Oklahoma Governor Fallin Vetoes Constitutional Carry

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Oklahoma Governor Fallin Vetoes Constitutional Carry

Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- -Oklahoma Governor Fallin vetoed the Constitutional Carry SB 1212, on May 11 of 2018. Governor Fallin is term-limited out. She is not allowed to run for another term as governor. From kfor.com:

OKLAHOMA CITY – Governor Mary Fallin has vetoed a bill that would have allowed for permit-less carry.

Senate Bill 1212, also referred to as the “Constitutional Carry” bill, was presented by Sen. Nathan Dahm, R-Broken Arrow.

Oklahoma Governor Fallin Vetoes Constitutional Carry
Governor Fallin Vetoes Constitutional Carry

On 2 May, 2018, the Oklahoma Senate passed Constitutional Carry.  The popular bill passed both the House and the Senate by veto-proof margins. It passed the Senate on a 33-8 vote. The Senate was able to vote for the bill because maneuvering in the Oklahoma legislature allowed it to bypass the Senate committee that was blocking it.

On 25 April, 2018, the Oklahoma House of Representatives passed Constitutional Carry by a vote of 59-28.  The bill had already passed the Senate unanimously on March 6th, 2018, but as a bill removing wildlife refuges as gun free zones.

While SB1212 passed with strong, veto-proof margins, the legislature has adjourned.  The legislature no longer has the power to override Governor Fallin's veto.

Second Amendment supporters and anti-carry groups engaged in heavy lobbying urging Governor Fallin to sign the bill or to veto the bill as a last-ditch effort to stop the popular measure. From newsok.com:

Fallin has about two weeks to decide whether to sign Senate Bill 1212, which would allow Oklahoma residents who are at least 21 to carry a firearm without a permit or training.

Michael McNutt, the governor's spokesman, said Monday, “The governor's office is receiving heavy traffic in the form of emails and calls from both sides of the issue regarding SB 1212. The governor is discussing the measure with her staff as well as reviewing input from citizens, groups, agencies and others.”

Most of the power of Second Amendment groups is in the votes they can mobilize. They have relatively little money. The strong suit of the anti-carry groups is lots of money to lobby with from former Mayor Bloomberg and other billionaires. Governor Fallin, as a term-limited Governor, has less accountability to voters.

Constitutional Carry refers to the state of the law when the Bill of Rights was passed in 1791. At that time, no permits were required to buy, possess, or carry firearms in the United States.  In states with Constitutional Carry, no permit is required for most adults to carry firearms openly or concealed.

A resurgence in Constitutional Carry has been happening since 2003.

In 2003, Alaska passed the reform to restore the exercise of Second Amendment rights. After seven more years, in 2010, Arizona passed Constitutional Carry. In 2011 Wyoming passed their version of the concept.

In 2013, Arkansas passed Act 746 into law. It is effectively Constitutional Carry, but is disputed by some county prosecutors. In 2015, Kansas, and Maine joined the Constitutional Carry club. By 2016, Idaho, Missouri, West Virginia, and Mississippi enacted Constitutional Carry. Then in 2017, New Hampshire, and North Dakota were added to the list. Vermont has always been a Constitutional Carry state.

Several other  Governors have vetoed Constitutional Carry bills. They include Governor Bullock (D) of Montana, Governor Tomblin (D) of West Virginia (overridden by the legislature), Governor Nixon of Missouri (D) (overridden by the legislature), Governor Hassan (D) of New Hampshire (since passed), Governor Daugaard of South Dakota (R) twice, and Governor Herbert (R) of Utah twice.

Montana, South Dakota, and Utah have all failed to pass Constitutional Carry to the present day.

There will be a serious push to pass Constitutional Carry in Texas in 2019 during the next legislative session.

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About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

  • 15 thoughts on “Oklahoma Governor Fallin Vetoes Constitutional Carry

    1. I’m not a super organized, or wealthy person, but I’ve managed to acquire and maintain a valid Oklahoma permit since my early 20s. It only requires a $60 one day class that’s impossible to fail, a $10 passport photo you can get at any chain pharmacy, and submitting the certificate of completion, $150-200(can’t remember) and the photos to the sheriffs dept with a couple pages of basic personal information with your background check and fingerprint card. You’ll get your permit in a couple months. If someone can’t afford to deal with that process, then they can’t afford a gun, holster, and ammo safe for daily carry use anyway. If they’re not responsible, or organized enough to get through that process then they probably shouldn’t be carrying a gun anyway. The recent proposal here would’ve allowed 18yr olds to start carrying the moment they enlisted in the military, and slashed the law enforcement budget. Bad ideas on there own, but allowing teenagers to start carrying guns they aren’t even allowed to purchase until they’re 21, and cutting the law Enforcement budget in the same move is clearly problematic.

      1. @B, Do you think that the founding fathers wanted you to have to pay $60, have to take a class, get a passport photo, take a test, submit a certificate, connect with the sheriff’s dept., have a background check, get fingerprinted, and wait a couple of months for the government to give you permission?

      2. @B Did you take a government class, get fingerprints and a special license to use your 1st to type all that? Nope
        You sound just like one of those ORA libs that haven’t read the 2A and think it’s .gov that tells you what to do. I guess poor folk just ain’t got nothing from the likes of you. Guess they don’t deserve it huh?

      3. You know that I owned and was carrying/wearing a handgun starting at the age of 13. And it was legal too. But that was fifty years ago in Alaska. You young people have no idea how different things are now. More’s the pity.

    2. While I understand what the writer is getting at, no state can “… restore the exercise of Second Amendment rights” because no state can take them away. The Founders, having just fought a war to escape a tyrannical government, and realizing how easily even a carefully crafted government can become tyrannical, enshrined the God-given right of self-defense in the Second Amendment. That right of self-defense comes from the theological corollary of “Thou shalt not kill” (literally, thou shalt not murder), the corollary being, “Thou shall preserve life.” All the states can do — and the feds, for that matter — is to stop violating the Constitution.

      1. Scarlett.
        no state govt, nor Congress, Judiciary, or President HAS THE ENUMERATED POWER TO DISARM WE THE PEOPLE.
        or pass EX POST FACTO LAWS TO DO SO.
        and ALL GUN CONTROL LAWS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
        our RIGHTS OF DEFENSE PREDATES ANY GOVT PERIOD, and our great forefathers FOUGHT A REVOLUTION TO PROVE THIS POINT.

      2. Scarlett, The Federal government, the states governments, the county governments, and the city governments have created and employ their own armed personnel to take away your Second Amendment Rights in real time. If a police man tells you to drop your handgun, and you reply that he has no authority to take away your Second Amendment Rights, I don’t think that a polite and scholarly discussion of the issue is going to follow.

    3. You know I keep saying that,one thing about the left wing liberal democrats stick together an stay a fully fledged democrat to the end.The Republicans hardly ever stick together.Then when on gets to be a federal judge,they almost always flip.They never stay a full conservative.Example the judge in Washington state that shoved it up Trumps ass was appointed by Bush.What the hell is going on ,they having brain freezes or what

      1. You mean “judge” Robart? The clown that took up the case he had NO AUTHRITY to take up? Read the Constitution, Art 3 Sec 2 Par 2…. that case can NOT be heard by a judge of Robart’s two bit small town rank. And HE knows it or should.

        But, NO ONE called him on it, as should have happened. What about all the gubmit uffishuls what swore their oath to protect and uphold the Constitutioin, who let the Robart clown take a walk when he CLEARLY violated the Constitution in even hearing this matter? Robart, along with the lot of them, need to be run up on felony perjury charges. But WHO will bell the cat?

    4. This was a political fix. They pass it and look like hero’s for votes in upcoming elections then she vetoes it because her career is done then the next goboner candidate comes in and runs on the platform of “I’ll get it done”. They aren’t interested in the 2A or safety they are just interested in votes.
      The Oklahoma Rifle Association affiliated with the NRA protested it heavily because they are worried about their cash cow SDA class business falling off and can’t see they could become real instructors and actually teach all the new folks how to shoot. You’d have to become more than a power point ranger though.
      The NRA should be ashamed to have put themselves in with these losers and are supposed to be supporting it not helping those fighting it.
      The OCPD claims gang member will START carrying guns lol like they already aren’t. They told so many lies in the interviews they should be ashamed.
      The press tried using the wild west story just like they did with concealed and then again with open carry but it’s a worn out song and dance.
      THIS ISNT OVER YET THOUGH

    5. You guys got it backwards, but I guess it doesn’t really matter. It passed in the House first, and then passed in the Senate (not the other way around). Then Fallin vetoed the bill like the traitor communist that she is.

    6. Solution,Primary her and it sends a message to other would be Republicrats that RINOary will not be tolerated.

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