Top Five Long Range Cartridges – The Best of the Best

Long-range shooting expert, he literally wrote the book, L.P. Brezny, makes his case for what he thinks are the best Long Range Cartridges.

The Long Range Cartridge Line up
The Long Range Cartridge Line Up:

L.P. Brezny

United States -(AmmoLand.com)- First off, a number of you won't like what I have to say on the subject of long range cartridges.

Prior to starting this material I interviewed several hard nosed long range shooters and asked each of them the same question. “Name five of the very best long range cartridges please”.

In each case, I got a totally different answer, except for a possible single round of ammunition, and that was the tried and true 300 Win Mag of which I own several rifles and totally agree. You see this is the problem here. Everyone out there in AmmoLand has their idea of the best of the best, and in most cases, it starts with what they own in a rifle, and shoot themselves. With that in mind, I turned to an old saying that I have hung my hat on for many years. The saying goes like this.

There are the three “P's” when it comes to the best of the best long range rifle rounds, and as you already know, I am about to tell you about each of them : Performance, Practicality and Price.

When evaluating a cartridge that adapts well for a very long shooting down range I like to look at the rounds performance ability, practicality in the field, and finally the price per round.

Somehow the idea has been floating around that shooters are made of money now-a-days. The fact is nothing could be further from the truth. Making a more modest round have some staying power is the key to success, but in so far as my task, it is to select each round based on a number of factors that center around the best of the best long range cartridges, so here is the whole deal in an ammo can.

50 BMG Long Range Cartridges

M-2 Ball 750 gr 50 BMG in links. These make great rat lodge destroyers in a prairie dog town at long range.
M-2 Ball 750 gr 50 BMG in links

Say what you like, but nothing fired from a human shoulder can touch the big bad 50 cal cartridge. The fuel cell is so outstanding that the bench mark 30-06 cartridge was the basis for it by the developer John Browning in his search for an anti-aircraft round. The big 50 will send a 750 grain bullet down range at 2700 f.p.s., then destroy almost anything in its path that ranges from barricades to warm targets. In terms of ranging ability the massive bullet will stay awake (above the speed of sound ) and clear out to 2,500 yards before someone puts a pillow under its head. Shooting the 50 cal requires a whole lot of rifle, and in this case I have owned several, but today shoot a very straight forward Steyr H.S. 50 with cut rifling, and it is so accurate that it has held world long range titles for back to back years across the board.

Practical? No, but a great deal of fun when shooting off the tops of bad lands mud butts at a mile away.

Price per round? Very high but through outfits like Century Arms, and Federal Cartridge ( American Eagle ) case lots are half that of much smaller long range rounds. In terms of performance. Well, nothing was feared more then an American sniper and his 50 Barrett in the sand box.

On that note I rest my case.

408 Chey-Tac Long Range Cartridges

408 CheyTac Long Range Cartridges
408 CheyTac Long Range Cartridge

The 408 CheyTac has a mixed history of both success and failure, but in the area of pure ballistics it is a very deadly gunning system. As a total long range wildcat round with no parent case at all, the round is unique, and the time I have spent behind a custom McMillan turn bolt shooting this cartridge can be considered memorable at the least. Some will say the 416 Barrett commands more respect then the 408, but being a bit old school, and liking the added velocity of the big “8” over the 416, it still takes top billing in my book.

The 408 Chey-Tac sends a 419 grain solid copper ultra high BC bullet down range at 2900 f.p.s., or a somewhat light weight pill being 305 grains at a blistering big bore 3450 f.p.s. That's hot in terms of a big round, and I have a close neighbor in the mountains that shoots over a mile off his back deck at a lime stone bolder on the next mountain over for kicks on any given Saturday afternoon when the wind is right.

338 Lapua Long Range Cartridges

338 Lapua Ammunition
338 Lapua Ammunition

Viewing the whole best long range cartridges subject as you care to, in most cases the real heavy weights in cartridge selection will boil down currently to the 338 Lapua. From grain weight options, price point per round, practical applications, and performance at long range, this cartridge is just about the best of the very best as a long distance shooting choice. Like the previous offerings just covered, the 338 Lapua is a military generated round that has been developed by the Fins to replace the 50 BMG, 416 Barrett, and the 408 Chey Tac as a long range snipers tool.

As 338 Lapua ammunition has built an outstanding track record among military snipers and sportsmen alike this option is here to stay.

300 Winchester Magnum or just Win-Mag

300 Winchester Magnum
300 Winchester Magnum

The short form here is this 300 Winchester Magnum cartridge is a massively popular go-to round due to cost per round down range, options in rifle available as chambered in the 300 Win, and its performance even at ranges well beyond 1000 yards.

Currently the US Army has gone to this cartridge when chambering their turn bolt Remington 700 action sniper rifle, ( M-24's, ) and when applying a new round to chassis rifles like the Remington 2010 sniper platform, among others.

Snipers needed to get past 1000 yards, and that meant turning to more cartridge and more bullet to do the deal.

Now the 300 Winchester Magnum can hold off mortar crews and small unit snipers to ranges beyond 1500 yards all day long in the mountain of Afghanistan. As a long range big game round or hard steel target cartridge this is a top contender, to say the least.

Hornady's 6.5 Creedmoor

Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor
Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor

Hornady's Dave Emery ballistic expert broke the mold on this one, and now after almost two full years of testing by way of four different rifles at, and beyond 1000 yards here in western South Dakota, I can say for a fact that we are seeing the next rising star in long range shooting.

Why the best of the very best?

Because the 6.5 Creedmoor will stay with and exceed a pile of cartridges, not break the household bank account, and is quickly growing in terms of cartridge brand options and bullet types. Sierra has just released the 130 grain TMK in 6.5 caliber, and Hornady offers the brand new cold tip ELD-X in a 140 grain Match bullet this summer. With the new Federal American Eagle offering in a 140 grain “hollow tip” pill, and Winchester's 140 grain Match ammunition, factory loads are everywhere. Black Hills ammunition is considering very seriously offering the new round, because I believe due to the Sierra bullet options now available to this high quality cartridge company.

In just handloaded bullets, Berger has now built a new 130 grain VLD that will drill prairie rats to 800 yards all day long. By the time this copy goes to press I would not be surprised to see still additional bullets and loads coming to volition.

I believe that the 6.5 Creedmoor could be the 21st century 30-30 in terms of general popularity down the line.

Brezny with Browning X Bolt 6.5 Creedmoor, Cartridge 120 grain A-Max Hornady

About the Author L.P. Brezny:

With more than 50 years experience in the field and the testing lab, author L.P. Brezny is one of today’s most recognized shotgun experts and authors. He is a contributor to dozens of firearms publications, such as Wildfowl, Shotgun Sports, and Varmint Hunters, and he is a regular columnist in the Gun Digest annual.


AmmoLand Editor Comments:  This article was updated to reflect changes in product improvements / availability on 06/30/2017.

  • 475 thoughts on “Top Five Long Range Cartridges – The Best of the Best

    1. I think the Bushnell model you speak of – Georgia – 3.9 40 MM Ultra HD- has been discontinued – but still may be in inventories somewhere. Also saw good reviews for the Vortex Diamondback – around $229 or so?

      Still looking at the Burris Veracity – 3×15 50 MM – around $500 for a used demo model.
      And pretty much decided on a Tikka T3X in 300 win mag – Stainless for $699 – guaranteed sub MOA – and universialy good reviews – with the caveat you might have to experiment to find the right load for your particular rifle.

    2. Oldmarine >>> Elton P. Green
      Good Info both on the scopes and the Ammo. I have one of my Shepherd scopes mounted on a M1A1 that gives me 90 more MOA of elevation for about 1500 yds.
      I carried a M1 Garand for many years and got used to shooting with it in latter years. After a couple of clips it would heat up and start to wonder around the target, At that time the 30-06 Ammo was probably the most readily available but that changed after the NAM I just got my first Stag AR10 in 7.62 x51 but haven’t got a chance to shoot it yet. I like the 308 and have several other rifles in it. Ammo of ‘not so popular’ and or very large cal. can get very expensive, some of the old stuff can run near to $400 for 20 rounds. Ammo is in demand for some Calibers and the ammo lines most popular seem to run to the small bore since the 223/5.56 from the Vietnam era. The ballistics have become so complicated and massive that a Scope like the Shepherd scope had to be developed to transition into faster and more accurate shooting. They simplify the task pretty much eliminating rang calculations and unknown range shooting without adjusting the scope. I like them because they are made for the AMMO you use the most. I plan to get more of the Shepherd Scopes for my other big bore Rifles. Happy shooting >Oldmarine GOOD SHOOTING

    3. SSG or Mr. Green:

      I never had the opportunity to do any shooting at altitudes you mentioned, however I did do a fair amount of 1000 yard shooting at USMC Quantico, Camp Perry and Stone Bay, as a civilian competitor with both the Garand and Model 70 Winchester rifles. In the Garand, for long range shooting, I used 190 grain Winchester bullets in my own handloads, with what was likely to much 4895, Match brass and Winchester primers. Later on, with the Model 70, post 1964, I used both 190 grain Winchester and 180 grain Sierra,Matchking bullets with 4350 powder, primers and brass as mentioned earlier.

      The above described handloads all worked at least reasonably well, I used to shoot on the 5 V! 1000 yard target in the mid ’90’s with my Garand.About the same with the bolt gun and Redfield Olympic sights.I did shoot a clean at Perry once in a scope match, when it is likely that the fates smiled on my efforts, rather than laughing at them. Never happened a second time though.

      The above offers for whatever they might be worth.

    4. You guys on here quite often see me talk a lot bout the Bushnell Legend Ultra hd3-9-50 it’s not the best rifle scope out there but for the money it’s hard to beat.im a deer hunter come from a long family of the same we just try to doit good as economically as we can and the legend is a great start for that quest. All u big money guys out here try one out if ur like me deer hunting is what do and love. Just wanted to get that out ther for u guys on a budget to see and maybe check it out for the next time u get a chance to pull the trigger on that monster buck of a life time Bushnell upper end scopes won’t let u down and u don’t have to go for the very best to get the job done. The End

    5. BTW – I did not realize Don Burris had originally worked for Redfield (Colorado) – – a scope I always admired. Thanks – and am taking a hard look at Burris scopes. For the money – also like Nikon – and Vortex – and of course – Leupold’s entry level – models – but am willing to spend up to $1,000 on new glass for the Weatherby 6.5-300.

      1. You can spend 1000, go with German glass.The difference is like turning the light switch on and off.Steiner,Zeiss am few others you can get one for that or tad more.You will never regret it

        1. Just for the record leupold is way over priced scopes today are just as good maybe better don’t waste time and dollars on one Bushnell will not let u down Nikon has great glass for me I really like the Bushnell legendif u can find one ther superb rifle scopes for bout all hunting needs get out ther and try one ur gonna love it

      1. The only difference in the Elite and a legend is the Argo which is better for moister but for the money u can’t beat a legend I love mine very durable and extremely accurate on my deer rifles

      2. That’s ur preference u can spend big dollars or u can get the same good quality that will last a long time and save money now and get a legend but for the money there’s no difference between the elites and the legends for the money I prefer the legend basically have the same warranty if u ever need it that’s ur personal call at how u want to deal with that talk to Bushnell they will help u make the rite decision and save u money

      3. Like I’ve said Bushnell has some great rifle scopes $799 is still a lot to spend on a tite budget pound ebay get a used 50mm legend u will never look back

    6. The good reputation of Leupold is on the line with those pos rifleman rifle scopes had one it totally sucked traded it for a freedom so far it’s ok but my favorite is the very affordable Bushnell Legend Ultra hd in 3-9-50 for a hunting rifle scope it’s very good enuff said bout the legend except to say it compared very close to my 2.5-10-50 Nikon Monarch I cant say anything bad about Bushnell Legend Ultra hd rifle scope they are bad ass and stay zeroed also just about can’t beat them for a hunting rifle scope get one u will seeeeeeeeeeeee

      1. @GO, I can not agree with your statement about Leupold’s reputation being on the line with the Rifleman series. That is Leupold’s entry level scope series. And the Leupolds VX Freedom series is supposed to replace the VX 1-3 series.

        1. Correct and I hate the rifleman I’m old skool when ur turrets freely turn their worn out how do uno wen they really are worn out that’s just me leupold confirmed to it wud be ok but again I’m old skool wouldn’t trust it got rid of it and will try the freedom so far all is ok

        2. I have a 3-9-50 leupold freedom so for its ok but for the dollars u can save them and do just as well my legend beats them all side by side except Nikons monarch line I have one in the 2.8-10-50 my legends glass compares close to it again I say the Bushnell legend ultra hd is a superb affordable rifle scope

      2. The elites are great rifle scopes but the legend is just as good for less dollars and they have the same Bullet proof warranty I have a couple legends 1 Elite Nikon Monarch leupold freedom a few Buckmasters old and new their all great scopes but I really like the 3-9-50 legend for the warrantyand the money can’t beat it

        1. For hunting, I think it’s tough to beat Nikon’s BDC reticle scopes. They have been around a long time for a reason. Dial in your rilfe, scope, and ammo using Spot On and you have your holdover’s set. A great reticle for hunters and I have been successful on many shots to 600 yards on deer sized game using my Nikon BDC reticle scopes. I do get that it’s not for everyone, but if you use a rangefinder and know distances of landmark’s, you can be successful.

          1. I have a Nikon Buckmaster that failed on the second rage trip. Shots climbed off the target while the elevation know was turned all the way down. Nikon’a warranty repairs are complex. I’m not happy.

          2. For hunting the becareful gets in my way I’ve had them and sent them back to nikon never shot one r tried to site one I don’t like the box reticle I prefer a solid duplex glass but Nikon quality is great except the Buckmasters 2 ther sort of cheap and the glass isn’t as good as some other scopes in ther same price range older Simmons rifle scopes r good example Aetec 44mag any new prostaff by nikon is great

    7. For Georgia: What do you suggest for a combo hunting-long range target scope – for $1,000 or so. I am looking at a Vortex Viper and the new? Leopold 3xiii or some such – in powers 3.5 to 15 or so.

      1. Save ur money get a Bushnell Legend Ultra hd3-9-50 & I promise you will never look back it’s a fantastic rifle scope for the money

      2. If u have followed any of my posts u wud c I really love the Bushnell Legend Ultra hd in 3-9-50 it’s affordable extremely accurate for any rifle hunting one may come across I’ve got several top knotch rifle scopes but the legend just stays dear to my heart

      3. A Ruger American 308 and Bushnell Legend Ultra hd 3-9-50 will take to an easy 900yds for around a $1000 or so you will not be disappointed in its results

      4. Sightron SIII scopes are great. Great turrets and repeatability. Quality glass. If you have the cash try one. You will not be disappointed.

      5. Get u a good 308 rifle and a Bushnell legend ultra hd 3-9-50 and I promise if ur a hunter u will never regret it I promise and I don’t even know who u r but I do no for hunting purposes the legend is hard to beat

    8. Guys&Gals I’ve deer hunted all my life and I have several rifle scopes from leupold to to Bushnell and Nikon I have a brand new leupold freedom several nikons it’s best being a Nikon prostaff5 2-5-10-50 my absolute best rifle scope is a Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 3-9-50 it’s more clear and durable feeling than any rifle scope I have can anyone explain to me why if Bushnell is supposed to be a Cheap low quality rifle scope why does it win in every bracket against all these other rifle scopes this leupold legend ultra hd 3-9-50 is a very exceptional rifle scope for the money I would put it against any other deer hunting rifle scope

    9. Smed – missed that you had already posted the Wikipedia article on long range sniper snots. And one of the best books ever on sniping – is by “White Feather” – AKA – Marine Sgt Carlos Hathcock – 93 CONFIRMED KILLS . Loved his story about slowly crawling for a day through the tall grass (he had to let the grass spring back up behind him to not show/leave a trail) – and having a snake slither over him – to finally get in position to shoot a VC General at 800 yards (with his trusty 30.06) – and then staying still in the grass while the VC stomped all around looking for him – almost stepping on him – and finally crawling out. His longest shot was when he experimented with a .50 Cal. – and while essentially standing guard – or some such – when he shot a VC supplier riding a bike with small rockets strapped to his back. Carlos thought – what the heck – let’s see what this baby – the .50 – can do – and BINGO. 🙂

      1. on the Winchester web site shows that Carlos use a match grade win 70 cal 308 maybe be it’s wrong maybe right.

          1. According to Wikipedia and Winchester Guns, Carlos Hathcock used a Winchester M70 in 30-06. Neither article mentions anything about tuning the rifles, but since Hathcock used a Winchester Model 70 target rifle to win the Wimbledon Match (1,000-yards shooting – not tennis, although that might be fun) in 1965, it’s probable that Marine armorers at Marine Base Quantico tuned his rifle.

            I would have bet money that Butch was right about the 308! The M40, based on the Remington 700, as adopted by the Corps in 1966 used the 308, so that’s probably the confusion.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Hathcock#Weaponry
            http://www.winchesterguns.com/news/articles/winchester-model-70-in-vietnam.html
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M40_rifle

    10. OK – my latest “dream” is a Weatherby Vanguard in 6.5 300. Smoking hot – 3,550 fps? – 140 g – and shoots flat. Do I really need to become a 1,000 yard shooter at 71 years of age? My wife would say NO – but don’t think she looks in my gun safe very much. 🙂 Pair it up with a decent scope (relatively inexpensive) – maybe from Vortex and have a 1.000 yard rig for under $1,000.

      1. Old Marine >>> Tom Schiff
        I noticed that you might be looking for ” A decent scope (relatively inexpensive)”
        I tend to favor scope line that is becoming bigger every day. ” Shepherd Scopes ” is now run by Salvo Technologies With production in Florida and headquarters in Nebraska. They have the only double reticle scopes that are perfect for shooting at unknown ranges. I found out about them when researching Big Game Hunting in AFRICA. There reputation is very good with Military, Law enforcement and Industry. They are very large company operating in many countries and are very innovative holding the Patten on the double reticle system. Shepherd is a family run as one part of SALVO. The scopes are made specific to the ammo you use. I have used a P1 (308) scope for four years and find it to be good and fast . A different kind of scope with advanced engineering at half the cost of the expensive older name brands. A scope that would cost you about 2k would cost you closer to $800 in a Shepherd. The scope is great at shooting the first target at 300-yds. and the next shot at 1000-yds without ever adjusting the scope for the range change. Checkout the dual reticle at ” https://shepherdscopes.com/dual-reticle-scope/ ” or

        I find it to be the easiest, fastest and fordable scope on the market. That being said have fun shooting. >>> Oldmarine

          1. My recommended scope for big game rifles is a very affordable accurate hunting rifle called the Bushnell ultra hd 3-9-50 it’s a very durable accurate hunting rifle for all my hunting needs just a thot if not interested that’s ok just my 2cents have a good day

        1. OldMarine, I thoroughly agree. I have five of these scopes, four of the P model 3X10’s and one V1 6X18. Two are mounted on .300 winchester Magnums, two are on 30-06s and one is on a Remington CDL in 35 Whelen. They do exactly what they are advertised to do, and I have shot them from every distance out to 1,000 yards in the .300 Winmag, and in the Whelen. I have become a regular at the range here near Colorado Springs so I can practice out to 600 yards with my Shepherd scopes and rifles on steel in windy conditions. As to the best long range cartridges, I tend to agree with the author on his calls, but might add the 30-06 in the right platform, using a powder such as IMR 4350 and the 180 or 190 grain Sierra bullet. At altitudes above 6,000 feet, it will stay ‘awake’ out to about 1,200 yards, and a little farther at 8,000 feet. It is also easier to shoot accurately than the .300 Winmag, due to a noticably lower recoil.
          Elton P. Green
          SSG, USA, INF. (Ret.)

    11. why list the 338 lapula my 338-378 weatherby out performs it in fps and energy ? 338 lapula everyone wants they like the hype 2 many monkey see monkey do people who dont do research and just want the pick of the day from what they hear from others .

      1. People probably chase the 338 Lapua instead of similar, existing cartridges for the same reasons they ignore the Remington 260, Lapua 6.5×47, or 6.5×55 Swedish Mauser in favor of the 6.5 Creedmoor. There is the “Me too” mentality, but then there are people like me.

        I grudgingly bought a 6.5cm because it is the de-facto standard for 6.5mm, short action cartridges. Equipment and components are available in Creedmoor that were never available in my preferred 260, and I know the market is too small for multiple standards. Success breeds success.

        1. You’re right to some extent, however, the 338 Lapua, 6.5 Creedmoor and the .300 Winchester Magnum have all been adopted by either the U.S. Army, or the U.S. Marine Corps and various Spec-ops groups as sniping rounds at this time, supplanting the 7.62 X 51 NATO or augmenting it. Whenever the military adopts a cartridge, its probably going to do well, whether it is the best for its job or simply ‘good enough’. That’s about all that needs to happen for a cartridge to become popular.
          Elton P. Green, SSG
          USA, INF., (Ret.)

      2. I think the big difference here is BC of the cartridges listed along with twist rate. There are other hammers but these stay supersonic past 1000 yds and have very little wind drift / drop at distance.

    12. I’ll put my tried and true Marlin 3030 and Federal Fusion 130gr against anything mentioned here at 1000yards. But I will need time to walk the first 925 yards.

      1. What u claiming to do with that 3030 I no ther good accurate hunting rifles my cousin shot one out to of a dead pine bout 200yds with one shot he also shot several deer over 200yds but I don’t understand what ur gonna do with urs

      2. Lol my cousin shot several deer over 200yds and once he shot a crow out top of a dead pine bout 300yds with one shot for a bet between 2young boys just out having a good time so yes the marlin 3030 is pretty accurate for shooting and hunting

        1. With the leverlution Hornady ammo I can shoot s whole box at 400y steel sitting or standing.its a game changer for that old Marlin

    13. All calibers mentioned would do the job.It’s like the old saying,opinions are like assholes,everyone has one,including me.I’ll take a 308 Norma Mag over 300 mag.As far as the 6.5 creedmoor,don’t know what all the fascination is with it,unless it is just saying a fancy name. You already have the 260rem that will probably out do it.They are almost identical. You could have put any of the RUMS in this category.So I think it is personal choice and what you can afford

    14. Annnnd, they all just got blasted out of the water by 375 spinnela, 400 grain pill, pushed by 200 grains of powder, muzzle velocity of 3300 feet per second, necked down 50 BMG case. Heres the big number. Goes transonic at 3800 yards.

    15. No hell yea’s yet a nd to keep the 3006 safari in tact I need as many as possible to confirm the 3006 is awesome brobama totally sucked as his job as president of the United States of America glad he and his Secretary of State shcrillary clinton are gon the both are very bad for these United States of America glad ther gone hopefully forever

      1. 30-06 and 308 are the go-to general purpose rounds in my area. They aren’t the best for anything, but they’re good at just about everything. If I could only have two rifles, one would be a .22lr and the other would be a 30-06 or a .308.

    16. Watched a video yesterday of a guy in Logan, Utah – (Thompson Long Range?) – who precisely mounts scopes for long range shooting — and then has the rifle fired to check it all out – as well as taking the client out to shoot at 1,000 yard targets.. Thinking of the relatively inexpensive ($650?) Weatherby Vanguard – in 6.5 Weatherby 300 – which does not seem to kick much. A 140 grain bullet comes out screaming at around 3,550 fps – and still has 1,200 ft lbs of energy at 900 yards – ‘enuff for a Deer – assuming you are a good ‘enuff of a shot. Prints a 7 inch group at 1,000 yards – and you only have to hold 19″ high? (When the zero set at 300 yards)
      VEEERY FLAT SHOOTING
      And keep on spreading too info Smedly. Might ed-u-cate these crackers. 🙂 (Sayeth the one who grew up in a small mountain town in Oregon. Double 🙂 )

      1. I used to think that home was a city, but a visit to Chicago made my small town look much better.

        For accuracy, I prefer a short action for the little bit of extra rigidity. I don’t know how that transfers to magnum actions since the match shooting I’ve done up until now meant 40-60 rounds per match, and two matches a day in tournaments. The most powerful cartridge any of us used was 7-08, and the current trend is to 6cm or 6×47 Lapua. Granted, our longest range was 500 meters, but it was offhand so it may still count as precision shooting.

          1. Nope, I meant 6cm, as in Creedmoor. It is a 6mm bullet in a necked down 6.5cm (Creedmoor, not centimeter) care. Not sure what’s wrong with a 243, but – as Georgiaoutlaw points out – I am lost.

    17. WOW! I really appreciate the article. I am a novice shooter with a .223 being me largest and go too. I have a AR and a bolt action 223. It is very fun and cheap. I am looking for my next caliber, and before this article it was 308. Tried true and available. However knowing life like I do, the 6.5 is on my list. I will research more before moving up, but this article has moved me to think about that decision a little longer. Thank you LP. And for all you guys who “dont get it”, move back to Facebook and complain elsewhere.

      ME

      1. @Micah, Welcome to the site. I’d like to put in my recommendation in the 6.5 category: 6.5 x 47 low recoil, easy on the barrel, phenomenal accuracy. Or perhaps the new Hornaday 6.5 PRC. I have not shot the 6.5 PRC but it has some very interesting numbers. Do you reload?

        1. The 6.5×47 Lapua is a terrific cartridge, but that means having a rifle built and then, probably, loading your own ammunition. Wouldn’t a 6.5 Creedmoor be a lot easier since rifles and ammunition in that caliber are commercially available?

      2. Lol that’s 3 rifles but let ya go on that one becuz they are good choices…..,,.That was funny?ive read some articles say that the 6.5creedmore I bleeve it was wast that good I don’t own one never shot one just my 2cents on the topic but I have heard good things about them I’m talking bout one article

      3. Just my 2cents Micah but get the 6.5CM over the 308. With something like the Ruger Predator and a Vortex Scope you wil have a 1000y gun for under 1000$. 500-600 yard steel is a chip shot from a supported position.

        1. Just adding my 2¢ to your 2¢, the 6.5cm has less recoil, lower cost per round (especially if you reload, and it looks like more development work than any other single cartridge right now. Note that, as a Rem 260 and Win 308 bigot, I have no joy in saying these things.

    18. Really appreciated this article – and after reading numerous reviews – it has just about cemented my buying one – a lower priced model – maybe the Ruger Predator – or the Tikka – or the – believe it or not – $650 Weatherby Vanguard model is it? All are supposed to be accurate with good triggers, etc.

      1. Oh – I should have also said that the Weatherby Vanguard is made by Howa, and they have an excellent reputation.

    19. The article is supposed to be the best long range cartridges. I don’t believe the 6.5 Creedmoor belongs in that catagory. The author goes as far as saying that “I believe that the 6.5 Creedmoor could be the 21st century 30-30 in terms of general popularity down the line. The 30-30 certainly can’t be grouped with long range rifles. Staying with a pile of cartridges doesn’t make the Creedmoor a standout.

    20. Excuse me for being ignorant I don’t understand this post from u me tom schiff can u please explain wer someone simple like me can understand thanks

    21. Plain and simple as a president of these United States obama totally sucked at his jobgive me a hell yea to georgiaoutlaw if u agree

    22. LOL. A couple of you Marine grunts are just the types one would want out on the point – holding the line – until relieved – all that stuff, without question or giving an inch – while in the Command Post – you would want somebody like Smedley or moi – working the fine nuances (yes, some give and take is included) with HQ’s – to try and get the supplies/reinforcements you might need – when all the other units are also clamoring for same. 🙂

      1. Every unit needs a King Rat. And someone that thinks in terms of accomplishing objectives with no or minimum casualties, and nobody left behind.

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      29 March Press Felease: Gifford criticizes Virginia legislature for failing to enact a Gun Violence Prevention Bill this year.

      26 March Press Release: Gifford applauds New Jersey Assembly for passing a package of Gun Safety Bills.

      No details provided, which raise the following questions, Exactly what would the unencted Gun Violence Prevention Bill not enacted in Virginia have had to say? ALso. Regarding the New Jersey state assembly enacted package of Gun Safety Bills, exactly what do they say? Details and a close examination of the real world workability of such proposals might prove more than casually interesting.

      By the way, the foregoing is not intended as a criticism of Mr. Romeu. It merely seeks details regarding what was and was not enacted.

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