Idaho –-(Ammoland.com)- On election night in 2016, gun owners saw their dreams come true as Hillary Clinton was defeated and President Trump was elected, thanks in no small measure to the tireless efforts of grassroots gun owners.
After eight years of fighting with President Obama’s Administration to defend our gun rights, many gun owners assumed that 2017-2020 would be our chance to go on the offense in Washington D.C.
And that is why the membership and leadership of the undersigned organizations are outraged about the recent merger of National Reciprocity legislation with Senator Diane Feinstein’s ‘Fix-NICS’ gun control legislation!
In it’s current form, we absolutely oppose HR 38.
More, we are calling upon our membership to contact their Senators and demand they oppose any gun bill that contains language being pushed by Senators’ Feinstein, Murphy, Schumer and others to ‘Fix-NICS,’ which is nothing more than a massive federal gun registry in the making.
NICS didn’t stop mass shooters in Orlando, FL, Ft. Hood, TX., Las Vegas, NV., Charleston, SC., and many others and expanding NICS will be no more successful.
But Senator Feinstein isn’t worried about that. She’s simply using the recent tragedies in Las Vegas and Texas to attempt to create the largest federal gun database this country has ever seen.
But she could never accomplish this on her own.
Spineless Congressional leaders like Speaker Paul Ryan, House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, Senate Judiciary Chairman Charles Grassley and others have assisted Senator Feinstein in working to pass this gun control bill, a bill she couldn’t even pass under the Obama Administration.
Shame on them all!
The same goes for the National Rifle Association who have been working behind the scenes to orchestrate this entire thing.
At a time when gun owners needed them most, and trusted them to fight to expand our gun rights and stop Senator Feinstein and her allies, the National Rifle Association choked yet again.
Sadly, grassroots gun owners aren’t even surprised anymore after the National Rifle Association also called for a ban on ‘bump stocks’ via ATF administrative rules, in another feckless action trying to placate the D.C. Swamp.
Besides helping to enact bad policy, the National Rifle Association’s actions are just bad politics, as many anti-gun Democratic and weak-kneed Republican congressman can and will use this vote for political cover for years to come.
To reiterate, the undersigned organizations consider a “Yes” vote on HR38 as a vote in support of gun-control and will relay that to our members.
Thanks to state level gun rights organizations and social media, grassroots gun owners have never been more able to ‘look behind the curtain’ and see exactly how their gun rights are being betrayed by weak Republicans and the National Rifle Association.
To those gun owners who are angry about this betrayal, contact your Senators immediately, as this fight now moves to the Senate.
Then join a state and federal gun rights organization that won’t betray you.
If the gun rights organization in your state is hanging their head in guilty silence, and is too afraid to call this bill out for what it is, start a group of your own.
Signatories:
- Christopher Dorr, Executive Director, Ohio Gun Owners
- Aaron Dorr, Executive Director, Iowa Gun Owners
- Patrick Parsons, Executive Director, Georgia Gun Owners
- Greg Pruett, President, Idaho Second Amendment Alliance
- Benjamin Dorr, Political Director, Minnesota Gun Rights
- Alexandra Salsman, Political Director, Missouri Firearms Coalition
- David Ball, President, Wyoming Gun Owners
- Jason Storms, Chairman, Wisconsin Firearms Coalition
- Thomas Walker, Chairman, North Carolina Firearms Coalition
(If you are the leader of a state level gun rights Organization and would like to add your name to this document, please contact Greg Pruett using the information above.)
About Idaho Second Amendment Alliance:
The Idaho Second Amendment Alliance exists to fight for the 2nd Amendment rights of all Idaho citizens. Even in a gun friendly State like Idaho, the 2nd Amendment is under constant threat.
I do not understand this argument over the fix nics addition to this when hr38 was passed without the addition of fix nics under the number HR645, why is there no discussion of HR645?
To Vanns40 Right now it takes a YEAR to fix erroneous NICS data. Nothing in the FixNICS bill deals with no-fly lists or PTSD from last year or 50 years ago. Chif Justice Taney said that all citizens could travel and cross state lines, sojourn [stay] as long as they wanted, singly or in company bearing arms the whole time. They could also attend school, speak on political subjects, serve on juries. Then SCOTUS Chief Justice Taney said that Black people could not be citizens. The part of te Dred Scott decision that says that Black people and former slaves… Read more »
@John Dunlap Lewis: And Greg Pruett? What about him? Don’t try and connect him with NAGR because I know him and know he’s not. Be careful who your associating with what, it lends nothing to your credibility.
HR 38 merged with HR4477 is the most Pro 2A bill that has happened in a long time. I read both bills, and I’m calling my Senators to vote for it! The in-fighting is not productive. Please urge your Senators to vote for this. I think I will help sway enough Democrat to vote for it.
Look at the list of “gun rights” organizations at the end of this article and notice how they are dominated by the Dorr family. These are FAKE organizations associated with NAGR who collect donations from gullible gun owners and then work to DEFEAT real improvements in gun rights. For example: all of the advancements in gun rights in Ohio have been the results of tireless efforts by Buckeye Firearms Association who are the true representatives of gun owners in Ohio. The phony “Ohio Gun Owners” scam does NOT represent the majority of gun owners in Ohio but instead have been… Read more »
@John Dunlap Lewis, If what you wrote is true or partly true, then who the HECK is vetting this propaganda. Those promulgating this are complict. Shame on those.
Posted by AmmoLand Editor Duncan Johnson “a bill she [Feinsein] couldn’t even pass under the Obama Administration.” I believe, in my opinion, this quote is rather disingenuous on many levels.
Unfortunately, as much as I agree that any bill containing the “Fix NICS” language should be opposed, this is indeed a list of state-level organizations largely, if not entirely, linked to Mike Rothfeld, Saber Communications, and yes, NAGR, the gun rights organization Rothfeld created.
This is the Fix NICS bill as passed by the House. If you read it you should see that fixing errors is the meat. There is nothing bad, nothing like obama’s social security crap…it is all just to make it accurate. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38/text SEC. 202. Accountability for Federal departments and agencies. Section 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (34 U.S.C. 40901) is amended— (1) in subsection (e)(1), by adding at the end the following: “(F) SEMIANNUAL CERTIFICATION AND REPORTING.— “(i) IN GENERAL.—The head of each Federal department or agency shall submit a semiannual written certification to the Attorney General… Read more »
It’s a bad Bill. Just two points: 1. There is no “look back” date beyond which you cannot go. Veterans from Vietnam forward who sought temporary help for PTSD and who have led productive lives can be put on this arbitrary “no buy” and then “no fly” list. 2. As for recourse, I’ll let the word of the Bill speak: “…For purposes of the preceding sentence, not later than 60 days after the date on which the Attorney General receives such information, the Attorney General shall determine whether or not the prospective transferee is the subject of an erroneous record… Read more »
@jh45gun M, What meat? Seems like pure mush to me. If an agency head does not submit the proper certification, on time, then the name of their agency gets published. What a punishment! The head of every federal agency, state agency, and tribal government will sit down to their word processors twice a year, change the dates, hit print, sign and send the certification to the USAG. No muss, no fuss, no sweat. But they will take the funds alright.
Thank God that we do not get all the government that we pay for.
Jim: I know you’re going to be a proponent of this no matter what so there’s really no point in continuing the back and forth. We’ve had some really good RKBA and legal minds look this over as well as those versed with ATF and how they act/react. The opinion of all is that this fixes nothing and could well be a disaster. There are those that are willing to give up, literally, anything in order to get what, on the surface is called National Reciprocity but has problems of its own. I’d be in favor of that were it… Read more »
@Eric_CA Hey, brother, long time no hear from. How you been?
Hello Wild Bill,
I’m good. I’ve been busy at work which has cut down on my “reading ” and subsequent posting. I’ve been shootimg IDPA. Came in 8th place last match. My home range burned down last Tuesday. Search “Angeles shooting range.” Yesterday, i was at Raahauge’s for a CRPA 2A bbq. I’m planning on retiring in 54 weeks. Lastly, how have you been?
Hello Wild Bill,
I’m good. I’ve been very busy which has cut down on my “reading” and subsequent posting. I’m shooting IDPA. Came in 8th place at the last match.
My home range burned down last Tuesday. Search Angeles Shooting range to see pictures. I was at Raahauge’s last Saturday for a CRPA 2A bbq.
I plan on retiring in 54 weeks. Lastly, how have you been?
@Eric. I used to live three miles from Raahauge’s in Norco, on Roundup Rd! Good job on the IDPA.
It was a tough year. Two of our oldest dogs died in my arms. The scrawny dog that came for breakfast and dinner every day liked to chase cars. She caught one. She is buried in the pasture on a little hill that she liked.
If you are retiring… Texas is calling. Also retirementliving.com
@Wild Bill, Sorry to hear about your dogs. I know what it’s like to loose one. I stopped pheasant hunting when my German Shorthaired Pointer died. He was a great dog came out in a GSP calendar too. Thanks for the web site referral.
Another article with lots of emotion and few facts. Be specific! What is the problem with the bill passed by the house?
Th GOP legislators are simply cowards who will not stand for our rights.
While I know the NRA works to advance gun rights, they have shown themselves to be ready to trade away rights as they see fit. This all or nothing approach does not help because we have lost many of our rights thanks to the GOP and the NRA.
If you have a pistol permit in your home state , you are in a data base. I think the fear of a Nat’l base is overblown.
We still have our long guns with no trail, and that’s what the grabbers really want to abolish.
It is my belief that they want all guns. And are willing to play the long. Death by a thousand little laws until the anti gunners achieve their goal of total disarmament. This bill with the added Fix NICS is just a step in the total disarmament agenda. For God’s sake it was originally written by Dianne Feinstein, wake up. That witch has only one goal, disarm America. The NRA has always been about compromise. NO MORE COMPROMISES!
Don’t give an inch and don’t try to find justification for it. Just stop, because they won’t.
The NRAs public announcement on Bump Stocks and their willingness to write off a small niche within our hobby shows their true backbone… (I became a GOA lifetime member that day)
Read the writing on the wall.
I have read HR 4477, and it does not change the original NCIS, it does not create new groups of prohibitive persons, it does not create more gun control. The fear mongering and conjecture is not warranted. I feal this gun lobbying in-fighting is not productive and hurtful to the cause. I feel some these groups want to recruit more members off the back of the NRA with the use of fear. Read the bill.
HR 4477 does not come without a hefty price tag. $615 million to 900 million in its current form. I do not want to pour more money into NICS. Not with a plan written by democrats, especially Dianne Feinstein.
A lot of that money is to pay the clerical cost of taking names OFF THE LIST when a wrong person is denied.
There are more than one bill in Congress with similar names. IF you read the actual bill that passed the House as HR 38 you will see that HR 38 DOES NOT create a list of CCW/CCH . It does not register any guns. Fix NICS DOES NOT create any new categories of prohibited persons. It just makes sure the government actually reports the convictions from Court Martial. News seems to be that besides the Sutherland Church killer, the Las Vegas killer was also prohibited but not reported. Fix NICS is clerical. It also includes funds to get names OFF… Read more »
Jim: I don’t want to get into a lengthy discussion on this but you’re just wrong on the “Fix-NICS” Bill. It will put thousands of people in a database who don’t belong there, deny them their Rights and cost them thousands of dollars and possibly years to get off it. This is a horrible bill which will “fix” nothing but will destroy lives.
Correct. In fact some of the fixes will speed up correction of wrongly included duplicate names.
My sentiments exactly. I don’t like comprise either. Hell no one does really. We just want what we want. However instead of fear mongering the way the libs do we need to read the bills and not just presume what is in their. Ps Feinstein is horrible and I can’t wait until she retires.