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Despite the liberals screaming for years about the “threat” of global warming, the temperatures are getting colder and the snow fall heavier. So much for that!

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James Brigham (Bigg) Bunyon
James Brigham (Bigg) Bunyon
2 years ago

Everything in the universe moves from a state of higher energy to a state of lower energy; from order to chaos … that little entropy thing you may have heard about. If you drop 100 tons of brick, steel, wood and etc. from an airplane, it isn’t going to fall into a fully constructed well ordered house. It’s a matter of averages in one sense; the universe is heading toward equilibrium and cold things will gain heat while hot things will lose energy. But over the long haul, since the earth is a high energy device, it will cool; as… Read more »

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago

Looks like minds are already set in concrete. Some accept GW and some don’t.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Brickey, Looks like some accept science and some don’t. The scientific method has never been applied to so called global warming research. But the hacked emails discussing changing the data to fit the faked models is pretty persuasive.

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

I believe those have been shown to be BS.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

B, I believe that they have shown to be evidence, and are corroborated by the so called researchers’ own faulty prediction models.

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago

Can’t get past being insulting? Such comments add nothing to the conversation. And Scott seems to have a better grasp than you do since you offer nothing to back up your opinion.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Bickerly, That sure is not much of an insult. I can be more insulting in my sleep.

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

So can I but does it help the conversation?

RJL
RJL
2 years ago

Atmospheric Geoengineering can anyone chime in on this? Are there any effects caused by the man-made trails?
Is this just a figment of our imaginations? Could someone educate me on this subject matter?

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  RJL

If you are referring to CHEMTRAILS there is no such thing. They are called CONTRAILS as in condensation trails. Just as during the winter your breath and the exhaust from vehicles can be seen when moisture in the breath and exhaust condenses. The hot exhaust of jets in a very cold atmosphere cause the condensation you see. This has been going on from the introduction of the very first jets in the 1950s. I don’t know who created the chemtrail idiocy.

Paul Fitch
Paul Fitch
2 years ago
Reply to  gandolf

Actually, contrails can be seen behind piston powered bombers in WWII. It is the moisture in the exhaust, not the type of engine that creates them.

Now I don’t know if any one (our government) is adding anything to the exhaust for some nefarious reason, but as you noted, the CONTRAILS are a natural result of high altitude flight in air breathing engines.

RJL
RJL
2 years ago
Reply to  gandolf

@ gandolf: So, you have done spectral Analysis of those vapor trails to see what they really contain, and have published this scientific research, correct? What is the basis of the fallacy/reality without published proof? Thank You for your input.

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  RJL

And have you done spectral analysis to show that there are chemicals in those contrails. Where is your proof and analysis to the contrary? Do you think there are big tanks in the wings from which chemicals are injected into the exhaust of the jet engine? Why would anyone want to add weight to the plane for some nefarious reason?

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  RJL

So you have done spectral analysis of those vapor trails to see what they really contain and published a paper? What is basis your published proof. Thank you for your input.

freewill
freewill
2 years ago
Reply to  gandolf

@gandolf..cold air passing through hot engines creates a vapor that will last 20 to 30 seconds and disappear, ive watched aircraft with no trail and then all of a sudden theres the trail, several more jets come along with the trails and turn and come back over and over again, the trails dont disappear and the skies get cloudy, your car exhaust and breath dont last hours

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  freewill

Actually when your car warms up and is running at 14.1 to 1 ratio there is less water produced. I see my breath for as long as I am outside in the cold. Airplanes running above the clouds put a lot of pollution in the air. Below the clouds you have rain and snow which cleans the air.

freewill
freewill
2 years ago
Reply to  gandolf

@gandolf, your car exhaust disappears after a few seconds, your breath disappears after a few seconds, it doesnt stay there and get cloudy all around you,

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  gandolf

Where in my posts did I say that the condensation hangs around like a cloud? As I posted the condensation disappears as the car exhaust reaches temperature. My breath condenses every time I exhale outside in the freezing cold.

freewill
freewill
2 years ago
Reply to  gandolf

these jets in question fly back and forth all day in the same area, normally cold air passing through hot engines leaves a vapor trail that last 30 to 40 seconds, but with these jets criss- crossing over and over the vapor doesnt disappear, the skies get cloudy trapping in heat and pollution, a hole opens naturally in the ozone to release heat and pollution and then closes, but it cant if its cloudy, your breath and exhaust quickly disappears

freewill
freewill
2 years ago
Reply to  RJL

@RJL..the trails dont disappear, it gets cloudy trapping in heat and pollution, volcanoes have blown their tops for millions of years, theres more pollution from one blast than all the cars in history, the earth protects its self with the ozone, a hole opens up and releases pollution, if its cloudy, pollution and heat cant be released

RJL
RJL
2 years ago
Reply to  freewill

So when the ozone hole opens and releases the pollution, do the solar winds remove these gases/plasmas?

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  freewill

From my automotive technology course at college I learned that the ozone layer couldn’t be depleted by chlorofluorocarbons. The ozone layer was supposed to be damaged by the chlorofluorocarbons but the molecules are so heavy they fall to the ground and not go into the atmosphere. Pollution isn’t washed away above the cloud layer because it takes rain and snow to cleanse the atmosphere. Since it doesn’t rain and snow above the clouds the exhaust of aircraft which is full of CO2 and other gases just sits there.

explainist
explainist
2 years ago

1): Neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed, but either may be transformed into the other 1A): Corollary to 1): You can not throw anything away. There is no away. With the exception of a few deep space probes, anything and everything that ever was on earth still is on earth. 2): Vast amounts of energy was stored in the ground in the form of fossil fuels. That energy source was uncovered and has been released only within the last 150 years. 3): The energy that has been released did not go away. There is no away. 4):… Read more »

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  explainist

When coal became the fuel of industry during the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION and as the major heat source in the world there was more CO2, Sulphur and other nasties being put into the environment than at any other time. Why don’t any records show that the globull warming was the worst it ever could be?. The volcanic vents on the floor of the Pacific are 600 degree kettles warming the Pacific Ocean.

DOWBAAY
DOWBAAY
2 years ago
Reply to  explainist

UR GREATLY “OVER-SIMPLIFIED” … SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION {sic}… IF THATs WHAT UR OFFERING AS “SCIENTIFIC” – IS SO OVER-SIMPLIFIED, ITs AMUSING. IT FAILS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DOZENS OF RELEVANT FACTS/FACTORS THAT OCCUR IN THE PROCESS.

** NO: …MAN IS *NOT* “BURNING UP THE PLANET”… THATs THE SOCIALIST-LIB “GEO-POLITICAL” EXPLANATION… and THEY GONNA STICK-TO THIS “ARGUMENT”, TO GAIN CONTROL OF THE PLANET. IN OTHER WORDS: MORE POLITICS & B.S.! …CHINA MAY BE. INDIA MAY BE! YES -THEY NEED TO BE REIGNED IN… BUT THE REST OF THE PLANET? NAHHHH… THE “PLANET” IS WELL EQUIPPED TO HANDLE IT, OTHERWISE.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 years ago
Reply to  explainist

“ergo… inevitably warming”?? That’s a ridiculous conclusion (pulled out of thin air, if you’ll pardon the pun). And it is anything BUT inevitable, since the vast majority of “burned fossil fuel” is translated into mechanical motion, and only a fraction of the fuel’s energy actually IS expanded and (inconsequentially) released into the atmosphere. As long as atmospheric CO2 remains constantly under 1000 parts-per-million [currently – and historically – at 400 parts-per-million] level, and ocean levels do not rise… it is physically IMPOSSIBLE for global warming to be true. Despite all the rhetoric, carefully-edited data, and partially-scientific demagoguery that “believers” throw… Read more »

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

Where’d this info come from?

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

The UN

Scott
Scott
2 years ago

Climate change is nothing to snicker at. The mere fact that increased Co2 concentrations in the ocean is acidifying the water having ecosystem changing effects on wildlife, i.e. “the food chain”. As the climate warms the permafrost in tundra prone area’s will also heat up releasing a much more concerning gas in the form of methane that has been trapped for eons. This release of methane into the atmosphere is some thirty times more potent than co2 as a greenhouse gas. As a gun guy veteran who loves freedom I acknowledge that there’s more to this supposed global warming “hoax”… Read more »

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  Scott

CO2 concentration in the ocean is offset by the plankton which convert the CO2 to oxygen. Trees and that single cell organism produce the most oxygen on the earth from CO2.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Scott

Scott, How do you explain the hacked emails in which the researchers discuss changing the data to fit their models, so that they can get more lucrative research grants?

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago

We all have our opinions. That’s good. Discussion,, even arguments, are good for us. But please drop the personal insults. They add zero to the discussion.

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago

GLOBULL WARMING!

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago

There is a natural cycle going on. Humanity is making it come faster and further than it otherwise would.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

B, The cycle is not natural if humanity is making it come faster. Conversly, if the cycle is natural, then humanity can not make it come faster. What you wrote is just double talk.

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

GLOBULL WARMING.

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

What I wrote is logical enough. There is a long term natural cycle that warms and cools the earth (as well as shorter ones). Humans can, and have, put enough crap into the air and oceans to make a difference. That speeds up the process, or, conversely slows it down. How much effect do we have? Well, that’s the meat of it. None, a little, a lot. Time will tell.

CWT
CWT
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Are you taking into account volcanic activity? One major eruption puts more “crap” as you call it into the air and oceans then years of human activity. There have been 17 eruptions since 2000 measuring 4 or greater ( VEI index 0-5). Scientist can’t even accurately define what effects that will have on climate much less what humans have.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Larry, with abject apology to Johnny Carson… Wrong-O, Moosebreath! Humanity is not making anything occur any “farther and faster” than occurs naturally. Humanity’s total historic contribution to atmospheric CO2 (which remains steady at a 400 parts-per-million level, despite everything human – and could more than double without any discernable effect on weather. anyway) is far less than the effect of a single day of heavy sunspot activity. [Carbon dioxide (CO2) is NOT a “greenhouse gas,” by the way… Carbon monoxide (CO) is, but CO2 is a plant nutrient ! The greater the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, the lusher,… Read more »

G reen Mtn. Boy
G reen Mtn. Boy
2 years ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

says:

“Larry, with abject apology to Johnny Carson… Wrong-O, Moosebreath! Humanity is not making anything occur any “farther and faster” than occurs naturally.”

Joe Post of the day !

Jocko
Jocko
2 years ago

Its real cold right now, so that shoots a big ol hole in that global “warming” crap right??? Not that the warming of the upper atmosphere causes extreme weather on both ends of the spectrum. …nah… couldn’t be that.

It must be nice to have half a brain, so much less to have to think about in today’s world.

Macofjack
Macofjack
2 years ago
Reply to  Jocko

@Jacko – speaking of half a brain is either half of your brain working. Guess climate freaks just can’t take a loss. Your BS has been show to be wrong over and over but you can’t take it. Are you still screaming about Hillary’s loss??? Just asking…..

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Jocko

@Jacko, Abductive reasoning is based upon conclusions drawn from personal observation. Deductive reasoning is a conclusion drawn from available data. You use neither. You just can not get by the lack of scientific method and those hacked and published emails where in the researchers discussed among themselves the necessity of changing the data to fit their models.

freewill
freewill
2 years ago

it snowed in Houston, across to Alabama, was 39 degrees in El Paso and we only hear about cold areas a little warmer, i think the planet has naturally tilted a little and its changed the jet stream

Mike Squirrel Hunter
Mike Squirrel Hunter
2 years ago

“man made global warming” is a farce, plain and simple. Read these quotes by well over a hundred
mmgw wonks, and a bunch of them tell the tale:
that mmgw is a means to a political end, and the only hope for the UN and leftists to redistribute the world’s wealth.

http://www.c3headlines.com/global-warming-quotes-climate-change-quotes.html

Mark Are
Mark Are
2 years ago

Mankind is like ant farts when it come to the “carbon footprint” that we add to the environment. Global warming is part of a cycle. Warm, cold. It has to do with the sun and how it is affecting us at any given moment. It is a NORMAL event, not something that is caused by mankind. One volcano that erupts, it has been proven, emits more carbon dioxide and particulates into the atmosphere then what has been emitted by man since the beginning of time. Want to stop some issues with weather? Look up any nice day and notice the… Read more »

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago

Global warming is real. What we’re witnessing right now is called weather. Get over it. While we’re freezing the majority of the world is warmer than normal. Extreme events will be more and more common. Open your mind a bit.

Robert J. Lucas
Robert J. Lucas
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Recommended reading and study the findings of the Vostok ice core data. Worth researching, if you have not already.

G reen Mtn. Boy
G reen Mtn. Boy
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

By all means open ones mind to the Scam. U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare Economic Systems: The alarmists keep telling us their concern about global warming is all about man’s stewardship of the environment. But we know that’s not true. A United Nations official has now confirmed this. At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism. “This is the first time in the history of mankind… Read more »

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Larry, YOU are the one who needs to get over it… and open YOUR mind, to a formal education in classical physics. There is indeed concrete proof that global warming is an absolute hoax. The first serious warnings about global warming became widely public in 1972. At that time, a rise in ocean level was predicted – by “leading” so-called scientists – to be 1″ to 3″ (!) every year. Disaster was guaranteed, in writing. IF that prediction had been correct, in the past 45 years the ocean levels would have [by the REAL laws of physical science] risen somewhere… Read more »

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

We can trade science articles till we’re blue in the face. Time will tell. Peace.

file:///C:/Users/LarryB/Documents/The%203%25%20of%20scientific%20papers%20that%20deny%20climate%20change%20are%20all%20flawed%20%E2%80%94%20Quartz.html

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Water evaporates from the oceans, lakes, rivers and ponds and causes our rainfall and snowfall. There is a finite amount of moisture over the earth. I’ve lived at the shore for over 60 years and have yet to see the ocean rise.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Brickey, Global Warming? You think that the globe is warmer than it should be? What temperature is the earth supposed to be?

freewill
freewill
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

hey Larry, if i can put my two cents in…the forests of Alaska was once covered in ice, the ice melted long before man came on the scene, and one other note, ive watched aircraft on a clear day criss cross over and over that eventually the skies cloud up, it should be common knowledge that cloud cover traps in heat and pollution

LesWol
LesWol
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

I agree. I do believe we’re in a natural warming cycle that has been exacerbated by human activity. Because it’s a natural trend I don’t endorse expensive and controversial measures like forcing people to buy electric vehicles or redistributing wealth. Keep it cheap and simple: every little “green” move helps. Humans have survived sudden climate changes in the past with far less technology and resources than we have today. It’s time to quit arguing over the cause of global warming and pull together no matter what we believe when extreme weather happens.

gandolf
gandolf
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

Since globull warming means the entire world at once that isn’t happening. The majority of the world ? Nonsense.

G reen Mtn. Boy
G reen Mtn. Boy
2 years ago

It’ global warming,cooling,climate change if one buys into the carbon tax/fee Scam,other wise it the weather.

VT Patriot
VT Patriot
2 years ago

Laughing here in VT. Days like we’ve had for the last week make me happy for ‘global warming’. When it’s -26 deg at the top of my favorite ski mountain, I praise the heavens for global warming. I’m scared to think how cold it would be without it.