Can a Pope Change Moral Truth?

Pope Francis
Pope Francis

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- That joking retort we heard as children, “Is the pope Catholic?” is starting to look like a serious question.

Asked five years ago about a “gay lobby” in the Vatican, Pope Francis responded, “If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?”

As judgment was thought to be part of the papal job description, traditional Catholics were startled at what the new pope had volunteered.

Now the Holy Father has apparently fleshed out what he meant.

According to a childhood victim of a pedophile priest in Chile, Juan Carlos Cruz, a homosexual to whom the pope apologized, Francis said: “God made you like this and loves you like this and I don't care. The pope does love you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.”

The Vatican has not denied what Cruz relates.

What makes this remarkable is that the catechism of the Catholic Church, based on the Old and New Testament and tradition, has always taught that homosexuality is a moral disorder, a proclivity toward sexual relations that are unnatural and immoral.

The idea that God is responsible for homosexual orientations, that the pope and the Catholic Church are fine with men being attracted to one another, and that those so oriented should be happy with it, appears, on its face, to be heresy.

It implies that what Catholics regarded for centuries as moral truth was wrong, or that moral truth has evolved and must be made to conform to modernity. This is moral relativism: Truth changes with the times.

And if what Cruz reports is accurate, the pope's position is close to Hillary Clinton's.

In 2016, at a New York fundraiser, Clinton recited her infamous litany of sins common to the “basket of deplorables” backing Donald Trump.

Said Hillary, they are “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.”

A phobia is “an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.” Clinton was thus saying that those who have an aversion to homosexuality are morally or mentally sick.

Yet, up until December 1973, homosexuality itself was listed as a mental disorder by the American Psychiatric Association.

The new morality we hear from the pope and Hillary reflects a historic change in the moral thinking of the West. For the belief that homosexuality is normal and natural, and not only acceptable but even praiseworthy, has carried the day.

Legislatures and courts have written this “truth” into law. It has been discovered by the Supreme Court to be lurking in that Constitution whose authors regarded and treated homosexuality as a grave crime.

And, yet, from this historic change, questions naturally arise:

On the issue of homosexuality, have we ascended to a higher moral plateau? Or has America jettisoned the truths we believed and replaced them with the tenets of an ideology that may be politically and culturally ascendant but is rooted in nothing but baseless assertions and lies?

Consider the views of Cardinal Gerhard Muller, lately removed as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, as to what is behind the drive to have “homophobia” regarded as a mental disorder.

“Homophobia (is) an invention and an instrument of the totalitarian dominance over the thoughts of others. The homo-movement is lacking scientific arguments, which is why it created an ideology which wants to dominate by creating its own reality.”

In short, cultural Marxists and their progressive allies have taken an ideological assertion — homosexuality is normal, natural and moral — without any historical, biological or scientific basis, and asserted it as truth, established it as law, and demanded that we accept and act upon this truth, or face the wrath of the regime.

Said Muller: “It is the Marxist pattern according to which reality does not create thinking, but thinking creates its own reality. He who does not accept this created reality is to be considered as being sick.

“It is as if one could influence an illness with the help of the police or with the help of courts. In the Soviet Union, Christians were put into psychiatric clinics. These are the methods of totalitarian regimes, of National Socialism and of Communism.”

As Russell Kirk wrote, ideology is political religion. And the dogmas of the political religion by which we are increasingly ruled have displaced the teachings of Christianity and tradition.

Since the Stonewall Riot of 1969, homosexual relationships have gone from being seen as indecent and immoral, to being tolerated, to being accepted, to being on the same plane as traditional marriage, to being a constitutional right.

And if you do not accept the new morality, you are a deplorable bigot. And if you act on your disbelief in the equality of homosexuality, you will be ostracized and punished.

The truths being jettisoned built the greatest civilization known to man. Will the invented truths of our new egalitarianism survive the arrival of the new barbarians? It's not looking all that good right now.


About Patrick J. BuchananPat Buchanan

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.“

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grim reaper
grim reaper
2 years ago

Seeing as how the last election went seems there’s a lot of Clintonphobia in this country.

Larry Brickey
Larry Brickey
2 years ago

That foolish Pope. Letting science be part of his reasoning.

Sleven
Sleven
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry Brickey

As if science were an incorruptible, absolute, and pure moral force in itself. How many times has science been bass akwards wrong, yet no one holds the scientific community accountable, and no ones “faith” in science is shaken when science gets it wrong. Science is more of a religion than religion is! One thing to remember- scientist can be the same kind of corrupt, greedy, cheating liars as the people in politics are, but for some the “followers” of science believe it is incorruptible and infallible. Such great faith!

Charlie
Charlie
2 years ago

The Pope will have to answer to God. The damage he causes with distortion of scripture as a church leader leads others to sin. He is presuming authority he dos not have. Anyone who has read scripture knows his statements are wrong and offend God.

tomcat
tomcat
2 years ago

It must be tough being Andy to wake up every morning and have the same cloud hanging over his head. I guess depression is a bad disease.

Anyway, This pope is the most liberal I think I have ever heard. He is a socialist but I don’t think catholicism is a socialist religion. Helping your fellow man and contributing to the church is all part of it but giving half of my hard earned cash to someone who does nothing is not my idea of being Christian. God helps he who helps himself.

Don Baker
Don Baker
2 years ago

I urge all real Catholics to boycott the collection plate as long as this lying fraud is the pope.

Bud
Bud
2 years ago

It appears the Pope ignores scripture and has made his own decision about moral truth.

Perla Simmons
Perla Simmons
2 years ago

For the article on the Catholic position on Homosexualty, please refer to the article “ Ministry to Persons with a Homisexual Inclination, issued by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops ( USCCB), published in Nov14, 2006.
To summarize, we are all called to holiness.
If one has homosexual inclination, as inclinations to other sins, one must not act on it ( homosexual tendency). Rather, one is asked to practice chastity , and seek help.
For other questions on Catholicism, please refer to the USCCB. As one resource. There are others I’m sure.

Connie
Connie
2 years ago

Man says “God says”—

BTW, no particular offense taken, but what is this topic, interesting as it may be (or not), doing on a gun/ammo blog?

Tionico
Tionico
2 years ago
Reply to  Connie

the rights associated with guns and ammo are constantly under attack, and we deal with those tendencies here as well as with the tools themselves. The rights associated with moral truths, one’s liberty to decide how HE will live, are also constantly inder attack, and the sodomite crowd are amongst the most egregious deniers of MY right to hold the moral standards of MY choosing. Thus, the simiarity of cause. Not a stratch at all. The current sorry excuse of a pope seems to have taken up the posision of Bloomburg’s Mad Mamas, only with the issue of sodomy instead… Read more »

TheHolyCrow
TheHolyCrow
2 years ago

Some say that he is a Crypto Jew. Some say that the Jesuits were started by Crypto Jews who only pretended to convert so that they could hold onto their worldly goods. Some think that the Catholic Church invited the devil in through the front door quite a while ago. When you hear their argument and their facts, it really makes you wonder. Hmmmm-Maa ! When Jesus arrived again, He will sort it out. The Tares will be uprooted and thrown upon the fire.

Wayne L
Wayne L
2 years ago

Firstly , all Catholics aren’t scum !
Secondly, this ” pope ” just may be the falae prohet the Bible speaks of
He made me cringe when he said GOD ALMIGHTY created a HOMOSEXUAL!!!!!!
If that is so..when are the gay dogs ?? gay cats ??? gay giraffes…don’t exist ..do they?
THE POTTER does NOT make broken vessels!!!
Vessels are broken by outside influences or semd broken..
You know the nature vs nurture conundrum!

RJL
RJL
2 years ago

New World Order Poster Boy, If He Were Honest, He would tell the truth.

Dan Krischke
Dan Krischke
2 years ago

I am Catholic and I am NOT scum. I am a veteran (6 Bn 9 Inf Div Vietnam) and I do wish we could sit down for a chat. I offer that because I know you would never agree to it, Buttmichael. The Catholic Church is the only Christian group that dates back to Christ Himself. All other belief groups are in heresy. I wish I could be more subtle, but that attitude is why we are where we are today. Have a good life.

Andy Buckmichael
Andy Buckmichael
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan Krischke

Where the catholics are today — perverts, pedophiles, criminals including the nuns.

DaveW
DaveW
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan Krischke

First, Thank you for your service, my brother. 632SPS, Binh Thuy AB, Can Tho Province, Mekong Delta, IV Corps, RVN. Next. While I agree that the Catholic Church dates back to the time of Christ, down through the ages, under different Popes, politics, power, control of the masses, accumulation of wealth have altered the teachings of Christ. Such desires on the part of the leadership lead to the Inquisition, which resulted in confiscation of properties and wealth by the Church. Confession, which allowed priests to hear wrongs committed by parishioners and then to extort from them that which was desired… Read more »

Colonialgirl
Colonialgirl
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan Krischke

Total BS from the word GO!! The catholic church DOES NOT “date all the way back” to Christ Himself; It was formed in Rome a hundred years AFTER Christ and there is a description in the Bible (YES!! even the catholic bible) that mentions a WHORE that sits on the SEVEN HILLS OF ROME and Calls itself “The Mother” does THAT sound familiar ? The Catholic church has been the most evil and corrupt institution in history; LOOK at how greedy they are, LOOK at all the wealth they hold yet say YOU should help the poor. WHY NOT use… Read more »

Andy Buckmichael
Andy Buckmichael
2 years ago
Reply to  Colonialgirl

Amen.

explainist
explainist
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan Krischke

The Coptic church is older than the Catholic church. Origin 42 AD, Alexandria, Egypt. your facts fail you

Andy Buckmichael
Andy Buckmichael
2 years ago

All catholics are nothing but scum.

CountryBoy
CountryBoy
2 years ago

Take a good LONG look at yourself…..

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  CountryBoy

, Andy hates everyone, but himself worse of all.

Darrell M.
Darrell M.
2 years ago

Standard liberal/progressive/communist tactics. When call us whatever -phobic, implying that we have the mental disorder. It falls right into Alinsky’s rules for radicals. Accuse your opponent of anything to turn the focus away from yourself. Always remember, that when liberal/progressive/communists make accusations against someone, they are guilty ten times over of the same or even more egregious offense. These people are coming for our children and grand children. They have been in our schools now for decades. Filling them with the philosophies of their immorality and preying upon them sexually. I suspect that the current pope has some skeletons in… Read more »

Rev R Vincent Warde
Rev R Vincent Warde
2 years ago

I’m a theologically conservative evangelical minister – and I have some thoughts on the subject: 1) Same sex sexual relations are definitely prohibited by the Scriptures. In the New Testament, the same Greek word is used in regards to any sex outside of heterosexual marriage. Homosexual sex is not any more of a sin – or any less of one – than heterosexual sex outside of marriage. 2) While same sex attraction (homosexual or bisexual sexual orientation) is a result of general sin in a fallen world, sexual attraction is not a personal, individual sin. Only when it is acted… Read more »

Andy Buckmichael
Andy Buckmichael
2 years ago

I have always said that preachers, rabbis, popes, etc. are people that did not want to work for a living, just talk stupid people into giving them money for nothing.

Graystone
Graystone
2 years ago

And Andy, we will pray for you as well as those are of the same mindset.

Charlie
Charlie
2 years ago

It’s sad Andy that you are so hateful about a subject you do not understand. Until you are born again, repenting for your sins, made alive by the Holy Spirit, believing Jesus the Son God died for you, you will be spiritually dead (and blind) and destined for hell for eternity. Some here will pray that you come to faith, whether you like it or not. Knowing how God made me and what knowledge he has given me I am pretty sure I am not stupid. I don’t base this on my executive government positions over the years or wealth.… Read more »

Charlie
Charlie
2 years ago

It’s sad Andy that you are so hateful about a subject you do not understand. Until you are born again, repenting for your sins, made alive by the Holy Spirit, believing Jesus the Son God died for you, you will be spiritually dead (and blind) and destined for hell for eternity. Some here will pray that you come to faith, whether you like it or not. Knowing how God made me and what knowledge he has given me I am pretty sure I am not stupid. I don’t base this on my executive government positions over the years or wealth.… Read more »

Tionico
Tionico
2 years ago

No argument with what you have written here. It is factual and accurete. HOWEVER< once called into His church, we are to leave behind out sinful actions, being "transformed by the renewing of our minds in Christ Jesus.". This pope appears to be justifying the man's homosexual ACTIVITY, not just his "tendencies". And condoning, even embracing and encouraging, sodomy (and fornication adultery, drunkenness, thievery of various sorts, even the "thumb on the scale" in business, ) is not to be tolerated wtithin the church. And THIS apparent acceptance of homosexual ACTIVITY by the pope is the issue Mr. Buchannan is… Read more »