Does the Pope Believe in Hell? Let us Hear Him Say It Exists!

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Pope Declares No Hell Drudge Report
“Pope Declares No Hell?”So ran the riveting headline on the Drudge Report of Holy Thursday.

USA -(Ammoland.com)- “Pope Declares No Hell?”So ran the riveting headline on the Drudge Report of Holy Thursday.

Drudge quoted this exchange, published in La Repubblica, between Pope Francis and his atheist friend, journalist Eugenio Scalfari.

Scalfari: “What about bad souls? Where are they punished?”

Bad souls “are not punished,” Pope Francis is quoted, “those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls.”

On the first Holy Thursday, Judas betrayed Christ. And of Judas the Lord said, “Woe to that man by whom the Son of Man shall be betrayed; it were better for him if that man had never been born.”

Did the soul of Judas, and those of the monstrous evildoers of history, “just fade away,” as General MacArthur said of old soldiers? If there is no hell, is not the greatest deterrent to the worst of sins removed?

What did Christ die on the cross to save us from?

If Francis made such a statement, it would be rank heresy.

Had the pope been speaking ex cathedra, as the vicar of Christ on earth, he would be contradicting 2,000 years of Catholic doctrine, rooted in the teachings of Christ himself. He would be calling into question papal infallibility, as defined in 1870 by the Vatican Council of Pius IX.

Questions would arise as to whether Francis is a true pope.

The Vatican swiftly issued a statement saying the pope had had a private conversation, not a formal interview, with his friend Scalfari.

The Vatican added: “The textual words pronounced by the pope are not quoted. No quotation of the aforementioned article must therefore be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”

Sorry, but this will not do.

This does not answer the questions the pope raised in his chat. Does hell exist? Are souls that die in mortal sin damned to hell for all eternity? Does the pope accept this belief? Is this still the infallible teaching of the Roman Catholic Church?

However one may applaud Francis' stance on social justice, on matters of faith and morals he has called defined doctrine into question and created confusion throughout the Church he heads.

In his letter Amoris Laetitia, “The Joy of Love,” the pope seemed to give approval to the receiving of Holy Communion by divorced and remarried Catholics, whose previous marriages had not been annulled, and whom the Church holds to be living in adultery.

Relying on the pope's letter, German bishops have begun to authorize the distribution of Communion to divorced and remarried couples.

Cardinal Gerhard Muller, former prefect of the Vatican office for the Doctrine of the Faith, the position once held by Pope Benedict XVI, says this contradicts Catholic doctrine as enunciated by Pope John Paul II.

Said Cardinal Muller, “No power in heaven or on earth, neither an angel nor the pope, not a council, nor a law of the bishops has the faculty to change it.”

Four cardinals, including Raymond Burke of the United States, in a formal letter, asked the pope to clarify Amoris Laetitia. The pope did not, nor has he addressed the cardinals' concerns.

Indeed, when asked early in his papacy about the immorality of homosexuality, the pope parried the question, “Who am I to judge?”

But if not thee, who? Is not the judging of right and wrong part of the job description?

Nor is it only in the realm of doctrine that the pope has sown confusion among the faithful.

To legalize the underground Catholic Church in China, the pope and the Vatican have agreed to ask Catholic bishops to stand aside for bishops approved by the Communist Party that seeks tighter control of Christian faiths.

The Vatican has also agreed to approve the consecration of a bishop named by Beijing, whom Rome previously regarded as illegitimate.

The capitulation is necessary for the Catholic Church in China to survive and prosper, argues the Vatican. But what kind of church will it become, asks retired Archbishop Joseph Zen Ze-kiun of Hong Kong.

The Vatican is “selling out” the Church in China, says the archbishop: “Some say that all the effort to reach an agreement is to avoid the ecclesial schism. How ridiculous! The schism is there, in the Independent Church!”

Archbishop Zen concedes his criticism of the Communist Party and the Vatican's diplomatic efforts are causing problems in closing the rift between the underground Church and the Communist Party-sanctioned church, but makes no apology:

“Am I the major obstacle in the process of reaching a deal between the Vatican and China? If that is a bad deal, I would be more than happy to be the obstacle.”

There is a division inside Catholicism that is widening, between a Third World and traditional church that are growing, and a mainstream Church in Europe and here that is taking on aspects of the Anglican Church of the 20th century.

And how did that turn out, Your Holiness?

Happy Easter!

 

Pat Buchanan
Patrick J .Buchanan

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.

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Jap

There is a hell.
It’s full of kiddy fiddler catholic priests and their bosses, all the way to the top of the food chain in the sewer called the vatican.
Just look at some of the wonderful phases of human history that they have be responsible for.
The Crusades.
Numerous witch trials and burning’s.
The inquisition.
The destruction of native races world wide.
And all the time stating that they are doing God’s work!

Nancy Reyes
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Nancy Reyes

the Crusades were a push back to atrocities of certain Muslim rulers. The witch trials were few, and also found in Protestant and pagan lands (indeed, witches are killed by folks in Africa today) Professor Teofilo Ruiz (UCLA) has a nice series of lectures about this on youtube. Even the BBC has debunked the Spanish Inquisition propaganda. As for native races: you mean from diseases accidentally introduced by explorers, or deliberate starvation of the natives, as was done by the Brits against the Irish, the Russians against the Ukrainians, and Mao against a lot of Chinese farmers? And without Catholic… Read more »

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Jap

Spoken like a true believer.
I don’t have the time to pull apart your fantasy bit by bit so I will only touch on 2 of your points.
1. Pagans have never held witch trials, we have more respect for all life than to do that.
2. I never said “homosexuals” nor “teenagers”, I said “kiddy fiddler”. The victims of these degenerates are from both sexes and are typically young children.
Just look at the charges cardinal George Pell is facing here in Australia.
And finally, for the record, Both Easter and Christmas had their origins in pagan ceremonies, as does Halloween!

tomcat
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tomcat

This Pope is a definite liberal. He believes anyone with any wealth should give it to the poor. There has been a number of non-Catholic positions he has taken. He is not bringing the Christian faith together.

Richard J
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Richard J

Christian mythology is very interesting.

Schofield Kid
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Schofield Kid

You said it! Nothing like good ol’ religion to fire up the bimbo masses and get us at each others’ throats. “My god can beat up your god!” Some things never change. Me, I’m sticking with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny!

Joe Buddha
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Joe Buddha

You said it! Nothing like good ol’ religion to fire up the bimbo masses and get us at each others’ throats. “My god can beat up your god!” “Oh yeah? This means war!!” Some things never change. Me, I’m sticking with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny!

Core
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Core

I believe his moral compass is shifting with the times to appeal to more worldly followers and draw them to the Holy See. Whether or not God approves is to be determined. The Pope is just a man, unlike Christ: imperfect and not worthy to judge others according to the scriptures. There is surely Hell as it’s clearly documented in the scriptures, but many other social issues are less defined. God forgives all who repent and are washed in the blood of Christ, for we are all with sin.

Robert
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Robert

I call for a vote of no confidence!

Charles
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Charles

The pope is fallible, he cannot forgive sin, “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.” I strongly believe that the catholic church will play a role in the one world false religion (Combine with the muslims) during the 7 year tribulation after the true believers are raptured. IF the pope contradicts scripture he is sinning and therefore a heretic, but then again he is a sinner.

Mike L
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Mike L

Realize that the claim that the Pope said that was made by Scalfari, an atheist journalist who does not record or take notes of conversations, but merely writes whatever he thinks was said. He has made false claims about what the Pope said twice before. He is looking for his 15 minutes of fame. Also remember that at Christmas and especially Easter, these kinds of stories abound. The church and the truths of the birth and Resurrection of Christ are things that the secular world needs to attack. I think if you look at all that Pope Francis has written… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Mike L, So the “journalist” lied. Shocking the world sell more papers. There is a lot of that going around, now days.

Bud
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Bud

It seems the Pope has either not read the scripture or simply chooses to ignore it. He thereby leads thousands into into ignorance. For one example “the rich man lifted up his eyes in hell” and asked Abraham to send someone to warn his living brothers to repent so they would not come where he was being “tormented in these flames.” This pope is not a man of God. He is more like a false prophet.

Cheryl Kelley
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Cheryl Kelley

He is anti-Christ.