Sen. Joe Manchin Reveals Gross Contempt for U.S. Constitution

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Sen. Joe Manchin Reveals Gross Contempt for U.S. Constitution
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NRA – Institute for Legislative Action

Fairfax, VA -(AmmoLand.com)- “Due process is killing us right now.”

No, those aren’t the translated words of an officer of the East German secret police or a Soviet commissar; that comment was uttered by United States Senator Joe Manchin (D-W.V.).  When Manchin assumed office on November 15, 2010, he took an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” Given his outward hostility to a foundational tenet of our constitution, the manner in which Manchin could most effectively uphold his oath would be to limit himself to a single term.

On Thursday, Manchin took to MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” to talk about ongoing efforts to restrict the Second Amendment rights of Americans. The discussion centered around legislative proposals that would extinguish the Second Amendment rights of those the federal government merely suspects, correctly or incorrectly, of having some sort of connection terrorist activity. Manchin explained:

The problem we have, and really the firewall we have right now is due process. It’s all due process. So we can all say we want the same thing, but how do we get there? If a person is on a terrorist watch list like the gentleman, the shooter, in Orlando, he was twice by the FBI. We were briefed yesterday about what happened, but that man was brought in twice. They did everything they could. The FBI did everything they were supposed to do. But there was no way to keep him on the NICS list or keep him off the gun-buy list. There was no way to do that … due process is what’s killing us right now.

The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution restricts the federal government, making clear, “No person shall… be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” The Fourteenth Amendment restricts the power of the states in a similar manner, guaranteeing that a state may not “deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” The principle outlined in these amendments dates back to 1215 and Magna Carta. Rather than viewing these vital long-standing protections as essential to our free society, Manchin appears to view them as a hindrance that must be overcome.

To be sure, due process does impose a severe obstacle to autocrats. The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments’ due process protections serve to protect every right enjoyed by every American, making clear that none of our rights may be dispensed with in an arbitrary manner. In most contexts, prior to stripping a person of their rights, the government must provide an individual with notice and an opportunity to be heard, and there must be a neutral decision maker involved.

Many outlets have picked up on, and rightly criticized, Manchin’s contention that due process is a unfortunate hurdle to violating rights. However, other portions of his statement are similarly troubling and display a lack of basic understanding of the Constitution he swore an oath to defending.

Manchin noted, “The FBI did everything they were supposed to do. But there was no way to keep him on the NICS list or keep him off the gun-buy list.” Is Manchin under the impression that in order to purchase a firearm Americans must be placed on a list that permits them to do so? Is he suggesting that this should be the case?  If so, we would suggest a remedial course in the basic structure of federal firearms law.

Under current law, an individual seeking to purchase a firearm from a retailer provides identifying information on a Form 4473, which is then used to conduct a background check using the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). If the government does not have information that you are disqualified from firearm ownership, then the sale may proceed. The government is not tasked with finding that you are eligible to possess a firearm, the government has the burden of finding that you are ineligible to possess a firearm. Rather than the government affirmatively granting you the ability to exercise your rights, the government must prove certain factors in order to restrict those rights.

The current battle to diminish due process protections implicates far more than just the right to keep and bear arms. This is why principled individuals from across the political spectrum have recognized the dangerous erosion of due process that some of the current legislative proposals represent. ACLU National Security Project Director Hina Shamsi wrote in regards to using secret lists to bar gun ownership, “standards for inclusion on the No Fly List are unconstitutionally vague, and innocent people are blacklisted without a fair process to correct government error.” Civil liberties journalist and commentator Glenn Greenwald wrote in a piece for the Washington Post, “That Democrats, who once found such due-process-free no-fly lists appalling, now seek in the wake of San Bernardino and Orlando to expand their use to ban gun purchases illustrates how easily terror attacks induce an abandonment of reasoned analysis.”  An abandonment of reasoned analysis, indeed.

With his recent comments, Manchin has displayed a gross disrespect for one of the most basic protections our constitution affords. Sadly, given the clamor in the U.S. Congress for renewed gun control measures, this disrespect appears to infect more than just a few of our elected representatives.

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  • 10 thoughts on “Sen. Joe Manchin Reveals Gross Contempt for U.S. Constitution

    1. Benjamin Franklin once said: “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    2. The fact that the Orlando shooter was a wife beater, should have kept him from buying a gun !! The fact that he was a muslim gave him a pass from Obama !! All the gun grabbing democRATS, squeal like pigs about the constitution keeping them from doing what ever they damn well please !!They should all go to hell the sooner the better !!

    3. West Virginians always get a bad rap because most there are working people who don’t have time to keep up with all the political nonsense. But I keep pretty well up on things because I’m retired. I’ve read that Manchin conceals abuse of his voters by voting for their interests when he knows an issue will lose. And of course he trades with other democrats who do the same to their constituents. He makes it seem like he’s doing right by them when he allows others to deny it. West Virginians should have caught on to Manchin’s shenanigans now that he’s had his way with them. And perhaps they’ll break with tradition and elect conservatives who would keep coal viable, increase free enterprise opportunities by lopping off large chunks of regulation and reducing taxes.

    4. As a former Marine, a retired Criminal Justice practitioner, and now 67 years old, I am currently more afraid of our United States “govern”ment than at any time in my life. Our elected officials know little if anything about our Constitution, about what our forefathers were thinking about at the time it was written, or why it is so critical to comply with the letter and the intent of the law. To them, our Constitution is simply a “hindrance” to them in their efforts to seek a quickie solution to any problem. We no longer seem to be able to get real thinkers into positions of leadership in our government. Joe Minchin is just another in a long line of mental midgets – long on political charisma and short on the “right stuff” that makes a person a legitimate “leader of free people.”

      1. The intent of the any author(s) is often difficult to determine and therefore open to debate. Therefore honest persons of good intention will often disagree in deciding on intent. Hence the Supreme Court will issue split decisions which reflect difference of opinion as to what the framers intended. In order to determine intent, one should start with statements in the immediate context. Next, one would look at how the issue is addressed in other areas of the document. Next we look at other uses in other documents by the same writer to look for clues, and finally the accepted use of the terms at the times the authors wrote.
        The Second Amendment reads “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to bear Arms shall not be infringed.” Each phrase here is open to some discussion and debate as to meaning, but the context must not be ignored. Definition of Militia must determined. It must be “a well regulated Militia.” It receives it orders from Congress (Article I; sec 8) which also provides for its organizing, arming, and disciplining; also Article I, sec 8. How to fit all this into 21st century America is open to honest debate. I write not as a legal scholar, but as an interested citizen who has a copy of the Constitution before me as I write.

        1. Well regulated does not mean by Congress you ignorant hillbilly. Well regulated means disciplined and well trained . You are just another ignorant person twisting words that don’t exist.
          Try taking a Constitution class.

        2. The US senate issued a statement back in 1987 if I recall correctly, that the modern National Guard is not the Militia as envisaged by the founders. It is, ever since Teddy Roosevelt signed the Dick Act in 1903, essentially a Federal reserve army. It has tables of organization established by the Federal Government, and in some cases that I know of, it’s units are commanded by regular officers. The original Militia Act of 1792 specified that every voting citizen (“free, white, males” in 1792) should supply himself with a suitable firearm and train with the militia unit of his community. Company grade officers were elected by the members or sometimes appointed by the selectmen of the township. Field grade and general officers were appointed by the state legislators. It did not take it’s orders from congress. In emergencies, the militia could be called into Federal service, but it seems that statge governors had some say n that. During the Mexican War, except for one company of volunteers, the Vermont militia seems to have refused to go, as Vermonters felt that the war was just a trick to expand territory for slavery. I think that this colds fit very well into 21st century America. But our rulers do not see it this way. It is hard to run an oligarchic empire with armed citizens.

    5. If you were contemplating a move to West Virginia to escape ‘East Coast Liberalism’ forget it!

    6. A “government list” should scare every American, it is what the KGB and SS did. Without due process anyone can be on @the list” and deprived of their rights. It should be difficult for the government to deprive anyone of their rights, thus it has to be proved, the reason there is the 5th and 14th amendment. I think Joe needs a refresher Constitution 101 course.

    7. I guess it is a pipe dream to see him impeached and removed from office. Abraham Lincoln was right, our destruction will come from within. The agency in charge of NICS checks has stopped due process as well, and is refusing to hear appeals from those wrongly denied their rights. This doesn’t bode well for us as a country.

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