Medical Gun Experts? AMA, Give Me A Break….

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Medical Gun Experts? AMA, Give Me A Break….

Ft Collins, CO –-(Ammoland.com)- The leftist American Medical Association (AMA) puts political pressure on doctor/members to discourage patients from being gun-owners.

Doctors are instructed to ask patients if they own guns, and then advise them to get rid of all of them!

Many doctors, particularly my students, ignore this sleazy, leftist, political propaganda, but many others adhere to it, even asking patients to fill-out forms where they are asked if they own guns.

My advice:

Most doctors and other health-care professionals are not academically qualified to provide anyone with advice on guns safety! A medical degree does not automatically make one an “expert” on any subject you care to mention!

When my doctor advises me to quit smoking, he at least speaks with authority. He certainly knows more than I do about this subject. It doesn’t mean he can’t be wrong, but I should still listen to him, because he knows what he is talking about from a mdeical standpoint.

With subjects outside of medicine and health, he may be no more qualified to render advice than I am. In fact, he may be a good deal less qualified.

I realize the AMA, of which some doctors are members, is a leftist organization. They hate guns. They love government-controlled health care. They love government control in general.

They promulgate many non-medical, leftist political opinions. I really have no interest in their opinion on any political issue, so long as I don’t have to listen to them.

But, we all need to remember this:

Any and all conversations you have with your doctor are not “protected.” Contents of any conversation you have with your doctor can be penetrated by our criminal-justice system. That is, your doctor can be legally compelled to reveal the contents of any conversation you had with him, on any subject, in any forum, and at any time.

In order to help you, of course, your doctor often has to ask personal questions of a medical nature that are relevant to your health, and your own best interests are probably served by answering these questions.

Understood!

But, when your doctor asks you whom you voted for in the last election, or about the church you attend, or how many guns you own, or other irrelevant questions about your personal, political, or religious beliefs, I for one, become very ill at ease.

I respond with something like this:

“Doctor, with all due respect, your non-medical questions are making me very uncomfortable.

I will therefore decline to answer all irrelevant questions about my personal life, politics, religion, guns I may or may not own, etc.

All that is, frankly, none of your business.”

I’m not sure I know how to make it any more polite than that.

Guns you may own, like places you travel, people you know, your political opinions, etc, are not subjects you should discuss casually, nor with people you don’t know well, nor particularly with people who don’t need to know.

We’re living in a dangerous time. You must protect yourself from all kinds of threats.

Sometimes, information itself can become a threat.

“To do evil, a human being must first believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek ‘justification’ for his actions.

Macbeth’s self-justifications were feeble, and his conscience devoured him. Yes, even Iago was a little lamb too. The imagination and the spiritual strength of Shakespeare’s evil-doers stopped at a dozen corpses.

Because they had no ideology.

Ideology, that is what gives evil-doing its long-sought justification and gives the evil-doer necessary steadfastness and determination. This is the ‘social theory’ which helps to make his acts seem good instead of bad in his own and others’ eyes, so that he won’t hear reproaches and curses, but will receive praise and honors.

Thanks to ideology, the Twentieth Century was fated to experience evil-doing on a scale calculated in the murder of millions!

This cannot be denied, nor passed-over, nor suppressed.

How, then, do we dare insist that evil-doers do not exist?

Who was it that destroyed these millions?

Without evil-doers, there would have been no Archipelago.” ~ From “The Gulag Archipelago,” by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

/John

Defense Training International, Inc

About John Farnam & Defense Training International, Inc
As a defensive weapons and tactics instructor John Farnam will urge you, based on your own beliefs, to make up your mind in advance as to what you would do when faced with an imminent lethal threat. You should, of course, also decide what preparations you should make in advance if any. Defense Training International wants to make sure that their students fully understand the physical, legal, psychological, and societal consequences of their actions or in-actions.

It is our duty to make you aware of certain unpleasant physical realities intrinsic to the Planet Earth. Mr. Farnam is happy to be your counselor and advisor. Visit: www.defense-training.com

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It is a sad thing, but the medical group that my doctor belongs to, that owns all the hospitals and medi centers around, called Mercy Health Partners, was originally a Catholic organization. And so I have been asked a few times by various doctors about guns. One was a female PA, who was doing an intake of my information before I saw the doctor. She said, reading the list of questions on the paper, ” Do you own any guns? That is no ones business, so I am going to put no.” I immediately fell in love with her. I… Read more »

Reltney McFee
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Reltney McFee

Should I be asked, my response would be a faux-horrified “What!?! How could you imagine that I would own one of those horrible things?!?”

*no lie, I did not deny owning a gun
* did not confront my way into a discoverable notation on my chart
* did not answer an unnecessarily intrusive question.

TexDan
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TexDan

I personally have never met a Doctor that even asked about this, in a derogatory way. One of my Doctors even introduced me to USPSA. Of course he had top of the line everything, rolled his own ammo and my Gosh what a pistol he had. I never even have had this problem in the VA, my Doc there speaks at length to me about guns and religion, what types I prefer, versus his preferred carry and what different passages within the Bible mean to him. Great discussions all. Dump those communists you are seeing and find a pro-American Doctor,… Read more »

James Higginbotham
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James Higginbotham

i had a doctor ask me that some years ago.
and i told him IT WAS NONE OF HIS FKING BUSINESS.
and i FIRED him before my next appt, and i also DON’T LIKE NOSEY NEIGHBORS OR GOVT BUSY BODIES.

Kim Stolfer
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Kim Stolfer

I am a transplant survivor in PA. My routine response, when asked by a doctor about guns, is to answer his/her question with one of my own; OK doctor, so when was the last time you had sex?? The response is priceless and the topic is ALWAYS dropped after I tell them that my guns are NONE of your business as is the last time you had sex none of mine! It’s worked every time I’ve used it!! Some laugh and nod and some get pissed but I DON’T CARE! I can rent another doctor who will look just like… Read more »

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

@American Patriot: LMAO… I can’t imagine life without my tentioning screw.

Hint: Call the mfg co they send stuff like that out @no cost. Like Galco, Safariland, Hank’s Belts, Horus etc, etc.

A.X. Perez
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A.X. Perez

A doctor is entitled to make the following comments about firearms, maybe even hand out pamphlets saying what is below. I can think of no other comments he should make. 1. Use appropriate eye and er protection when shooting. 2. Shoot, clean your guns, and reload ammunition (especially if you cast your own bullets), in a well ventilated area. 3. Wash your hands thoroughly after shooting and cleaning firearms and reloading ammunition. 4. Do not use firearms when intoxicated. BTW, I am of the opinion this pamphlet should just be handed out with the pamphlets, on tobacco use, safe sex,… Read more »

American Patriot
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American Patriot

Seems to me some of you want to be way too polite. If you’re doc asks about guns you ask him (since we’re getting personal) if he’s gay & proceed to ask how many d!*ks he sucks in a week or how many times he’s been butt F**ked, then see how fast he STFU.

The only question my VA doc has ask (after seeing my empty holster) is where can he find a tentioning screw he lost on his holster.

American Patriot
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American Patriot

Doctor’s are not entitled to make any comments about guns to patients, just like patients are not entitled to answer any questions not related to the nature of the visit. It’s a medical visit…Not a social visit.

Ceefour
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Ceefour

Those antigun “people” would be horrified if they know just many gun owners were in the medical profession.

Yogi Bear
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Yogi Bear

I feel no need to be “PC’ when asked about guns by my now ex-doctor. My first move is to state “That is none of your business!” My second move is to find a new doctor.

Don Baker
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Don Baker

If your doctor gets aggressive with you on the gun issue, make a complaint to his licensing board. If he refuses to see you over the gun issue, make a complaint for patient abandonment to the licensing board. Also complain to the hospital administrators.

willy d
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willy d

Just remember that they bury their mistakes ,and only have a license to practice medicine!

Macofjack
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Macofjack

Sorry doctors have a practice because they have gotten it right yet! Never been asked and don’t think I will in MO, but if I do I state that it is none of their business if I have guns!

Gerry
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Gerry

I’ve been to a lot of doctors and I’ve never once been questioned like this. Hell, my former family doctor would spend more time with me talking about his guns (and mine) than we would about my reason for going in.

Richard L
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Richard L

I, myself, have hound that if such a question is raised and you express yourself as it is none of their damn business, I have been informed that they, doctors and their ilk, will take that as a: Yes. Nice, Huh.

Joel
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Joel

That’s odd. My (now retired) Rheumatologist was also a gun owner.

TxDoc
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TxDoc

I’m a doctor (retired gas passer) and because of my vast schooling, my deep understanding of the human condition, and my almost papal infallibility, I know my thoughts and words carry the weight of revealed truth. After taking care of literally hundreds of GSW’s, stabbings, blunt instrument injuries (Ben Taub Hospital, Houston, TX late 80’s), I realized, “Shit! I better get one or two; maybe three.

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

Remember purchasing firearms for self-defense, hunting, sport and/or as investments can be addicting. The first purchase is only outdone by the next.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@TxDoc, Your words do have the clear ring of truth. I hope that you got some training with that well considered firearm, too! And welcome to the site.

David Nagel
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David Nagel

The last time I talked with my doctor about guns it was to compare our respective carry types.

Kenny Smith
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Kenny Smith

What a small world, the last time I talked to my doctor about guns we discussed the same thing !

Charlie
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Charlie

My Doctor actually carries a Sig 9mm. He showed it to me, and we had a good discussion about CC!

Bill D. Wahl
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Bill D. Wahl

It’s called the “halo effect”; people having expertise in one field of specialty or celebrity status or wealth somehow feel qualified to speak authoritatively about matters outside of their area of expertise/training. Like four out of five dentists think Trump should be impeached. Okay . . . whatever, doc. Stick to overcharging folks for your worthless diagnosis and that scrip I’m not going to get filled.

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

…and here I thought that the most dangerous things were commiecrats with high security clearances?!