Reasonable Self Defense Response Tips : Update

By John Farnam

Crime Tape
Reasonable Self Defense Response Update

Ft Collins, CO –-( Addendum to yesterday’s Quipon reasonable self defense:

I’ve received many responses to yesterday’s Quip about lethal self-defense, as you might imagine, and I thank all who took the time to get back with me.

Here are some particulars that need to be added:

  • 13) Don’t shoot unless you have to! It all comes down to that. When you need to shoot immediately in order to prevent yourself from being crippled/murdered, it will probably be blatantly obvious! When it isn’t, you probably don’t need to shoot!
  • 14) When you need to shoot, shoot with sufficient volume and accuracy necessary to produce lethal wound(s) and thus finish the fight quickly. The longer this fight goes on, the more deadly risk you expose yourself to. When there must be a lethal response on your part to a deadly attack, get the fight over with as quickly as you can. In legal parlance, you can’t shoot someone in a “non-deadly” manner, nor should you try!
  • 15) Don’t approach downed/wounded suspects. When a suspect has been wounded, even when he is on the ground and not moving, stay well away from him. He is still extremely dangerous!
  • 16) Whatever you do, or don’t do, it won’t be “perfect.” Understand and expect that many will come along afterward and point-out where, and how, your could have done it better. And, they’ll probably be right! Happily, the law doesn’t require you to be “perfect.” It does require you to be “reasonable,” however the System chooses to define the term.
  • 17) Join ACLDN (Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network)! They are a powerful ally, and one you’ll be glad you have!

Some have asked for an expanded explanation of how to deal with responding police. For a competent explanation, you really need to come to a Class, but maybe the following, will be helpful:

When confronting police in the aftermath of a lethal-force event, have no guns, nor other weapons, in your hands, nor showing.

Your lines are:

  • a) Officers, thank God you’re here!
  • b) I’m the one who called.
  • c) Those men attacked us.
  • d) They tried to murder us.
  • e) We were in fear for our lives.
  • f) I will sign a complaint.
  • g) I will be happy to answer your questions, but not until my lawyer is here.
  • h) I don’t feel well, and I may be injured. I need to go to a hospital, now.

Each of those points, of course, needs expansion, but that is the base scenario.

Even when you don’t believe you’re physically injured, it is a good idea to get to a hospital to be checked-over. You may be injured and not realize it!

I suggest pointing out to police:

  • Ongoing threats
  • Articles of evidence that may not be obvious
  • Witnesses who may have seen what happened but are not obvious.

Aside from those exceptions, silence is your best ally in the short term. Your lawyer may eventually permit you to be interviewed by police, but only after you’ve had an opportunity to compose yourself, and even then, only in his presence.

I hope the foregoing clears-up some questions, but none of it represents an adequate substitute for attending a Class.

This is serious business, and you need to approach it seriously!


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About John Farnam & Defense Training International, Inc
As a defensive weapons and tactics instructor John Farnam will urge you, based on your own beliefs, to make up your mind in advance as to what you would do when faced with an imminent and unlawful lethal threat. You should, of course, also decide what preparations you should make in advance, if any. Defense Training International wants to make sure that their students fully understand the physical, legal, psychological, and societal consequences of their actions or inactions.

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2 years ago

Farnam has presented some very sobering and realistic facts here and in the prior article. Even though you are carrying a gun that doesn’t prevent you from being the victim if the situation goes bad. Be prepared to save your life if it becomes necessary.

2 years ago

Has anybody ever actually used their self defense insurance?
I have the one offered by USCCA, but NRA and Texas Law Shield and some others are available
Here in Florida there will be a stand your ground hearing and I would want a lawyer for that as well as the initial police interview
USCCA says they offer bail money if arrested, lawyer retainer fee and will do all that immediately
Any body have personal experience with any of these companies?

Jim Macklin
Jim Macklin
2 years ago

“14) When you need to shoot, shoot with sufficient volume and accuracy necessary to produce lethal wound(s) and thus finish the fight quickly. ”

If I have to shoot I’ll be shooting to stop them from continuing their attack. I hope the wounds won’t be fatal but immediately incapacitating. I will be aiming for the torso.rib cage and probably using 230 grain JHP. I agree with everything else.