for their dirty work. The Elizabeth Warren attacks on Trump are evidence of just that. Trump will handle this bull*shit easily and destroy the liberals.

B-man

Aah yes, the B-man is back. You guys crack me up with you one-liners (Clintoons, Bwuss), wtf…. LMFAO! Its exactly what I predicted. You have been so manupulated by the extreme capitalists and you are either too dumb or too proud to say otherwise. For the exception of supporting the national retard association, I actually support Trump but I have no loyalty to him, I just agree with a lot of of his remarks, and not to mention that he is the only one that he is the only one that has the balls to tell Bush 9-11 happenned on… Read more »

george

Facts about what?

B-Man

You pro – gun MORONS are grabbing at straws with this story. None of you are victims or have Family that are victims. You are a Dying breed of your Grandpa’s mentality. The funny thing is you have no arguement when it comes to statistacal figures and when your confronted with these facts you default to an idiotic “one liner” statement. There is only one instance in which guns should be used and that is to shoot pro – gun supporting dummies!

TEX

Bring it on piss*ant ! I’m not hard to find !

george

Tex, the worthless little ******** isn’t significant enough for any of our time. And the sissy pussy whip is certainly not going to take on any of us, they all hide behind a woman’s skirt when things get intensive. The one thing I find interesting in his miserable diatribe of bilge is the reference to facts, the gutless bed-wetting sons of bitches are totally lame when facts are on the table because they always show in our favor. They talk about facts but they are utterly clueless. And some parting shots of verifiable truth are, they have substantially less than… Read more »

TEX

@moomoo,you’re right !

B-man

George, you are an idiot. What facts are always in your favor?

Eric_CA

George, I agree, he is a worthless little turd. How does he know that “None of you are victims or have Family that are victims”? Furthermore, one doesn’t have to be a victim to know that personal safety is important because sooner or later one might become a victim.

Moreover, his comment “There is only one instance in which guns should be used and that is to shoot pro – gun supporting dummies!” reflects some sort of instability. Just another reason why guns are important for self defense and deterrence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

B-man

See George, no facts are in your favor. Tell me olease if any.

george

You are not a worthy candidate for cranial banter.

In closing, I’ll just point out that a worthless vaginal cavity is….well, just a worthless vaginal cavity. Nowwhatayathinkathat?

SGM Mike Settles, AUS, Ret.

Are you serious?
Really?
Have you actually looked at the “Statistics” you decry?
At best, your venom is misplaced.

Chris

You name should be BS _Wuss

Josey Wales

Just a guess, and only a guess, “B” may end up with similar computer problems as GButt? And the source of it leads to a city in North Dakota named Washurass. Look it up. It doesn’t exist but that’s where the IP address leads. In the time it took to write this post, I have found out that “B” is only a Bot posting only for $ on a device with an outdated Intel processor that………… from this point forward is the processor used to post this. “B” it’s a no-no to threaten the lives of people. I FOUGHT for… Read more »

B-man

Tex, I am always willing to “arrange a meeting” with little fags like you, anytime.

Wild Bill

Oh my! I’d like to see that. Some one, who is unworthy of naming, has picked the wrong Texan, the wrong state, and the wrong culture to mouth off to. I support your civil right to travel. I encourage you to have meetings in Texas. But can you notify us all in advance because I, for one, would like to be there.

Pat Webb

Update: This is now being dubbed “Gungate” by many in the media, including left wing outlets. I guess they hung themselves with their own rope! 😉

In the mean time, Google “Katie Couric Fraud” to keep the stories high up on the ratings.

Chris

Katie “Goebbels” Couric wants to be part of the Hitlery Clinton administration. #GettingTheOldGangBackTogetherAgain

CPT of a Well Regulated Militia Unit

Seems to me that a good defence for any/all future interviews/ news casts/ events/ conferences and films is to have your own cameras/videos filming and keep a nice copy of what you said/ was said… no problemo, you got a tape too.

Good job! Keep the faith my friends!

laythg

Another comment in this silly show “Did you know there are more gun shops in the U.S. than Starbucks and McDonalds combined?” haha. WHAT?

Dr Dave

It is actually true. Based on ATF documents there are more FFL’s (which according to the report would mean each is in some way a gun “shop” be it that most are scamming the system to buy guns at wholesale.) There are more FFLs then Starbucks and McDs in the USA but so what. There are almost as many actual guns as citizens of the USA as well (320M vs 310M guns) and about 1/3 of the USA actually owns or possesses a gun but so what. The issue is that ANYONE can ANY argument and spin it to their… Read more »

laythg

Good clarification Dr. D. I hadn’t considered what they really meant was FFL’s. It’s a stretch to go from an FFL to a “gun shop”. As you said MANY FFL holders do not use their licenses for a “gun shop”. Most FFL’s that I’ve used are just a guy in his home.

Thanks again for the clarification.

Wild Bill

Dr. Dave, I don’t mean to quibble, but I would not call it scamming. After all our dear president wants us to have or obtain a FFL if we sell more than one gun from our personal collection per year. I think that if a hundred million gun owners applied for their FFL all at the same time, it would be a fine thing.

Eric_CA

Hey Wild Bill, I don’t know the particulars of an FFL. However, it seems like an end-around way for gun registration. What do you think? Is it gun registration in disguise?

Wild Bill

When the government comes for our guns, they will have a copy of every ammo purchase of yours that they can get their hands on. They will list that rifle, shotgun or rifle on the warrant. When they serve the warrant, they will also take any other rifle, shotgun, or pistol that they can find. The feds don’t care how many agents, metal detectors, hours, back hoes, crowbars, or bolt cutters, it takes. Nor do they care about what kind of mess they leave behind. If it takes destroying your entire barn board by board to execute the warrant, then… Read more »

Wild Bill

My apologies Eric. I did not mean to make with the negative waves. I guess that I am tired. It has been a long day. I think that the pres. wants to slow down selling from our private collections. If we have to go threw the process of getting and FFL and doing an instant check to sell that second (or more) gun, then the pres. figures we won’t sell that second gun.

Dr Dave

A fine thing if you believe that one should be using a business license and the HUGE hassle in obtaining one to get personal guns at cost. the gun industry would collapse on its own weight if your suggestion was to occur. FFL’s are for people with legitimate intentions to buy and sell for profit. I see BOATLOADS of guys who jump on the ease at which one can obtain one to undermine the entire industry of legitimate gun shops. If one is to get an FFL they should have the exact opposite thing happen then Obama requires they need… Read more »

Wild Bill

My comment was somewhat tongue in cheek. Your comment “FFL’s are for people with legitimate intentions to buy and sell for profit.” is not a requirement of the law. And buying low and selling for a profit is what the individual and the gun shop owner, both, do. One is just smaller than the other. The individual sole proprietor could find that he is good at the trade and become a gun shop. Or the gun shop owner could retire and down size. I see no ethical dilemma about getting around a law that should not exist in the first… Read more »

Eric_CA

@Wild Bill, apologies not necessary.

Pat Webb

Well, if you do Cerakote or are a gunsmith you need to have an FFL. Many of these guys rarely or never actually sell guns, but they are required by federal law to have an FFL.

dave patten

Keep up the good work, forwarding this to all .

Ron Hatfield

The set up was at 1 hour 36 min. She asked for silence for a sound check.. Everyone who knows anything about doing a sound recording knows is that you do the sound check at the beginning, not the end of an interview…She did not get the “right” answers to her questions so she basically screwed everyone in the interview and manipulated the tape..

Josey Wales

Oh no!! A FEMALE MIHAEL MOORE!! GOD HELP US

fishunter

I watched this so-called documentary and the best thing I can say about it is that the half-truths were clearly outright lies. Anyone who is familiar with gun laws would know that it was a hoax and one-sided. Only the uninformed or ignorant could believe what was said in this show. I believe it was just another black eye for journalism!

Raymond Miller

You mention the uninformed and ignorant are the only ones who will believe what was said. Well Billy and Obambam were both elected to two terms each, so there must be a whole bunch of those ignorant and uninformed out here.

Josey Wales

Oh no!!!!! It’s the female version of Michael Moore!!! GOD HELP US….

james

Need to post the audio on youtube so the truth is known to all.

Eric_CA

Lying beeotch!

Remember “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”

She should be banned from interviewing Second Amendment supporters.

fool me not

She should be be from Media Period!!!! She don’t Know or DON”T Care how to play nice in the sandbox!
Rule Number One— Don’t Talk to Journalists OR News People.

Mike McAllister

Just another liberal POS!

Badman

Why are you surprised at what Couric did? They edit all interviews to support their agenda. Quit giving interviews to these assholes. All they are going to do is use you.

Wild Bill

Bad man, good advice!

CountryBoy

Just more examples of how our Pravda West Media continues to make Stalin PROUD !!!!!!!

john

katie has special rights you don’t have, she is allowed to lie and mislead, it is called journalistic privilege. There is not one thing that will happen to her for doing it. She is in the higher echelon, Law does not apply to her, only you lower people. She is of the ruling class. You are sheep, do as you are told. Stop criticizing Katie, she has nice legs and she is above your miserable lot, in life.

GomeznSA

I applaud your desire to get the truth out, especially to the antis but y’all should have known up front that this would end up being a ‘hit piece’ against gun folks. She has an extensive track record of being anti-gun (and probably snit freedom as well). Several commenters have mentioned law suits, that might be in order. I don’t know if VCDL got legal advice prior to the sessions but probably should have. And a stipulation that retained rights to view the final product for both content and obvious ‘editorial’ bias. Lessons learned………………

Pat Webb

We fully intended this to be a “hit piece” in spite of promises to present a “fair and balanced” documentary (listen to her promises on the audio). But she has played into our hands by such a blatant abuse of the public trust. What we need to do now is to share this travesty far and wide, with people who are not necessarily gun owners but who care about civil rights and about integrity of the media. If we can do that, watch Ms. Couric hang herself with her own rope. But we must be careful to stay on the… Read more »

Pat

that should say fully expected, not intended 🙂

Dr Dave

Absolutely agreed. You should have gotten legal counsel before the deal was cut and you would have found out that the piece had an agenda. Did you not realize when she was in DC filming and could have gotten the likes of the NRA to join the piece instead of some small state support group that the NRA had already told her “get lost” as you should have as well. being realistic if any gun supportive group thinks for one second that ANYONE is going to do a positive piece on gun support in the current age of politics and… Read more »

Pat Webb

It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. We knew it was a hit piece, but if no one spoke on the side of the freedom-loving civil rights activists (us) the line would have been, “We asked several groups for their side but they were too ashamed to participate.” At least this way we got SOME of our view on the air, and most of it was decent under the circumstances. Now the task is to expose the shameless manipulation on their part. This can be a feather in OUR cap if played right, but we need… Read more »

Eric_CA

Well, you tired. Now you’ll realize there is not integrity on the Left.

Pat Webb

We knew that going in…this isn’t our first rodeo 🙂 That is why we recorded the interviews (all of them).

Wild Bill

Well, Pat, we will do our best to pass the word. Keep up the good work, but should a journalist contact you again get a media attorney or just say that you can’t fit it into your schedule. Don’t let the bastards grind you down.

Eric_CA

Get some stipulations in order. No more carte blanche.

hippybiker

What is the difference between Kouric out jogging and a midget, mastermind, criminal? Answer…one is a cunning runt.

Fed Up

sooo true!!! ROFL

Pat

What do you expect from Katie. She is Hilliarys girl, rumor has it they slept in the white house together. The truth is not necessary in American journalism. Sue I say sue

Danny Willard

You are free to believe and say anything you want to the liberal, lying, distorting, media so long as it agrees with what they want you to say. There is no longer a situation of “reporting” news and events. The current situation is distorting anything to get the results you want so that you can sell more advertising to the left leaning gun grabbers. Please remember, the media and government do not want to take away your guns out of some sentiment for possible victims of a shooting by a lunatic, they want your guns so that they can control… Read more »

HMLA-167 Warrior

What are the legal ramifications of such blatant alteration by the media of a response to a question that they have asked? Surely there has to be something… This is misrepresentation in its grossest form. Had I been one of the persons who immediately answered that question and this had happened to me, I do believe that I would be discussing with legal counsel how I was harmed, both emotionally and actually – in my personal and professional reputation – by this manipulation of my answer. When the current media cannot find the answer it wants it simply makes it… Read more »

Otto Didact

“What are the legal ramifications of such blatant alteration by the media of a response to a question that they have asked?

Sadly, none, depending on which side of the political aisle you occupy. I believe that the very phrase, “journalistic integrity”, is an oxymoron. Today’s so-called “journalists” have – with all too rare exception – neither integrity, nor honor nor morals. Their only compass is the end toward which they work. Any means – I say again ANY MEANS – is acceptable and proper in pursuit of the sacred end.

Alex

“What are the legal ramifications of such blatant alteration by the media of a response to a question that they have asked?” Depending on state law, there’s a tort called “False Light Defamation” which would apply here. However, establishing damages might be difficult in this particular case. Many states recognize “defamation per se,” which recognizes that some statements are defamatory without proof of actual damages (e.g. accusations of job incompetence, having a venereal disease, or commission of a crime); but this seems like a case where the plaintiffs would have to plead and prove that they were harmed by the… Read more »

Raymond Miller

She has all of the required credentials, Female, News (?) person on a Socialist Network, and Demon-Crat party. She can do what ever she wants and say anything she wants whether it is true or not.
In fact if she can produce a false documentary and get away with it, she will be a hero and get mucho cu does from her piers. The only thing, like Hill-o-sh*t, she is missing is the skin color, if they had that then that would make them Queens in the sick minds of Demon-Crats, and liberals, maybe even RINO’s like Ryan and McConnell.