Top Five Long Range Cartridges – The Best of the Best

Long-range shooting expert, he literally wrote the book, L.P. Brezny, makes his case for what he thinks are the best Long Range Cartridges.

The Long Range Cartridge Line up
The Long Range Cartridge Line Up:

L.P. Brezny

United States -(AmmoLand.com)- First off, a number of you won't like what I have to say on the subject of long range cartridges.

Prior to starting this material I interviewed several hard nosed long range shooters and asked each of them the same question. “Name five of the very best long range cartridges please”.

In each case, I got a totally different answer, except for a possible single round of ammunition, and that was the tried and true 300 Win Mag of which I own several rifles and totally agree. You see this is the problem here. Everyone out there in AmmoLand has their idea of the best of the best, and in most cases, it starts with what they own in a rifle, and shoot themselves. With that in mind, I turned to an old saying that I have hung my hat on for many years. The saying goes like this.

There are the three “P's” when it comes to the best of the best long range rifle rounds, and as you already know, I am about to tell you about each of them : Performance, Practicality and Price.

When evaluating a cartridge that adapts well for a very long shooting down range I like to look at the rounds performance ability, practicality in the field, and finally the price per round.

Somehow the idea has been floating around that shooters are made of money now-a-days. The fact is nothing could be further from the truth. Making a more modest round have some staying power is the key to success, but in so far as my task, it is to select each round based on a number of factors that center around the best of the best long range cartridges, so here is the whole deal in an ammo can.

50 BMG Long Range Cartridges

M-2 Ball 750 gr 50 BMG in links. These make great rat lodge destroyers in a prairie dog town at long range.
M-2 Ball 750 gr 50 BMG in links

Say what you like, but nothing fired from a human shoulder can touch the big bad 50 cal cartridge. The fuel cell is so outstanding that the bench mark 30-06 cartridge was the basis for it by the developer John Browning in his search for an anti-aircraft round. The big 50 will send a 750 grain bullet down range at 2700 f.p.s., then destroy almost anything in its path that ranges from barricades to warm targets. In terms of ranging ability the massive bullet will stay awake (above the speed of sound ) and clear out to 2,500 yards before someone puts a pillow under its head. Shooting the 50 cal requires a whole lot of rifle, and in this case I have owned several, but today shoot a very straight forward Steyr H.S. 50 with cut rifling, and it is so accurate that it has held world long range titles for back to back years across the board.

Practical? No, but a great deal of fun when shooting off the tops of bad lands mud butts at a mile away.

Price per round? Very high but through outfits like Century Arms, and Federal Cartridge ( American Eagle ) case lots are half that of much smaller long range rounds. In terms of performance. Well, nothing was feared more then an American sniper and his 50 Barrett in the sand box.

On that note I rest my case.

408 Chey-Tac Long Range Cartridges

408 CheyTac Long Range Cartridges
408 CheyTac Long Range Cartridge

The 408 CheyTac has a mixed history of both success and failure, but in the area of pure ballistics it is a very deadly gunning system. As a total long range wildcat round with no parent case at all, the round is unique, and the time I have spent behind a custom McMillan turn bolt shooting this cartridge can be considered memorable at the least. Some will say the 416 Barrett commands more respect then the 408, but being a bit old school, and liking the added velocity of the big “8” over the 416, it still takes top billing in my book.

The 408 Chey-Tac sends a 419 grain solid copper ultra high BC bullet down range at 2900 f.p.s., or a somewhat light weight pill being 305 grains at a blistering big bore 3450 f.p.s. That's hot in terms of a big round, and I have a close neighbor in the mountains that shoots over a mile off his back deck at a lime stone bolder on the next mountain over for kicks on any given Saturday afternoon when the wind is right.

338 Lapua Long Range Cartridges

338 Lapua Ammunition
338 Lapua Ammunition

Viewing the whole best long range cartridges subject as you care to, in most cases the real heavy weights in cartridge selection will boil down currently to the 338 Lapua. From grain weight options, price point per round, practical applications, and performance at long range, this cartridge is just about the best of the very best as a long distance shooting choice. Like the previous offerings just covered, the 338 Lapua is a military generated round that has been developed by the Fins to replace the 50 BMG, 416 Barrett, and the 408 Chey Tac as a long range snipers tool.

As 338 Lapua ammunition has built an outstanding track record among military snipers and sportsmen alike this option is here to stay.

300 Winchester Magnum or just Win-Mag

300 Winchester Magnum
300 Winchester Magnum

The short form here is this 300 Winchester Magnum cartridge is a massively popular go-to round due to cost per round down range, options in rifle available as chambered in the 300 Win, and its performance even at ranges well beyond 1000 yards.

Currently the US Army has gone to this cartridge when chambering their turn bolt Remington 700 action sniper rifle, ( M-24's, ) and when applying a new round to chassis rifles like the Remington 2010 sniper platform, among others.

Snipers needed to get past 1000 yards, and that meant turning to more cartridge and more bullet to do the deal.

Now the 300 Winchester Magnum can hold off mortar crews and small unit snipers to ranges beyond 1500 yards all day long in the mountain of Afghanistan. As a long range big game round or hard steel target cartridge this is a top contender, to say the least.

Hornady's 6.5 Creedmoor

Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor
Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor

Hornady's Dave Emery ballistic expert broke the mold on this one, and now after almost two full years of testing by way of four different rifles at, and beyond 1000 yards here in western South Dakota, I can say for a fact that we are seeing the next rising star in long range shooting.

Why the best of the very best?

Because the 6.5 Creedmoor will stay with and exceed a pile of cartridges, not break the household bank account, and is quickly growing in terms of cartridge brand options and bullet types. Sierra has just released the 130 grain TMK in 6.5 caliber, and Hornady offers the brand new cold tip ELD-X in a 140 grain Match bullet this summer. With the new Federal American Eagle offering in a 140 grain “hollow tip” pill, and Winchester's 140 grain Match ammunition, factory loads are everywhere. Black Hills ammunition is considering very seriously offering the new round, because I believe due to the Sierra bullet options now available to this high quality cartridge company.

In just handloaded bullets, Berger has now built a new 130 grain VLD that will drill prairie rats to 800 yards all day long. By the time this copy goes to press I would not be surprised to see still additional bullets and loads coming to volition.

I believe that the 6.5 Creedmoor could be the 21st century 30-30 in terms of general popularity down the line.

Brezny with Browning X Bolt 6.5 Creedmoor, Cartridge 120 grain A-Max Hornady

About the Author L.P. Brezny:

With more than 50 years experience in the field and the testing lab, author L.P. Brezny is one of today’s most recognized shotgun experts and authors. He is a contributor to dozens of firearms publications, such as Wildfowl, Shotgun Sports, and Varmint Hunters, and he is a regular columnist in the Gun Digest annual.


AmmoLand Editor Comments:  This article was updated to reflect changes in product improvements / availability on 08/29/2018.

  • 542 thoughts on “Top Five Long Range Cartridges – The Best of the Best

    1. Allen – a high school friend of mine from Klamath Falls, Ore – great athlete – became a Marine DI (much to his father’s chagrin – as Dad was a USAF fighter pilot) and competed in the Marine annual shooting tournament. I also communicate with noted hunter/writer (retired Brig Gen) Craig Boddington who did as well – and I put them in touch to reminisce. My friend said as one who had other Marine duties – being a DI in SD – he couldn’t practice all that much – and the offhand score was what kept him from getting to the “finals” – whereas Craig was stationed – at least once – where he could practice all the time.

    2. Tom Schiff:
      I never had the pleasure or opportunity of meeting Carlos Hathcock. I did one time run into his son at Quantico, back when I was shooting rifle competition there, as a civilian competitor. Great rifle ranges, in the worst possible location, comfort wise, Washington D.C. weather, which is terrible.

      Worked a match with a Marine Gunnery Sgt. shooting at Cherry Point. We ended up shooting the two man team matches that were held on Sundays, individual matches shot on Saturday. Some years later I read a book about Hathcock that made mention of his back-up man/spotter in Viet Nam. It was the guy that I shot matches with at Cherry Point, whose name has slipped my mind.

      With the 30-06, first a Garand, later bolt actions, I did reasonably well at 1000 yards, on the old 5V target, usually shooting in the mid 90’s,once the proper elevation change from 600 to 1000 yards was pointed out to me. It was in the Big Bore Score Book of course, but I hadn’t looked at that page. Shooting 1000 yards with the 308 was for me, an exercise in futility. Shooting 600 yard slow fire, iron sights, I could hold inside the 10 ring elevation wise with a 308, usually loosing a few points to the wind, which-at Camp Perry could become something to contend with. If I had ever worked at it, off hand that is, I probably would have made Master, as it was, I got to Expert. Not to bad for a city kid from Brooklyn. As I said before, hunting never interested me, target shooting and reloading were a different story. Happy holidays to you and yours.

    3. OMG – I would have loved to have shot at Camp Perry when younger. Love the stories from Carlos Hathcock? watching the flags to finally just get in his last shot when they went flat. Hunting in the woods in Southern Oregon – rare to have a shot much longer than 100 yards – but Buddy – the Indian (now called Native Americans) who taught me how to hunt when I was 12 – shot his Mule and Whitetails thru the eyes to prevent waste. Buddy was a family friend/patient of my Dad’s – and he used a 30.06. He was a WWII Marine sniper in the Paciic – as good of a shot as I have ever met, and the nicest guy to boot.

    4. LOL Georgia. RE: JUST SHOOTING AT Targets long range. My dad – old Doc Schiff – grew up in the recession and one did just not waste ammo. Shooting in Oregon was to fill the freezer! That said – even once having been on a college rifle team (AF Academy – 1964-5) – I am finally looking to some long range – 1,000 yard plinking – now at spry 72 years of age.. ‘Splurged” for a used Weatherby Mark 5 – in 300 Win Mag – to supplement the trusty old 30.06, and put a decent scope on it – a Burris E1 – 4.5-14 x 42 – which will suffice for hunting out to 500+ yards. If I really get the long range shooting bug – will upgrade to a Vortex $1,000 scope. 🙂

      1. Tom:

        I have you by 13 years, and gave up rifle competition a while back.That said, a Winchester made Garand, I once owned did quite nicely out to 1000 yards in matches at Camp Perry and Quantico. Later on, post 1964 Model 70 Winchester Standard Target rifles, caliber 30-06 with Redfield International or Olympic sights. Never found Magnum Calibers either necessary or worth while. I was never a hunter though

    5. Deer hunting this past week end very disappointing using my browning safari 3006 and my until now trusted 3-9-50 Bushnell legend ultra hd it went from very great image to a very bright image look on all pwr settings for sure Bushnell will hear from me next week let ya know wut happens this went from very good to pos in very short period of time

    6. I am not a long range shooter but My savage 10 in .243 is good on white tail out to 400 yards with a Burris predator Quest 4.56×14.5×42 is absolutely a fine optic and very easy to see clearly at any range.

    7. I have shot several deer with the federal power shok cartridge never a problem always been correct amount of blood and damage deer didn’t go far but a trail to follow for sure Saturday morning if my dad didn’t just happen to see him we would have lost this deer why this one didn’t bleed…? Anyone have an idea what went wrong

      1. I’ve researched a little bit best I can figure is the chest cavity just filled with blood wen it should’ve been coming out the exit wound why that happened at this time it’s mysterious to me I’ll stay with same cartridge and see wut happens got to be a fluke to many deer have fallen to this combo…. mystery to me lol

    8. Shot a 5pt buck Saturday morning hit square in tha shoulders 150yds ran 50yds absolutely no blood at all lucky to find him easily as we did destroyed bot shoulder entry and exit holes impressive but did not leave on drop of blood only a big chuck of hair found no blood what was the problem 308 federal power shok 150gr have killed several deer with this cartridge no problem at all got to be a fluke

    9. I am really surprised no one mentioned the .25-06, Great long range caliber and has been around for a long time and is easy to reload, I am a hunter and longest shot was about 538 Yards with my 338 win mag. Never tried 1000 yard shooting, but it sounds like a nice retirement activity. Thanks for all the information.

    10. I do have other rifle scopes and yes I do really like my bushnell legend it’s an awesome scope for what I do that is deer hunt I don’t just shoot for fun I shoot for meat thanks for ur advice sir

    11. I think this is a great blog and love all the dynamics – but for most situations – I would take my trusty 30.06 and my 1911 .45 Colt or Glock .45. If you think you are going to be in a shootout with terrorists types – a good semi-auto – AR 15 whatever. Anyone shooting over 500 yards at game had better really know their equipment, shooting conditions – especially the wind, how to have a very solid position/stance, etc and have practiced continuously before going hunting.

    12. Funny how the 6.5 Creedmoor is in there over the 260 Remington while the Rem goes 100-150fps faster on a bad day. Even the old 6.5×55 will outmatch the Creed. Is the Creedmoor better because of all the advertising? Seems like that’s the only thing that’s made it popular…

      1. That’s the only thing advertising.260 will beat it all day.Tell the public horse shit is good to eat all the time,you will have some believing it.Creedmoor May shoot alright,but to keep advertising it’s all that an a bag of chips is to much

        1. ust bought a Howa 1500 HLR, 24 inch heavy barrel 6.5 Creedmoor. No problem loading for it to shoot 2850+ with 140 gr. No primer distortion. Have not pushed it yet, but see the Creedmoor as a round easy to develop with all the choices for it. Im sure the 80+% of the long range world class shooters are not hype bitters. These guys are factoring coriolis effect into their calculations. I doubt very highly that they are dumb enough to not understand caliber type balistics. Sorry guys its the real thing. Our planet loves the .264 boolits. When these guys go out to play, their homework and caculatuons are not hype, but mathematical and mechanical ballistics expertise. The 6.5 Creedmoor is the choice of over 80% of them. OBTW it can kill just as well as make very very small ragged holes in targets. Need I say it again? Shot placement. Left to right drift is the only thing these guys can’t predict/calculate. Enter .264 Creedmoor. Drop is no problem. The Creedmoor has the perfect combination of low drift, doesn’t need a ton of powder to keep it supersonic out past 1300 yards, easy on recoil, not a barrel burner, short action. Need I go on. No it’s not hype to the greatest shooters on earth. these guys are way smarter than that. If I want to kill a Grizzly or Kodiac, I’ll use my .444 Marlin, but for deer, elk,mullies, I like the 6.5 Creedmoor to place a perfect shot needed to take down game that requires shot placement within reasonable distances. I am sure if the 25-06 is better, someone will prove it. But I have not seen that proof as of yet. As far as horse shit, I used it once as fertilizer.

          1. And as I said before,the 260 will out do it all day. I am sure you like your little gun.Everyone has their own opinions.They are just like assholes,everyone has one. Build what you want,I don’t see all the hype in the cm , to much other stuff out there

          2. Shootit,

            You’re off topic. The point that was made is that the 260 Remington will shoot faster than the 6.5 Creed. I’ll add that it is every bit as accurate. The fact those who shoot long distance with it study their loads doesn’t mean that their choice of cartridge beats everything else in the same caliber. It’s a good cartridge but so are the others. I agree with Rick and Doug that its popularity, not on its own because it is well deserved, but compared to the others is very largely due to good marketing. Would I shoot one, sure I would. Would I shoot a 260 Rem, of course I would. Which one would I pick for hunting ? The 260. Although I’ve hunted for several years with a 25-06, my preference these days if I were to pick a 6.5 for hunting would go to the 6.5-06 which is simply outstanding. As it is, I’m more of a 30 caliber fan. I’ve enjoyed a plethora of other calibers, bigger and smaller, all great but I keep going back to a 30-06 or any 300 mag. I’ve shot my 30-06 for years at varmints. I’ve missed in the field with other calibers, better and faster ones, but I have not missed once with the 30-06. It’s about practice. You like the 6.5 Creed. It’s an excellent cartridge, absolutely no doubt. If you practice with it, you’ll be well rewarded in target shooting or the hunting field. It’s what you like but it isn’t what’s hyped that’s better than what’s more low key. It’s an excellent cartridge but it is not better than the others 6.5 just because it’s popular. There are others…

      2. Only thing close that I have is 223 in savage bolt gun for deer hunting it’s pretty damn accurate with a Simmons’s Aetec 2.5-10-44 phillipines made great set up shoots hole in hole at 100yds easy

      1. Qldmarine >>> H
        i just purchased the Eleminator III and planning on mounting on a 224 but haven’t gotten it yet.
        there is a lot of choices for the 224 but need to do a lot of research before picking out the one to get.
        Oldmarine.

      2. I save money my hunting rifles always get 150gr or 180gr depends on caliber I’m shooting 308 r 3006 for deer hunting my best is Federal power shok shot them all but for the money Federal will always get my dollars

    13. My Long Range go to Cartridge has been the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. I’ve been able to produce reloads of this cartridge to shoot in my Remington Model 700 Long Range Rifle that can achieve great results in bullet weights from 150 gr., 165 gr. , 180 gr. and factory ammunition that’s available at 210 gr. ELDX and 220 gr. ELDX.
      It’s not only versatile but incredibly accurate maintaining energy on impact that exceeds the results of most of the cartridges that are popular in this day and age.

      1. I completely agree I also have a 300 RUM in a Remington sendero with a night force G7. I shot a bull elk at 980 with 37 inches of wind drift 1 shot and he dropped love my 300 RUM. I hand load my shells with 105 grains of hodgens retumbo powder with a 180 grain Hornady sst great load for my gun

    14. My Long Range go to Cartridge has been the 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. I’ve been able to produce reloads of this cartridge to shoot in my Remington Model 700 Long Range Rifle that can achieve great results in bullet weights from 150 gr., 165 gr. , 180 gr. and factory ammunition that’s available at 210 gr. ELDX and 220 gr. ELDX.
      It’s not only versatile but incredibly accurate maintaining energy on impact that exceeds the results of most of the cartridges that are popular now.

    15. I think the Bushnell model you speak of – Georgia – 3.9 40 MM Ultra HD- has been discontinued – but still may be in inventories somewhere. Also saw good reviews for the Vortex Diamondback – around $229 or so?

      Still looking at the Burris Veracity – 3×15 50 MM – around $500 for a used demo model.
      And pretty much decided on a Tikka T3X in 300 win mag – Stainless for $699 – guaranteed sub MOA – and universialy good reviews – with the caveat you might have to experiment to find the right load for your particular rifle.

      1. Yes the legend has been discontinued but u can still find used if u hound ebay looking for one they are worth look I don’t really care much for the vortex not very impressed with what they offer but thanks

        1. Can I count a browning 3006 safari with a Nikon prostaff5 2.5-10-50 as a long range hunting rifle I’ve shot deer at and over 300yds with it does that qualify as long range

        2. Yes the bushnell legend ultra hd has been discontinued I got all mine before bushnell made the changes haven’t tried any of ther new models yet but seen some good reviews on them Bushnell has been around selling rifle scopes for a long time some are good some not as good but anything from the legend or above are fantastic rifle scopes for a type of shooting or hunting

          1. Oldmarine >>> GO
            I know you like your Bushnell scope but you should know that they make a lot of good scopes but the one that is favored by many Long Range shooters is the Elite Tactical XRS 4.5 – 30x50mm at $2,299.99. It has been a favorite at many Long Range National Matches and is quite unique for a 2nd FFP scope. But for the average guy that is more that they make in a month. Bushnell makes 10 different lines of scopes and some are reasonably priced but some are OTL or OOL prices. I have two bushnell scopes and consider them average but reliable. Price wise probably the Banner line is the most cost effect but lacking in innovation. Really their are many good scopes out there all with good points but the scope you trust the most becomes your shooting companion. Long Range shooters have to look certain characteristics in a scope that the hunter doesn’t. A plain Duplex reticle scope is good for hunting at shorter ranges but lone range hunting at 600yds to 1500yds requires more power than 9X power and a calculating reticle and adjustments in smaller values. Bushnell has has swallowed a few other companies and combined the qualities that were good on their scope to the Bushnell scope lines. I can’t knock the Bushnell scopes because they are improving better that most of the higher end scope companies.
            I believe that the scope companies that only improve the looks and charge higher prices will eventually disappear from the market. Your Ultra is a good hunting scope but is not a long range scope. Maybe you would like to try Long range because it challenges your shooting skills more than hunting although it is more expensive and time consuming.
            Maybe Long Range Shooting is on your bucket list??? Good Hunting G.O.

            1. Thanks for ur long thought out response but really I don’t care for long range shooting I buy box of 20 and it may last me a couple years but pray for me a good season so I’ll have to buy a few boxes wen season is over thanks

            2. Thanks for ur long thought out response but really I don’t care for long range shooting I buy box of 20 and it may last me a couple years but pray for me a good season so I’ll have to buy a few boxes wen season is over thanks whitetail deer hunting is what we do

            3. Thanks sir but my grandad would roll over in his grave if he knew I was shooting at something more than twice and couldn’t eat it we eat what we shoot and targets aren’t very tasty last time I tried

      2. Don’t have experience in Burris scope only have used their steel scope rings several times with great success their my rings of choice on my hunting rifles

      3. I speak a lot about my legend ultra hd 3-9-50 deer hunting rifle scope but it’s not the only scope I have just for it’s claity and rugged durability I just love this scope by Bushnell it’s really that good

      4. I don’t really care to much for Burris or vortex got a cousin that shoots both that’s only experience I have with either think I’ll stay with nikon and Bushnell never a problem that couldn’t be fixed lol

    16. Oldmarine >>> Elton P. Green
      Good Info both on the scopes and the Ammo. I have one of my Shepherd scopes mounted on a M1A1 that gives me 90 more MOA of elevation for about 1500 yds.
      I carried a M1 Garand for many years and got used to shooting with it in latter years. After a couple of clips it would heat up and start to wonder around the target, At that time the 30-06 Ammo was probably the most readily available but that changed after the NAM I just got my first Stag AR10 in 7.62 x51 but haven’t got a chance to shoot it yet. I like the 308 and have several other rifles in it. Ammo of ‘not so popular’ and or very large cal. can get very expensive, some of the old stuff can run near to $400 for 20 rounds. Ammo is in demand for some Calibers and the ammo lines most popular seem to run to the small bore since the 223/5.56 from the Vietnam era. The ballistics have become so complicated and massive that a Scope like the Shepherd scope had to be developed to transition into faster and more accurate shooting. They simplify the task pretty much eliminating rang calculations and unknown range shooting without adjusting the scope. I like them because they are made for the AMMO you use the most. I plan to get more of the Shepherd Scopes for my other big bore Rifles. Happy shooting >Oldmarine GOOD SHOOTING

    17. SSG or Mr. Green:

      I never had the opportunity to do any shooting at altitudes you mentioned, however I did do a fair amount of 1000 yard shooting at USMC Quantico, Camp Perry and Stone Bay, as a civilian competitor with both the Garand and Model 70 Winchester rifles. In the Garand, for long range shooting, I used 190 grain Winchester bullets in my own handloads, with what was likely to much 4895, Match brass and Winchester primers. Later on, with the Model 70, post 1964, I used both 190 grain Winchester and 180 grain Sierra,Matchking bullets with 4350 powder, primers and brass as mentioned earlier.

      The above described handloads all worked at least reasonably well, I used to shoot on the 5 V! 1000 yard target in the mid ’90’s with my Garand.About the same with the bolt gun and Redfield Olympic sights.I did shoot a clean at Perry once in a scope match, when it is likely that the fates smiled on my efforts, rather than laughing at them. Never happened a second time though.

      The above offers for whatever they might be worth.

    18. You guys on here quite often see me talk a lot bout the Bushnell Legend Ultra hd3-9-50 it’s not the best rifle scope out there but for the money it’s hard to beat.im a deer hunter come from a long family of the same we just try to doit good as economically as we can and the legend is a great start for that quest. All u big money guys out here try one out if ur like me deer hunting is what do and love. Just wanted to get that out ther for u guys on a budget to see and maybe check it out for the next time u get a chance to pull the trigger on that monster buck of a life time Bushnell upper end scopes won’t let u down and u don’t have to go for the very best to get the job done. The End

    19. BTW – I did not realize Don Burris had originally worked for Redfield (Colorado) – – a scope I always admired. Thanks – and am taking a hard look at Burris scopes. For the money – also like Nikon – and Vortex – and of course – Leupold’s entry level – models – but am willing to spend up to $1,000 on new glass for the Weatherby 6.5-300.

      1. You can spend 1000, go with German glass.The difference is like turning the light switch on and off.Steiner,Zeiss am few others you can get one for that or tad more.You will never regret it

      2. For the money, im using a zeiss conquest on my 270, i have a Leopold mark 4 on my built 308 which ive had out a short distance of 600 yards, nothing to impressive. But what i will say, the money i spent on my Leopold, i could have purchased 3 more zeiss conquests for, i also own a couple of vortex scopes. What I’m getting at here is that buy a scope just my manufacturer or price alone makes no difference, my zeiss has the best clarity of all of my scopes, the vortex id rate as my number 2 and the Leopold, as my number 3. Zeiss started out making microscopes which require major clarity and magnification for there intend purpose and started branching out into other fields, one of which just happens to be an amazing brand of quality , very high clarity and a wonderful ease of operation of hunting scopes for the price point

        1. Clint,

          I had two of those Zeiss Conquest scopes. I regret parting with them. You’re right about their clarity. They truly are superb scopes priced very reasonably.

      3. My entry level experience with leupold was with the 3-9-50 rifleman hated it got rid of it had to have turrets I could hear and feel got 3-9-50 leupold freedom a little better with turrets that work I would never have another rifleman my feelings on them is ther a post opinion if turrets done make a sound ther worn out how then do uno wen they are worn out

        1. Just for the record leupold is way over priced scopes today are just as good maybe better don’t waste time and dollars on one Bushnell will not let u down Nikon has great glass for me I really like the Bushnell legendif u can find one ther superb rifle scopes for bout all hunting needs get out ther and try one ur gonna love it

          1. Nikon will fog ,I tried one side by side the Leopold stayed clear I returned the Nikon, bushnell never has had one worth bringing home

            1. I have all 3 scopes bushy Legend nikon pstaff5 leupold freedom and it’s my least favorite really I prefer the Bushnell legend ultra hd 3-9-50 it’s mounted on a browning safari 3006 man what a great combo and my nikons are crystal clear no fog at all

            2. Oldmarine >>> Tony Peterson
              That’s Funny because there an awful lot of Bushnell scopes at International Long Range Matches. Elite Tactical XRS 4.5-30X 50mm is favored over manny of the high end scopes but you have to pay $2,299.99 to own one. I won’t down talk a scope mfg because I’m always surprised. The very first scope I used was a TASCO on an old bolt .22 and found it was very good at hunting rabbits and squirrels. Used for four years and never let me down once. Bushnell makes a lot of good scopes you just don’t know about them. It’s not my favorite because I like the newer advanced manufactures like Shepherd / Salvo. Have fun with with the scope of choise but there is a lot more out there than you know.

            3. I’ve never had a Nikon fog and Bushnell makes some of the best scopes in the world I got a leupold freedom 3-9-50 prolly will never mount it on a rifle my legend is just as clear as the luppy my Nikons are also clear never had fog even in cold drizzling conditions maybe ur mistaken get a used legend u will be impressed

      1. The only difference in the Elite and a legend is the Argo which is better for moister but for the money u can’t beat a legend I love mine very durable and extremely accurate on my deer rifles

      2. That’s ur preference u can spend big dollars or u can get the same good quality that will last a long time and save money now and get a legend but for the money there’s no difference between the elites and the legends for the money I prefer the legend basically have the same warranty if u ever need it that’s ur personal call at how u want to deal with that talk to Bushnell they will help u make the rite decision and save u money

      3. Like I’ve said Bushnell has some great rifle scopes $799 is still a lot to spend on a tite budget pound ebay get a used 50mm legend u will never look back

      4. The magic in what u said is $200 compared $799 argon is the only difference between the legend ultra hd and the elite my dollars go for the legend for my hunting rifle thanks

      5. $799 or $200 decide ur budget my dollars go to $200 r so Argo isn’t necessary for a deer hunting rifle scope my opinion give me yours

    20. The good reputation of Leupold is on the line with those pos rifleman rifle scopes had one it totally sucked traded it for a freedom so far it’s ok but my favorite is the very affordable Bushnell Legend Ultra hd in 3-9-50 for a hunting rifle scope it’s very good enuff said bout the legend except to say it compared very close to my 2.5-10-50 Nikon Monarch I cant say anything bad about Bushnell Legend Ultra hd rifle scope they are bad ass and stay zeroed also just about can’t beat them for a hunting rifle scope get one u will seeeeeeeeeeeee

      1. @GO, I can not agree with your statement about Leupold’s reputation being on the line with the Rifleman series. That is Leupold’s entry level scope series. And the Leupolds VX Freedom series is supposed to replace the VX 1-3 series.

        1. Correct and I hate the rifleman I’m old skool when ur turrets freely turn their worn out how do uno wen they really are worn out that’s just me leupold confirmed to it wud be ok but again I’m old skool wouldn’t trust it got rid of it and will try the freedom so far all is ok

        2. I have a 3-9-50 leupold freedom so for its ok but for the dollars u can save them and do just as well my legend beats them all side by side except Nikons monarch line I have one in the 2.8-10-50 my legends glass compares close to it again I say the Bushnell legend ultra hd is a superb affordable rifle scope

        3. I’m sorry ther sir but leupold has run the hunting rifle scopes for a long time u can get just as good r better if u look Bushnell has some great scopes don’t forget nikon some of the prostaffs all of the monarchs r better than a leupold I have a legend for its clarity it can’t be beat on a 308 hunting rifle my first leupold was a rifleman 3-9-50 got rid of it fast didn’t trust what they call friction turrets got a freedom 3-9-50 not mounted yet may never but it does seem better than the rifleman I just like my 3-9-50 legend

      2. The elites are great rifle scopes but the legend is just as good for less dollars and they have the same Bullet proof warranty I have a couple legends 1 Elite Nikon Monarch leupold freedom a few Buckmasters old and new their all great scopes but I really like the 3-9-50 legend for the warrantyand the money can’t beat it

        1. For hunting, I think it’s tough to beat Nikon’s BDC reticle scopes. They have been around a long time for a reason. Dial in your rilfe, scope, and ammo using Spot On and you have your holdover’s set. A great reticle for hunters and I have been successful on many shots to 600 yards on deer sized game using my Nikon BDC reticle scopes. I do get that it’s not for everyone, but if you use a rangefinder and know distances of landmark’s, you can be successful.

          1. I have a Nikon Buckmaster that failed on the second rage trip. Shots climbed off the target while the elevation know was turned all the way down. Nikon’a warranty repairs are complex. I’m not happy.

            1. Sorry for ur mishap with Nikon I had a 2.5-10-50 prostaff5 Gail Nikon replaced it with no problems once they confirmed the scope wouldn’t hold its zero job well done Nikon

            2. I’ve never had a problem with nikons warranty on any scope I’ve ever sent back a little slower in the process than I would like but again it is what it is nikon has a great rifle scope got monarch Buckmasters old and new several prostaffs all are great deer hunting rifle scopes

            3. Was that the old Buckmasters r them pos Buckmasters 2 I’ve got couple of them not real Impressed with them guess ther worth nikons warranty Nikon been good to me wen I had a problem but my only problem with Nikon was with a 2.5-10-50 prostaff5 that wouldn’t hold its zero Nikons warranty is great as they say

          2. For hunting the becareful gets in my way I’ve had them and sent them back to nikon never shot one r tried to site one I don’t like the box reticle I prefer a solid duplex glass but Nikon quality is great except the Buckmasters 2 ther sort of cheap and the glass isn’t as good as some other scopes in ther same price range older Simmons rifle scopes r good example Aetec 44mag any new prostaff by nikon is great

          3. I like to hunt and wen I do I want to see only target and my crosshairs nikons BDC is in my way had them got one Buckmasters 3-9-40 on a 22 not real impressed with that type of reticle

          4. Not being a nasty person but I really don’t care for nikons bdc had a few buckmasters2 wen they came out had one prostaff5 with bdc really didn’t care for it in my hunting scope I prefer just a simple duple,for me the duplex is all I need a good zero on a hunting rifle it shouldn’t be very much hold over just aim and shoot deer in the freezer done

    21. For Georgia: What do you suggest for a combo hunting-long range target scope – for $1,000 or so. I am looking at a Vortex Viper and the new? Leopold 3xiii or some such – in powers 3.5 to 15 or so.

      1. Save ur money get a Bushnell Legend Ultra hd3-9-50 & I promise you will never look back it’s a fantastic rifle scope for the money

      2. If u have followed any of my posts u wud c I really love the Bushnell Legend Ultra hd in 3-9-50 it’s affordable extremely accurate for any rifle hunting one may come across I’ve got several top knotch rifle scopes but the legend just stays dear to my heart

      3. A Ruger American 308 and Bushnell Legend Ultra hd 3-9-50 will take to an easy 900yds for around a $1000 or so you will not be disappointed in its results

      4. Sightron SIII scopes are great. Great turrets and repeatability. Quality glass. If you have the cash try one. You will not be disappointed.

      5. Get u a good 308 rifle and a Bushnell legend ultra hd 3-9-50 and I promise if ur a hunter u will never regret it I promise and I don’t even know who u r but I do no for hunting purposes the legend is hard to beat

      6. Bushnell no longer makes the legend ultra hd rifle scope but if u want one hound ebay u can find one not a big fan of Leupolds and no experience with vortex I’m kinda simple like to save $ anywhere I can and still get best quality for my money no more legends new but Bushnell claims what they replaced them with r just as good can’t recall the name of ther New series if interested u can check them out

      7. I don’t shoot long range I deer hunt I can easily take shots 250 or 300 yds not big in just shooting to hear my rifle make some noise sight it shoot at deer r pigs that’s all we do

      8. Nikon has some new prostaffs that are pretty good rifle scopes certainly worth a look. Bushnell does have some crap but from the legend and above their pretty solid rifle scopes at descent prices worth checking them out if ur in saving money for a good product hope it helps

    22. Guys&Gals I’ve deer hunted all my life and I have several rifle scopes from leupold to to Bushnell and Nikon I have a brand new leupold freedom several nikons it’s best being a Nikon prostaff5 2-5-10-50 my absolute best rifle scope is a Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 3-9-50 it’s more clear and durable feeling than any rifle scope I have can anyone explain to me why if Bushnell is supposed to be a Cheap low quality rifle scope why does it win in every bracket against all these other rifle scopes this leupold legend ultra hd 3-9-50 is a very exceptional rifle scope for the money I would put it against any other deer hunting rifle scope

    23. Smed – missed that you had already posted the Wikipedia article on long range sniper snots. And one of the best books ever on sniping – is by “White Feather” – AKA – Marine Sgt Carlos Hathcock – 93 CONFIRMED KILLS . Loved his story about slowly crawling for a day through the tall grass (he had to let the grass spring back up behind him to not show/leave a trail) – and having a snake slither over him – to finally get in position to shoot a VC General at 800 yards (with his trusty 30.06) – and then staying still in the grass while the VC stomped all around looking for him – almost stepping on him – and finally crawling out. His longest shot was when he experimented with a .50 Cal. – and while essentially standing guard – or some such – when he shot a VC supplier riding a bike with small rockets strapped to his back. Carlos thought – what the heck – let’s see what this baby – the .50 – can do – and BINGO. 🙂

      1. on the Winchester web site shows that Carlos use a match grade win 70 cal 308 maybe be it’s wrong maybe right.

          1. According to Wikipedia and Winchester Guns, Carlos Hathcock used a Winchester M70 in 30-06. Neither article mentions anything about tuning the rifles, but since Hathcock used a Winchester Model 70 target rifle to win the Wimbledon Match (1,000-yards shooting – not tennis, although that might be fun) in 1965, it’s probable that Marine armorers at Marine Base Quantico tuned his rifle.

            I would have bet money that Butch was right about the 308! The M40, based on the Remington 700, as adopted by the Corps in 1966 used the 308, so that’s probably the confusion.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Hathcock#Weaponry
            http://www.winchesterguns.com/news/articles/winchester-model-70-in-vietnam.html
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M40_rifle

    24. OK – my latest “dream” is a Weatherby Vanguard in 6.5 300. Smoking hot – 3,550 fps? – 140 g – and shoots flat. Do I really need to become a 1,000 yard shooter at 71 years of age? My wife would say NO – but don’t think she looks in my gun safe very much. 🙂 Pair it up with a decent scope (relatively inexpensive) – maybe from Vortex and have a 1.000 yard rig for under $1,000.

      1. Old Marine >>> Tom Schiff
        I noticed that you might be looking for ” A decent scope (relatively inexpensive)”
        I tend to favor scope line that is becoming bigger every day. ” Shepherd Scopes ” is now run by Salvo Technologies With production in Florida and headquarters in Nebraska. They have the only double reticle scopes that are perfect for shooting at unknown ranges. I found out about them when researching Big Game Hunting in AFRICA. There reputation is very good with Military, Law enforcement and Industry. They are very large company operating in many countries and are very innovative holding the Patten on the double reticle system. Shepherd is a family run as one part of SALVO. The scopes are made specific to the ammo you use. I have used a P1 (308) scope for four years and find it to be good and fast . A different kind of scope with advanced engineering at half the cost of the expensive older name brands. A scope that would cost you about 2k would cost you closer to $800 in a Shepherd. The scope is great at shooting the first target at 300-yds. and the next shot at 1000-yds without ever adjusting the scope for the range change. Checkout the dual reticle at ” https://shepherdscopes.com/dual-reticle-scope/ ” or

        I find it to be the easiest, fastest and fordable scope on the market. That being said have fun shooting. >>> Oldmarine

          1. My recommended scope for big game rifles is a very affordable accurate hunting rifle called the Bushnell ultra hd 3-9-50 it’s a very durable accurate hunting rifle for all my hunting needs just a thot if not interested that’s ok just my 2cents have a good day

        1. OldMarine, I thoroughly agree. I have five of these scopes, four of the P model 3X10’s and one V1 6X18. Two are mounted on .300 winchester Magnums, two are on 30-06s and one is on a Remington CDL in 35 Whelen. They do exactly what they are advertised to do, and I have shot them from every distance out to 1,000 yards in the .300 Winmag, and in the Whelen. I have become a regular at the range here near Colorado Springs so I can practice out to 600 yards with my Shepherd scopes and rifles on steel in windy conditions. As to the best long range cartridges, I tend to agree with the author on his calls, but might add the 30-06 in the right platform, using a powder such as IMR 4350 and the 180 or 190 grain Sierra bullet. At altitudes above 6,000 feet, it will stay ‘awake’ out to about 1,200 yards, and a little farther at 8,000 feet. It is also easier to shoot accurately than the .300 Winmag, due to a noticably lower recoil.
          Elton P. Green
          SSG, USA, INF. (Ret.)

    25. why list the 338 lapula my 338-378 weatherby out performs it in fps and energy ? 338 lapula everyone wants they like the hype 2 many monkey see monkey do people who dont do research and just want the pick of the day from what they hear from others .

      1. People probably chase the 338 Lapua instead of similar, existing cartridges for the same reasons they ignore the Remington 260, Lapua 6.5×47, or 6.5×55 Swedish Mauser in favor of the 6.5 Creedmoor. There is the “Me too” mentality, but then there are people like me.

        I grudgingly bought a 6.5cm because it is the de-facto standard for 6.5mm, short action cartridges. Equipment and components are available in Creedmoor that were never available in my preferred 260, and I know the market is too small for multiple standards. Success breeds success.

        1. You’re right to some extent, however, the 338 Lapua, 6.5 Creedmoor and the .300 Winchester Magnum have all been adopted by either the U.S. Army, or the U.S. Marine Corps and various Spec-ops groups as sniping rounds at this time, supplanting the 7.62 X 51 NATO or augmenting it. Whenever the military adopts a cartridge, its probably going to do well, whether it is the best for its job or simply ‘good enough’. That’s about all that needs to happen for a cartridge to become popular.
          Elton P. Green, SSG
          USA, INF., (Ret.)

      2. I think the big difference here is BC of the cartridges listed along with twist rate. There are other hammers but these stay supersonic past 1000 yds and have very little wind drift / drop at distance.

    26. I’ll put my tried and true Marlin 3030 and Federal Fusion 130gr against anything mentioned here at 1000yards. But I will need time to walk the first 925 yards.

      1. What u claiming to do with that 3030 I no ther good accurate hunting rifles my cousin shot one out to of a dead pine bout 200yds with one shot he also shot several deer over 200yds but I don’t understand what ur gonna do with urs

      2. Lol my cousin shot several deer over 200yds and once he shot a crow out top of a dead pine bout 300yds with one shot for a bet between 2young boys just out having a good time so yes the marlin 3030 is pretty accurate for shooting and hunting

        1. With the leverlution Hornady ammo I can shoot s whole box at 400y steel sitting or standing.its a game changer for that old Marlin

      3. Funny but 3030 is Great hunting rifle my cousin has shot several deer over 200yds once he shot a crow out top a dead pine like 250yds across a clear cut propped on cab my truck and shot him just to see he could hit him that was with 3030 marlin lever action 150gr winchester store bout cartridges

    27. All calibers mentioned would do the job.It’s like the old saying,opinions are like assholes,everyone has one,including me.I’ll take a 308 Norma Mag over 300 mag.As far as the 6.5 creedmoor,don’t know what all the fascination is with it,unless it is just saying a fancy name. You already have the 260rem that will probably out do it.They are almost identical. You could have put any of the RUMS in this category.So I think it is personal choice and what you can afford

    28. Annnnd, they all just got blasted out of the water by 375 spinnela, 400 grain pill, pushed by 200 grains of powder, muzzle velocity of 3300 feet per second, necked down 50 BMG case. Heres the big number. Goes transonic at 3800 yards.

    29. No hell yea’s yet a nd to keep the 3006 safari in tact I need as many as possible to confirm the 3006 is awesome brobama totally sucked as his job as president of the United States of America glad he and his Secretary of State shcrillary clinton are gon the both are very bad for these United States of America glad ther gone hopefully forever

      1. 30-06 and 308 are the go-to general purpose rounds in my area. They aren’t the best for anything, but they’re good at just about everything. If I could only have two rifles, one would be a .22lr and the other would be a 30-06 or a .308.

    30. Watched a video yesterday of a guy in Logan, Utah – (Thompson Long Range?) – who precisely mounts scopes for long range shooting — and then has the rifle fired to check it all out – as well as taking the client out to shoot at 1,000 yard targets.. Thinking of the relatively inexpensive ($650?) Weatherby Vanguard – in 6.5 Weatherby 300 – which does not seem to kick much. A 140 grain bullet comes out screaming at around 3,550 fps – and still has 1,200 ft lbs of energy at 900 yards – ‘enuff for a Deer – assuming you are a good ‘enuff of a shot. Prints a 7 inch group at 1,000 yards – and you only have to hold 19″ high? (When the zero set at 300 yards)
      VEEERY FLAT SHOOTING
      And keep on spreading too info Smedly. Might ed-u-cate these crackers. 🙂 (Sayeth the one who grew up in a small mountain town in Oregon. Double 🙂 )

      1. I used to think that home was a city, but a visit to Chicago made my small town look much better.

        For accuracy, I prefer a short action for the little bit of extra rigidity. I don’t know how that transfers to magnum actions since the match shooting I’ve done up until now meant 40-60 rounds per match, and two matches a day in tournaments. The most powerful cartridge any of us used was 7-08, and the current trend is to 6cm or 6×47 Lapua. Granted, our longest range was 500 meters, but it was offhand so it may still count as precision shooting.

          1. Nope, I meant 6cm, as in Creedmoor. It is a 6mm bullet in a necked down 6.5cm (Creedmoor, not centimeter) care. Not sure what’s wrong with a 243, but – as Georgiaoutlaw points out – I am lost.

    31. WOW! I really appreciate the article. I am a novice shooter with a .223 being me largest and go too. I have a AR and a bolt action 223. It is very fun and cheap. I am looking for my next caliber, and before this article it was 308. Tried true and available. However knowing life like I do, the 6.5 is on my list. I will research more before moving up, but this article has moved me to think about that decision a little longer. Thank you LP. And for all you guys who “dont get it”, move back to Facebook and complain elsewhere.

      ME

      1. @Micah, Welcome to the site. I’d like to put in my recommendation in the 6.5 category: 6.5 x 47 low recoil, easy on the barrel, phenomenal accuracy. Or perhaps the new Hornaday 6.5 PRC. I have not shot the 6.5 PRC but it has some very interesting numbers. Do you reload?

        1. The 6.5×47 Lapua is a terrific cartridge, but that means having a rifle built and then, probably, loading your own ammunition. Wouldn’t a 6.5 Creedmoor be a lot easier since rifles and ammunition in that caliber are commercially available?

      2. Lol that’s 3 rifles but let ya go on that one becuz they are good choices…..,,.That was funny?ive read some articles say that the 6.5creedmore I bleeve it was wast that good I don’t own one never shot one just my 2cents on the topic but I have heard good things about them I’m talking bout one article

      3. Just my 2cents Micah but get the 6.5CM over the 308. With something like the Ruger Predator and a Vortex Scope you wil have a 1000y gun for under 1000$. 500-600 yard steel is a chip shot from a supported position.

        1. Just adding my 2¢ to your 2¢, the 6.5cm has less recoil, lower cost per round (especially if you reload, and it looks like more development work than any other single cartridge right now. Note that, as a Rem 260 and Win 308 bigot, I have no joy in saying these things.

      1. Oldmarine >>> Georgiaoutlaw
        I know you love your gun but there are many good 22’s that are just a capable or more. Have you see the 22’s use in the Olympics? When I was a weapons instructor in San Diego Boot Camp (Korea war time) I trained recruits with old H&R .22’s (first time with a loaded weapon) where the bulls eye was the same diameter as the 22 projectile. I found that the shooter made the most difference. I personally find that the Magnum Research Light Barreled to be a n above average weapon that tacks and an tooth-picks are afraid of. Squirrels and rabbits are to easy because you aim for the eyes. Old .22’s are usually work of Art with wonderful designs and in your hands you feel like anything that moved was a target. when I was a kid I knew a man that actually killed a Mountain Lion with a .22LR, In the Ozarks they were called a Panther or Painter. I have many .22’s but all have been customized in some ways. The Old .22’s are just a comfort to use and makes hunting a real pleasure. Enjoy you favorite .22 and GOOD Shooting.

    32. Really appreciated this article – and after reading numerous reviews – it has just about cemented my buying one – a lower priced model – maybe the Ruger Predator – or the Tikka – or the – believe it or not – $650 Weatherby Vanguard model is it? All are supposed to be accurate with good triggers, etc.

      1. Oh – I should have also said that the Weatherby Vanguard is made by Howa, and they have an excellent reputation.

    33. The article is supposed to be the best long range cartridges. I don’t believe the 6.5 Creedmoor belongs in that catagory. The author goes as far as saying that “I believe that the 6.5 Creedmoor could be the 21st century 30-30 in terms of general popularity down the line. The 30-30 certainly can’t be grouped with long range rifles. Staying with a pile of cartridges doesn’t make the Creedmoor a standout.

      1. nobody has mentioned the 270 wby mag. shooting 100 gr check out the blst. on it. its fast as any you guys have mentioned. and can reach way out there.

    34. Excuse me for being ignorant I don’t understand this post from u me tom schiff can u please explain wer someone simple like me can understand thanks

    35. Plain and simple as a president of these United States obama totally sucked at his jobgive me a hell yea to georgiaoutlaw if u agree

    36. LOL. A couple of you Marine grunts are just the types one would want out on the point – holding the line – until relieved – all that stuff, without question or giving an inch – while in the Command Post – you would want somebody like Smedley or moi – working the fine nuances (yes, some give and take is included) with HQ’s – to try and get the supplies/reinforcements you might need – when all the other units are also clamoring for same. 🙂

      1. Every unit needs a King Rat. And someone that thinks in terms of accomplishing objectives with no or minimum casualties, and nobody left behind.

    37. A post by Gregory Romeu included the following items:

      29 March Press Felease: Gifford criticizes Virginia legislature for failing to enact a Gun Violence Prevention Bill this year.

      26 March Press Release: Gifford applauds New Jersey Assembly for passing a package of Gun Safety Bills.

      No details provided, which raise the following questions, Exactly what would the unencted Gun Violence Prevention Bill not enacted in Virginia have had to say? ALso. Regarding the New Jersey state assembly enacted package of Gun Safety Bills, exactly what do they say? Details and a close examination of the real world workability of such proposals might prove more than casually interesting.

      By the way, the foregoing is not intended as a criticism of Mr. Romeu. It merely seeks details regarding what was and was not enacted.

      1. Oldmarine
        You Know there are all kinds of Weapons and are many times the gun is miss used because shooters just don’t understand that each one is suitable for different situations. We have uses as Normal Hunting , Target , Sniping, Competition, Defense and fun Gunning. Each of the has a caliber and a weapon most suitable for the type of shooting. In my collection of guns, I try to keep a balance for my uses including shotguns not addressed here.
        I shoot at 50yds with hand guns but when it comes to long guns I’m not so good since the variables seem to pile up and gets to be a job to continue on. The one type of shooting that requires two people is Sniping (shooter and spotter). This sometimes exists in competition shooting. I believe that a shooter should practice with iron sights also to keep his skills in balance. For many years in the Corps I qualified “Expert” at 500 yards with the M1 Garand using iron sights only, but as the eyes get older they need a little help. The ultimate use of a gun is in Defense or Offense and that takes a weapon with killing power. This is the basics of this blog. A really good shooter doesn’t count only on his weapon but his skills also. Picking the wrong weapon for the job can also have devastating results. A competent shooter usually can usually adjust to his needs with his situation and the equipment. What I’m saying is to you have to adapt any or every thing to achieve success in shooting. Shooting has different skills, emotions and equipment for each type. All kinds of weapons and bullets / ballistics are discussed in this blog but NO one weapon or bullet can fit all types of shooting. Everyone has a favorite gun, ammo and scope but having a favorite can limit your shooting skills. Sniping is probably the most complicated since the shooter is expected to make the first shot to be all that is needed. This blog is about long Range Ammo and there are true-fully many good types and combinations available any many will pick the one they have on hand. They are all good it’s just what you feel confident and comfortable with. The real answer to this blog is that the shooter makes the most difference and s address long range ammo meaning specifically ranges OVER 600 yards and nothing less. Even a 22 LR can reach out to 500 yards ( documented on Utube ) but it would be hard to make a kill shot. Pick your ammo for the intended use. Practice makes perfect. Semper Fi…….Do or Die

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