Busting the Lies & Myths of a Trained Armed School Staff

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Busting the Lies & Myths of a Trained Armed School Staff

USA – -(Ammoland.com)-There has been more national and local news coverage about arming school staff in the past two weeks than we have ever seen.

Along with that record amount of coverage comes plenty of statements, from people opposed to the idea of armed school staff, that are either untrue or misleading.

Here are the top 8 armed school staff myths:

Myth: We shouldn’t require teachers to carry a gun.
Fact: No district is requiring any school staffer to carry a concealed firearm. When a school district decides to authorize staff to carry, they ask for volunteers. And most districts get far more volunteers than they thought they would need.

There is not currently a requirement for anyone to carry, and no one is talking about making it a requirement. It would be an equally ludicrous suggestion to require all citizens to carry a concealed firearm, where concealed carry is legal.

Myth: Teachers don’t want to carry a gun, they want to teach.
Fact: Many teachers already carry a concealed firearm in the rest of their lives. Absent being authorized to carry on campus, they must disarm for work.

Myth: We can’t train teachers to be police officers; they don’t have the right mindset.
Fact: No one is suggesting they be made into police officers. Authorized school staffers are extremely well trained in stopping an active killer, and stopping the bleeding for those who have been injured. Both of these skillsets will save lives.

When you talk to those school staffers who have been trained and carry on campus today, they are insulted by the suggestion that they don’t have the mindset to stop someone trying to kill their kids.

Myth: Cops won’t know who the bad guy is if teachers also have guns.
Fact: A vast majority of these mass casualty events are over before law enforcement arrives. Staffers are trained on how to account for potential confusion in the 911 call, and how to advise law enforcement who the armed defender is. Schools that have armed staff already talk to their local law enforcement to advise them just who on campus is armed.

Myth: Kids will be frightened if they see their teacher with a gun.
Fact: Kids don’t see the firearms. Armed school staff carry concealed, and no one is talking about them open carrying. Some school children interviewed actually appreciate armed staff because it makes them feel protected.

Myth: Our school has a School Resource Officer (SRO) or other armed and uniformed security. We are protected and don’t need additional armed staff.
Fact: Having armed and uniformed security staff on campus is better than no one being armed. If a campus is large enough for an SRO, it’s a large campus. In the 2013 attack on Arapahoe High School in Centennial, CO, there was an SRO on campus. When he confronted the killer, the coward killed himself. But it was not in time to save Claire Davis. The SRO responded at full speed to the sound of gunfire, but in the 45-seconds it took him to get there, it was too late to save Claire. Had there been an armed staff member closer than 45-seconds away, they just may have been a chance to stop him before he was able to kill her.

In Parkland Florida, there was an SRO on campus and that was neither a deterrent nor a guarantee against the loss of innocent life.

Myth: Based on the low “hit rate” of law enforcement when they fire their service weapon, there is no way an armed teacher can hit the killer.
Fact: Most of these killers commit suicide when confronted with an armed defender, without a shot being fired. And in a situation where an armed staff member would have to engage the killer, any chance to stop him is better than no chance to stop him.

In addition, FASTER trained school staff members pass a qualification test that exceeds the test that law enforcement is required to pass in their respective states.

Myth: Schools can’t afford school supplies, how can we expect them to afford guns and training?
Fact: Groups like FASTERSavesLives in Ohio and FASTERColorado in Colorado raise private money to help schools afford the very advanced training. Schools spend a lot of money on SROs, video systems, and other school security measures. Training armed school staff is a very small expense in comparison.


Laura Carno
Laura Carno

Laura Carno is the Executive Director of FASTERColorado.com, an organization that trains armed first responders in schools to stop the threat and stop the bleeding.

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Vanns40
Vanns40
2 years ago

The next time a troll brings up deadly “high capacity magazines” ask him if he’s interested in a little demonstration by law enforcement:

One of the best I’ve seen so far. Trolls need not reply.

Vanns40
Vanns40
2 years ago

Troll Alert

John Frazer
John Frazer
2 years ago

Front Sight in Nevada has kept up their offer since Columbine to pay travel and lodging and training and free gun, for any school staff to come for their courses. US DOJ numbers show that civilians who use guns in defense are less than 20% as likely as police to use guns wrongly or cause undue harm. And that civilians with CWP are among the best most law-abiding of any segment of the population. better than politicians, judges, or police officers. Cops bust civilians for doing 1/4 or less the sh!t they let each other get way with. Shooting a… Read more »

Vanns40
Vanns40
2 years ago

@Noah: I forgot to add to my last response: Before you and the trolls come out from under the bridge again please respond to the points I made (that should keep you busy for a while).

R
R
2 years ago
Reply to  Vanns40

Wow. Very comprehensive list. Thanks for all the work you’ve done to expose the crisis mongers for what the are, a group with an agenda…

M Reyna
M Reyna
2 years ago

Noah
Get back on your ARK and be quiet

Vanns40
Vanns40
2 years ago

@Noah: Yeah, you replied with the same garbage replies we’ve been hearing for so very long it’s depressing. Here’s a few stats for you: from 1982 thru 2018 (so far) we’ve had 95 so called mass murders. Broken down, 77 of them were in gun free zones where law abiding citizens were prevented, by law, from having the means to defend themselves, 4 mass shootings were the result of a regular crime, such as a robbery of a store, gone wrong, 1 was by a police officer and 1 was the result of an intentional arson. The rest, 18, occurred… Read more »

MickiZ
MickiZ
2 years ago
Reply to  Vanns40

Excellent rebuttal. Too bad trolls have the attention span of a goldfish doing laps in a fish bowl.

Wes Bielinski
Wes Bielinski
2 years ago

So if we arm teachers, will the librarians have to use silencers? 🙂

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 years ago
Reply to  Wes Bielinski

LOL Excellent point!

Larry
Larry
2 years ago
Reply to  Wes Bielinski

Jeez, did anyone read that? Me neither. Guess you don’t have much to do with your time. Your loose relationship with facts and truth in all you posts is probably why no one pays much attention to you!

Vanns40
Vanns40
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry

The point of my post, and I try not to post things that put people to sleep, is that trolls like Noah like to spew out meaningless facts while ignoring the real statistics. So, just a couple of times I have posted all the instances where cars and trucks have been used as weapons of mass murder, far exceeding that of firearms. Noah, however will never respond simply because he can’t, he’s a troll.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Vanns40

@Vanns, This current crop of trolls are not paid to lie about truck violence or baseball bat violence…yet.

Jarrod7
Jarrod7
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

The ‘trolls’ totally getting under your skin! It doesn’t help that they are using facts to do this, which I guess is all the more annoying to you, but just ignore them and they will go away. the fact is he keeps saying the truth about the number of mass school shootings. Guns, and a particualr type of gun, are used. These murders are unacceptable and a national disgrace. It is also a particularly American problem. if you cant acknowledge this there is something wrong with you, not the troll. it doesn’t matter what your view on 2A or AR-15s… Read more »

Jarrod7
Jarrod7
2 years ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

They’re not being paid at all. there is no need, people express their opinions for free. like you’re doing it for free. Arent you?

Noah
Noah
2 years ago
Reply to  Wes Bielinski

Nice one Wes. Love it.

Chris T in KY
Chris T in KY
2 years ago

A teacher has fired his gun to save his students before. His class escaped the building unharmed. But died in the attack.
see 1.57 minutes into english you tube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-rHQ5IDu8A

This is 4.03 minutes long. Not in english. But after watching I understood it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGODvf2EYr8

There is also a 1 hour long special about chemistry professor syed hamid huassin, who used his own gun to defend his class. I’m sorry if I miss spelled his name.

Marc DV
Marc DV
2 years ago

Who Chooses who Gets the Training ? Who Ever Is Chosen Better Be Ready For Boot Camp ! If Not It Will FAIL ! People By Nature Will Not Kill Another Human. Ya Ya Ya There are Some Who Are Wired Wrong. But Those Of You Who Have Served In The Military, Think How You Were Brain Washed Into Becoming A Killer ! DON’T Like The Term SORRY But True ! Di s Screaming at You Range Instuctor’s Repeating Over and Over 1 Shot 1 Kill . With out that , Alot of Men Could Not Do What Was Needed… Read more »

Tionico
Tionico
2 years ago
Reply to  Marc DV

READ the article. It plainly states the only ones who get the training are the ones who VOLUNTEER to take it. We’ve seen how DISARMED teachers respond to school shooters.. Columbine, Sandy Hook, and now Parkland all revealed teachers who did all tjey could by standing up under fire and placing their own bodies as sheilds for some of their students, all giving their lives in a desparate attempt t save some. Dontchya think if any or all of these three had been armed, they’d have done less to save their beloved kids? How if each had been armed and… Read more »

rich
rich
2 years ago

It all comes down to this. THEY CAN (carry) YOU CANNOT(carry) .The next generation needs just as much (even more) PROTECTION ,than those PROGRESSIVES in congress . They (progressives ) are NO better than the rest of US .

Jim Macklin
Jim Macklin
2 years ago

The “special training for teachers” has not been specified yet. But teachers will be defending the classroom and the students. Teachers will not be doing room searches, that is a job for SWAT. Teachers will not be doing trauma surgery but after the teachers have been armed some first aid such as basic compression bandages and tourniquet application to keep the wounded alive until the professional EMTs are allowed in by the police. The armed teachers should be carrying in deep concealment, a compact 9mm such as a GLOCK 43 or Ruger LC9. But handguns are easy to carry and… Read more »

Laura Carno
Laura Carno
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim Macklin

Hi there Jim, the training is very well established. We brought it to Colorado from Ohio where they have been training it for 5 years to over 1,300 school staff. Check out wwwFASTERSavesLives.org for the OH site. Lots of resources!

Pistol Pete
Pistol Pete
2 years ago

I would gladly pay for a gun and ammo to arm a qualified Teacher or staff member

Docduracoat
Docduracoat
2 years ago
Reply to  Pistol Pete

I agree with pistol Pete
I would be glad to buy two M and P 15’s and a case of ammo for my local school with my own private funds

Bud
Bud
2 years ago

Fact: Most career teachers begin to see their students as if they were one of their own. That is the mind set that prompts their defense response when their students are threatened. To question the mind set of some of the most dedicated and well educated people on earth is foolishness. If trained and allowed to be armed they would be a formidable and trustworthy line of defense for your children . I say this as a retired teacher who spent a good portion of my life in the class room.

R
R
2 years ago
Reply to  Bud

Nice to hear from a teacher, instead of someone ASSUMING how they think teachers MIGHT think or feel…

Herb T
Herb T
2 years ago

Tell me again what democrats/socialists are proposing/offering to prevent or mitigate criminal shootings. Banning guns will work no better than did prohibition and the war on drugs. Criminals will make lots of money selling banned items and have guns. Law-abiding citizens will not. How much will it cost to require teachers to take first-aid classes from local EMTs?

HK
HK
2 years ago
Reply to  Herb T

Well, in Kommieforniastan they had DICTATED that NO SCHOOL may have armed staff. The Democrats ruling this state WANT kids bodies to push their anti-gun agenda. Wishful thinking doesn’t make things so, only people willing to stand up to evil make things happen.

Paracosm76
Paracosm76
2 years ago

We are going to hell for not doing the right thing here. Wehave venerated the gun and valorized its usage. America is violent and the gun is a preferred instrument of that violence. More guns inschools is the dumbest attempt at a solution ever. And you smart ones who are repeating such drivel are an afront to God.

Priest
Priest
2 years ago
Reply to  Paracosm76

Noah, we are here because too many people in power/ authority have turned the Nation away from GOD while others have gone along. Remember, the nation that forgets GOD is turned to SHEOL. A big part of SHEOL is confusion.
So, instead of condemning , go back to Jesus, repent , and ask for wisdom. We are commanded to bless , not curse.

Daniel R Thomas
Daniel R Thomas
2 years ago
Reply to  Paracosm76

You need to reaquaint yourself with what it is the God actually says and requires of us. Psalms 144: NASB Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle; Luke 22: NASB [35]And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” [36] He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. [37] For… Read more »

Noah
Noah
2 years ago

Thanks Daniel

Perhaps quote the rest of the bible too.

You might find some other answers.

Vanns40
Vanns40
2 years ago
Reply to  Paracosm76

There have been two intelligent replies to “Noah” so far. If we see no reply from “Noah” we can be certain of one thing, he’s a troll who, like most, utilizes the “hit and run” approach.

Noah
Noah
2 years ago
Reply to  Vanns40

Vann here’s your reply. try reply with some thought like the others above.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Vanns40

Vanns is correct that most paid propagandists from the Anti-Civil Rights Movement use hit and run tactics because they have so many websites to go. We, ourselves, are experiencing a biblical flood of them recently.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Paracosm76

@ah…No, America is not nearly as violent as other countries, so where do you get your statistics? What are your qualifications for speaking for God? First you say “We” then you conclude with “..you smart ones..” So which is it? Are we together or is it you versus us?

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 years ago
Reply to  Paracosm76

Wow. Noah, I cannot determine whether your post is sarcastic, facetious, ignorant, muck-raking, or an outright lie. 1) Who the hell is the “we” that you accuse of “venerating” inanimate objects? 2) America is not even in the top 140 countries in the world in terms of overall violence and crime… and is not even in the top 25 in terms of just firearms-related violence. Guns are not the “preferred instruments,” since more than half of all US violence involves other weapons (fists, ropes, feet, hammers, knives, drugs/poison, etc). In America, we nonchalantly sell the world’s most powerful non-nuclear explosive… Read more »

Noah
Noah
2 years ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

Hi Joel I looked it up. USA is ranked 50 in the most violent and dangerous countries in the world. There is not a single other first world country in the top 50, In fact, you need to get to 91 before you get to the next first world country. By any measure this is bad news. We are number 11 in gun crime. number one is school shootings. and the highest number of mass shootings in the top 50 (the stistics you claim elsewhere are also wrong) Everyone else – free free to look all this up. Joel’s stats… Read more »

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
2 years ago
Reply to  Noah

You “looked up” information from rabidly liberal sources (Vision of Humanity, Atlas & Boots, etc) – and you certainly knew exactly where to get the Leftist-biased results you were looking for – then you claim that MY information is “baloney”… forgive me…

Perhaps I should research National Enquirer history files… so that my information will be as high “quality” as yours.

Bill
Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Noah

Of course. “Gun crime,” not “crime,” not “murders,” or anything objective about the well being of a nation. That’s how propaganda works, so why not make use of its deceit?

And, of course, the solution to preventing carnage is to make sure that anyone needing defense is disarmed. Typical liberal logic. Crazy idea, letting people defend themselves.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Bill

you caught him, good job. He is doing amateur thought control by doing language control!

trlrider
trlrider
2 years ago
Reply to  Noah

HI @Noah! Now, take your atlasandboots.com statistics and also use the actual statistics, which are partially incorrect and remove the shootings and killings from this 10 Democratic strongholds, all of which have stringent gun laws: St. Louis, Mo, Baltimore, MD, New Orleans, Detroit, Cleveland, Kansas City, Memphis, Chicago, Cincinnati, and Las Vegas Once you take these 10 Democratic Party controlled cities from the statistics, then tell me where the United States ranks worldwide in firearm deaths and violent crime overall! Have fun, and you will find the US does not even hit the top 100, in fact it will be… Read more »

Norm Bristow
Norm Bristow
2 years ago

If just a half dozen teachers had been armed in Florida, it likely would have reduced the outcome of injury and death. A gun-free zone offers security and confidence to the killer in those first few minutes, with them knowing there is no chance of retaliation. A least there is a fighting chance to those teachers already trapped if they are armed. Just wounding, scaring or injuring the killer would give some precious time to the police. Ideally, they would shoot the killer early in his visit to the school.

realspark21
realspark21
2 years ago

In addition: Saying that teacher/staff ‘don’t have the mindset’ or ‘don’t have the training’ to protect the students in their care ASSUMES they will also NOT protect themselves (or SHOULD not be allowed to protect themselves). This is the height of conceit…it presumes that the ‘government’ is the only answer…and what is the question? Is it that teachers, staff, and children don’t deserve the same protection afforded to law makers at their place of work? Is is that teachers and staff DESERVE to die, simply for working at a school? Is it that teachers and staff cannot be trusted to… Read more »