Citizen Shoots Suspect Fleeing Scene Of Accident, But What Was the Threat?

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USA –-(Ammoland.com)- CBS TV 46 and The Covington News reported 06-24-2017 in Covington, Georgia, officers responded to the area of Church Street and Monticello Street in an attempt to locate a white SUV that was reported to be driving recklessly.

A 46 year old citizen was nearby in a truck when he saw and followed the 33 year old erratic driver. He even tried to block him in with his truck. The 46 year old then fired a handgun at the driver, striking him in the neck. He then drove away from the area.

Before Officers could catch up with the SUV, it crashed into another vehicle at Pace Street and Highway 278. After the crash, the 33 year old erratic driver of the SUV got out of his vehicle and ran from the crash scene.

The now wounded erratic driver was captured by responding Officers and is being treated at Grady Memorial Hospital. He was listed in critical condition.

The 46 year old accused shooter who fled the scene has also been arrested. He is charged with aggravated assault and is being held in the Newton County Detention Center.

Update: A Covington Police Department Captain Craig Treadwell said the fleeing 33 year old erratic driver who was shot after running from police, had a warrant out of his arrest.

“He was wanted for obstruction of law enforcement officers,” the Capitan told The Covington News. He also had an active warrant for failure to appear in court. As of Monday morning, he was still in critical condition at Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta.

The 46 year old Covington man accused of shooting the erratic driver was granted bond on $25,000 during a jail hearing by Newton County Magistrate Court Judge Melanie Bell.

Comments:

An erratic driver is chased by a helpful citizen who tries block him in and then shoots at him! The shooter then flees the scene. That shooting apparently causes the erratic driver to crash into another vehicle. So then the wounded erratic driver jumps out and runs away too.

We are all annoyed by unsafe drivers on a daily basis, especially me…but we are not supposed to shoot them for that. I expect his attorney will argue that he presented a danger to others by his driving. He probably did.

I think we need a more specific threat to make that defense work.

Bob Irwin, Las Vegas

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Terry Wright

What is the deal? The person that was shot must have felt his life was in danger. In Oklahoma you cannot shoot someone for being a dumb a$$. Only a police can make the decision to shoot in such a situation. There is no evidence the person shot was a truly a danger. It would be one word against another. I carry a gun as well as most Oklahoma residents. Running some one down to shoot them is not part of the law. You would go to Prison , maybe shot by the person or possibly persons in the vehicle,… Read more »

freewill

the court of public opinion has convicted the shooter without hearing his version…all i read was the police version of the story

M Reyna

Ace. You are so right about the cop excuse

Bill

How can they arrest the man he was enacting a citizens arrest of a dangerous fugative > they should give him an award ! Car stealing is no different from horse stealing so he should have hanged the perp!

gcm

@Bill I don’t know about the state your from, but in mine to make a citizen’s arrest there has to be an officer present before said arrest can be made. I didn’t read anything about a stolen car in the story, but the fact remains the shooter took it upon himself to play cop and shoot somebody for driving bad. It did not say if the shooter had a valid ccl or not, but if he did it will most likely be gone when he goes to court. If the outcome of this story gets reported here by Mr. Irwin… Read more »

Norge

I Don’t hear any Police excuses. They had no time for excuses. The erratic driver was already shot before the Police could make any excuses. The BIG question is, “Why did the shooter make himself the jury, judge, & executioner then flee the scene??? Perhaphs a moment of reflection, which should have come prior to shooting at someone who doesn’t meet his style of driving. If he was following “the Spirit of the Law,” he would have decided to be a good witness & help the innocent driver the fugitive ran in to. This sounds like a classic case of… Read more »

Ace

Use the same excuse the police use for shooting people in the back when running away or an unarmed woman in her pajamas I FEARED For MY LIFE AND WAS SCARED.

voice of resaon

gil,how old are you because my 10 year old grandson is smarter than you.if you draw on the wrong person for a stupid reason you may soon meet thr grim reaper!

Rob

I agree with you. Someone draws on me, one thing is guaranteed, one of us will die and makes no difference to me as to who!
This was stupid and shooter should have been charged with reckless endangerment or attempted murder.
By hitting the guy and the vehicle crashing, some innocent party could have been killed by the out of control vehicle!
This shooter needs to go to prison. He is a menace!

George

Gil is obviously trying to egg on the others in this thread to either agree with his crazy concoction or make others who are 2A advocates appear to be gun crazed lunatics. I agree with the statement made previously, “Don’t feed the Gil.”

Jorge

The best defense tool/weapon in this incident is your brain. If you are sincerely concerned about protecting the safety and lives of others, please use your mind before resorting to using deadly force. The spirit of the law far outweighs obeying the laws because you don’t want to be caught. Use your trigger finger and dial 911, be a good witness, and if you want to be involved, maintain visual contact on the unsafe driver and wait for Law Enforcement to arrive. Prior to this citizen firing his weapon, the unsafe driver was only that. There were no other facts… Read more »

mike DiVito

Dont see this so called Gil Anywhere ? What the hecks goin on guys ???

Wild Bill

, Welcome to the site. Go all the way to the bottom of this thread. I’m not going to tell you his history. I will let you make up your own mind about him as time goes on and you read more of his writings here.

diamondearthday57

Living just 8 miles from this I have a different feeling. The guy wanted to play cop and shot out of a vehicle
ina parking lot that was open for business at a man he did not know and had NO business trying to stop.
Newton Co. will hammer him into dog squeeze. What is all this gil crap you guys sound like russia rrussia russia.
don’t feed the troll.

Gil

Aw what happened “when seconds count the cops are minutes away” now?

Rob

It doesn’t matter. We are not law enforcement. Someone above made a great suggestion. Try to be the best witness you can be.

Paul Revere

It sounds like a fake story used in a test for new attorney’s. The defense for the shooter is that he had no other choice, but to defend himself from the out of control 33 year old reckless driver that attempted to run him off the road. The shooter must have feared for his life and then responded accordingly to save himself and other members of the public who were also being endangered. Keep in mind the 33 suspect wanted by police was a constant threat to the public. Therefore, after being attached by the 33 year old, the 46… Read more »

Gil

The shooter saw what has been going in Europe and tried to save lives.

Rob

Great answer! I too read the article correctly.

Rokflyer

Gil, please,,,,,,, let the adults talk. Does your momma know your on the computer again.

Oldshooter

Gil, maybe you should contact the truck driver’s lawyer with that one. It may be the only argument they’ve got! I see most of the shooting community seems to disagree with his actions, or are waiting for more data about the event.

M Reyna

Gil, you are a piece of work

Dutch

This was very, very wrong. I drive a lot and encounter idiots like this clown in the SUV on a regular basis. While I would love to drag the fool from his mobile weapon and slap the dog snot out of him, I do not; That is called Assault. And to discharge my legally carried weapon is something more than that, like reckless endangerment at the very least. This fool deserves to be prosecuted for being a dumb-a.. cowboy. Unless, of course, the SUV driver tried to run him down or otherwise attacked him with his vehicle. Then and only… Read more »

No Bull

Don’t feed the gil. It’s trying to bait someone into agreeing with it to prove the leftist point that all gun owners are trigger happy rednecks just-a-waitin’ ta shoot somebody.

Jim Macklin

To quote Kansas law… Traffic law is not to be enforced by a private person Statute 22-2403: Arrest by private person. A person who is not a law enforcement officer may arrest another person when: (1) A felony has been or is being committed and the person making the arrest has probable cause to believe that the arrested person is guilty thereof; or (2) any crime, other than a traffic infraction or a cigarette or tobacco infraction, has been or is being committed by the arrested person in the view of the person making the arrest. Statute 21-3216: Private person’s… Read more »

brian santoro

Gil, if i cut u off on the on ramp, are you going to shoot me?

Gil

Why not? Vehicular deaths far exceeds gun death hence trying to stop a dangerous driver with force ought to be justified.

Rob

The key word is ought which makes me believe you make your own laws. Unfortunately, society does not work that way.