Accidental Discharge At Gun Show Reminds Us – All Guns Are Loaded

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Accidental Discharge
Accidental Discharge
Bob Irwin
Bob Irwin

USA –-(Ammoland.com)- The Desert News reports Sept. 25, 2016 in Sandy, Utah that at the South Towne Expo Center a 73-year-old man exhibiting several guns had an interested 49 year old buyer walk up to his table.

The buyer was interested in a Colt .45 1911 handgun. The seller had all of his weapons zip tied and the buyer asked him to cut the zip tie so he could further examine the gun.

Reports are that the customer manipulated the slide, not realizing there was a magazine in the gun. After manipulating the slide, he did notice the magazine and removed it. He then pointed the gun down at the floor and pulled the trigger.

One shot fired, striking the concrete floor.

That sent some chips of concrete and the main part of the bullet ricocheting into a nearby pillar. Chips from the floor hit a 17 year old and a 13 year-old who were standing a few feet away.

An EMT examined the two teens and their parents declined medical treatment. The potential customer who fired the gun will likely not be cited as the case was determined to be an accident.

Comments:

The incident is a good reminder for all gun owners. Always assume every gun is loaded. The customer pointing the “empty” firearm in a safe direction may have saved a tragedy from happening.

No matter what mistakes are made, Safe Direction makes such events only really embarrassing and clearly educational, but not tragic!

People who handle guns daily as part of their daily lives can have an accidental discharge, never let your guard down, treat all guns as loaded, always.

Bob Irwin, The Gun Store, Las Vegas

About Bob Irwin

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I agree…..this was not an AD, but a ND. I recently was looking at handguns at a local gun store in my area. I asked to see a particular weapon. The seller cleared the weapon as he should, then handed the weapon to me. I then went through the clearing process myself, even though I had just watched the seller do it two feet in front of me. As I looked over the weapon, I made sure as I moved and checked out the sights that I never crossed anything with the muzzle that I wasn’t willing to destroy. After… Read more »

Tionico
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Tionico

Prepped mag in the mag will of the pistol? Fault of seller. Handing it, inzipped, to a potential buyer without going through ALL the steps of making a weapon SAFE? Fault of seller. Those steps are MAG OUT, BOLT BACK, SAFETY ON, BORE FLAG, and then one can safely handle it, but still.. ALWAYS keep the muzzle in a safe direction. Seems this was the ONLY rule that was followed, but we’re all glad it was, else there would likely have been something besides the concrete floor hit by that round. Potential buyer fails to SAFE the weapon himself? HIS… Read more »

Pete
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Pete

From experience I can tell you to inspect the bolt face as well as the chamber.

Don in Arkansas
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Don in Arkansas

There is no such thing as an ‘accidental’ discharge. The proper term is ‘negligent’ discharge. #1, what was the dealer doing showing a weapon with a loaded magazine. #2, the buyer did not make sure the weapon was clear before pulling the trigger. Negligence piled on negligence.

Don
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Don

Always remember to ER to avoid the ER.

EJECT first; RACK second.

Tom Sirianni
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Tom Sirianni

always check the chamber when removing the magazine from the gun for inspection.

Jim Macklin
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Jim Macklin

Guns put on display should not be loaded. Loaded guns should not be tied, zipped or padlocked. Every “rule” about displaying firearms was broken by the seller. The “customer” also violated the basic rules and common sense, the only thing he did that was clos to being correct was he didn’t pint the gun at somebody. A. If you rack the slide and it closes there is a loaded magazine and the chamber is now loaded. B You have to look into the open action to verify that the gun is unloaded, just racking the slide is loading the gun.… Read more »

Infidel7.62
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Infidel7.62

You can’t accidentally load and insert a magazine, accidentally rack the slide ,and accidentally pull the trigger. It is pure negligence.

frostyjhammer
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frostyjhammer

Thank you! It drives me crazy when a clearly ND is called an AD.

Keith Rudd
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Keith Rudd

Okay, the list…. 1.) Loaded magazine, AT THE GUN SHOW. 2.) In the weapon. 3.) Hand it to a stranger, and DON’T MENTION it’s loaded. 4.) Cut the zip tie. The seller was 95% responsible for this. Yes, the anonymous stranger wandering by was responsible, too, but that’s what a PUBLIC gun show attracts. This story creeps me out because I am a regular at gun shows, and ballistically speaking, every person at the gun show was within range of a .45 ACP round. I do not hold the general public (with all levels of expertise) to the same standard… Read more »

Dave
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Dave

Any time I pick up a firearm…gun show or store…I always clear the weapon, even if the person handing it to me just did the same thing. I consider every firearm loaded until I, personally, clear it and this is what I’ve taught my children. Where I live…all firearms at gun shows have their actions ‘zipped’ open or the bolt is removed and magazine wells are also zipped. This is done at the door before you even go in. Removing any of the zip ties…for any reason will get a vendor or attendee…removed.

Pete
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Pete

Here in MD it’s customary to remove and replace zip ties if a customer wants to examine a gun more closely. I can’t imagine, however, the absolute stupidity of displaying a loaded gun for sale on a show table.

Rick
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Rick

Dave, “I consider every firearm loaded until I, personally, clear it…” Absolutely. And that’s any where: shop, range, class. If it was out of my sight, I check it again!

Macofjack
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Macofjack

Sounds like stupidity on both parts to me. In my state we zip tie the gun with slide open and zip tie goes through the magazine well. Maybe other states should make this the rule!