Florida Pulse Gay Bar Mass Shooting was in a Gun Free Zone

By Dean Weingarten

Pulse Nightclub Orlando Overhead
Pulse Nightclub Orlando Overhead
Dean Weingarten
Dean Weingarten

Arizona – -(Ammoland.com)- Yet another Islamic terrorist mass killing takes place in a gun free zone, this time in Florida.

The mass public killing that took place in Florida this morning at the self described “Orlando's hottest gay bar“. From the pulseorlandoclub.com:

 Experience Pulse, a world of fun and fantasy. Orlando’s hottest gay bar located in the heart of downtown. Step inside Pulse and savor the taste of three unique worlds: The Lounge, Ultra Bar and The Adonis Room. Since 2004, Pulse has been serving up unmatched live entertainment and tantalizing liquid libations, courtesy of our renowned staff and entertainers. Check out our upcoming performances and join us for an exciting and unforgettable night of fun and fantasy.

It is clear that Florida law prohibits people from legally carrying guns into

Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose.

Bars are one of a long list of places that Florida establishes as gun free zones.

From Florida Statutes leg.state.fl.us:

(12)(a) A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into:
1. Any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05;
2. Any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station;
3. Any detention facility, prison, or jail;
4. Any courthouse;
5.  Any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom;
6. Any polling place;
7. Any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district;
8. Any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;
9. Any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms;
10. Any elementary or secondary school facility or administration building;
11. Any career center;
12. Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
13. Any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile;
14. The inside of the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or
15. Any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.
(b)  A person licensed under this section shall not be prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes.

Florida has the most concealed carry permits issued of any state in the nation, but it did the occupants of the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando no good because it is a gun free zone by state law.

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About Dean Weingarten;

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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    karenszoo
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    karenszoo

    “The bar entrance was patrolled by armed off-duty policeman who was subdued. The idea that alcohol-consuming patrons in a a low-light situation would prove superior should be taken with some salt.”

    The cop wasn’t subdued. He retreated. It was his job to protect the bar’s patrons, and he backed off. Then the SWAT team waited around for 3 hours, while patrons bled to death. Within the confines of the bar, it’s fairly likely that an armed and cornered patron would have shot the attacker to death or at least slowed him down.

    kbbl
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    kbbl

    The bar entrance was patrolled by armed off-duty policeman who was subdued. The idea that alcohol-consuming patrons in a a low-light situation would prove superior should be taken with some salt.

    Charlie
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    Charlie

    Gun free zones don’t work. In a gun free zone only the criminal will have a gun. If only one other person in that bar had a gun and knew how to use it the outcome would have been quite different.

    kbbl
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    kbbl

    Are you excluding the armed policeman that was guarding the door? If so, why doesn’t he count?

    jay
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    jay

    Here’s an idea no guns for Muslims period!

    Khaaannn
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    Khaaannn

    Illegal: Separation of church and state. Also: Congress shall make no law protecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. In short, pointless to talk about as it would gert overturned by the supreme court even if it did pass!

    stan the man
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    stan the man

    Yes howd that work out wait on the cops while everyone’s getting killed

    Jay
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    Jay

    Gun free zones.

    They make perfect sense. We don’t need to defend ourselves , just “wait for the police”

    How’d that work out?

    stan the man
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    stan the man

    Worked out well for him he didn’t have any resistance

    kat
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    kat

    The shooter obviously did his homework and targeted a gun free zone….He had been a security guard for nine years..He was questioned by the FBI at least 2x . He had no criminal record…. and gun control would not have applied to him as a security guard….This is a sad situation but until we wake up and realize that we are at war with Isis and actually declare war on Isis ..we are all in danger. Obama said we were winning the war on Isis just a few months ago…really? Does not look like it to me.

    soapstix
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    soapstix

    Even when there is a devastating event that takes place such as this one in Florida, People use it for their own agenda, and politics. That is just lame, to say it nicely. Those of you who want to arm everyone just might want to think how many more people would be buried, since people tend to panic in such situations. We don’t need a shootout in the midst of a crowd. Maybe it would be wise for places where many people gather had more security. I don’t know if that would work, because someone intent on killing and full… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    Hmmm…someone that thinks soap comes in sticks telling us what to think. Why shouldn’t we think about why they got harmed? Is it hate to analyze the circumstances surrounding the shooting? Why would you want to choke off debate by make in baseless accusations of “preaching hate” before we make a thoughtful examination of the incident?

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    I think that you, soapstix, are using this to push the liberal agenda, and yes, that is lame. You would replace a meaningful ability to defend one’s self with a lot of propaganda, presuppositions, and potentialities.

    Osha
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    Osha

    At least the guhvmit is calling it a form of terrorism this time and not workplace violence.
    Guns don’t kill people, people that lie about bengazi kill people.

    John Gardner
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    John Gardner

    Obviously the gun free zone sign at a venue like this should have been larger and possibly even in neon!

    Sneaky White 13
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    Sneaky White 13

    50+ DEAD…..Gun free zone stupidity. Piss poor shooting by the first responders ON the scene…allowed the isis-sunni..POS..TO DUCK BACK IN FOR MORE SLAUGHTER…DAMNED STUPID FL LAW…Also…one report MENTIONED the muslim-sunni..killer was “on their radar” ..whomever is the radar operator needs to be tried for complicity as they allowed this POS TO REMAIN FREE..GUARANTEE HIS mulim SUNNI..BUDS ARE CHEERING AND ARE INSPIRED TO KILL MORE GAYs & INFIDELS IN GUN FREE ZONES. ISIS IS CELEBRATING TOO. WAKE UP YOU DUMB-ASS LIBS TO THE ISIS SUNNI..THREAT IN THIS COUNTRY. Time to get SERIOUS!!! ALSO…TIME FOR MORE FIREARMS MARKSMANSHIP TRAINING TO KILL ACTIVE… Read more »

    shawn kelley
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    shawn kelley

    I’m sorry for those people that lost there lives its a terrible thing it should not happen in the usa!!!! BUT!!!!!!!!! i don’t need any high minded politician telling me that banning guns is the answer! the libs could not wait to turn it into a gun ban issue!! so since they did!!! do not come out and tell me that i don’t have a right to a least try to protect my family or property or innocents!!!! this to my fellow 2nd amendment believers we must stand our ground legally and not let these progressive idiots call us the… Read more »

    jay
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    jay

    10-4 good buddy!

    shawn kelley
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    shawn kelley

    we’ll here they go again telling the average citizen or gun owner they don’t have the right to protect them selves!!
    because as we know barrack and company has done such a good job of protecting the home front!!!!
    for those of us that believe in the 2nd amendment i hope we will stand together and fight for our right legally and responsibly to protect our property, innocents, and family!!!!! its not legal gun owners that mass kill!! lets call it what it is muslim terriost!!!!!!

    AL Bing WI
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    AL Bing WI

    I wonder if we will actually get an after action report published. The report of an explosive vest/belt might explain the delay in attacking the target quickly. Was SWAT early on the scene early and did they know how many lives were at risk if explosives were involved? Did they train for this kind of scenario – especially after Paris? Chances are that we citizens will never be informed of the true happenings – too much CYA. While we need to hold our police accountable, we also need to support them in getting the training they need.

    Chris2414
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    Chris2414

    Shades of Paris. No one able to defend themselves. Victims of government laws against law abiding citizens.

    Steven M Hayden
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    Steven M Hayden

    It takes men with guts willing to die for a good cause to defend justice. Power flows from barrel of a gun Mao.

    Non Hyphenated American
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    Non Hyphenated American

    The only result of gun free zones is increased casualties and death. When a bad guy with a gun isnt confronted with a good guy with a gun this is the result. The peoples Right to keep and bear arms shouldn’t be negated due to location. •The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is to protect themselves against tyranny in government. – Thomas Jefferson
•Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of arms. – Thomas Paine
•The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed, which Americans possess over the people of every other nation.… Read more »

    Steven M Hayden
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    Steven M Hayden

    African American were deprived of right to bear arms and treated as slaves in US. Only men had right to vote until 1920 because men fought and killed with guns for their rights. Real freedom is not given ; its taken with a gun.

    Littlejohn
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    Littlejohn

    Great another reason for Barac Osama Binladin to push for taking away our only way of protecting ourselves from these terrorists.. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the government wasn’t involved and set this up just to push for an all out firearm ban. Vote TRUMP and let’s take back our nation!! Eliminate gun free zones so we can protect ourselves from these terrorists!!!! F.U. Hilliary you psycho, you should be in jail not running for president.

    soapstix
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    soapstix

    You are heartless and preaching hate, when you should be thinking about the people harmed instead of your politicizing it.

    Tom Bats
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    Tom Bats

    At this point, thinking of the victims does nothing for them. A donation blood/cash may help the living. The hated insurance companies will pay for all expenses. I see we have a whole bunch of hypocrites, concerned about the victims. What ever is done is done. Let’s fix it so it doesn’t not happen again.

    Khaaannn
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    Khaaannn

    They are dead, this is a fact. They were unable to defend themselves, this is a fact. I don’t think trump is the answer and I know Hilary isn’t! I don’t care about politics, only lives… This man was a security guard, so would have had firearms access regardless, the only way to stop him is to remove the certainty of his victims being defenseless!

    stephen milata
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    stephen milata

    WAIT!!!; YOU HOMOPHOBIC PARANOID TRUMP GROUPIE, DID YOU JUST SAY IT WAS OUR GOVT. WHO SET UP THIS 50 PERSON MURDER SO AS TO SWAY PUBLIC OPINION INTO OUTLAWING GUNS? YOU CHOKE ON YOUR OWN WORDS OF STUPIDITY AND PARANOIA JUST LIKE YOUR TRUMP CHARACTER WHO INSERTS HIS FOOT EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH! YOU JUST KEEP IT UP. THOUGH.YOU DIG YOURSELVES A DEEPER AND DEEPER HOLE, AS DEEP AS YOUR SKULL DEVOID OF BRAIN APPARENTLY.

    Littlejohn
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    Littlejohn

    Stating my opinion in a public forum. There’s no way my words would ever (sway public opinion), you are proof of that. Not (homophobic), this is the United States, I believe in the land of the free. By far a (groupie) I am a U.S. Citizen and can vote for whom I choose. As to my statement about the Government you can change my words around all you like but if you think our Government hasn’t been part of some of the biggest conspiracies in the world you are the stupid one. Just do some real digging on sandy hook… Read more »

    Steven M Hayden
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    Steven M Hayden

    A distrust of government is a good idea.Look at Ukraine its another fake democracy run by Clinton and Victoria Newland puppets .Three hundred protesters were killed by US sponsored coup in Odessa.When US government takes your guns you can meet the same end. No one has attacked the VFW because their armed to the teeth and know how to defend themselves. Defend the Constitution. Freedom is protected from barrel of a gun held in hands of an honest citizen.

    fom
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    fom

    not from the terrorist but from our government an Democrats,

    STEVE
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    STEVE

    YOUR RIDICULOUS PARANOID RANT OF GOVT. INVOLVEMENT IN THIS TRAGEDY JUST TO SWAY PUBLIC OPINION TOWARDS AN ANTI-GUN SYMPATHY IS AS RIDICULOUS AS A TRUMP PRESIDENCY WOULD BE TO OTHER COUNTRIES. ALLIES OR NOT. I JUST CHOSE TO COMMENT UNDER YOUR POST BECAUSE I FEEL I WOULD REACH THE MOST ANTI-GUN SYMPATHISERS.
    ONE PATRON WITH A GUN COULD HAVE ENDED THIS SIEGE. (PERHAPS)

    Thomas
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    Thomas

    yeah you wonder why they do not allow you to carry a gun in a bar… mixing guns and alcohol … what could go wrong.

    Vincenzo
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    Vincenzo

    In AZ it’s legal to carry with a permit in bars as long as you do not partake.

    Khaaannn
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    Khaaannn

    Agree, but I prefer concealed (hidden) to open, to prevent drunk gun grabbers!

    stephanie
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    stephanie

    it’s why, in California, you can’t drink in an Stripping establishment that is full nudity…. too many men who can’t control themselves when they drink….

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    The BATFE set up operation Fast and Furious for the admitted purpose of getting more Americans killed. The BATFE hoped that then more Americans would call for gun control. Before operation Fast and Furious was revealed to the public, I never would have thought that bureaucrats and politicians in our government would go so low as to do things hoping to get Americans killed just to forward their political agenda. So maybe…

    stephanie
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    stephanie

    he does NOT want to take away your guns…. ugh!

    https://youtu.be/6imFvSua3Kg

    Lori
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    Lori

    Oh yes he does!!! He wants to disarm every American citizen so he can be the next Hitler!! We will all be under Marshall Law and he will still be the pos potus for the next four years if he isn’t stopped. Just to clarify…the shooter took out an armed security guard at the door before he went in and was in the club for over 3 hours before he was killed. If anyone else had been armed at least there might have been a chance for some of those 49 to still be alive. We need less “Gun Free… Read more »

    Robertsgt40
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    Robertsgt40

    I expect the official narrative to unravel by sundown, much loke past false flags. We’ve already jumped from 20 dead to 50 in last hour. Minor oversight I’m sure.

    Dee
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    Dee

    It appears they’ve been given the green light to make their presence known in the US,,, meanwhile, ISLAM JIHAD’s have been practicing gorilla warfare on US soil in 35 different locations, since 1984, when the first camp opened in Islamberg, NY. The FBI knows they are here. Before the US sends our troops to fight terrorists in the mideast over this tragedy or tries to disarm innocent American’s by making gun laws more strick, why don’t they focus on disarming the American based ISLAM JIHAD SOLDIER’s first? Neighboring citizen’s to these gorilla warfare camps have complained about the heavy arterial… Read more »

    ReadyforMonica16
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    ReadyforMonica16

    Your disgusting for dancing on the blood of the dead.

    Another brainwashed NRA zombie showing his true colors.

    useyoursense
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    useyoursense

    Hey ReadyforMonica16, sounds like your readyforsometherapy, for a reality check. You and your ignorant ilk have no problem running out to scream gun control only hours after any incident. That’s not “dancing on the blood of the dead”. What a hypocrite. Fact: Law abiding citizens lawfully licensed in Florida to carry a concealed firearm, in order to do so lawfully, would remove their firearm and leave it in the car before entering the nightclub. Your problem is, you can’t handle hearing the truth, and that is: that if the law didn’t prohibit them from carrying in that nightclub, the possibility… Read more »

    MarineFirstUSArmyAlwaysAmerican
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    MarineFirstUSArmyAlwaysAmerican

    I served my country so all Americans with or without guns have the right to live without fear of individuals that have angry issues and just loose it with irrational judgement when owning a gun. As a Marine and in the Army a rifle that was meant to kill is up to the operator to use it with the judgement of the training to use lethality against stupidity and extreme prejudice against what “our country” stands for in freedom and justice against hatred and anger brought or instigated by random rantings of individuals trying to make an egotistic. narcissistic, self-serving.… Read more »

    Craig
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    Craig

    Well spoken!

    ThinkLonger
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    ThinkLonger

    This article quoted Florida State Law. I do don’ see how that correlates to NRA or brainwashed. A couple other facts: 1. It appears the shooter was a security guard with permits to carry guns. The concept of banning all guns would therefore have to include security guards, police and possibly military. 2. The concept of a security guard at the entrance of the venue doesn’t work so well as they are the first target and at a major disadvantage as their uniform points them out as a target that needs to be taken out first. 3. All but 1… Read more »

    Steven M Hayden
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    Steven M Hayden

    The lone shooter stunt does not work at the VFW.

    David
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    David

    You seem to have a negative opinion of the NRA. What’s your solution to situations like this, more gun free zones? Say what you will, you don’t see terrorists showing up at NRA rallies do you? That’s because terrorists are cowards. They need to pick targets that don’t present resistance. You think by sticking your head in the sand, this will all go away? Many Liberals are social theorists. The problem is that no matter how much you believe in a gun free utopia, it’s not going to happen. Forget about so-caked common sense gun laws. Enforce the existing laws.… Read more »

    karenszoo
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    karenszoo

    “That’s because terrorists are cowards.” Muslim terrorists are wicked. They are pitiless. But they are not cowards. In these United States, they are pitting themselves against literally millions of paid, full-time law enforcement personnel, if they get away. Given that many Muslim terrorists seem to be bent on one-way missions, I’d say they are the opposite of cowards. And that is the heart of the problem. They are heroes to a certain segment of the Muslim population. Without our vast wealth, we’d probably have to resort to collective punishment, which is more or less how Muslim countries deal with the… Read more »

    Steven M Hayden
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    Steven M Hayden

    The shooter must have visited the gay bar before. Otherwise he could not have such high casualty count. He targeted the bar .What had happened to him at prior visit? There is much to the story that s withheld from public.

    David
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    David

    Are you trying to rationalize what he did?

    Bob
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    Bob

    I don’t think he’s trying to rationalize anything. I don’t know how you interpreted his comment that way. I think he’s just trying to get information on how the mass shooting was planned. It’s amazing how so many people interpret things wrong these days and how so many people are offended by just about everything they hear. Grow up!

    Shhh
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    Shhh

    Imagine one guy with a rifle shooting 50 plus and killing 50 plus. Three hundred homosexuals in a bar that likely was over the capacity. If each one had thrown a bottle a glass or an ashtray or a chair, the attacker would have been overwhelmed. This is what happened when the attacker attacked the Marines in Texas. Yes those who attacked him with a broken bottle would die but they would make a sacrifice.Better to die fighting evil that tolerate evil. Was that their belief? Instead they died crawling away from shooter rather than confronting him shot in the… Read more »

    NICOLE Hunsberger
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    NICOLE Hunsberger

    Are you kidding me there is no reason at all for someone to take the lives of innocent people. And why did he have to be there before what about other mass shootings that have happen in out country did every one of those shooters been there before. This man is sick and should have the full extent of the law thrown at him. There is NO EXCUSE for what he did.

    Steven M Hayden
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    Steven M Hayden

    Its called motive.

    Mongoose
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    Mongoose

    That’s (30 miles) down the road from me.
    Immigrant muslims do not assimilate, they subjugate.