It Depends on What the Meaning of Facts Is

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Obama Crazy
The opinion Obama is expressing is not unique to him. This is the way far too many liberals think.

USA – -(Ammoland.com)- Former President Barack Obama (I love the adjective preceding his title) made some comments at the recent Global Opinion Leaders Summit in Japan that I can't let slide, so please forgive me.

“It used to be that the two political parties in the United States would disagree but there was a common base line of facts and a set of norms in terms of political behavior that were followed. … You could have a disagreement, but basic things got done. … And some of the reason for that is … it used to be that in the United States, there were three television stations. Basically everybody watched the same thing. Everybody got their news from the same sources, and so everybody had, more or less, a similar view of the world. But today, because of first cable television and then now the internet, people have 500 channels to choose from, and they are able to find the news that fits their views instead of fitting their views to the news, so they are very biased in terms of how they see things, in a way that just didn't used to be the case. And so it becomes harder to have a proper democratic debate if we don't agree on just basic facts. … I can have an argument with somebody who doesn't think it's worthwhile for us to sacrifice economic growth in order to reduce carbon emissions. It's much harder to have a debate with somebody who doesn't believe that the planet is getting warmer despite the fact that 99 out of 100 scientists say it is. … When you don't have a common set of facts, it's hard to have, then, a basic democratic conversation.”

The opinion Obama is expressing is not unique to him. This is the way far too many liberals think.

I've heard former news luminaries such as Ted Koppel and Dan Rather separately lament that conservatives are essentially in a different reality. The liberal worldview springs from a healthy mind; the conservative one is not a different but valid alternative; it is just wrong.

Do you see the irony? Liberals don't see that they are grossly guilty of what they are complaining about.

They are the ones who don't accord legitimacy to opposing views. Obama revealed his contempt for opposing viewpoints most infamously in his “bitter clingers” remark, but we witnessed him demonstrating it throughout his presidency, when he seemed to take umbrage at disagreement itself, as opposed to the reasons for the disagreement. If people disagree with leftists, they are being unreasonable, because leftist ideas are self-evidently true. Even worse, they presume that they alone are compassionate and that conservatives are heartless, self-interested wretches.

As an example, a young leftist criticized me on Twitter for noting that a certain student gun control activist has become offensive, hostile and partisan in his advocacy while berating those who don't agree as placing their partisanship before children's safety. My Twitter stalker asked me: “Since when is not wanting to get shot a partisan issue? Aren't you bothered in the least that grade-schoolers have drills about crazed gunmen?”

I responded: “What makes leftists think that because we don't agree with your proposed solutions we care any less about the problem than you? We actually want to address it. Your collective arrogance is astounding — no offense. I assume you want to help; you assume we don't care.”

Now back to Obama. He longs for the days when an oligarchic media delivered a monolithic message. Darn that Rush Limbaugh (though Obama forgot to mention my evil brother this time) for opening up the media floodgates for an equally valid worldview. Darn Fox News, darn the internet [ and darn AmmoLand News]. Competition is anathema to leftists not only in economics but also in the dissemination of information itself — the lifeblood of democracy.

They liked it better when the reporting of so-called facts was controlled by a narrow group of Beltway elites with a similar bias — a bias that influenced what the elites deemed important enough to report (or useful to their political agenda), the way they reported it and their commentary on it. It was much better when the expression of conservative dissent was limited to the local bar and the renegade conservative newspaper columnist.

A good way to determine which group of people is credible is to notice which is unafraid of the liberal flow of information and of the public's ability to separate fact from fiction. Those who want to control the information are the suspect ones. Former Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis famously said, “Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants.” Ironically, Obama once approvingly cited this. You will note that it is never conservatives who advocate limitations on free expression through campus speech codes and other forms of censorship.

If leftists weren't so self-important, they might understand that these things they call “facts” are not always objectively true. Take Obama's dogmatic assertion that 99 percent of scientists believe the planet is getting warmer. Many dispute that assertion, saying that it is based on a skewed study and that there are thousands of scientists known to disagree. Further, many believe that even if it's occurring, it is not primarily being caused by human beings and that even if it is, there is not much we could do, short of returning to a Stone Age-like existence, to reverse the process, and it's doubtful that would work, either. Studies have shown that the draconian measures leftists support wouldn't appreciably reduce global mean temperature in 100 years.

But if we disagree with Obama's facts, then we are ridiculed as science deniers and told that there is a consensus and the matter is closed — claims that are wholly antithetical to the scientific method.

Leftists' attitude that their subjective opinions should be universally recognized as objective truth is precisely why we need to promote the flow of information from all sources and let the people decide for themselves what is and isn't credible. Thank heavens for the advent of conservative radio, conservative TV news and the internet, all of which, in various ways, liberals are trying to undermine or seize control over. Beware.


David Limbaugh
David Limbaugh

David Limbaugh is a writer, author and attorney. His latest book is “The True Jesus: Uncovering the Divinity of Christ in the Gospels.” Follow him on Twitter @davidlimbaugh and his website at www.davidlimbaugh.com.

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Mark Young
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Mark Young

Fact: The planet has heated up and the world has cooled down over the past 10,000 years (and before).
Hypothesis: The planet will continue to do so.

Edward Weber
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Edward Weber

“If its the numbers you doubt than argue them.”

THAN argue them??? THEN argue them. We are supposed to give you credence when you cannot use proper English?

Paracosm76
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Paracosm76

None of the writers can write. (Though Dean W is the least literate)
It’s a page to sell advertising and for readers to tap out there outrage to each other. It’s of no other consequence but to generate traffic to advertisers.

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richard37

This is pretty right on. As a Libby, I wouldn’t expect a conservative to “get it”. Allow me to put it in simple terms: If you take statistics (and agree they were done to some level of agreed upon accuracy) and you argue their value (i.e 2+ 2 does not equal 4), YOU LOOK UNINTELLIGENT/DON’T UNDERSTAND THE TOPIC AT HAND. By definition that alludes to how high the person’s intellect is. So when they say the earth got warmer – what are you going to say? “70 is less than 69!” It makes you look moronic. If its the numbers… Read more »

Frank
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Frank

If you understand statistics, you should know that small sample sizes and cherry picking outliers affects the result. Just look at a simple regression analysis.
Surely you remember the hockey stick chart of the 90s? Bad data in, bad data out.
When you add in the fact that various climate scientists have cooked their books, the level of trust is somewhat lacking.
When variables such as solar output is ignored because it provides an alternative answer that may be legitimite, one may become suspicious that there is an agenda.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

And “peer review” is not part of the scientific method, nor a substitute for experimentation with repeatable results.

Robert Pollard
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Robert Pollard

There is an agenda!

Inwashington
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Inwashington

Did you even read the article? The whole thing? 70 doesn’t equal 69, dah…that’s NOT the entire argument. Is the diffence caused by humans, THATs one argument. Is there ANYTHING that can feasibly be done to change it back to 69? That’s another argument. But you and your Libby buddies can’t get past the argument (only one of many having to do with the subject) of is the world actually heating up. And THAT IS the problem with debating with “libbys”.

Robert Pollard
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Robert Pollard

I guess you’ve never heard of “science for sale”

WrongAgainLib
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WrongAgainLib

Three words Lib – “straw man argument” your BS is seen for what it is, BS as what is normal when chatting with a lib.

tomcat
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tomcat

Obumer talks about the”democratic conversation” but I ask who in the hell wants anything to do with democratic anything. We are still a Republic regardless what his twisted ass thinks. I think that was the same speech where he said he hoped to train a million or more in his or big M’s way of thinking. He needs to go back to Kenya and run that country the rest of the way into the ground and leave us alone.

Tim
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Tim

Thanks for expressing what I have believed for a long time.

Phil Auten
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Phil Auten

I believe President Reagan said it best: “The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

Phil in TX

James Slemons
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James Slemons

This Loser Hack Needs To Be Locked Up For Lying Cheating Stealing and Being Treasonous !

Marc Disabled Vet
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Marc Disabled Vet

Facts Is Facts !
Unless Your a Democrat ,
Then they Bend A Little ( a lot ) !
Or They Change to Fit What They
Want Them to Fit !

( I did not have sexual relations with that women )

gcm
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gcm

@MDV, the cigar did.

Paracosm76
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Paracosm76

Clinton is as pure as the saints compared to Trump.
And the biggest liar and conman of them all. Wake up.
We chose him as our leader and he is one of the worst examples of a person or leader ever.
Good luck to us.