CCW Permit Holder Shoots Armed Family Dollar Robber

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CCW Permit Holder Shoots Armed Family Dollar Robber
CCW Permit Holder Shoots Armed Family Dollar Robber
Bob Irwin
Bob Irwin

Las Vegas, NV –-(Ammoland.com)- FOX News 8 reports this week (8/7/2016) in Cleveland, Ohio, an armed suspect attempted to rob the Family Dollar on West 117th and Bellaire Avenue.

The robber walked in around 3 PM on Sunday and announced the hold up.

An armed customer drew his own pistol and told the robber to drop the gun. Shots were exchanged between the robber and armed citizen. The robber was hit in the head and transported to Metro Health Medical Center. His condition was unknown as this is written.

According to Linndale Police Chief, his officers were called to the scene just after 3 p.m. The the man with the CCW permit and the accused robber shot at each other, but only the suspect was injured.

The man who shot the suspect was not an employee at the store. Police are still investigating.

Comments:

Another armed citizen saves the day. This citizen is a hero who deserves the community’s thanks.

That is because this is really dangerous. Be aware when you yell drop the gun, sometimes they don’t. Consider that the robber may be desperate or not very bright. Often they suffer from both issues.

Consider if the threat in front of you is worth you getting killed over. Most criminals shoot poorly, but lady luck controls a lot of gunfights. A challenge from cover is better if that’s available. Winning is going home when it’s over!

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BillyBob Texas

Well…….let’s ALL be careful out there.

Discussions like this one are (should be…) meant to get us to THINK about the situation BEFORE you find yourself standing there thinking…”What should I do??!!” Prepare, visualize, practice dry-firing OFTEN, range work – regularly. Watching a video game and fantasizing about smokin’ bad guys WILL NOT CUT IT.

Be careful out there!! Good luck to ALL of us….and pray we NEVER , EVER have to draw our “smoke-wagon”….

Whiskey For My Men Beer For My Horses

Like most people I believe shooting someone is the last resort. That is why part of my EDC is a pair of alloy knuckles. I also have a plastic pair for metal detectors. Maybe fate would put a good guy close enough to the bad guy he could smack him upside the head with his gun or a pair of knuckles and render him silly. If the planets did not line up though I would shoot them. I am a firm believer that the 2nd amendment does not stop at firearms when it comes to defending myself that is why… Read more »

BillyBob Texas

Whiskey Man, I, too, feel about like you do about the perp, and dispatching him to the never-after (for him, probably) would be a good thing.

What I am, and would be, concerned about is the liberal DA that MIGHT recommend charges of murder, and you’re stuck with perhaps 5 – 10 years for 2nd degree murder, or somesuch. THAT would REALLY ruin MY day. It all sounds cut and dry ….but with today’s liberal, gun-hating folks in some places, you could go to jail for a LONG time….
This is some scary sh!t…….

Tionico

murder involved intent and forethought. Manslaughter at most.. but in any state worth occupying for your residence, in such a situation the lethal force is totally justified, and no charges can be filed. I;m certain the other intended victims will be happy to testify as to the situation, the immediate threat, their own fear for their lives, etc. Lethal force IS justified and appropriate.

BillyBob Texas

In response to the ‘calling out’ the bad guy before drilling him…….
Are you guys saying/implying that you could just shoot the guy (in the back?) without any warning, when all he had done so far is to stick up the cashier?
I understand not wanting to alert him as to your intentions, but a shot in the back without warning MIGHT raise a lot of concern to some….????

Whiskey For My Men Beer For My Horses

The only calling out I would do is if the bad guy happened to hear my safety click off. In this instant situation someone has a gun and is waving it around like he owns the joint. If the threat seemed imminent I would not have a problem shooting him/her in the back without notice. They probably should have thought about that before they pulled a gun out threatening most likely good Americans. What if the good guy had the opportunity to dispatch this asshole to hell but you don’t do it and he shoots a kid or lady and… Read more »

Manuel Reyna Jr

You are totally correct. A bullet in the back would be very difficult to justify. Plus they have no idea
What the mind and body goes thru in that intense
Of a situation. We all like to think we could handle is well, but until it happens you won’t know for sure.

Tionico

A guy stanging face to face with an innocent and holding a gun on him, demanding money is a lethal threat to EVERYONE in the place. An IMMEDIATE lethal threat, at that. So he gets his loot…. do YOU have any proof his intentions next include simply leaving….. perhaps ten witnesses who will descrtibe him to cops, identify him in a lineup, testify against hi m if he lives to talk to the judge and jury? No nor do I have any such clairvoyance. Were I presented with such a situatioh and I possibly could, I’d take the shot first,… Read more »

Whiskey For My Men Beer For My Horses

The way I see it the good guy had lots of range time in and his training paid off. The only thing I would have done different is told him to drop the gun after I shot him. I’m with Colonialgirl. Fortunately I live in Missourah and we have laws that allow us to legally kill people when an imminent threat is present. Chalk one up for the good guy!

Gus

I agree with you 100 percent. You have no idea what the bad guy has in mind once he gets his loot. If the bad guy is armed, he poses an imminent threat to your life and the life of all others in the vicinity. When you have the chance to safely engage….engage. Without warning and with extreme prejudice. I’m not a mind reader, and I’m not going to take the chance that Mr. Bad Guy is simply going to take the cash from the register and calmly walk out. I’m always going to default to the worst possible scenario,… Read more »

BillyBob Texas

Beer Horses….I’d only put my gun down JUST BEFORE the cops are walking in the door. You don’t want them to see you holding it in your hand – but also in that situation, I would not want to be disarmed UNTIUL they got there. I suspect that is what you meant. With a name like yours, I’d guess you are already pretty smart..!:-)

Whiskey For My Men Beer For My Horses

You are correct. Once the eminent threat had been stopped and it seemed safe I’d drop the mag and eject the one in the pipe prior to the police showing up. I don’t know if I am that smart, a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then!

Colonialgirl

Well then pansies, just take off your concealed holster, put the pea shooter in the safe and go UNARMED, because you are as worthless as a fart in Church.

Michael McCormack

It is never worth engaging an armed malfactor unless life or limb is at risk. Money is only money and is usually insured. As a permanently disabled person I can assure you that you don’t want to be like me. Only use your firearm if you absolutely must.

James B. Seitz

I agree, a few dollars is not worth dying for? Having said that, depending what you are carrying and what cover you might have, I would think hard about going home unharmed or engaging the robber?

Manuel Reyna Jr

I personally would not engage unless it’s a life or death situation. Because even if you win the gun fight
You still lose. Since I don’t know all the facts in this incident I’ll just say I’m just glad the good guy won.
A few dollars is not worth dying for.

revjen45

“Be aware when you yell drop the gun, sometimes they don’t. ” The police are supposed to apprehend malefactors for processing by the legal industry. Whenever possible this is accomplished with lotsa cops. This is a good idea. Apprehensions are usually conducted with minimal harm to cops and peons. However We the Peons do not have this option. Ref. Tacoma Mall shooting on 11/20/05. Brendan (Dan) McKown challenged the shooter, who got off the first 5 shots with an AK clone. Mr. McKown was paralyzed. Tuco was right! The armed citizen can not call on big-time backup and assemble forces… Read more »

BillyBob Texas

Well, glad this good-guy-with-a-gun was willing to step up to do this. All the facts aren’t known, but IF, IF all the bad-guy wanted was money and run, then why risk your life for the little amount of money in a FD store? But IF, IF the bad-guy THEN decided to snuff out all the witnesses….it’s a different thing. But how do you know in time to take advantage of it…? Tough call, sometimes….