Urge Your Representative Vote Yes on H.J. 69, Overturning Harmful Alaska Regulation

Safari Club International
Safari Club International

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- Safari Club International (SCI) encourages all sportsmen and women to contact your U.S. Representative today and voice your support for House Joint Resolution 69.

If approved, H.J. Res. 69 will allow Congress to reverse a final rule, adopted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), that prohibits and restricts legal forms of hunting on National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska.

This final FWS rule contradicts the Alaska Department of Fish and Game’s constitutional mandate to manage the state’s wildlife resources for sustained yield, which is affirmed in the Alaska Statehood Act, the Alaska National Interests Land Conservation Act, and the National Wildlife Refuge System Improvement Act. In short, the FWS regulation that H.J. Res. 69 will nullify is one that interferes with the State of Alaska’s ability to provide adequate wildlife for the state’s hunters.

With your help, H.J. Res. 69 will give Congress the opportunity to reverse this harmful FWS regulation adopted during the last months of the Obama Administration. It is imperative that you contact your Representative today and urge him/her to vote Yes on H.J. Res. 69. You must act NOW, as this Resolution is anticipated to be voted on the House floor tomorrow Thursday, February 16.

SCI, along with 26 other hunter conservation groups, signed a letter supporting H.J. Res. 69 (previously identified as H.J. Res. 49), which has been sent to House Speaker Paul Ryan and House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy. That letter provides additional details about the FWS regulation and about H.J. Res. 69.

  • 216 thoughts on “Urge Your Representative Vote Yes on H.J. 69, Overturning Harmful Alaska Regulation

          1. But to go after HIBERNATING BEARS with cubs AND wolf pups in their dens — surely even
            you people think these acts have to be repulsive and cowardly?!

            1. Alaska is very careful about regulating their own fish and game. If you let predator species bread and grow with no control, they will wipe out other species of animals such as salmon, deer, moose, elk, caribou, mountain goats, etc. The fact is that when Alaska was made a state in 1959 the sate was given full control over their own wildlife management. Obama’s “rule” to let the feds take over control of more than 76 million acres violated the law. This just reverses that huge power grab by an out of control government.

            2. thats not at all true. thats just BS you tell yourself so you can step in. Please explain how they have coexisted for millions of years before we stepped in with “predatory controls.” The fact is you think its fun to kill them so you have to twist laws that make it seem like you’re doing something beneficial when in fact you’re not at all needed.

              If the predator numbers become to high they will decrease on their own due to not enough food to feed large litters, the natural way…

            3. Yes they do but this bill gives immoral so called hunters the right to slaughter animals. Rep Smith is one such immoral hunter. This bill will thrill all the hunters just out fir trophies and bragging rights. Dispicable. Man already almost killed off all the Buffalo now bears and wolfs. What next. Government did that.

            1. Since when is it ok to kill a bear while sleeping in hibernation or wolf pups in their dens. Since when has it ever been ok to spot grizzly bears from aircraft,then land and shoot them. Since when is it ok to trap grizzlies and black bears with steel-jawed leghold traps.

              THIS IS A VERY UNWISE THING TO DO—OVERTURNING THIS BAN—Let’s hope the Senate has more sense than the house. To me —I don’t feel Alaska deserves the wonderfull wildlife that inhabits that state. Basically they want to turn their state into a game refuge. I’m sorry but there are millions of dollars to be lost from people cancelling their cruises—for two reasons–the sheer cruelty of this and the second is we won’t be able to view wildlife from the cruise ship or a stop at Denali Park due there won’t BE ANY !!

        1. National wildlife refuges are NATIONAL land. Protecting predators is scientifically based. Eliminating them just to make game farms out of refuges is not the purpose of refuge.

        2. Bill, you are p**ing on a flat rock trying to teach these trolls anything. They are stupid and they like it that way. That’s why they vote for people like Obama and Hill-A-Sh*t, and think they are just wonderful.
          You are never going to get through to them with the truth or reality.

          1. Radical Islamic Terrorists and Putin think Americans are “stupid”… just like you think. Guess like minds think alike. Got to wonder which side some people are on.

          1. that is my point, WHO…Name one Person, Group, Anyone, that has been caught killing Baby ANYTHING. I’ve not read even one example, just HearSay. Hearsay Sells lots of papers and gets it’s readers in a Tizzy, but it’s just that, HearSay. I can’t imagine even the worst hunter sticking his gun in a den or even waiting outside the den to blow the heads off the cubs. No matter the Race/Religion/Political Agenda. Now, killing some extra adult bears beyond the limit, that kind of stuff probably happens. A count, according to USA Today two years ago, is the Black Bear population had doubled to almost a Million, 950k. So it’s not like there is a shortage of them.
            I’m not being politically biased. I’m saying I believe in the good will of most all people to not want to harm babies, and I’ve not read one example….yet.

            1. Sorry but you are way off base. This is a predator control program and all the methods listed on this bill have historically been used to control predators. Poison has been used to kill predators, adults and pups, and the State used to wipe out entire packs of wolves, including pups, from helicopter shootings.

        3. Bill – If Alaskans stopped their sadistic hunting and became vegans they would not suffer the awful health problems like strokes, diabetes, heart attacks etc., etc. The human body cannot digest animal fats and so they build up in the arteries and cause these awful avoidable diseases. Do yourselves a favour.

          1. Heart attacks and diabetes are caused by unstable blood sugar from grains and sugar and not from meats and animal fats. Carbohydrates/sugar create fat (triglycerides).

        1. How does name calling help us to understand why this is good for the country, good for Alaska? Explain it. As Americans we should be concerned about our environment as well as the economy. Why can’t we support both? Help me understand.

          1. I’ll explain it for them. I God, ain’t no one gonna take away my god given rights, including killing *hit.

            Don’t waste your breath and time on them, Lauren, call your senators, write to them, FLOOD them with calls and SOON and tell everyone you know to do the same. This is what I am doing.

            That land is a REFUGE for God’s sake, and belongs to ALL of us and by gum, the likes of you and I have got to be better stewards of it than a bunch of low-life “hunters”.

        2. Colonialgirl So, you also enjoy killing wolf and bear cubs and pups? You are so BRAVE !!! What gives you the right to take the life of a sentient creature that has never harmed you or intruded on your home territory, and yet you see it as your “right” to do this? Do you get a thrill as you see the terror and agony that you inflicted on these innocent animals and their life ebbing away? Your sort are the lowest of the low, you are cowardly and a monster and I hope you have a worse death than what you inflicted on harmless creatures. Take your gun and go to a war zone, help to exterminate IS as they are the enemy, not the wild animals !

          1. @Sharon Hopkins, only “native subsistence hunters as determined by the federal government” are allowed to hunt bears and wolf pups in their dens. Colonial Girl has already served in the U.S. Army, and has earned to right to opine. You, however, are not an American, much less an Alaskan or native Alaskan. You have no standing to complain. And for someone who has never picked up a rifle in defense of the American people, you sure do throw the word “coward’ around a lot.

      1. Everyone knows that hunting is the “sport” of cowards. Wanna be “tough guys” who are too terrified to take on someone who will fight back, so they attack animals. Then they use all sorts of pretexts to justify their cowardice. Even they know they’re cowards, but they’ll never admit it to their cowardly partners. Men get into boxing rings; cowards hunt….

        1. Hunting is not a sport its in our genes dipshit. We are at the top of the food chain. My meat comes from nature not a stockyard. And by the way, what did you have for dinner last week and what are fancy shoes made of? Plants are living things to so don’t lay that vegetarian crap out there either.

          1. Those folks calling Americans “dip-s***s” are the definition of anti-American. As a disabled Viet Nam Veteran, I resent those taking the side of the enemy who hates us as much as we hate each other.

        2. If “Everyone” is your little circle of friends and ignoramuses, then I guess you’re right. The rest of us have common sense. I know your kind consider yourselves of the ultimate intelligence and keepers of your artificial moral code, so carry on in your ignorance. We need someone to laugh at.

      2. You cowards disgust me…how can a person with any sense of compassion or empathy..take a baby cub or pup from a den and kill it…Obviously you people are coward serial killers that don’t have the guts to kill people but still want to kill and go after defenseless animals….Why don’t you go after a bear or a wolve hand to hand combat…because you are nothing but the lowest form of animal. But what goes around comes around and you will all get yours in the end and I sure hope it is really painful

    1. So by killing large carnivores such as bears or wolves does it make your penis larger? Or is it that you are so afraid that anything that may step in the way of your manhood on this planet should be killed? What about your children and grandchildren being able to witness wildlife? Go to your grave with the thought that you’ve killed off something that was here way before you were even thought of. Oh yeah you are decent human beings.

      1. @Jan Humphrey, I don’t know what shooting animals have to do with making a penis larger I have never gotten that effect. It must be ingrained in your mind. I never gave any thought about if a woman shot an animal it would make her VJ tighter.

      2. @Jan you are obviously not aware of the Lacy Act or the Pittman-Robinson act which together brought the animals of the United States back from the brink of extinction. Those acts were written by sports hunters. Those acts fund wild animals and their habitat. Absent American hunters you would have never even heard of a bear, or a dear, or an elk or a duck, much less seen one. Absent the American hunter American wild life would have been as plentiful as Pequats.

        1. You don’t have to kill them while they hibernate……oh that’s right, doing that makes it easy for all you big “sportsmen”. And inhumane leg traps, hope one of them snare your limbs. If hunters didn’t kill all the prey, we wouldn’t have problems with predators. It all comes down to hunting being profitable, whether for licenses, guns, clothing and accessories. Hunting will continue (despite what the NRA might tell you), but don’t be so barbaric, these are lives you are taking, they have families, raise their young, feel pain, mourn, don’t be so Neanderthal in thinking otherwise…….or maybe you can’t.

          1. Snowflake, what the f#^k are you talking about? No one hunts bears sleeping in dens, and there is never a season to hunt bear cubs, you are living in your own dream world. Go back to hunting penises with Jan…

            1. Actually this bill hj red 69 specifically lifts the ban on hunting an animal while its hibernating. This website did not tell you that and that’s why it is very sad when you read these comments. Our country is in very bad trouble with these websites like this. Read the bill yourself. It does nothing but lift the ban on hibernating wolves and bears. I am republican a gun owner and a hunter. This website should be ashamed at the way it portrayed this bill. It is sick it was even proposed

            2. This removes that protection. Now, the state gets to “manage” federal wildlife refuges in any means they want to. They will, and they will do it to turn them into game farms. Science strongly opposes this as a healthy way to manage wildlife.

            3. It’s those restrictions on those exact practices that the resolution overturns…. strangely the above article just told you to call and tell your rep to vote yes for overturning but doesn’t actually tell you what they are overturning and the meat of the legislation. Read the resolution and the restrictions it overturns. I have no issue with hunting but responsible hunters believe in humane practices and conservation as well or we won’t have anything left to hunt.

        2. I don’t think you understand the bill which says they can use planes to hunt down these animals and just kill them off not for food purposes but just for the purpose of killing. they are trying to reverse the bill to do just that make it possible to kill for the sake of killing not for food but for trophy.wrong all wrong !

        3. This site with the lion on the front makes me sick. Your all about as brave as that /$=÷# of a dentist that shot the tame lion drinking water. Only you all want to shoot sleeping bears, Can’t you possibly protect their habitat without trying to kill them. What is wrong with you.

        1. Shouldn’t have mentioned “penis” Jan. Some of these guys seem edgy with the word, maybe too obsessed. If they had balls, they’d enlist and face their insecurities in combat with a real enemy…don’t need ’em parading around Wal-Mart feelin’ big. Go get you some ISIS and leave the sleeping bears alone

          1. I totally agree! Linda Camac. That didn’t happen in Yellowstone, did it? And it’s BREED not BREAD, aardvark

          2. @Tiny Tim H, Oh, yeah, I did that enlistment thing, and that other stuff the you mentioned. Funny though, I don’t remember seeing you there.

    2. So killing a bear in hibernation is ok with you….I mean it would make it so much easier for you big “sportsman” and leg hold traps….? Really, I suppose an animal can get away by chewing their leg off, but I would find it much more effective if the person setting the trap could experience that, so here’s hoping they do. Hunting will continue (despite what the NRA tells you)…can you be more humane in your attempts. These animals have families, provide for their families, raise their young, feel pain, mourn….hey sounds an awful lot like humans. If you can’t do that, then you shouldn’t be hunting.

      1. Dear Nancy or Snowflake or whatever, I am really sorry, but none, not one thing of what you have written is correct. Bear fathers leave after their contribution and often try to kill cubs to bring female bears back into heat.No morning and not family like.
        Mother bears raise their cubs up to a certain point, if the cub looks healthy and of viable size. If not, well what she does is not family like. After raising the cub (often only one survives), the mother bear unceremoniously chases the cub or cubs away, and immediately goes “dating”. Now, I do not know about your family, but it doesn’t sound like my family.
        Nor does mama bear give a damn about mother deer’s family or mother ground squirrel’s family. If you know what I mean. And If you don’t …well… I talking menu.
        No leg traps. No one hunts the den. Seasons preclude that because we hunters want to see the species survive. No one puts money into wild life like American sportsmen do. So stop believing what you hear because someone is just using you.

        1. Except that is exactly that this resolution is suggesting. Removing restrictions on killing cubs and pups in dens, shooting game from the air, yep cause that’s sporting of you.

          If y’all need ito make it this easy to hunt, perhaps your local ASPCA might be more your speed. All caged up and ready to go.

          1. Just insane how these NRA members try to justify this as a ‘good thing’. They like it because the majority are not skilled at hunting. So this way they get a easy kill and a great photo to show their macho friends.

          2. @Seriously, where does it say that hunting bears and cubs in dens would be allowed. I clicked on all the additional tags and could not find that.

          1. @Nancy S, No, I did not, but I would like to. I could not find it to read it, as I have said before! So, help me out and give me a site to go to so that I can read the thing. Please.

        2. Amen Wild Bill. so tired of alarmists freaking out at every moment when they no nothing about the situation!

    3. Are you kidding me?! Do you know what the word Refuge means?! Freaking gun toting idiots! Animals deserve life more than you do!

      1. Dalton, sorry you are so uneducated, because if you had a clue you would know that the North American Model of Conservation created the “Refuge” and this model’s foundational core management tool IS … Hunting. American hunters and their conservation efforts are the only reason we have wildlife like we do today.

        1. That is the exact lie that hunters spout out all of the time! I am so sick of the same song same verse that you demented freaks spew out to justify your sick behavior!

          1. @Animal lover – actually it is a fact, but don’t let facts get in your way. Your ad hominem attack reveals your lack of knowledge about the subject. Stay ignorant and keep up the name calling.

    4. I just don’t understand the reasoning behind this. Where is the sport in shooting a bear (possibly with cubs) in it’s den while it’s hibernating? Or luring and animal with food so you can get a close up shot?

      1. Abee, nice,,, you would rather see humans die over animals, you are despicable, no matter how stupid I think you are I would never wish any human harm or worse death. Your kind are an embarrassment to the nature you claim to love. Sicko.

        1. Actually Fred if you read the bill you are defending you would understand her anger. I am very conservative. This bill does nothing but strip protections from animals that should be off limits, i.e. Hibernating. The bill does not give you more animals to kill as this website claims, it merely makes it legal to kill hibernating dens. You cannot defend this. Stop trying. It makes us look bad. Go trump.

            1. Wild Bill: You’re correct that when you go to any website which claims to give info about this HJR69, you won’t find anything directly stating what it will do. It may “simply” state that it’s purpose is to overturn the existing resolution which was passed last summer. Period. So in order to know what this proposed HJR69 will truly do, it’s important to know what the EXISTING resolution is first.

              It wouldn’t be the first time government made it difficult for average citizens to know what’s what. They’re really good at confusion. 🙂

              That’s why I posted here the other day w/some info that I hope might be of help in getting the straight dope.

    5. I am pro guns and republican to the core. This bill does nothing but strip protections from hibernating animals. This article makes no sense. Read the bill. It’s quite disgusting from a conservative point of view.

      1. Same here…I’m pro gun rights, strong republican but I’m all for any law (fed or state) that protects wild animals from inhuman and unreasonable hunting practices. If the bear population gets out of control, then Alaskans can address that issue in a humane way….I don’t agree with killing these beautiful animals in general so I would error on the side of protection of animals when it makes sense.

        1. @Carly, please do not confuse the romanticized version of “bears” with the dirty, smelly, and vicious reality of “bears”. Maintaining our healthy populations of wild animals is a science and not based upon feelings. The carrying population of the land is finite, and over population can lead to far less humane deaths than hunting ever could. Try not eating for a week.
          Having said that, I don’t know hunter that would kill cubs in their den, although I suppose some people might do that. I think that Alaskans can think up other ways of hunting bears that would all more bear harvest if that need arises.

    6. This line says it all: “State of Alaska’s ability to provide adequate wildlife for the state’s hunters.” I’m a big game hunter from Colorado, I ask: “What about fair chase?” Killing bears in den is not hunting, it is harvesting. If Alaska has a bear control population, they should decide that this is an effective means of control. But, if the reason is “provide adequate wildlife for the state’s hunters”, not good enough. Grow a pair and learn to hunt bear!

    7. This is ridiculous, find something to do besides killing animals. Your whole group here is a disgrace to the human race. If I was up there and saw you shooting sleeping bears, I would make sure you never shot anything again.

      1. @Jan Lloyd, I am pretty sure that is is only native subsistence hunters, so you are criticizing the native Americans. And what is worse, you make an obtuse threat of killing your fellow human, but we are a disgrace to the human race?

    8. I’m not a person who’s passing judgement on any hunter, my family has several hunters. But, this bill is wrong. Anyone who hasn’t studied it really needs to. This bill will make it ok to shoot game from helicopters, kill hibernating families, and we all know what leg traps do. It was introduced by a Representative from Alaska, who is also a trapper. Hunters and other officials do not want this bill passed. It’s wrong. This website has left out a lot of information.

    9. Well, I see this got invaded by all the ignorant left winger snowflakes, morons and idiots who have not a clue; I bet they all support PETA which has a record for the number of dogs and other pets they KILL in their “shelters”.
      I bet also that they have never contributed one cent to conservation or studied conservation and are totally unaware that allowed to grow beyond the ability of the habitat to support them that animals starve and begin attacking pets.
      What a load of ignorance.
      Thanks again for all the stupidity and ignorance posted here by lefty anti-hunting morons.

      1. Who the ***k let you out of the kitchen, Colonialb8tch? You do talk some absolute sh\te. Thanks for taking women’s right back to the Victorian era, idiot. I really bet you are a student of conservation. Lol.

        1. @Troll Stool, Actually CG is correct on her facts, nor have you disputed her facts. All of the remainder of you writing was insult, empty words, wasted effort.This is a clear debate loss. Have you learned nothing about argumentation from these fine gentlemen and ladies that comment here?

          1. Old Bill, you silly old fart. You really do have nothing better to do than to hang out on this forum and reply to EVERY post like some obsessive-compulsive retard. What a pathetic way to while away your twilight years. Haven’t you been smacked down enough? Colonialb8tch doesn’t need your help, she needs to get back in the kitchen and make me a pot pie.

      1. @Tom R, No, it is not that plain and simple. Market hunters, hunted the passenger pigeon to extinction for food. Market hunters brought nearly all the game animals in North America to the brink of extinction, all for food. Hunting wild game for food was 24/7/365. Sport hunters got together and got Congress to out law market hunting for food. It is called the Lacey Act.
        After 30 years the game animals of North America had not come back in any appreciable numbers. It was rare, indeed, to see a white tail deer. Only sport hunters knew why. Sport hunters got Congress to pass the Pittman-Robinson Act, part of which was a ten per cent tax on all firearms and ammunition sold. It is the only example in the history of the United States that a group of people asked Congress to tax themselves especially. (Note: now Congress has increased the tax, applied it to bowes and arrows, and steals from the fund regularly to pay for social projects.) The money was used by sportsmen to buy, preserve, and improve habitat for the game animals, long before state governments got involved.
        Then the sportsmen asked state governments to set seasons and limits on when, how, and how many animals could be taken each year. Absent thoughtful, knowledgeable, dedicated, and self sacrificing sport hunters there would be no wild animals in North America. So it is not as simple as modern people would have us believe.

    10. National Wildlife Refuge means National, in other words it belongs to ALL of the people not just the tree huggers and environmental cases. As such we who hunt and fish have as much right to enjoy our interests on that land as you environmental cases have to hike and kayak. You don’t want to hunt, don’t. Where does it say in our constitution that everyone has to ask your permission or get your approval for anything. “GFYS’s” You have no more right to dictate to me than I have to dictate to you, WE all own the NATIONAL WILD LIVE REFUGES, because we as Americans own the land that is not in private hands. I have the right, without your permission to do as I please within the confines of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

      1. Yes, National means National, Wildlife means Wildlife and Refuge means Refuge. Now which of these words are you struggling with? And no, you do not have a right to do as you please in a national wildlife refuge unless you are a self admitted poacher. You must adhere to rules and regulations designed to maintain wildlife populations. What a foolish and naive post by a bitter high school drop-out that can’t think beyond a single dimension.

        1. You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension, I never said I had the right to do as I pleased outside of the law Sh*t bird.

          1. My reading comprehension is excellent. You said “I have the right, without your permission to do as I please within the confines of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.”

            And I said unless you want to behave like a low life poacher, then you need to follow the rules and regulations the government imposes on you. So what is it, responsible hunter or lowlife poacher that supports the killing of pups in their dens or hibernating bears and their cubs?

            1. Now there’s a witty rejoiner. What I would expect from somebody that finds fish and game regulations repugnant.

    11. If you have not actually read the bill yourself and are commenting based only what you’ve read on this webpage, how can you think you understand what the bill is ACTUALLY about? You are commenting from a point of ignorance. Shut up and read the full bill, making sure you clearly understand it. If you can’t understand it, shut up. If you do understand it and still think it’s ok, comment at will – that’s your perogative. But don’t be surprised when others imply you’re stupid or someone who really just likes to kill things, not actually hunt. More heads on the wall does not make you a good hunter. A really good shot can take game at 500yds. A real hunter doesn’t need to.

    12. A few notes in case anybody comes along… I am NOT a hunter. However, as an environmentalist I appreciate the value of NWR’s… and how they are managed… and how the States, the Feds, and private parties work together to manage refuges.

      So many people seem clueless about context. Some of the following has been hinted at above:

      – Duck Stamps, bought by hunters, nature lovers and others, pay for NWR’s. 98% of funds go to that… one of the most efficient gov’t programs of all.

      – Many states follow a best practice called “multiple use and sustained-yield management”
      – This DOES involve managing animal populations… and sometimes extreme measures must be taken to avoid a harmful population explosion. (If you end up with too many of one species, ALL suffer…)

      – What the Obama administration wanted to do was:
      – Replace “multiple use and sustained-yield management” with “species diversity” as the top priority. Sounds good but actually it is not smart for many reasons.
      – Ensure federal rules would override state management… thus destroying the State-Fed-Private partnership

      It’s quite obvious from other examples that the Feds don’t have animal welfare as a top priority. Example: the White House explicitly gave wind farms long term permission to kill endangered bald and golden eagles. Hundreds of thousands of birds annually have died since 2008, including dozens of bald and golden eagles.

      Bottom line: this is actually a fight over whether the feds can simply muscle in and destroy a very effective long term partnership.

      1. @Mr Pete, I appreciate the explanation, but what about the killing bears in hibernation part? I am all for “multiple use and sustained-yield management” and states being in the best positions to understand and scientifically manage their animal populations, but hunting bears in hibernation hardly seems appropriate or sporting. I don’t know any hunter that thinks that would be sporting.

        1. Hunting bears in hibernation is certainly not sporting.

          However, opposition to this bill is fixated on a false dichotomy. Alaska can have both state control of hunting regulations and prohibitions on practices deemed unethical – citizens just need to push for the state laws to be changed.

          If a majority of Alaskans are truly opposed to those practices, they can make it happen.

      2. Please cite your references for wind farms killing “Hundreds of thousands of birds annually have died since 2008, including dozens of bald and golden eagles.”

        1. The first hit in a Google search for “wind farm bird deaths us” was an article from the Audubon Society titled “Will Wind Turbines Ever Be Safe For Birds?”, dated March 16, 2016. From that article:

          “Wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America, making it the most threatening form of green energy.”

          That certainly qualifies as “hundreds of thousands” annually.

          1. That is not a peer reviewed journal nor is it a research project. Cite references and if you cannot understand that, go back to school.

            1. The Audubon Society is a long-established pro-environment group focused specifically on avian species – sort of like Greenpeace before they went so off the rails that founding members gave up on it.

              If you have a better source that says differently, feel free to share.

              Just make sure it’s not a shill for the wind energy lobby.

      3. so Mrpete, you spoke about “This DOES involve managing animal populations… and sometimes extreme measures must be taken to avoid a harmful population explosion. (If you end up with too many of one species, ALL suffer…)”

        what do you do when the human population gets to much?

    13. It truly blows my mind how the far left goes against this bill, but they protest in the streets to support killing a human fetus that is almost full term all in the name of science and population control. Yet, when a Bill is passed for the Alaskan people to survive off the land, as has been done for hundreds of years, as well as to control the black bear population, the same people who at PRO-ABORTION, fight it. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.

    14. The majority of Alaskans oppose this. This bill is for thrill-seekers and trophy hunters. Just say it like it is and quit hiding behind the people of Alaska! Your a bunch of jerks!

    15. I have no skin in this game – I’m not a resident of Alaska, nor do I have plans to go hunting there.

      It seems there are two separate but intertwined issues here – the federal government usurping the authority of the state to manage conservation within its borders, and distaste for certain hunting tactics that may become legal should control revert to the state.

      Currently, the Left Coast Liberals and Flyover State Conservatives from the lower 48 each have more of a say in this matter than the residents of Alaska do. Whatever you think of current hunting laws in Alaska (or imagine them to be), that is neither right nor fair. Those decisions should be made by the residents of Alaska via their own state representatives.

      1. A 2016 poll of Alaskans opposed this bill. Yet it was introduced anyway. Inhumane practices caused the overkilling of native alaskan predators. This resolution allows The use of Cruel tactics. Going into dens and killing wolf pups, chasing down bears from the air, that type of hunting. Ethical hunters do not hunt this way, most are actually very good stewards of the land.This resolution allows hunting in REFUGE’s and is opposed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Trophy hunters who are not hungry Akaskans will be the one’s that benefit. They have enough food already and enough money to practice this. Also, I don’t need to be a resident to know right from wrong, ethical from unethical. This is being decided Federally, not within the State.

        1. If a majority of Alaskans truly oppose it, then the laws can be changed a state level to outlaw the specific hunting practices in question. It doesn’t need to be decided federally, nor should it be.

          1. Adam and Cynthia, i have read all these comments and i think if they could just change the inhumane hunting practices and make them illegal that people would not be so upset and i would not care so much if the state had control again. but Young may think differently. i understand sometimes you need to control the population but not just so hunters can kill more moose. there has to be balance. but have some damn compassion also.

    16. NO!!! They are putting a spin on this. This is not about hunting. Hunters are against this because it’s so barbaric and cruel! It will allow whole families and wolf pups to be gassed in their dens. Bears shot while hibernating. Trapping bears with steel-jawed leg holds and snares. Allowing hunters to lure animals with food and then shooting them and point blank range, and on and on. Do your own research. This bill will allow this to happen on 16 National Wildlife REFUGES? covering 76 million acres all in Alaska. This Bill has passed Congress and now goes to the Senate and then to the President. Please contact your Senators and tell them NO to Resolution 69. Tell them we want our protected lands and protected wildlife to stay protected for our future generations.

    17. Alright, you pathetic gutless [email protected] TS has joined this thread. I classify trappers as the lowest form of humans. If any of you cowardly, smegma eating Neanderthals had any balls at all, you would find a new pastime. If the only way you can get your jollies is to shoot sleeping animals then you are beyond redemption. You are what is wrong with the world and why the aliens will never contact us.

      1. TS: Of course, they are gutless. That’s why they attack animals, the defenseless.. Everyone knows that hunters are cowards…

    18. @Troll Stool, I don’t see that you have any standing to complain because you never go out into nature. You think nature consists of the Robbins that hop around in your parents’ yard.

        1. @Troll Slime, My tribe is the United States Army, and I doubt that you have spent more time in the great outdoors than us. We are not very inbred, though. We leave children where ever we go. Ask your mom. Finally, thank you for the spelling lesson, so… what is a #sshat?

          1. Old Bill. No, your tribe is hootch drinking hillbillies who have children with each other, and you are a long way from the army, sunshine. Your hero card is expired, so shut up about it. You can ask about #sshats at your next AA meeting.

            1. @Too Snockered, I would not put a thief in my glass to steal my brains, too many critters depend upon me, but apparently you would. I don’t know how this stuff springs forth in your mind. It must be alcohol or drugs. And as far as your demand for me to shut up, well… apparently that is as tolerant as the liberal/progressive/socialists get.

    19. Hard to believe that such a top-shelf website of conservation minded hunters would support such a despicable bill that would legalize the unsportsmanlike behavior normally ascribed to poachers, the lowest of the low life that is a threat to every good minded hunter. The editors should really re-think their momentary lapse of reason. And every good minded conservation minded hunter should be outraged that this back door bill has even reached the stage it has and should contact their senator and register their outrage.

    20. I tried to research J H 69 . AK rep. Young submitted it to defeat a federal power over reach for control of game department regs. That in it self would be enough for me to get behind it. I was not able to see any changes the feds wanted but it was labeled non-subsistence policy. No ethical person, hunter or not would approve of some of the practices described above. If I read correctly the measure failed in both house and senate, however he (
      Rep. Young) may have succeeded in attaching a rider to defund it.

    21. Did you ever play the party game where you sit in a big circle and start a rumor that you whisper into the person next to you’s ear, and see how much it changed by the time it got back to you. Especially the more you’ve had to drink. Well start at the top and have a ball.

    22. there is a story of a Samurai warrior and a monk……the samurai goes to the monk and says” can you teach me about heaven and hell” the monk replies “me teach you a big, stupid, dirty Samurai” at this the samurai picks up his sword and is about cut the monks head off and then the monk looks at him as says “that is hell” the samurai puts down his sword and thinks for a moment and then the monk says “that is heaven”
      Please stop the slaughter for wildlife, because when you kill them you are killing yourself

      1. I certainly respect your choice to not hunt or eat meat. Humans are omnivores and have been hunting since recorded history. Further, humans have domesticated animals for food. I do not think there is a huge warehouse of bad karma that has been filled due to humans hunting for food over the past million years. Where is that bad karma warehouse for other top level predators that kill to eat?

    23. Keep in mind only 6 percent of our population participates in that sick demented sport called hunting. I get get so tired of these people who call themselves sportsmen talking about killing defenseless animals. And then having their repulsive pictures taken with the dead animal whose only defense is to run And most of the time they are baited. This passage speaks badly of the Rep House of Reps . And I am a Rep There is something wrong with humans who love to go our and kill something.that cannot defend itself You cannot justify that. Hey they need you in Syria! Take your fat a**es to the grocery store and eat one of the billions of farm animals who are tortured every day.

    24. I emailed my senator to vote No. Wildlife experts are against this but special interest groups have the money and power for it to pass. When given a choice between an emaciated cow elk or a trophy bull, which one will a hunter shoot and which one will a pack of wolves take down? By taking the sick, injured, and weak prey, wolves strengthen the prey species. I’m a hunter and talked to other hunters who oppose this extermination of wolves and bears. This is about money, more prey animals = more paying hunters. If it is about state rights being overruled by the federal government then Alaska should have stopped this practice at the state level. If Alaskans are starving then divert some of that oil money to feed them. Let’s have a balanced environment, after all nature knows best.

    25. A consistent thread woven through nearly all these discussions seems to be not just a difference of opinion, but more of a basic lack of specific knowledge of EXACTLY what this the proposed House Joint Resolution 69 will do and what it will overturn.

      Although links have been posted to it, I admit those links do not clearly state the Resolution’s specifics regarding what many consider inhumane & unethical hunting practices. Basically, it will overturn the existing resolution passed during the last few months of the previous administration. That existing ruling is called: “Non-Subsistence Take of Wildlife, and Public Participation and Closure Procedures, on National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska” . (You can read it in its entirety here because it helps to know EXACTLY what the new HJR69 seeks to overturn):

      But perhaps the following subsection(3) of the above is most pertinent to this discussion regarding the killing of bears/wolves w/bait; shooting from helicopters and; killing denning bears & cubs and wolves and pups. Again, the following is excerpted from the EXISTING RULING:

      “(3)This rule prohibits the following practices for the taking of wildlife on Alaska National Wildlife refuges (except for subsistence uses by federally qualified subsistence users in accordance with applicable Federal laws and regulations):
      Taking black or brown bear cubs or sows with cubs (exception allowed for resident hunters to take black bear cubs or sows with cubs under customary and traditional use activities at a den site October 15-April 30 in specific game management units in accordance with State law);
      Taking brown bears over bait;
      Taking of bears using traps or snares;
      Taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season (May 1-August 9); and
      Taking bears from an aircraft or on the same day as air travel has occurred. The take of wolves or wolverines from an aircraft or on the same day as air travel has occurred is already prohibited under current refuge regulations.”

      The existing ruling, which also includes a prohibition for Refuges to alter these rules merely to provide more “hunting game”, is what the proposed HJR 69 seeks to undo.

      1. I read the Alaska Hunting Regulations and killing animals from a helicopter is not allowed in Alaska already. So… there’s another spin to the story. Why did the Feds outlaw it if Alaska doesn’t allow it anyway. I’m confused.

        1. My take on the Federal “Non-Subsistance…… Resolution”, that was just overturned by The House, is that YES it acknowledged that the killing of WOLVES from aircraft was, indeed, already prohibited. However, it also added BEARS to that prohibition. The new HRJ69 not only overturned this resolution but also overturned the existing Alaska Hunting Regulations prohibition on killing wolves as well. IOW, now, according to HRJ69, both wolves AND bears can be shot from a helicopter. I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before elk, moose & who knows what are also added to that list. IMO, not only is this NOT hunting, but if trying to cloak this new resolution under the guise of ‘enhanced subsistence for Alaskan Native Americans’, I highly doubt most citizens of the over a dozen Alaskan Native American tribes can afford those pricey helicopter rides. Plus I think most of them have a little more pride in their hunting skills & ethics than that.

      2. Who are these “…federally qualified subsistence users…” that are allowed to harvest bear sows and their cubs and wolves in there dens, but the rest of us can not? What happened to equal protection under the law. Some unnamed “federally qualified subsistence users” can, but I can not! This House Joint Resolution 69 is clearly more objectionable the more I find out about it!

        1. I think you broke the code Wild Bill. The more the citizens of this country are kept in the dark/kept ignorant of the real truth (about everything), the more we can be manipulated and fooled by the ‘powers that be’. (More specifically by the REAL powers behind the throne including those w/personal agendas & the money men & women.) They’ve historically banked on the gullibility and laziness of the people not to pursue research, ask questions and hold their reps’ feet to the fire. Sorry, didn’t want to drift off into politics. But this is a political issue after all. Seems almost everything is nowadays. 🙁

    26. First of all, I’m from the South and know about hunting although I’m not a hunter. Killing for sport and especially killing animals in their dens as well as killing baby wolves is wrong on so many levels. That is not hunting; it’s slaughter. Using high-powered atv’s, helicopters, and trucks is not hunting. If the only way these people can “hunt” is this, they are not hunters but in my opinion, ignorant killers. Animals for food is one thing, slaughtering for fun is sick.

    27. I am a loyal Republican and agree with almost everything they stand for. However, I most certainly do not agree with their imbedded positions regarding animals and the environment. The fail safe position is always state’s rights and individual rights over the rights of defenseless creatures who we are morally responsible to husband. Hunting would be a much more interesting sport if animals could carry guns and shoot back.

      In my state the DNR wants to disallow farmers from haying ditches. With most farms now planting nothing but corn and soybeans this is virtually the only habitat available for birds and pollinators. They say they have always done it and that it is their land. Never mind that the government owns surface easement rights and can legally regulate it however they please. The farmer’s say “this is the only hay we have on our property”. Well please, plant some on your land and give up a few acres of row crops. Of course the Republicans are in favor of letting them continue to cut and bale the ditches in the spirit of “private property rights”. Meanwhile technology is in the works to have drones pollinate fields in anticipation of the day there are no bees or butterflies. Has the country gone crazy?

    28. This DESPICABLE Bill would not only allow killing of bears, Bear cubs, wolves and wolf pups in and around their dens, but it would allow trophy hunters to use aircraft to scout and chase grizzly bears and then land and shoot them. THIS IS THE LOWEST OF LOWS! THIS IS NOT WILDLIFE “MANAGEMENT” HUNTING – THIS IS WILDLIFE SLAUGHTER, IT IS WILDLIFE TERRORISM! If this bill does go through there are a growing number of people that will be canceling their vacations and WILL BOYCOTT Alaska and Alaska Products you can be SURE OF THAT!

    29. It has been a long time since I’ve seen such a bunch of ill informed, totally ignorant people in one place. You aunties must have very hard time breathing with your head up your butt. Game laws are managed for the benefit of all of the species and it works just fine when we keep you A-holes out. ALL animals benefit from sound game management. If this Fed take over was enacted by Doggie-Doo before he was ejected from the White House, it was done to reek havoc on the Alaskan people, and for no other reason. As usual you flatulate through your mouth and have no idea what you are talking about.

      1. Raymond Miller, you said the existing Fed.Resolution “was enacted…to reek havoc on the Alaskan people….”.
        Can you explain (to someone who’s quite ready & able to inhale) how those existing regs. would have negatively impacted the Alaskan people? Especially since there seemed enough caveats that would could have enabled them to continue their established hunting practices.

        Specifically, I’d be referring to article (3) in that Resolution which seems to be the main bone of contention here:
        “(3)This rule prohibits the following practices for the taking of wildlife on Alaska National Wildlife refuges (except for subsistence uses by federally qualified subsistence users in accordance with applicable Federal laws and regulations):
        Taking black or brown bear cubs or sows with cubs (exception allowed for resident hunters to take black bear cubs or sows with cubs under customary and traditional use activities at a den site October 15-April 30 in specific game management units in accordance with State law);
        Taking brown bears over bait;
        Taking of bears using traps or snares;
        Taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season (May 1-August 9); and
        Taking bears from an aircraft or on the same day as air travel has occurred. The take of wolves or wolverines from an aircraft or on the same day as air travel has occurred is already prohibited under current refuge regulations.”

        The existing ruling also includes a prohibition for Refuges to alter these rules MERELY TO PROVIDE “HUNTING GAME”. In this specific regard, HJR69 would seem anathema to the concept of “sound game management” and could be nothing more than a subterfuge to supply more trophy/sport hunters, as opposed to supplying and benefiting food & subsistence resources for the Natives to which you referred.

    30. Jim Lim, you must be the most patient person in America to take the time to reference the facts of this horrible bill. I have submitted no to me state senators, but, even amidst your sanity, I have been laughing out lout throughout this thread!

    31. Regrettably, Margie, I’ve never really though of myself as a particularly patient person. But thanks for that anyway.

      I do think it’s important to ’try’ and be patient enough to (again) ‘try’ and listen to both sides, no matter how fiercely we may feel about each other’s opinions and arguments.

      But if those opinions or arguments don’t come from a place of at least some knowledge, or it becomes obvious someone doesn’t really know what they’re talking about or they’re arguing with “alternative truths”, then IMO that’s the end of the conversation. It degrades to a yelling match and an exercise in futility to interact w/someone who is basically clueless.

      I know this particular discussion and its inherent subject matter brings forth a lot of emotions for many of us, and I realize it’s hard to put our hearts aside in order to concentrate on facts. Having said that, I’m all for people YELLING FACTS WITH ALL THEIR HEARTS AND EMOTIONS to people in a position to enact legislation or vote it down. Hearts & minds should work together in balance.

    32. Remember, if you really want to be heard and really want to make an impact, everyone should have their congresspersons & senators either on speed dial & call them or have their email addresses and write them. Too many people chicken out when asked for their names & addresses. It’s not an invasion of privacy. You’re not put on any ‘enemies list’. You’re just exercising your rights as an American citizen who (hopefully) votes.

      If enough average citizens create a large enough presence w/either phone calls or emails, there’s a greater chance of being heard & seen over the paid lobbyists. It’s sure worth a try if it means that much to you.

    33. This is just totally amazing, I’ll lay ten to one odds, that these whining, bleeding hearts have no trouble with funding Planned Parenthood. No matter what anyone says they just don’t pay any attention to facts and have no logic in their arguments. No one in their right mind would kill a baby anything, and no one in their right mind would kill a human baby and sell the parts. But the whack jobs think that is perfectly OK and if you can make a profit from selling the parts that’s even better. Yet we hunters are the bad guys, we do more for wildlife in one day than most of these A**holes do in a year. If it weren’t for hunters more than one species would have been extinct years ago, because of GREEDY people not sportsmen/women.

      1. The point is apparently moot. As of yesterday the Bill was passed by the Senate and awaits Trump’s pen.
        The Republican-sponsored legislation would undo the Alaska National Wildlife Refuges Rule, ultimately opening the door for the state to resume aggressive predator control tactics, including shooting bears and wolves from airplanes and killing cubs and pups in their dens.

        The Senate passed the resolution by a 52-47 party-line vote. It was adopted last month by the House, so the measure now heads to Trump’s desk for final approval.[END QUOTE]

        Sanity – on so many levels these days – has left the building. So, too, has the logic, reason, compassion and humanity granted to us – on loan mind you – from God.
        I think it’s time to build another Ark.

    34. The point of discussion is apparently moot. The Bill has passed the Senate and awaits Trump’s pen:
      [Quote from the above referenced article]
      “The Republican-sponsored legislation would undo the Alaska National Wildlife Refuges Rule, ultimately opening the door for the state to resume aggressive predator control tactics, including shooting bears and wolves from airplanes and KILLING PUBS AND CUBS IN THEIR DENS.

      The Senate passed the resolution by a 52-47 party-line vote. It was adopted last month by the House, so the measure now heads to Trump’s desk for final approval.”[End Quote]

      Sanity – on so many fronts these days – has left the room. And along with it, compassion, logic and the humanity granted to us – on loan mind you – from God. I think it’s time to build another Ark.

    35. The point is apparently moot. As of yesterday the Bill was passed by the Senate and awaits Trump’s pen.
      The Republican-sponsored legislation would undo the Alaska National Wildlife Refuges Rule, ultimately opening the door for the state to resume aggressive predator control tactics, including shooting bears and wolves from airplanes and killing cubs and pups in their dens.

      The Senate passed the resolution by a 52-47 party-line vote. It was adopted last month by the House, so the measure now heads to Trump’s desk for final approval.[END QUOTE]

      Sanity – on so many levels these days – has left the building. So, too, has the logic, reason, compassion and humanity granted to us – on loan mind you – from God.
      I think it’s time to build another Ark.

      1. Sorry about the triple-posting. For some reason it didn’t post the first couple times I tried, and the third time I tried it kinda went kaflooey. Guess I thought they’d closed this topic for comments because for all intents and purposes, HJR69 is a done deal so it doesn’t much matter how loud anyone screams to affect any legislation at this point.

    36. So H.J. Res 69 overturns a rule that has been in place since August of 2016, less than a year. This isn’t about animals, its about states rights. Frankly if you are killing bears or wolves or anything from aircraft or while they are sleeping or when they are rearing cubs or pups YOU SUCK. But Alaska apparently has the right to manage it’s own natural resources. If you care about this, contact someone from the lists located on this page: http://akleg.gov/ You can advocate for Alaska’s predators with the people who actually run the show. I assume it will mean more to them if it comes from people who actually live in Alaska, nevertheless, they have more ability to do something about it than anyone posting here!

    37. All of you “people” who support hunting for sport in the slightest should be hunted down and shot yourselves. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. OF. YOU. Since before our egotistical species created “god” our planet has thrived in a balance. Wolves and bears aren’t greedy and selfish. They know not to take too much because if they did, they wouldn’t have any food! All this bill does is allow selfish, greedy, egotistical bastards to feel powerful and like “god” for deciding the fate of our neighbors. Nature has a way of keeping itself balanced, even when it comes to our species. Why do you think the planet wipes some off us out periodically? BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY OF US. We pop out more babies than any other species on the planet, besides insects. Honestly, the only population control we need is over ourselves. Our country has already done something like this with Yellowstone, and look at the horrendous consequences that had. We learned, but obviously didn’t learn enough. Our species is a cancer, and I cannot wait until our planet takes back what we have destroyed. Following through with acts like this, will eventually lead to our devastating end. On top of that, all you hunters claim to be such “godly” and “christian” individuals. Do you honestly think that your “god” will accept you for needlessly murdering your neighbors? What happened to following the commandment “though shall not murder?” Last time I checked, that didn’t specify ANY type of species.

      1. Do you eat meat, wear leather, eat at mcdonalds, wendys, subway, how about oysters, fish, clams, chicken, escargot, caviar, drink milk, or eat eggs? check out ants, roaches, chickens, turkeys, dogs, cats and a host of others reproductive schedules.by the way god fed the masses with fish and put all other creathers at mans dominion.

        1. Me thinks you just want someone else to your murder for you. I once saw a letter to the editor that stated “All you people should go to the grocery store to buy your meat where no animals were harmed”

      2. Hang in there Savannah, here comes nurse Ratched with your medication. By the way, just where is that commandment? Your vague references will be clarified for you after your medication kicks in.

        1. Wow, SS has made the most illiterate, non sequitur, and self hating comment that I have ever read. SS does not know that murder only applies to humans. Does not know that all predators kill for the fun of it (even a cute little fox in the hen house will kill chicken that it can get a hold of.) Does not know that Christianity brought the concept of mercy to the world in an institutional way. Does not believe in God, but claims to check scripture. Hates her own species, but refuses to do away with her own self. Claims to know what all hunters proclaim, and claims to know the future.
          I do not have the energy, nor the time left on earth to unfunk her mind.

      3. Well said Savannah !!! At last someone who speaks the truth. Yes, there are far too many of us but the words “population control” are never addressed as it doesn’t get votes. Animals, especially wildlife, are scapegoats for the destruction of the planet by humans and so-called “wildlife services” target predator species like wolves and bears. They want to eliminate these wonderful creatures because the hunters want to kill moose and bison that wild animals predate on. Also, there’s money involved in buying licences to kill wild animals. Trigger happy, gun-toting animal abusers and murderers are always quick to sign up and go out with their guns to target innocent animals. They even teach their children to participate in these orgies of recreational violence perpetrated on wildlife. There is a wealth of wildlife in America so why can’t you people enjoy observing how these creatures live – they are all part of the eco-system and are like humans as they live in family social groups but animal killers would scoff at this description of majestic bears and wolves and just see them as living targets to bag. These people are morally and spiritually bankrupt. Unfortunately we have the same share of scum in England but thankfully most people don’t own guns and bows and arrows. Isn’t there enough violence in this world ?

        1. You hit the nail on the head with that one we are the most dangerous species and we mow down whatever other species that gets in our way. It’s sad really and the more overpopulated we become the last there will be room for other species. And then they think they have the right to do it because some deity they make up up in the heavens gives them the right to do it

          1. @Rob j, SS and SH, The day dedicated to you and those who think like you is tomorrow. Could you all not have waited until then?

        2. @Sharon Hopkins Are you not aware that only native subsidence hunters will be able to hunt the cubs and pups in their dens? Are you not aware that most animal species are protected by hunting seasons? Absent hunting seasons, animals could be hunted every day all year long. Are you not aware that the American bison was nearly made extinct by the an act of nature called brucellosis that is carried by biting flies? Are you not aware that you are in the UK and have no standing to complain in the US? Are you not aware of the many pleasant ways of ridding the earth of yourself?

    38. You cowards should at least kill the pups, or cubs, while theyre still in their mother’s wombs. Everyone knows it’s ok to end a life BEFORE it’s born, not after!!

    39. I think ethics and civility have been completely obliterated by both this topic and the ensuing discussions(?) Neither hunter or non-hunter will ever sway each other’s mindsets. It’s one of those never-ending, futile ideological battles. This HJR69 is now a closed issue as far as urging its passing or defeating it. It’s done. For now anyway.

      But as Dave suggested:
      [QUOTE] “If you care about this, contact someone from the lists located on this page: http://akleg.gov/ You can advocate for Alaska’s predators with the people who actually run the show. “[END QUOTE]

      For those of you who feel that your opinions might still make an impact, then contact those Alaska state reps and whoever else within the state you feel would be receptive to your words. Granted, to paraphrase Dave, if you’re not a resident, your words may fall on deaf ears. But it’s still worth a try, and it sure is a helluva lot more productive than bitching at each other here where you gain nothing, but you just lose your time and waste your own energy. Energy (at this point) that could be better spent advocating and being proactive either for or against other issues that threaten us, wildlife, nature & the environment almost daily.

    40. I grew up hunting and fishing my entire life. I was deer hunting by the time I was 9. I have no issue with ethical hunting of non protected species for food. but if you are willing to shoot a hibernating bear you aren’t a hunter. You are a Coward. You also make it very very easy for the non hunters to lump us all together.

      1. @Chip G, I believe that only the native American subsistence hunters of Alaska (whom ever they might be) will be authorized to hunt bears and wolves in their dens. You or I can not. Think about that.

        1. Wild Bill you said “Are you not aware that only native subsidence hunters will be able to hunt the cubs and pups in their dens? ” Now why on earth would any sane or compassionate person would want to do that? What reason? I haven’t seen the word “compassion” in this article but I’m not surprised with people like you airing your disgusting and cruel remarks about our wonderful wildlife. I may live in England but I love ALL wildlife, wherever it is and will fight to protect it.
          You also said “Are you not aware of the many pleasant ways of ridding the earth of yourself?” I am sick of having to share this lovely planet with the likes of you and your disgusting and intolerant ways towards other living creatures. All this rubbish about subsistence, no one is starving in 2017 unless you live in some parts of Africa where there is drought and civil wars. People like you are sympathetic to killing or actually enjoy indulging in the killing of wildlife as you are completely insensitive to other creature’s needs. It probably doesn’t occur to you that all wildlife have their own right to exist and they manage and control their own species. Unfortunately when I leave this earth I know I will leave behind people like you who relish the ‘sport’ of killing MY wildlife because you don’t have the brains or sensitivity to occupy your idle time with learning or studying subjects or even observing your local wildlife. People like you are destroyers. If you are religious then you are destroying God’s creatures. You are full of hatred for all these beautiful creatures who are all trying to survive. Shame on you !

          1. @SH, I believe the actual words of the statute are “subsistence uses by federally qualified subsistence users”. Those are the native Inuit peoples. You racist bigot, how do you dare criticize a native people’s way of life! Don’t you think that the Inuit have a right to exist? Shame on you. When you leave this earth, the Inuit will dance.

    41. Can anyone explain to me why is it so thrilling to snuff out the life of a sentient creature that has never impinged on anyone. Wild animals are trying to survive and yet people enjoy killing bears, wolves and other animals from planes, they trap and poison them and other vile methods under the guise of “management”. The human race is increasing at an alarming rate stealing habitats from animals that have lived in the wild for centuries. It’s the human race that needs to be managed and controlled as we are the pest species. People who enjoy murdering a hibernating bear and its cubs and wolves and coyotes with their cubs are the lowest of the low. These people obviously don’t have the intelligence to indulge in cerebral interests like reading or taking up a hobby that doesn’t involve the slaughter of wildlife for fun. Why are you people declaring war on wildlife? My only hope is that what comes around goes around and that when all you hunters, shooters, trappers, poisoners etc. are on your deathbeds that the spirits of all these wonderful and majestic creatures you stole the life from, will haunt you into perpetuity and I also hope that what goes around comes around. Shame on the lot of you with your weapons of mass destruction.

    42. I believe the gormless, brain-dead Sarah Palin lives in Alaska and she indulges in killing wolves and bears from her own plane so she probably supports this so-called form of “management”. She hates the environment so any wild creature is fair game to this moronic woman. She’s a joke, she can’t even speak properly. Killing bears and wolves from planes is the most disgusting and barbaric form of slaughter – why? To see a beautiful animal’s life snuffed out because people have the !right! to do it is outrageous. There are even wildlife contests where coyotes and other creatures are killed and the participants win prizes for the biggest animal they slaughter. What planet are you people on? It’s 2017 and yet you people are still locked in the Dark Ages. If you want a war go to Syria or Iraq with your guns but then it’s easier to kill an animal as they can’t shoot back. Trophy hunters are sick psychos, they put the heads of the animals they killed on the walls of their homes. How revolting !!! I hope Mother Nature wreaks revenge on you all !!!

      1. @SH, I believe the gormless, brain dead Sharon Hopkins lives in England and has no standing to complain in the affairs of Americans. She hates her environment (England), and human beings. SH is a joke and can not even speak English properly. Bla bla bla! Oh, yeah I been to Iraq, and if hunting offends your delicate sensibilities you should see close support air ops!

        1. So, Wild Bill Hickok has been to Iraq. Pity he didn’t stay there. I happen to love my country, it’s just that I have to live on the same planet as people like WB. It seems us with “delicate sensibilities” can never get through to the WBs and his ilk as his sort are on another planet. Why can’t you cherish and enjoy wildlife instead of wanting to destroy it? People like WB are ignorant cowards who think that by eliminating another species is fun and macho with their big guns and other forms of extermination. These people are inadequates which is why they resort to taking their frustrations out on sentient beings. There are no words to describe the WBs of this world, they are despised by people who love nature and want to protect it. If I had my way I would stick all these hunters, shooters, poisoners, trappers into rockets and send them all into orbit, ensuring there’s insufficient fuel for a return journey. Trouble is, there aren’t enough rockets.

          1. @Sharon H, Wild Bill Hickok was never in Iraq. The typical Englishman is so poor and so used to being ruled over that all they can do is talk or write. Some don’t even do that well (inadequate is an adjective or an adverb not a noun).
            Here at the ranch we have set aside an untouched seventeen acre corridor for the deer and other wildlife to get down to the river unmolested, except by other wildlife. We have eleven rescue dogs, 12 rescue horses, and donate to twenty-seven animal charities. What has Sharon done for wild life, ever?
            It has been a long time since anyone questioned my personal courage. And finally, You don’t have to live on the same planet as I do. I encourage you to seek other alternatives, and get your British nose out of American business.

            1. Whoa, WB, I was commenting on Sharron B., not you. I too have a problem with the holier than thou lefties. It is amazing that SB, if she does live in GB, would have so much to say about a subject she obviously knows little if anything about. particularly in a country where only the a select few can hunt.

          2. Yes you would eradicate anyone who disagrees with you or does something that you don’t approve of. Fortunately there are more of us who LOVE our CONSTITUTION and the FREEDOM it provides that we out number you trolls. If you don’t like America and Americans then maybe you should hop on a rocket and move to Mars. You are one of the reasons that I am not totally opposed to abortion, it’s just to bad you mommy didn’t believe in it.

            1. @ray, Actually ray, I spent my entire life defending my fellow Americans and our Constitution. I would not eradicate any of them. Although, I do object to an English person trying to impose their all knowing will upon Americans. Just like our forefathers.

          3. Actually, hunters love nature and DO protect it, much more than naive little twits like you who know nothing about how nature actually works. We cherish and enjoy wildlife and ensure that species are not eliminated, and prevent starvation and disease through our practices of managed harvest. We are often highly amused by the ineffectual rantings of ignorant twitty girls like you, though, knowing how much turmoil and frustration imagined offenses are generating for you in attempting to interfere with our healthy practices.

            Too bad England is such an overpopulated socialist State. Otherwise more of you would get a chance at a natural education.

            1. Brian, do you know what a little POS fascist you sound like? Step inside an echo chamber if you don’t know yet. I’m all for hunting but can’t stand the self-righteous chest pounding fascists that have to belittle people having any opinion alternative to your’s. Grow-up if there’s time.

    43. Yet another document to be better informed on this entire subject. It’s the original ruling w/all the proposals & adoptions that the new HJR69 has overturned. It’s long, but if you really want to know what you’re talking about or against, it’s here. Read it or skim it. Whatever.
      You’ll note that Native Alaskan tribes were as thoroughly as possible consulted. Taking into account the remoteness and lack of technological communications. As a matter of fact it seems that Natives’ welfare was of major concern to Fish & Wildlife Dept. & the formation of that ruling.
      Additionally, that ruling SOLELY applied to the National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska. Refuges consist of 76 million acres out of Alaka’s (approx.) total of 350,000 million acres, I’d say that left an awful lot of additional non-refuge land for not only native’s to hunt upon and a helluva lot of acreage for tourist or trophy hunters to explore. There was NEVER a prohibition of Native Alaskans to hunt upon Alakas’s National Refuges. The only restrictions on those refuges were on SOME of the means of those takes. i.e. Black Bear baiting was never prohibited.
      See: Black Bear Baiting:
      •…”black bear baiting is authorized in accordance with state regulations on refuges in Alaska. This change ensures consistency in the regulations…”
      Because it obviously bears repeating: The now overturned previous ruling NEVER APPLIED TO SUBSISTENCE HUNTING BY NATIVES. IT CLEARLY STATES IT PERTAINED TO NON-SUBSISTENCE HUNTING PRACTICES. As in sport/trophy hunting.
      Prohibitions for non-subsistence take of predators on refuges (i.e. sport hunting) in Alaska was enacted under the previous (now overturned) ruling “due to the potential impacts to predator populations and the environment that are inconsistent with the F&G Service’s mandates to conserve the natural and biological diversity, biological integrity and environmental health on refuges in Alaska”. IOW: It prohibited predator control on Refuges if that predator control was conducted purely for the benefit of increasing prey species.

      “Predator control is not allowed on refuges in Alaska unless it is determined to be necessary to meet refuge purposes and NOT merely for more wildlife for human harvest (i.e.: prey species),which cannot be the sole or primary basis for predator control on refuges in Alaska. 
      And for those of you who thought the previous resolution was anti-hunting:
      “The Service considers hunting to be one of many priority uses of the refuge system (when and where compatible with refuge purposes) that is a healthy, traditional outdoor pastime, deeply rooted in the American heritage. The Service fully recognizes and considers that rural residents utilize and are often dependent on refuge resources for subsistence purposes and manages for this use consistent with the conservation of species and habitats in their natural diversity. Managing for natural diversity includes avoiding emphasis of management activities favoring some species to the detriment of others and assuring that habitat diversity is maintained through natural means, avoiding artificial developments and habitat manipulation programs whenever possible.”

      I’m almost certain the only reason HJR 69 was proposed & approved was to decrease predator population in order to increase game/prey population supplies for sport/trophy hunters. It had nothing to do w/state’s rights. A mantra that’s too often flogged to death. Alaska State Gaming still holds court over what hunting practices, etc. go on in their entire remaining 275,000 million acres & they’re not totally moot in regards to Refuges’ affairs btw. They should also be mindful that Alaska tourism might take a big hit from this new resolution. Refuges bring in a helluva lot of tourist dollars to see those bears and wolves. Obviously Alaskan budget-braintrusts thinks their coffers will overflow w/cash from non-ethical hunters parading through those Refuges enough as to outweigh the dollars from those unarmed tourists who traditionally spend more.

      IMO, you don’t descimate nearly entire species w/callous, inhumane regard as to how you do it, too (if that even matters at that point) in order to just provide more non-predator/prey targets for paying customers who (a) don’t even live there; (b) hardly need the game for lack of food from their local supermarkets in the lower 48; or (c) just for thrills. In essense, all are now welcome everywhere in Alaska,, including now our national, preserved refuges, to not only inhumanely slaughter predators, but when the numbers & future generations of bears & wolves are nearly obliterated, then those ‘hunters’ can aim at the resulting overpopulating prey species no long being controlled naturally. Ironically, w/so many interlopers entering these killing fields, the subsitence supply for the Natives may be severely adversely affected. How’s that for twisted logic?

      I’ve seen too many killing (hunting) fields where dozens and dozens of deer/turkey & small game carcasses have been left to rot by thrill killers who masquerade as ethical hunters or similar game shot & left by the side of the road from spotlighting pickups driving by at night. If you’re a hunter – a REAL hunter – you should be as appalled by these travesties. This is not sport. It’s inhumane, unconscionable, callous ignorance.

      1. I realize what I wrote above is long, convoluted and may very well not be read by most.
        So here it is, (maybe)short & (not so) sweet: The Congressionally-passed bill that will most likely shortly be signed by Trump is nothing more than a transparent desire to extend Alaska’s statewide inhumane/cruel/or unethical methods, which they euphemistically call “predator control”…to extend these methods into Federally Funded National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska. They claim that being unable to utilize these methods severely inhibits natives from acquiring needed subsistence. This is bull.
        Natives (and from what I gather ONLY natives) have been and would have continued to be able to hunt there for SUBSISTENCE as long as they followed certain ethical and humane principles set down in the previous resolution.

        Rep. Young (who proposed the bill and from what I’ve researched is very much despised by many Alaskan constituents and who praises himself for having shot wolves & pups in their dens, btw) cloaks this as a state’s rights issue. As in: The Fed has no right to limit our practices. Hey, even though it’s unethical & cruel, the Fed isn’t telling them not to continue their inhumanity on other Alaskan hunting grounds. Just not in Federally Funded Wildlife Refuges. It’s called a WILDLIFE REFUGE because that’s where wildlife is supposed to be able to SEEK FREAKING REFUGE & where Alaska gets over $2billion in tourist bucks each year. More annual revenues than from visiting hunters. Note: “Visiting”. Even those that rent helicopters.
        Generally, Natives only kill what they need for food, clothing or to sell for a living. But now they’ll have to compete w/$$$trophy hunters. Remember when Palin offered bounties for helicopter wolf kills to anyone who’d cut off & produce one of its forelegs?
        Isn’t there a melting ice floe somewhere up there she could drift away on?

        It’s really about whether predator control should occur in national wildlife refuges. Personally, I believe the prohibited hunting methods are nothing more than thinly veiled predator control, which should not be allowed on land managed in the national interest.

    44. GOP claim to be pro-life but guess that only applies to humans! The Republicans believe in saving a fetus over the mother who may have other children at home who are dependent on her. Guess this is the same concept.

      The GOP believe in slaughtering and killing animals by any means leaving bear cubs and wolf pups to die a slow death from dehydration and lack of nourishment.

      I very rarely expect much positive from this group. Wonder if the GOP brain is set up differently because I cannot begin to conceive how they rationalize their thoughts?

    45. Such a bunch of ignorance in the comments. Very few that I’ve seen comment have researched what’s happening or what Alaska’s laws are in regards to the hunting practices in question. The natives – Indians or Eskimos if you will – used to hunt bear and such with spears and bows. Before guns were readily available, to get the meat and hide of bears they sometimes would kill a hibernating bear as a safe way to harvest it. There was a multi year study done from 1978 to 1987 which gathered hunting practices from all the clusters of villages inhabited by native Alaskans. Only one man was found, during the study, that had killed a bear in a den.

      Alaska’s laws for sport hunting prohibit hunting bear in dens, hunting close to garbage dumps, allow only limited baiting in specific areas, do not allow hunting bear the same day as flying, nor any animal within 300 yards of a plane, and only allow trapping of three small game animals besides the rodent tye, being otter, muskrat, etc. – Ptarmigan, Rabbits, and Grouse. The laws are actually very restrictive in the methods that any animal can be hunted.

      Try looking something up instead of arguing from ignorance.

      You morons who don’t like hunting, don’t do it. If you eat any meat at all, or use any leather or substance that’s been tested on an animal you don’t even have a right to a voice on the subject. If you do any of this, you’d better visit a slaughter house and see how the “domestic” animals are killed, and the farms to see how they’re treated when alive.

      1. Brian, Thank you for the links. I actually learned quite a bit more about the hunting, subsistence uses and cultural regard Native Alaskans have for bears. I’d suspected that Native Alaskans inherently had more respect & reason for their ‘kills’ than trophy hunters.

        However, you and many others are arguing two separate issues here. There will NEVER be any end or compromise to the ideological/ethical differences between hunters and non-hunters. That’s a separate issue from this topic, which is that this resolution seeks to introduce inhumane/unethical alleged ‘predator control’ practices into federally-funded National Wildlife Refuges where previously they were prohibited. PERIOD.

        While your other links refer to Alaskan hunting regulations in general, this Resolution refers SOLELY to altering hunting practices in Alaska’s National Wildlife Refuges.
        The previous resolution (the one this new resolution seeks to overturn) didn’t prohibit hunting on Wildlife Refuges, but merely prohibited certain practices:


        (From Section #3)”This rule prohibits the following practices for the taking of wildlife on Alaska National Wildlife refuges (except for subsistence uses by federally qualified subsistence users in accordance with applicable Federal laws and regulations):
        Taking black or brown bear cubs or sows with cubs (exception allowed for resident hunters to take black bear cubs or sows with cubs under customary and traditional use activities at a den site October 15-April 30 in specific game management units in accordance with State law);
        Taking brown bears over bait;
        Taking of bears using traps or snares;
        Taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season (May 1-August 9); and
        Taking bears from an aircraft or on the same day as air travel has occurred. The take of wolves or wolverines from an aircraft or on the same day as air travel has occurred is already prohibited under current refuge regulations.”

        The overturning of these practices, btw, are deemed by even Alaskans themselves as unethical. Emotions run high. Yes. But, in your own words, facts must be argued.


        1. Jim,
          It matters not whether the rules applied to the wildlife refuge, the Alaskan laws cover it, and relating to one of your earlier comments, hunting and fishing are officially recognized as important activities in Federal Wildlife Refuges. The Department of Interior rule, which by the way only went into affect late last year, has not overturned any significant activity because it was mostly redundant. The practices are already outlawed by the State, and the State would always seek to control the population of game animals through hunting rather than spend the money and effort to partake in special predator control activities. Aside from that – if the population of a species of animal gets to the point that it needs to be reduced or overcome the balance of nature, and sport harvesting won’t reach the objective, then any easiest means, with minimal possible suffering to animals, to reduce that population short of damaging the environment should be allowed. The most humane way to eliminate a bear, if it was necessary, would be to kill it in it’s sleep rather than chase it, terrorize it, hurt it, don’t you think? An example of a necessary action would be the elimination of the Sea Lamprey in the Great Lakes through poisons, barriers, traps, and natural odors to attract them to destruction. Another example is the elimination of a large number of Whitetail Deer in a local community here in West Michigan by professional slaughterers to reduce damage to lawn decoration and gardens.

          Also, “facts must be argued” were not my words, just to keep the record straight.

      2. As a ” moron” who hates hunting or the killing of any creature for fun, I do not eat meat or wear leather. That is my contribution to the planet. As for your ridiculous comments that hunters actually love nature and protect it ? Is this some kind of joke? So, you go out with your gun, see a bear or a wolf, take aim and kill it and you call that “protect”? Has it never occurred to you that that animal you snuffed the life out of, probably had cubs to feed and they will now starve to death all because you wanted a cheap thrill to end the life of a sentient being who had as much right as you to exist (in fact that animal had MORE right than you to exist). “We cherish and enjoy wildlife and ensure that species are not eliminated”. What a load of ******* !!!! Animals control their own numbers and they don’t need YOU or any other gun-toting, trigger happy b*****d to take their life. I am not ignorant. What am I supposed to frustrate? How dare you call the killing of an innocent creature a “healthy practice”. You have a wealth of wildlife in America that you could enjoy observing and protecting (I mean real protecting) but instead of cherishing your heritage you want to “control” and “manage” it which is a euphemism for murder. No wonder there are so many gun crimes in your country with your lax gun laws with massacres at schools and cinemas etc.. Don’t expect us to shed any tears when this happens. At least we don’t have that problem in “Socialist” England. I understand you can get a gun as easy as buying candy. Well, I hope you and your mindless animal murderers reap that what you sow and what goes around comes around.

        1. @Sharon, Really, that is all that you are able to contribute? My sympathies. Yes, hunters do love wild life and work to protect the entire species. If there are too few, we do not hunt. If too many, limits are increased. Every individual of every species is going to die anyway, so the survival of the species is important. That a very few of any species is sacrificed to protect the whole species is unimportant.
          Yes, during the hunting season, we are required to check to see if the female game animal still has young with it (e.g. in MN you are required to pass on mothers with young, and collared bears). Animals do not control their own numbers. They procreate as much as the environment will allow, then the starvation die off begins. You are ignorant, and I do have a suspicion why you are frustrated. Proper game management is preferable to the cruel methods that Mother Nature uses to control populations (e.g. starvation and being torn apart and eaten alive by predator species.) Guns do not commit crime. That is a made up term. Murder only applies to the human species.

    46. to all the neanderthals on this site who enjoy slaughtering wildlife for fun, i wish a trillion plagues, poxes, zika viruses etc. etc. on you all. you may call yourselves conservationists but you certainly put the “con” into conservation. you people are a cancer in the world, unfortunately your evil tentacles reach far and wide. i hope you reap that what you all sew and that on your deathbeds the spirits of all the creatures you slaughtered for fun, will haunt you all into perpetuity.

      1. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. I love to see these moorons go nuts, they are a riot, funny as hell. But very dangerous, because they have no morality, Kill a baby, OK, hunt oh no that’s bad. Fleeking nut jobs really show their self when they can’t/don’t win. It’s moorons like SH who are still crying over Trump winning the election, funny but, DANGEROUS, if they can’t have their way.

      2. @Sharon Hopkins, Because you live in England, you are not aware of the Lacy Act and the Robertson-Pittman Act. These two acts of Congress were insisted on by American Sportsman. The Lacy Act outlawed market hunting (i.e. the taking of all the animal species in large amounts for purpose of selling to restaurants, canneries, foreign buyers.)
        The Robertson-Pittman Act placed a ten percent tax on all firearms and ammunition sold in the United States (note: now it is eleven percent and applies to archery as well).
        All of the Robertson-Pittman tax monies are supposed to go for buying and improving wild life habitat, but now liberal Democrat politicians (read Barry Soetoro) use those monies for their port barrel projects.
        Absent the American hunter there would be no wild life in America (much like the socialist states in Europe).

    47. Wild Bill – I have read your comments and come to the obvious conclusion you are an ignorant IDIOT that could never understand anything about anything. Your type make me sick.

      1. Well, Adrian, that is pretty broad. I am sure that my “type” probably does make you sick. Some people can not be hard working, self sacrificing, truth seeking defenders of their country, nation, and constitution. They just do not have it in them. And, therefore, they are sickened by jealousy and self loathing by people that have spent their lives in such pursuits. By the way, are you in England? Are you friends with Sharon?

        1. Wild Bill – yes, I do live in England where many of us abhor the type of hobby you and all the rest of the sick sadists enjoy. I cannot understand what you are saying when you talk about “sickened by jealousy and self loathing” What do you mean ?

    48. Killing bear cubs and wolf pups and their mothers has NOTHING to do with hunting – it’s nothing but the murder of babies and tells a lot about the progressive decline of the human society’s values. I’m deeply ashamed to be part of such a low and worthless species that obeys to “laws” promoting greed, enviousness, megalomania, recklessness, destruction and selfishness and condemning or even punishing compassion, decency, commitment for the weaker, protection of vital resources, wildlife and environment and all other true values without a dollar sign on it!

    49. Yup it’s now official… Two days ago on Tuesday April 4th 2017 Trump just overturned a rule that protected our majestic wildlife in Alaska This now legally opens the door to the most heinous and disgusting anti-wildlife and pro trophy hunting techniques.
      It is vile and cruel. The majority of hunters are even against these tactics because it is so unethical. By overturning this protection rule, trump has now made it legally ok for dens to be gassed to kill wolf pups and entire families. Bears to be shot while hibernating. Hunters to lure animals with food and then shoot them at point blank range. Aerial spotting’s of bears so as to land for an easy shot. Barbaric steel grip traps and snares to be set and on and on.

        1. The repeal of the federal regulation only allows federally qualified subsistence hunters to hunt anything in its den. I don’t think that includes anyone outside of the Inuit. And of those Inuit subsistence hunters, few have done the paperwork to become “federally qualified”. The repeal of this federal regulation does return control of hunting to the state of Alaska. Now, the issue is up to the Alaskans.

          1. WB, I give you credit, you keep trying to educate these MooooooooRooooons, but to no avail. they are content to be ignorant and misinformed. You nor anyone else can penetrate their armor. Facts only confuse them momentarily.

    50. All I know is regardless of whatever reason no animal should be hunted while they’re in their dens or gassed or hibernating. There should be a limit and that is just a coward and a piece of crap for anyone or to do.

    51. You people go back to sleep. All this bill does is reverse a federal take over of Alaskan lands from the Alaskan people. Go live you pathetic lives eating veggies and leave the business of Alaska to its people.

    52. I hope all the people who are so upset about killing baby bears and baby wolves are more upset about the killing of human babies through abortion! Which is worse??? Where is the outrage for those killings?

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