Urge Your Representative Vote Yes on H.J. 69, Overturning Harmful Alaska Regulation

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U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- Safari Club International (SCI) encourages all sportsmen and women to contact your U.S. Representative today and voice your support for House Joint Resolution 69.

If approved, H.J. Res. 69 will allow Congress to reverse a final rule, adopted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), that prohibits and restricts legal forms of hunting on National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska.

This final FWS rule contradicts the Alaska Department of Fish and Game’s constitutional mandate to manage the state’s wildlife resources for sustained yield, which is affirmed in the Alaska Statehood Act, the Alaska National Interests Land Conservation Act, and the National Wildlife Refuge System Improvement Act. In short, the FWS regulation that H.J. Res. 69 will nullify is one that interferes with the State of Alaska’s ability to provide adequate wildlife for the state’s hunters.

With your help, H.J. Res. 69 will give Congress the opportunity to reverse this harmful FWS regulation adopted during the last months of the Obama Administration. It is imperative that you contact your Representative today and urge him/her to vote Yes on H.J. Res. 69. You must act NOW, as this Resolution is anticipated to be voted on the House floor tomorrow Thursday, February 16.

SCI, along with 26 other hunter conservation groups, signed a letter supporting H.J. Res. 69 (previously identified as H.J. Res. 49), which has been sent to House Speaker Paul Ryan and House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy. That letter provides additional details about the FWS regulation and about H.J. Res. 69.

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Holly

I hope all the people who are so upset about killing baby bears and baby wolves are more upset about the killing of human babies through abortion! Which is worse??? Where is the outrage for those killings?

TS

Apparently YOU have all the outrage, but not a bit for children who are actually here. They can suffer all they want because they are poor, black, homeless or disadvantaged in some way, but you can be self-righteous and above others by proclaiming YOUR disapproval of abortion. If you don’t like abortion, don’t effing have one you sanctimonious bit&h.

Wild Bill

@ThumbSucker, “…children who are actually here…” and “They can suffer…because they are poor, black, homeless…” Really, do you actually know some? I don’t believe you do. If you do it would not be difficult for you to do something for them. You are just a name caller. Poisoned mind, and poison tongue.

TS

Old Useless Bill. I know plenty, and who says I don’t do anything for them?

Wild Bill

Well, Thumb Suck, If you do something for poor homeless children, then it should not be too hard to name them. So name them!

ray

From what you say I have to believe that you must spend a lot of time helping these poor unfortunates that you speak of. Do you do so on your $ or mine, me I’m sick of these freeloaders and their defenders, like you. It is sick people like you that have created the freeloaders. I have a dilemma with abortion, on one hand I want to get rid of it, then on the other hand I love it because most of the people having them are future morons and Demon-Craps like you.

Wild Bill

, At this very moment, Thought Struggle, is calling someone that he knows to help him come up with some children’s names. Well, there is Jane, Sally, and little Tyron, Jr…

Fred

Go suck another part of your body that’s about the same size as your thumb, @sshole. If you’d stop sleeping around and encouraging so many women to do the same when they’re not ready or in a position to have children, there wouldn’t be so much abortion (esp as birth control, since lots of women have had several). The unborn child is a human being, ALSO, not that you would care about that… but enabling sexual irresponsibility, adultery, and callousness in general by encouraging women to destroy their own children is nothing to be proud of, @sswipe. As for calling… Read more »

Judy Beasley

All life is important. It’s easy to kill when it’s not your neck or your families neck in the noose…

MJ

Save this for it’s proper forum. This poor communication is the reason people struggle to come together over a single issue.

TMS

There is outrage for abortions. And there is also outrage for killing animals. Some people have outrage for both, among other disgusting issues human beings do.

Susan Squires

Killing a baby is just wrong Shame on humans.o

CarolCeS

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Jackie Bottenfield

Normally I don’t read post on blogs, but I wish to say that this write-up very forced me to try and do it! Your writing style has been surprised me. Thanks, quite nice article.

Marie

Very entertaining reading the exchanges between Miz Sharon of England n’ ol’Wild Bill..hope to read more of such…

Duane Lovell

What Trump signed the HJR69 needs to be explained because he has lost a lot of votes including mine and all the people around me.; For him to do this he has no heart but it will hurt him in votes for sure

Just me

All that is happening is that the Federal Government is repealing unnecessary regulations and allowing the state of Alaska to manage it’s own wildlife resources. Alaska has PREMIER Fish & Game Management professionals who need no help from guys and girls in suits in the DC swamp. For those of you who are upset about all this, go to the Alaska Fish & Game website and read all the true facts about hunting in Alaska. Most of you will not understand and lose interest after reading for just a few minutes; because most of what you will read is about… Read more »

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Tim

While this is an old thread, the bill was signed into law and the anti-hunters are having a field day saying it is now allowable to hunt sows/cubs in their dens while hibernating. I doubt it is, but is this true? Yes, the fake news media lies, but a confirmation would help.

William

Alaska has laws on their books that prohibit the hunting of cubs and hibernating wolves, coyote, and bears. They are to hunt specific harmful predatory animals during specific times of year when they become dangerous.

The Federal Law was overreaching and was not even a law, since the Fed. Fish and Wildlife agency do not have the rights to wright law.

But, in answer to your question, nobody is allowed to hunt hibernating or young animals per Alaska law.

Fuck yall
JB

Not sure how many on here have been to or are in Alaska, but being a Florida boy up there and being familiar with hunting and fishing regulations growing up, I was blown away by how protective that state is of everything… They seriously realize that wildlife needs protecting and they impliment so many rules and regs that putting the stuartship back in the staes hands and out of the Fed`s is a sane and just thng. Period… If the O administration pushed this thru late night you have to wonder.

Macten

You people go back to sleep. All this bill does is reverse a federal take over of Alaskan lands from the Alaskan people. Go live you pathetic lives eating veggies and leave the business of Alaska to its people.

Robert Jaco

All I know is regardless of whatever reason no animal should be hunted while they’re in their dens or gassed or hibernating. There should be a limit and that is just a coward and a piece of crap for anyone or to do.

Dany petelle

Yup it’s now official… Two days ago on Tuesday April 4th 2017 Trump just overturned a rule that protected our majestic wildlife in Alaska This now legally opens the door to the most heinous and disgusting anti-wildlife and pro trophy hunting techniques. It is vile and cruel. The majority of hunters are even against these tactics because it is so unethical. By overturning this protection rule, trump has now made it legally ok for dens to be gassed to kill wolf pups and entire families. Bears to be shot while hibernating. Hunters to lure animals with food and then shoot… Read more »

Dany petelle

* Correction: Trump signed and rolled back the regulations on Monday, April 3rd…

Wild Bill

The repeal of the federal regulation only allows federally qualified subsistence hunters to hunt anything in its den. I don’t think that includes anyone outside of the Inuit. And of those Inuit subsistence hunters, few have done the paperwork to become “federally qualified”. The repeal of this federal regulation does return control of hunting to the state of Alaska. Now, the issue is up to the Alaskans.

ray

WB, I give you credit, you keep trying to educate these MooooooooRooooons, but to no avail. they are content to be ignorant and misinformed. You nor anyone else can penetrate their armor. Facts only confuse them momentarily.

Wild Bill

, I know in my heart that you are right,,, but everyone should have a hobby!

MJ

Well said.

Ray VonGunten

If I understand this correctly, it turns control back over to the State of Alaska where it belongs, not as the late night vote and signing by the Obama administration to impose Federal law over Alaskan rights to control its land and wildlife, and returning rights to QUALIFIED SUBSISTANCE HUNTERS that had been granted by the State of Alaska.

Daniela Bress

Killing bear cubs and wolf pups and their mothers has NOTHING to do with hunting – it’s nothing but the murder of babies and tells a lot about the progressive decline of the human society’s values. I’m deeply ashamed to be part of such a low and worthless species that obeys to “laws” promoting greed, enviousness, megalomania, recklessness, destruction and selfishness and condemning or even punishing compassion, decency, commitment for the weaker, protection of vital resources, wildlife and environment and all other true values without a dollar sign on it!

Adrian Appley

Wild Bill – I have read your comments and come to the obvious conclusion you are an ignorant IDIOT that could never understand anything about anything. Your type make me sick.

Wild Bill

Well, Adrian, that is pretty broad. I am sure that my “type” probably does make you sick. Some people can not be hard working, self sacrificing, truth seeking defenders of their country, nation, and constitution. They just do not have it in them. And, therefore, they are sickened by jealousy and self loathing by people that have spent their lives in such pursuits. By the way, are you in England? Are you friends with Sharon?

Adrian Appley

Wild Bill – yes, I do live in England where many of us abhor the type of hobby you and all the rest of the sick sadists enjoy. I cannot understand what you are saying when you talk about “sickened by jealousy and self loathing” What do you mean ?

Sharon Hopkins

to all the neanderthals on this site who enjoy slaughtering wildlife for fun, i wish a trillion plagues, poxes, zika viruses etc. etc. on you all. you may call yourselves conservationists but you certainly put the “con” into conservation. you people are a cancer in the world, unfortunately your evil tentacles reach far and wide. i hope you reap that what you all sew and that on your deathbeds the spirits of all the creatures you slaughtered for fun, will haunt you all into perpetuity.

Raymond Miller

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. I love to see these moorons go nuts, they are a riot, funny as hell. But very dangerous, because they have no morality, Kill a baby, OK, hunt oh no that’s bad. Fleeking nut jobs really show their self when they can’t/don’t win. It’s moorons like SH who are still crying over Trump winning the election, funny but, DANGEROUS, if they can’t have their way.

Wild Bill

, Sharon really is not a moron, she is… English!

Wild Bill

@olwoman Hopkins, Because you live in England, you are not aware of the Lacy Act and the Robertson-Pittman Act. These two acts of Congress were insisted on by American Sportsman. The Lacy Act outlawed market hunting (i.e. the taking of all the animal species in large amounts for purpose of selling to restaurants, canneries, foreign buyers.) The Robertson-Pittman Act placed a ten percent tax on all firearms and ammunition sold in the United States (note: now it is eleven percent and applies to archery as well). All of the Robertson-Pittman tax monies are supposed to go for buying and improving… Read more »

Brian DuBridge

Such a bunch of ignorance in the comments. Very few that I’ve seen comment have researched what’s happening or what Alaska’s laws are in regards to the hunting practices in question. The natives – Indians or Eskimos if you will – used to hunt bear and such with spears and bows. Before guns were readily available, to get the meat and hide of bears they sometimes would kill a hibernating bear as a safe way to harvest it. There was a multi year study done from 1978 to 1987 which gathered hunting practices from all the clusters of villages inhabited… Read more »

Wild Bill

, Good commentary. Thanks for the facts.

Stephen

Thank You Brian. Great. Information. Excellent Communication!

JimLin

Brian, Thank you for the links. I actually learned quite a bit more about the hunting, subsistence uses and cultural regard Native Alaskans have for bears. I’d suspected that Native Alaskans inherently had more respect & reason for their ‘kills’ than trophy hunters. However, you and many others are arguing two separate issues here. There will NEVER be any end or compromise to the ideological/ethical differences between hunters and non-hunters. That’s a separate issue from this topic, which is that this resolution seeks to introduce inhumane/unethical alleged ‘predator control’ practices into federally-funded National Wildlife Refuges where previously they were prohibited.… Read more »

Brian DuBridge

Jim, It matters not whether the rules applied to the wildlife refuge, the Alaskan laws cover it, and relating to one of your earlier comments, hunting and fishing are officially recognized as important activities in Federal Wildlife Refuges. The Department of Interior rule, which by the way only went into affect late last year, has not overturned any significant activity because it was mostly redundant. The practices are already outlawed by the State, and the State would always seek to control the population of game animals through hunting rather than spend the money and effort to partake in special predator… Read more »

Sharon Hopkins

As a ” moron” who hates hunting or the killing of any creature for fun, I do not eat meat or wear leather. That is my contribution to the planet. As for your ridiculous comments that hunters actually love nature and protect it ? Is this some kind of joke? So, you go out with your gun, see a bear or a wolf, take aim and kill it and you call that “protect”? Has it never occurred to you that that animal you snuffed the life out of, probably had cubs to feed and they will now starve to death… Read more »

Wild Bill

@olwoman, Really, that is all that you are able to contribute? My sympathies. Yes, hunters do love wild life and work to protect the entire species. If there are too few, we do not hunt. If too many, limits are increased. Every individual of every species is going to die anyway, so the survival of the species is important. That a very few of any species is sacrificed to protect the whole species is unimportant. Yes, during the hunting season, we are required to check to see if the female game animal still has young with it (e.g. in MN… Read more »

Susan Squires

Republicans don’t get abortions ?

Jill Johnson

GOP claim to be pro-life but guess that only applies to humans! The Republicans believe in saving a fetus over the mother who may have other children at home who are dependent on her. Guess this is the same concept.

The GOP believe in slaughtering and killing animals by any means leaving bear cubs and wolf pups to die a slow death from dehydration and lack of nourishment.

I very rarely expect much positive from this group. Wonder if the GOP brain is set up differently because I cannot begin to conceive how they rationalize their thoughts?

JimLin

Yet another document to be better informed on this entire subject. It’s the original ruling w/all the proposals & adoptions that the new HJR69 has overturned. It’s long, but if you really want to know what you’re talking about or against, it’s here. Read it or skim it. Whatever. https://www.fws.gov/alaska/nwr/pdf/NWRS_Alaska_Refuges_Statewide_FinalRule_FAQs.pdf You’ll note that Native Alaskan tribes were as thoroughly as possible consulted. Taking into account the remoteness and lack of technological communications. As a matter of fact it seems that Natives’ welfare was of major concern to Fish & Wildlife Dept. & the formation of that ruling. Additionally, that ruling… Read more »

JimLin

I realize what I wrote above is long, convoluted and may very well not be read by most. So here it is, (maybe)short & (not so) sweet: The Congressionally-passed bill that will most likely shortly be signed by Trump is nothing more than a transparent desire to extend Alaska’s statewide inhumane/cruel/or unethical methods, which they euphemistically call “predator control”…to extend these methods into Federally Funded National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska. They claim that being unable to utilize these methods severely inhibits natives from acquiring needed subsistence. This is bull. Natives (and from what I gather ONLY natives) have been and… Read more »

Loni Miller

This is great information- thanks for the links. I hate when people conflate two different issues and muddy the waters with shit that is not pertinent to the issue at hand. Great job staying on point and while you have a clear opinion at least there are facts and links for people to verify or come with their own opinion.

Sharon Hopkins

I believe the gormless, brain-dead Sarah Palin lives in Alaska and she indulges in killing wolves and bears from her own plane so she probably supports this so-called form of “management”. She hates the environment so any wild creature is fair game to this moronic woman. She’s a joke, she can’t even speak properly. Killing bears and wolves from planes is the most disgusting and barbaric form of slaughter – why? To see a beautiful animal’s life snuffed out because people have the !right! to do it is outrageous. There are even wildlife contests where coyotes and other creatures are… Read more »

Wild Bill

@SH, I believe the gormless, brain dead Sharon Hopkins lives in England and has no standing to complain in the affairs of Americans. She hates her environment (England), and human beings. SH is a joke and can not even speak English properly. Bla bla bla! Oh, yeah I been to Iraq, and if hunting offends your delicate sensibilities you should see close support air ops!

Sharon Hopkins

So, Wild Bill Hickok has been to Iraq. Pity he didn’t stay there. I happen to love my country, it’s just that I have to live on the same planet as people like WB. It seems us with “delicate sensibilities” can never get through to the WBs and his ilk as his sort are on another planet. Why can’t you cherish and enjoy wildlife instead of wanting to destroy it? People like WB are ignorant cowards who think that by eliminating another species is fun and macho with their big guns and other forms of extermination. These people are inadequates… Read more »

Wild Bill

@olwoman H, Wild Bill Hickok was never in Iraq. The typical Englishman is so poor and so used to being ruled over that all they can do is talk or write. Some don’t even do that well (inadequate is an adjective or an adverb not a noun). Here at the ranch we have set aside an untouched seventeen acre corridor for the deer and other wildlife to get down to the river unmolested, except by other wildlife. We have eleven rescue dogs, 12 rescue horses, and donate to twenty-seven animal charities. What has Sharon done for wild life, ever? It… Read more »

Raymond Miller

Whoa, WB, I was commenting on Sharron B., not you. I too have a problem with the holier than thou lefties. It is amazing that SB, if she does live in GB, would have so much to say about a subject she obviously knows little if anything about. particularly in a country where only the a select few can hunt.

Wild Bill

Miller, Oh, my apologies, sir. I was in error.

ray

Yes you would eradicate anyone who disagrees with you or does something that you don’t approve of. Fortunately there are more of us who LOVE our CONSTITUTION and the FREEDOM it provides that we out number you trolls. If you don’t like America and Americans then maybe you should hop on a rocket and move to Mars. You are one of the reasons that I am not totally opposed to abortion, it’s just to bad you mommy didn’t believe in it.

Wild Bill

, Actually ray, I spent my entire life defending my fellow Americans and our Constitution. I would not eradicate any of them. Although, I do object to an English person trying to impose their all knowing will upon Americans. Just like our forefathers.

EZ

Ray, your last sentence is funny! Thanks for the chuckle! BTW it’s “too” in this case – sorry, I can never get the teacher out of me!! LOL

Brian DuBridge

Actually, hunters love nature and DO protect it, much more than naive little twits like you who know nothing about how nature actually works. We cherish and enjoy wildlife and ensure that species are not eliminated, and prevent starvation and disease through our practices of managed harvest. We are often highly amused by the ineffectual rantings of ignorant twitty girls like you, though, knowing how much turmoil and frustration imagined offenses are generating for you in attempting to interfere with our healthy practices. Too bad England is such an overpopulated socialist State. Otherwise more of you would get a chance… Read more »

Whitefish

Brian, do you know what a little POS fascist you sound like? Step inside an echo chamber if you don’t know yet. I’m all for hunting but can’t stand the self-righteous chest pounding fascists that have to belittle people having any opinion alternative to your’s. Grow-up if there’s time.

Sharon Hopkins

Can anyone explain to me why is it so thrilling to snuff out the life of a sentient creature that has never impinged on anyone. Wild animals are trying to survive and yet people enjoy killing bears, wolves and other animals from planes, they trap and poison them and other vile methods under the guise of “management”. The human race is increasing at an alarming rate stealing habitats from animals that have lived in the wild for centuries. It’s the human race that needs to be managed and controlled as we are the pest species. People who enjoy murdering a… Read more »

ray

I ask the same thing every time you libturds murder an innocent baby, and sell the parts. I hunt and if you don’t like it that’s TS. I don’t kill baby animals or baby humans, unlike you, you jackwad.

Chip G

I grew up hunting and fishing my entire life. I was deer hunting by the time I was 9. I have no issue with ethical hunting of non protected species for food. but if you are willing to shoot a hibernating bear you aren’t a hunter. You are a Coward. You also make it very very easy for the non hunters to lump us all together.

Wild Bill

@Chip G, I believe that only the native American subsistence hunters of Alaska (whom ever they might be) will be authorized to hunt bears and wolves in their dens. You or I can not. Think about that.

Sharon Hopkins

Wild Bill you said “Are you not aware that only native subsidence hunters will be able to hunt the cubs and pups in their dens? ” Now why on earth would any sane or compassionate person would want to do that? What reason? I haven’t seen the word “compassion” in this article but I’m not surprised with people like you airing your disgusting and cruel remarks about our wonderful wildlife. I may live in England but I love ALL wildlife, wherever it is and will fight to protect it. You also said “Are you not aware of the many pleasant… Read more »

Wild Bill

@SH, I believe the actual words of the statute are “subsistence uses by federally qualified subsistence users”. Those are the native Inuit peoples. You racist bigot, how do you dare criticize a native people’s way of life! Don’t you think that the Inuit have a right to exist? Shame on you. When you leave this earth, the Inuit will dance.

JimLin

I think ethics and civility have been completely obliterated by both this topic and the ensuing discussions(?) Neither hunter or non-hunter will ever sway each other’s mindsets. It’s one of those never-ending, futile ideological battles. This HJR69 is now a closed issue as far as urging its passing or defeating it. It’s done. For now anyway. But as Dave suggested: [QUOTE] “If you care about this, contact someone from the lists located on this page: http://akleg.gov/ You can advocate for Alaska’s predators with the people who actually run the show. “[END QUOTE] For those of you who feel that your… Read more »

ProChoice

You cowards should at least kill the pups, or cubs, while theyre still in their mother’s wombs. Everyone knows it’s ok to end a life BEFORE it’s born, not after!!

Grim

We do that, too!

Savannah Smiles

All of you “people” who support hunting for sport in the slightest should be hunted down and shot yourselves. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. OF. YOU. Since before our egotistical species created “god” our planet has thrived in a balance. Wolves and bears aren’t greedy and selfish. They know not to take too much because if they did, they wouldn’t have any food! All this bill does is allow selfish, greedy, egotistical bastards to feel powerful and like “god” for deciding the fate of our neighbors. Nature has a way of keeping itself balanced, even when it comes to our species. Why… Read more »

Roy D.

Hopefully you have not and will not procreate.

Grim

Where is that commandment “though shall not mutder”?

Grim

Hang in there Savannah, here comes nurse Ratched with your medication. By the way, just where is that commandment? Your vague references will be clarified for you after your medication kicks in.

Wild Bill

Wow, SS has made the most illiterate, non sequitur, and self hating comment that I have ever read. SS does not know that murder only applies to humans. Does not know that all predators kill for the fun of it (even a cute little fox in the hen house will kill chicken that it can get a hold of.) Does not know that Christianity brought the concept of mercy to the world in an institutional way. Does not believe in God, but claims to check scripture. Hates her own species, but refuses to do away with her own self. Claims… Read more »

Sharon Hopkins

Well said Savannah !!! At last someone who speaks the truth. Yes, there are far too many of us but the words “population control” are never addressed as it doesn’t get votes. Animals, especially wildlife, are scapegoats for the destruction of the planet by humans and so-called “wildlife services” target predator species like wolves and bears. They want to eliminate these wonderful creatures because the hunters want to kill moose and bison that wild animals predate on. Also, there’s money involved in buying licences to kill wild animals. Trigger happy, gun-toting animal abusers and murderers are always quick to sign… Read more »

Rob j

You hit the nail on the head with that one we are the most dangerous species and we mow down whatever other species that gets in our way. It’s sad really and the more overpopulated we become the last there will be room for other species. And then they think they have the right to do it because some deity they make up up in the heavens gives them the right to do it

Wild Bill

j, SS and SH, The day dedicated to you and those who think like you is tomorrow. Could you all not have waited until then?

Wild Bill

@olwoman Hopkins Are you not aware that only native subsidence hunters will be able to hunt the cubs and pups in their dens? Are you not aware that most animal species are protected by hunting seasons? Absent hunting seasons, animals could be hunted every day all year long. Are you not aware that the American bison was nearly made extinct by the an act of nature called brucellosis that is carried by biting flies? Are you not aware that you are in the UK and have no standing to complain in the US? Are you not aware of the many… Read more »

Martin Hall-Kenny

1) HJR69 actually annuls the protection afforded to these animals and opens the door to unrestricted predator hunting on wildlife preserves. Subsistence hunters WERE the only ones able to do this but no longer. 2) Predator species are NOT protected by seasonal hunting hence the issue regarding hibernating and pregnant animals. 3) Predator animals WILL be hunted throughout the year where, before this bill, only subsistence huntyers were permitted and only then, when properly authorised. 4) The American Bison was brought to the point of extinction due to habitat loss, non-indigenous hunting for skins and tallow and to destroy the… Read more »

Dave

So H.J. Res 69 overturns a rule that has been in place since August of 2016, less than a year. This isn’t about animals, its about states rights. Frankly if you are killing bears or wolves or anything from aircraft or while they are sleeping or when they are rearing cubs or pups YOU SUCK. But Alaska apparently has the right to manage it’s own natural resources. If you care about this, contact someone from the lists located on this page: http://akleg.gov/ You can advocate for Alaska’s predators with the people who actually run the show. I assume it will… Read more »

JimLin

The point is apparently moot. As of yesterday the Bill was passed by the Senate and awaits Trump’s pen. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-approves-alaska-predator-hunting-wildlife-refuges-us_us_58d1c633e4b0b22b0d17ffb7 [QUOTE FROM THE ABOVE ARTICLE] The Republican-sponsored legislation would undo the Alaska National Wildlife Refuges Rule, ultimately opening the door for the state to resume aggressive predator control tactics, including shooting bears and wolves from airplanes and killing cubs and pups in their dens. The Senate passed the resolution by a 52-47 party-line vote. It was adopted last month by the House, so the measure now heads to Trump’s desk for final approval.[END QUOTE] Sanity – on so many levels… Read more »

JimLin

Sorry about the triple-posting. For some reason it didn’t post the first couple times I tried, and the third time I tried it kinda went kaflooey. Guess I thought they’d closed this topic for comments because for all intents and purposes, HJR69 is a done deal so it doesn’t much matter how loud anyone screams to affect any legislation at this point.

JimLin

The point of discussion is apparently moot. The Bill has passed the Senate and awaits Trump’s pen: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-approves-alaska-predator-hunting-wildlife-refuges-us_us_58d1c633e4b0b22b0d17ffb7 [Quote from the above referenced article] “The Republican-sponsored legislation would undo the Alaska National Wildlife Refuges Rule, ultimately opening the door for the state to resume aggressive predator control tactics, including shooting bears and wolves from airplanes and KILLING PUBS AND CUBS IN THEIR DENS. The Senate passed the resolution by a 52-47 party-line vote. It was adopted last month by the House, so the measure now heads to Trump’s desk for final approval.”[End Quote] Sanity – on so many fronts these… Read more »

Raymond Miller

This is just totally amazing, I’ll lay ten to one odds, that these whining, bleeding hearts have no trouble with funding Planned Parenthood. No matter what anyone says they just don’t pay any attention to facts and have no logic in their arguments. No one in their right mind would kill a baby anything, and no one in their right mind would kill a human baby and sell the parts. But the whack jobs think that is perfectly OK and if you can make a profit from selling the parts that’s even better. Yet we hunters are the bad guys,… Read more »

JimLin

The point is apparently moot. As of yesterday the Bill was passed by the Senate and awaits Trump’s pen. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-approves-alaska-predator-hunting-wildlife-refuges-us_us_58d1c633e4b0b22b0d17ffb7 [QUOTE FROM THE ABOVE ARTICLE] The Republican-sponsored legislation would undo the Alaska National Wildlife Refuges Rule, ultimately opening the door for the state to resume aggressive predator control tactics, including shooting bears and wolves from airplanes and killing cubs and pups in their dens. The Senate passed the resolution by a 52-47 party-line vote. It was adopted last month by the House, so the measure now heads to Trump’s desk for final approval.[END QUOTE] Sanity – on so many levels… Read more »

JimLin

Remember, if you really want to be heard and really want to make an impact, everyone should have their congresspersons & senators either on speed dial & call them or have their email addresses and write them. Too many people chicken out when asked for their names & addresses. It’s not an invasion of privacy. You’re not put on any ‘enemies list’. You’re just exercising your rights as an American citizen who (hopefully) votes. If enough average citizens create a large enough presence w/either phone calls or emails, there’s a greater chance of being heard & seen over the paid… Read more »

Ricky

H.J.R. 69 is disgusting and if you support it you should be ashamed.

Curious hunter

I’m dead set against this and I am a hunter

JimLin

Regrettably, Margie, I’ve never really though of myself as a particularly patient person. But thanks for that anyway. I do think it’s important to ’try’ and be patient enough to (again) ‘try’ and listen to both sides, no matter how fiercely we may feel about each other’s opinions and arguments. But if those opinions or arguments don’t come from a place of at least some knowledge, or it becomes obvious someone doesn’t really know what they’re talking about or they’re arguing with “alternative truths”, then IMO that’s the end of the conversation. It degrades to a yelling match and an… Read more »

Margie Burgardt

Jim Lim, you must be the most patient person in America to take the time to reference the facts of this horrible bill. I have submitted no to me state senators, but, even amidst your sanity, I have been laughing out lout throughout this thread!

Raymond Miller

It has been a long time since I’ve seen such a bunch of ill informed, totally ignorant people in one place. You aunties must have very hard time breathing with your head up your butt. Game laws are managed for the benefit of all of the species and it works just fine when we keep you A-holes out. ALL animals benefit from sound game management. If this Fed take over was enacted by Doggie-Doo before he was ejected from the White House, it was done to reek havoc on the Alaskan people, and for no other reason. As usual you… Read more »

JimLin

Raymond Miller, you said the existing Fed.Resolution “was enacted…to reek havoc on the Alaskan people….”. Can you explain (to someone who’s quite ready & able to inhale) how those existing regs. would have negatively impacted the Alaskan people? Especially since there seemed enough caveats that would could have enabled them to continue their established hunting practices. Specifically, I’d be referring to article (3) in that Resolution which seems to be the main bone of contention here: “(3)This rule prohibits the following practices for the taking of wildlife on Alaska National Wildlife refuges (except for subsistence uses by federally qualified subsistence… Read more »

Britt

You People are SICK.

Judianna

This DESPICABLE Bill would not only allow killing of bears, Bear cubs, wolves and wolf pups in and around their dens, but it would allow trophy hunters to use aircraft to scout and chase grizzly bears and then land and shoot them. THIS IS THE LOWEST OF LOWS! THIS IS NOT WILDLIFE “MANAGEMENT” HUNTING – THIS IS WILDLIFE SLAUGHTER, IT IS WILDLIFE TERRORISM! If this bill does go through there are a growing number of people that will be canceling their vacations and WILL BOYCOTT Alaska and Alaska Products you can be SURE OF THAT!

Dan

I am a loyal Republican and agree with almost everything they stand for. However, I most certainly do not agree with their imbedded positions regarding animals and the environment. The fail safe position is always state’s rights and individual rights over the rights of defenseless creatures who we are morally responsible to husband. Hunting would be a much more interesting sport if animals could carry guns and shoot back. In my state the DNR wants to disallow farmers from haying ditches. With most farms now planting nothing but corn and soybeans this is virtually the only habitat available for birds… Read more »

Jane Anderson

First of all, I’m from the South and know about hunting although I’m not a hunter. Killing for sport and especially killing animals in their dens as well as killing baby wolves is wrong on so many levels. That is not hunting; it’s slaughter. Using high-powered atv’s, helicopters, and trucks is not hunting. If the only way these people can “hunt” is this, they are not hunters but in my opinion, ignorant killers. Animals for food is one thing, slaughtering for fun is sick.

JimLin

A consistent thread woven through nearly all these discussions seems to be not just a difference of opinion, but more of a basic lack of specific knowledge of EXACTLY what this the proposed House Joint Resolution 69 will do and what it will overturn. Although links have been posted to it, I admit those links do not clearly state the Resolution’s specifics regarding what many consider inhumane & unethical hunting practices. Basically, it will overturn the existing resolution passed during the last few months of the previous administration. That existing ruling is called: “Non-Subsistence Take of Wildlife, and Public Participation… Read more »

D Zarazinski

I read the Alaska Hunting Regulations and killing animals from a helicopter is not allowed in Alaska already. So… there’s another spin to the story. Why did the Feds outlaw it if Alaska doesn’t allow it anyway. I’m confused.

JimLin

My take on the Federal “Non-Subsistance…… Resolution”, that was just overturned by The House, is that YES it acknowledged that the killing of WOLVES from aircraft was, indeed, already prohibited. However, it also added BEARS to that prohibition. The new HRJ69 not only overturned this resolution but also overturned the existing Alaska Hunting Regulations prohibition on killing wolves as well. IOW, now, according to HRJ69, both wolves AND bears can be shot from a helicopter. I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before elk, moose & who knows what are also added to that list. IMO, not only is… Read more »

Carla Behrens

YES!

Wild Bill

Who are these “…federally qualified subsistence users…” that are allowed to harvest bear sows and their cubs and wolves in there dens, but the rest of us can not? What happened to equal protection under the law. Some unnamed “federally qualified subsistence users” can, but I can not! This House Joint Resolution 69 is clearly more objectionable the more I find out about it!

JimLin

I think you broke the code Wild Bill. The more the citizens of this country are kept in the dark/kept ignorant of the real truth (about everything), the more we can be manipulated and fooled by the ‘powers that be’. (More specifically by the REAL powers behind the throne including those w/personal agendas & the money men & women.) They’ve historically banked on the gullibility and laziness of the people not to pursue research, ask questions and hold their reps’ feet to the fire. Sorry, didn’t want to drift off into politics. But this is a political issue after all.… Read more »

Bob

I emailed my senator to vote No. Wildlife experts are against this but special interest groups have the money and power for it to pass. When given a choice between an emaciated cow elk or a trophy bull, which one will a hunter shoot and which one will a pack of wolves take down? By taking the sick, injured, and weak prey, wolves strengthen the prey species. I’m a hunter and talked to other hunters who oppose this extermination of wolves and bears. This is about money, more prey animals = more paying hunters. If it is about state rights… Read more »

Animal lover

Keep in mind only 6 percent of our population participates in that sick demented sport called hunting. I get get so tired of these people who call themselves sportsmen talking about killing defenseless animals. And then having their repulsive pictures taken with the dead animal whose only defense is to run And most of the time they are baited. This passage speaks badly of the Rep House of Reps . And I am a Rep There is something wrong with humans who love to go our and kill something.that cannot defend itself You cannot justify that. Hey they need you… Read more »

elsie

there is a story of a Samurai warrior and a monk……the samurai goes to the monk and says” can you teach me about heaven and hell” the monk replies “me teach you a big, stupid, dirty Samurai” at this the samurai picks up his sword and is about cut the monks head off and then the monk looks at him as says “that is hell” the samurai puts down his sword and thinks for a moment and then the monk says “that is heaven”
Please stop the slaughter for wildlife, because when you kill them you are killing yourself

Justthefactsmam

I certainly respect your choice to not hunt or eat meat. Humans are omnivores and have been hunting since recorded history. Further, humans have domesticated animals for food. I do not think there is a huge warehouse of bad karma that has been filled due to humans hunting for food over the past million years. Where is that bad karma warehouse for other top level predators that kill to eat?

Whitefish

Hard to believe that such a top-shelf website of conservation minded hunters would support such a despicable bill that would legalize the unsportsmanlike behavior normally ascribed to poachers, the lowest of the low life that is a threat to every good minded hunter. The editors should really re-think their momentary lapse of reason. And every good minded conservation minded hunter should be outraged that this back door bill has even reached the stage it has and should contact their senator and register their outrage.

Bob

Well said

Wild Bill

@Troll Stool, I don’t see that you have any standing to complain because you never go out into nature. You think nature consists of the Robbins that hop around in your parents’ yard.

TS

The bird is a robin, you incontinent #sshat.
FYI, I have spent more time in the great outdoors than your entire inbred tribe.

Wild Bill

@Troll Slime, My tribe is the United States Army, and I doubt that you have spent more time in the great outdoors than us. We are not very inbred, though. We leave children where ever we go. Ask your mom. Finally, thank you for the spelling lesson, so… what is a #sshat?

Justthefactsmam

I think TS’s last name is Robbins, so you were right about hid backyard.

TS

Old Bill. No, your tribe is hootch drinking hillbillies who have children with each other, and you are a long way from the army, sunshine. Your hero card is expired, so shut up about it. You can ask about #sshats at your next AA meeting.

Wild Bill

@Too Snockered, I would not put a thief in my glass to steal my brains, too many critters depend upon me, but apparently you would. I don’t know how this stuff springs forth in your mind. It must be alcohol or drugs. And as far as your demand for me to shut up, well… apparently that is as tolerant as the liberal/progressive/socialists get.

TS

Alright, you pathetic gutless [email protected] TS has joined this thread. I classify trappers as the lowest form of humans. If any of you cowardly, smegma eating Neanderthals had any balls at all, you would find a new pastime. If the only way you can get your jollies is to shoot sleeping animals then you are beyond redemption. You are what is wrong with the world and why the aliens will never contact us.

Brad Smith

TS: Of course, they are gutless. That’s why they attack animals, the defenseless.. Everyone knows that hunters are cowards…

Dany Petelle

NO!!! They are putting a spin on this. This is not about hunting. Hunters are against this because it’s so barbaric and cruel! It will allow whole families and wolf pups to be gassed in their dens. Bears shot while hibernating. Trapping bears with steel-jawed leg holds and snares. Allowing hunters to lure animals with food and then shooting them and point blank range, and on and on. Do your own research. This bill will allow this to happen on 16 National Wildlife REFUGES? covering 76 million acres all in Alaska. This Bill has passed Congress and now goes to… Read more »

robert j

can someone tell me strait up if hunters are really going to go into wolf and bear dens and kill baby animals.

Adam

I have no skin in this game – I’m not a resident of Alaska, nor do I have plans to go hunting there. It seems there are two separate but intertwined issues here – the federal government usurping the authority of the state to manage conservation within its borders, and distaste for certain hunting tactics that may become legal should control revert to the state. Currently, the Left Coast Liberals and Flyover State Conservatives from the lower 48 each have more of a say in this matter than the residents of Alaska do. Whatever you think of current hunting laws… Read more »

Cynthia reznick

A 2016 poll of Alaskans opposed this bill. Yet it was introduced anyway. Inhumane practices caused the overkilling of native alaskan predators. This resolution allows The use of Cruel tactics. Going into dens and killing wolf pups, chasing down bears from the air, that type of hunting. Ethical hunters do not hunt this way, most are actually very good stewards of the land.This resolution allows hunting in REFUGE’s and is opposed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Trophy hunters who are not hungry Akaskans will be the one’s that benefit. They have enough food already and enough money to… Read more »

Adam

If a majority of Alaskans truly oppose it, then the laws can be changed a state level to outlaw the specific hunting practices in question. It doesn’t need to be decided federally, nor should it be.

rob j

Adam and Cynthia, i have read all these comments and i think if they could just change the inhumane hunting practices and make them illegal that people would not be so upset and i would not care so much if the state had control again. but Young may think differently. i understand sometimes you need to control the population but not just so hunters can kill more moose. there has to be balance. but have some damn compassion also.

cynthia reznick

The majority of Alaskans oppose this. This bill is for thrill-seekers and trophy hunters. Just say it like it is and quit hiding behind the people of Alaska! Your a bunch of jerks!

Kelly Spencer

Trump voter. Conservative. That aside, this is disgusting practice. Only a pussy would have to hunt this way.