Knife-Wielding Man Attacks Driver, Causes Greyhound Bus To Crash

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USA –-(Ammoland.com)- FOX TV 2 & 32 reported 08-20-18 in Fountain, Colorado, a Greyhound bus headed to Denver crashed about 7 p.m. on northbound Interstate 25 close to the South Academy overpass.

Police said a 47-year-old passenger was threatening the driver and the other 26 passengers with a knife.

He gained access into the secured area of the bus and tried to attack the driver while purposely grabbing the steering wheel. That caused the bus to veer off the highway and crash.

Another passenger confronted the attacker and he then chose to break out a window and jump from the bus apparently trying to escape.

After getting away from the bus, the knife wielder was confronted by a passerby, who was armed with a gun.

Upon seeing the armed citizen’s firearm, the suspect dropped the knife and surrendered. He remained at the scene until law enforcement arrived.

The attacker was booked into the El Paso County Jail and has been charged with felony criminal mischief, hindering public transportation, felony menacing with a weapon, assault and reckless endangerment.

Comments:

Another instance of an armed citizen being at the right place at the right time. Law Enforcement is rarely present when violent crimes take place as most criminals and mental cases tend to commit their crimes when the cops are not around.

No one on the bus was armed of course due to Greyhound rules. I ran into that policy when I was in college. I assume their rules are still the same.

We are all aware how unarmed victims make easy targets.

This passerby appears to have stopped at the bus “accident” to help and discovered it was actually a crime in progress.

His quick thinking and ability to carry his firearm probably saved a lot of lives.

Bob Irwin
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  • 13 thoughts on “Knife-Wielding Man Attacks Driver, Causes Greyhound Bus To Crash

    1. @Tionico, I once heard a guy say, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”?

      I’m pretty sure that you would find enough legal support in a jury trial bottle against anyone if you happen to be the Lone Ranger and stepped up and prevented a Slaughter of any type. You would be a hero… you would end up hitchhiking to your next destination but you would be a hero in the family members of those that you would have saved I am sure would have been very grateful. Not only that but I am positive that the Patriot Community would step up to the plate just like they are doing with Cody Wilson of Defense Distributes and his 191st and 292nd Amendment battle with some 11 states and a worthless judge.

    2. A change in Greyhound policy, to allow passengers with a LTC is sorely needed.
      In the alternative, Greyhound drivers, should be allowed to be armed like Airline Pilots.
      ICC and a National Concealed Carry Permit should be given. Good inn all 50 States, territories & possessions of the USA.
      RETIRED LEOS are allowed such a permit under LEOSA 218 as signed by Bush 43.
      The bus company, supported by the ridership, should have final say of course, BUTT, if the passengers demand the change, the company should implement it without further delay, in the wake of this incident.

      1. Greyhound will never do that because of the cost of and the Insurance liability that they would have to carry in each of the 50 states would far outweigh the purpose of even being in business. Not to mention what would happen when families would get together and sue holy hell out of the company if an innocent passenger gets shot. Then you have a problem with the DOJ, assuming that it would be okay to have armed citizens traveling and acting as militia for the bus company and that’s just a name a few of the problems that would crop up. How does that saying go? “The road to hell is paved with good intention.”?

        1. I guess the SAME argument(s) apply to Airline Pilots/Airlines as they are regulated as common carriers as well. Wonder why they are allowed to carry a handgun on the Flight Deck? Wake up, straddle the Old Grey Dog, and see for yourself what a difference it makes. I know several drivers, yrs ago whom used to carry a handgun in their bag.

          My dad was shop foreman for Bowen Motor Coach, before it became Continental Trailways, in Tulsa Ok. during the Depression. He said most of the drivers carried then also. When he was Shop Superintendent for Southwestern Greyhound in Dallas later, in the early thirties, it was the same story.

          Some people would prefer to “hire it done”, or jump behind someone with a gun, when things go bad.
          This story illistrates what can happen.

          “Leave The Driving, Carrying & Shooting To Us.”

    3. We need to know if this knife wielding putz was an illegal alien or not. What is his race as this might be a factor. It’s all in the fine print. Since the left tries to use “statistics” (false ones at best) knowing who this person is will put into another statistic, maybe one the left CAN’T use in their never ending attempt to take our guns away.

    4. What is the “secured area” on a bus? I’ve never seen drivers in cages unless something has changed.

      1. Last year I did take trot on the Grey Dawg. Nowasays the driver (“operator”) is in a sort of clear plastic safety cage, not completely closed off, but enough of a barrier to prevent most harrassment or untoward action against the driver. Of course, a determined person can, and as we see, did, perpetrate harm in spite of that barrier. Just more Security Theatre.

        And yes, Bot Irwin, Greyhound policy continues to disarm passengers, and now even prohibits the carrying of firearms in secured and checked baggage riding in the secure hold below the passenger deck. Having thoroughly researched protocols and practices, my carry gun was secured in my suitcase, just as if it were going on to an airliner. No consequences. I very nearly carried it in its proper place, and after three such rides in Georgia, feel I could easily carry it off.
        But then, what if a creep such as this one began to ply his knife? Would I let him, or would I draw and subdue him, facing the consequences of being “illegaly armed on a bus”? This crash seems to not have been too serious. But I’ll wager where were plenty of other places along that highway where, had it gone that far off the road, it would have been tragic.
        I suppose it would eventually fall to the laws in whatever state you happened to be in. I am fairly certain Georgia would not have charged me, had I used the gun to end a crime such as this. Colorado, not sure. Washington, probablny no problem, as in Texas ,Utah, Idaho, Montana…. but Illinois, New Joisey, California, Maryland, New York….. but then, who in their right mond would ride a bus in those states anyway, being so lawless.

        1. @Tionico, I once heard a guy say, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”?

          I’m pretty sure that you would find enough legal support in a jury trial bottle against anyone if you happen to be the Lone Ranger and stepped up and prevented a Slaughter of any type. You would be a hero… you would end up hitchhiking to your next destination but you would be a hero in the family members of those that you would have saved I am sure would have been very grateful. Not only that but I am positive that the Patriot Community would step up to the plate just like they are doing with Cody Wilson of Defense Distributes and his 191st and 292nd Amendment battle with some 11 states and a worthless judge.

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