Reasons to Not Get Your Concealed Carry Permit

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U.S.A. -(Ammoland.com)- You’ve finally convinced me. You’re right. You shouldn’t get your concealed carry permit.

We’ve all heard the justifications. I was going to call them bad reasons or excuses, but that is judgemental. I’ll simply present the justifications we hear for not getting a concealed carry permit. You can decide for yourself if they are good reasons or bad.

  • You don’t need to carry concealed because the police exist just to protect you.
  • You don’t need a defensive tool because your significant other will always be there to ensure your personal security.
  • Don’t get your carry permit now. Instead, you should wait for the politicians to pass constitutional carry in your state..and don’t travel to other states where you’d need a permit.
  • You know other people who break the law and carry without a permit, so you should go ahead and do that too.  They say that being a felon isn’t as bad as it used to be.
  • You don’t want to get on a government list. In fact, you should probably stop giving money to the church, turn all your guns into the police, drop your membership in the NRA and change your political affiliation to Independent. While you’re at it, cancel your magazine subscriptions and close your social media accounts. Hmm. You’re still listed as a property owner so you should probably sell your house and live out of your car.
  • You’re way too busy to get your your permit.
  • You don’t need a gun because you’d never want to hurt anyone. I mean, your family and friends aren’t really that important to you, are they?
  • You don’t need a carry permit because you never open your doors or step outside your home.
  • You should go ahead and be the victim of violent crime rather than pay that nasty old fee for a concealed carry permit.
  • Besides, you’ve studied the tradeoffs, and a carry permit is way more expensive than health insurance.
  • You should refuse to defend yourself just so you won’t have to give the government another copy of your fingerprints.  There. That showed them who’s the boss.
  • Don’t get your concealed carry permit just so you can avoid all that paperwork.
  • Now that you ask, it isn’t the extra 15 pounds you’re carrying around, it is the gun that make you look fat.
  • Don’t get your concealed carry permit until you buy at least a dozen more guns.
  • Don’t get your carry permit until your spouse has taken training too.
  • Maybe you shouldn’t get your permit at all since your spouse doesn’t like guns.
  • Don’t carry concealed. That way your family doesn’t have to worry if they throw you a surprise party.
  • You don’t need your carry permit because you live in a safe neighborhood that criminals can’t find.
  • You don’t want a permit because that way the police will leave you alone.

..And if you believe those, then you probably shouldn’t have your permit.

I gave you 500 words, and fortunately none of them were mine. I hope you laughed as much as I did. What noteworthy excuses justifications have you heard?


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About Rob Morse

The original article is here.  Rob Morse writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob is an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.

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Given the issue that has transpired within the last week, it seems it is necessary to elaborate on this. My initial comment on this page questioned the Author Rob Morse and his motivations for writing this article. At other times he has written informative fact based pieces, some of which have appeared here at ammoland and to which I have cited as reference. Usually, he is a very well worded and informed author. My transgression appears to have been that I dared to question Mr. Morse about his supposed bone to pick with some individuals who being more aligned with… Read more »

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@Rob Morse. Having read through this article, and noticing several of the other places for which you write is included Clash Daily, I have a question I would like to pose to you shortly. Considering that individual rights are practiced on an individual basis by the self determination of those to whom they apply. Knowing a little about one of the founding men of Clash Daily, here you go. Do you realize that being offended by the mere prospect that some people may have different opinions than you in this country qualifies you as being a “Crispin”? Of course, there… Read more »

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Revelator, his commentary was not condescending, unless you are a “Progressive Liberal Democrat”, aka Socialist. Unfortunately, his “reasons” were true to life. Sadly you didn’t get that, nor his humor, and resorted to what you posted in reply, further confirming what he was obtusely referencing in his commentary.

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@ Heed the Call-up No, I got it. Re-read the thing twice just to be sure, and understood the inconsistencies and hypocrisy quite well. If you will allow me to Explain. My reply was made in the same condescending manner which could be called “Humor”, or in other cases “hyperbole” as a sarcastic talking down towards attitude. Just so we are clear here, I meant it to be that way. I wanted to give Rob the possibility of being offended, just as there are those out there who will be with what he wrote. Personally, I’m not offended, but I… Read more »

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@Heed the Call-up Ok, This is the second response to keep this much shorter. I hope you will wait to reply to my question for you until after the first has been put up. Q~ IF SOMEONE CLAIMS TO BE ON THE RIGHT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND THE CONSTITUTION, AND THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS THEY WERE CREATED TO PROTECT….. WHAT ARE THEY WHEN THEIR ACTIONS DON’T MATCH THEIR WORDS? I truly honestly want to hear your genuine answer to that question. Not Sarcasm, not avoidance. A real Answer. You see there is an old saying.. “Men… Read more »

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Revelator, again, I did not read any condescension in his commentary. Obviously you believe you did. I am not “hunting monsters”, but you clearly are/were in your post. My post does not comport to “wrong doing” nor “moral certitude”. Your post does confirm his commentary, whether or not you wish to believe it. His commentary is irreverent, but not condescending. I believe you chose the wrong words for what you mean/believe about his commentary. I do not see where his commentary means he does not believe in the Constitution nor our rights as guaranteed by said document. Your verbosity has… Read more »

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@Heed the call-up. It doesn’t help your argument to try and dismiss someone for the length of their posts. The descriptors of “Long and disjointed”, “Verbosity”, and “Confusing” are attempts to discredit and dismiss either myself or a point I am making at the time with no substance behind what you are saying. If I may explain. You use the pronouns “I” and “Me” when attempting to dismiss my comments. This is what you called “Point of view” otherwise known as perception. That means so far you have used only your personal opinion. Your opinion does not constitute fact. Neither… Read more »

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The Revelator, too articulate? That’s funny. No, someone with good communication skills is able to convey simple points in less than half the 827 words you used in your first two replies, and the 419 in you last reply. You asked for my opinion, I gave it. The lack of substance was in your posts. If there were something of relevance, it would not have taken you 800+ words to get to your point. I haven’t tried to discredit you, I just did not agree with your original assessment of his commentary. I didn’t dismiss your comments, only found that… Read more »

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@Heed the call-up @ Heed the call-up Ok, I think you took my last 2 comments as an attack on you. It was not intended as such. I’ll try to explain point by point, and quoting the sections of your response to directly explain. 1. “My post does not comport to “wrong doing” nor “moral certitude”. Your post does confirm his commentary, whether or not you wish to believe it.” a. the moral certitude comment was not leveled at you. All it means is that when people believe they are morally right in their opinions, they will justify or excuse… Read more »

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@Heed the call up Seems as though you couldn’t wait for the second to follow. Just so we are clear to quote. “it took you a circuitous 800+ words to get to nowhere.” That is a dismissal. “Even my second post was less than half the words you used to reply to me.” Well you don’t need many words when it isn’t evidence based. Again, your opinion is not fact. “There is no need for me to post another reply to your initial argument. I was quite clear in both my initial post and my later reply. Secondly, my post… Read more »

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@Heed the Call-up. This is to explain the last comment you made, and my just now reply. “I know we both post here, and I apologize that I may have been too brusque in my reply to you. I don’t wish to fight with you over this. This thread and the commentary have little value to me to spend so much time replying to you. We need to use our time to fight those that are assaulting our rights, not fight with each other. Our rights are much more important than bruised egos or feelings.” This was the last paragragh… Read more »

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The Revelator, “[w]e don’t just defend our rights, we defend everyone’s rights”. Just another example of how you don’t seem to understand the written word. “Our” rights, as defined by the “our”, is everyone’s rights, that is those that are living in the USA and are lawfully allowed to be here or protected by those rights as we are. The last paragraph of my last post, is, as the other posts and statements, what I believe. I would not have written it otherwise. Again, look at the verbosity of your replies to me. Again, if you were as literate and… Read more »

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@ Heed the call up My apologies for the late response. Had some Family medical issues that needed to be taken care of. First, Let us start with a couple double standards your last comment set up. 1. “I gave you an out by apologizing.” An apology is not made by offering a left handed comment first. The dual nature of your response is why I separated my response to it into two parts, first to demonstrate that tone and aggression can be conveyed quite easily through text, and second because the last paragraph showed exactly the issue that my… Read more »

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walter kelly

Write your Congressman or Congresswoman, House and Senate representative and let them know: In 2008 the Heller decision made clear what it meant to bear arms. Scalia quoted Justice Ginsburg’s writing in a previous case. From cornell.edu Justice Ginsburg wrote that “[s]urely a most familiar meaning is, as the Constitution’s Second Amendment … indicate[s]: ‘wear, bear, or carry … upon the person or in the clothing or in a pocket, for the purpose … of being armed and ready for offensive or defensive action in a case of conflict with another person.’ ” “..in the clothing or in a pocket”… Read more »

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Every citizen of this Nation should go back and study our Nation’s history from it’s beginning, especially the American Revolution. We did not gain our freedom on July 04, 1776, we declared our independence from Great Britain on that day, and the war against them lasted between twelve and thirteen years. Of course, Great Britain continued to cause us problems for many more years thereafter. The history of the American Revolution is painful to read because of the brutal conditions of our situation, and the merciless British troops. Anyone who has doubts about the need for the 2nd Amendment should… Read more »

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

Some might argue far longer than the 1790’s to finally end the revolution ,UNSHACKLING AMERICA
How the War of 1812 Truly Ended the American Revolution
by Willard Sterne Randall

I would recommend it to any US history buff

No name
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No name

N.J. citizens have no one to blame but themselves for electing the DEMORATS!!!
DEMORATS AND LIBERALS ARE THE RUINATION OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY FOR EVERY TRUE AMERICAN CITIZEN

Crichard
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Crichard

My permit is my 2nd amendment.

Lee Waddell
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Lee Waddell

Absolutely great article, I live in Canada and wish we could get a carry permit. Only a few can, pilots that fly remote areas and some northern miners. Our government is try now to remove hand guns and military firearms. Im so glad that the citizens of USA fight for their rights. Good on all of you…God Bless…

Edward Weber
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Edward Weber

Thank you for the ‘God Bless”. Canadians have the same RIGHTS as we have in America concerning the right of self defense. Our RIGHTS come from God,,,not from our government. The 2nd Amendment didn’t give us the RIGHTS,,,it is an admonition to the government not to infringe on our God given RIGHTS. If Canadians would stand together and TELL their government that they cannot infringe on your rights maybe you would feel better about carrying for protection against bad guys AND your government.

Gregory Romeu
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Gregory Romeu

Just step up and demand your rights. Your fellow Canadians travel around the globe and fought and so many wars to maintain peace and democracy or to inject democracy and then you come home to this? Maybe it’s time Canada had their own Revolution, Eh?

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Lee Waddel, Everyone in Canada that wants to carry should suddenly become a pilot that flies to remote areas or a northern miner. If I had a northern mine I would, for a small fee, hire you so that you could tell the truth on your application. If I were a pilot that flies to remote areas, I could do the same.

Gregory Romeu
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Gregory Romeu

Check Ebay for some mines to purchase then sell “partnerships”.

Charles Moore
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Charles Moore

WHY does everybody keep saying/thinking that we need National Carry Reciprocity legislation??? Has anyone looked at the Constitution? Putting aside, for the moment, that ALL STATES (and the Federal government) are supposed to be bound and obligated under the Bill of Rights: Article 4, section 1 is why your drivers license has to be honored by every state (virtually every other COUNTRY recognizes them). This section would also, without a doubt, require every state to accept your concealed carry permit — or the lack of a requirement to need one. Section 2 states that citizens from the various states, while… Read more »

Gregory Romeu
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Gregory Romeu

The problem is getting anyone with backbone to hallenge the state(s) where they would get caught, and/or garner a legal team to mount that battle… I’m game, but I just haven’t run across any LEOS that would be the one(s) to start that particular ball rolling? (Getting stopped, searched or challenged.)

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Charles Moore, As you correctly suspect, it is because all thee co-equally corrupt branches of our federal government and all the states are ignoring the preemptive nature of our American Constitutionally enshrined Civil Rights.
Under Trump, we have a once in a life time chance to change things by changing legislators.

A.X. Perez
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A.X. Perez

By my reckoning an HCL serves two purposes. It’s useful as picture ID (such as voting) and it is a proclamation that you have accepted the responsibility of self defense and to defend others if necessary. Arguably when it comes to bearing arms right and responsibility are frequently synonymous.

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

I’ve found that most female bank tellers get more chatty and friendly when I use it for ID cashing checks.

John W Bletsch
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John W Bletsch

Someone asked me if I was armed. My answer was am I dressed? I pay the state tax for a permit
T and carry 24/7.

Eddie
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Eddie

Look them in the eye and say, under your breath, “Can you keep a secret?” Person nods yes. Say, “Me, too. Have a nice day.”

Jimmy James
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Jimmy James

Thankfully l live in a state where CCL’s are issued. Paradoxically, this Left Coast state has people who want voters to ban semi-auto firearms. I have a CCL but rarely carry. I work in a employer mandated gun free zone but customers can open carry there. Maybe that should be on the list. “I don’t have a CCL cuz l can’t carry at work”. Outside of that, it’s all a matter of choice for whatever reason(s).

There’s nothing wrong with being an “independent”
That’s a choice, too!

JD
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JD

I also work in a “gun free” (state govt) office building, so my carry gun stays in a lockbox in my glove compartment. Ironically, the policy that prevents me from carrying a firearm at work was mandated by the same state govt that issued my concealed carry permit. Go figure.

phil morris
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phil morris

there is an old saying better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt , I sincerely hope you do not find my comment on the comment offenseive.

Patrick Berry
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Patrick Berry

My mailbox is the nexus of TWELVE drug free zones. In the past ten years of owning this home, and property, more than a dozen drug dealers/users have been convicted, and ordered to never get caught here. Some were family members of neighbors. I met many neighbors when I moved in, and, educated many transients that I do not judge others, but, through my life of 71 years, raised in the Air Force, and then a career Vietnam Veteran, I have abstained. So, I educated everyone I have met, that the K-9 officers who exercise their dogs in the huge… Read more »

jJustista
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jJustista

“You don’t want to get on a government list In fact, you should probably stop giving money to the church, turn all your guns into the police, drop your membership in the NRA and change your political affiliation to Independent. While you’re at it, cancel your magazine subscriptions and close your social media accounts. Hmm. You’re still listed as a property owner so you should probably sell your house and live out of your car.” Well? I don’t want to have to be put on a list to exercise a constitutional right. After the first nine words in the above… Read more »

Gregory Romeu
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Gregory Romeu

You were pretty much put on a government lost when 1) You received a birth certificatecate and 2) Recieves your social security card, and 3) When you entered school. 4) Got your driver’S license, 6) Registered your vehicle, 7) Safety Inspected your vehicle, 8) Bought insurance, 9) Got a,job and filed an S-9 or a W-2.. I could go on…

Mark
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Mark

Having a CCW permit is an INFRINGEMENT upon the 2A right to bear arms in any manner you choose, whether it be Open or Concealed Carry!

CoosaTotahK9
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CoosaTotahK9

Sorry Rob, I’m not laughing. For the mindset of many people out there in today’s world the reasons, uh excuses, you have listed are are all to “right on the money”. In my state only 2% of the total population has a concealed carry permit. The other 98% live by your listed excuses! Sad state of affairs, but, it is the world of ignorant psychologically twisted, inside out upside down people that we live in today.

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

I liked this reason, “You don’t need your carry permit because you live in a safe neighborhood that criminals can’t find.” I live in one of those neighborhoods, right near a school, which, of course is a drug-free/gun-free zone. I came home one day to an officer in my side yard inspecting my neighbor’s fence that was broken, apparently by two vehicles. A small scale that the officer stated is typically used in illegal drug sales was found in my yard near the broken fence. My side yard is where my driveway is. Something clearly occurred to make them flee… Read more »

Bob Koceja
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Bob Koceja

“I only carry when I think I’ll be traveling in a bad neighborhood” So, do you only have car insurance when you think
you’ll have an accident?

CDN Gunner
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CDN Gunner

Are there no stock photos of some one in Lee jeans or khakis? Why show anti-gun company Levi”s?

Buddy
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Buddy

You forgot, “If you have a gun, they will shoot you first.”

Mike
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Mike

I live in a good neighborhood but some drud addict came in the dead of night and stole my expensive trek bike. I was not awake and did not catch drug addict.

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

Yeah,I was born with mine.

John
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John

Good comment. How many infringement are too many?

Quatermain
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Quatermain

I won’t get one because I live in Idaho . I carry when and where I like, so i don’t need one. When I visit other states I do so under LEOSA. You forgot to those reasons..

Thunderfoot
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Thunderfoot

Hopefully that will soon be a national law, with the states that are UNITED on the 2nd amendment rights anyway. Let those states that deprive their citizens of their legal right to own and carry a firearm (even if it is carried just in the console or glovebox of their vehicle) deal with the statistics obtainable to anyone who wants that information. And I might add good luck to the states that are protecting their criminals by denying citizens their right to protect their families and others from the armed thugs that know they will meet much less resistance in… Read more »

OldProf49
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OldProf49

While your “reasons” and the dripping sarcasm behind them are humorous and mildly entertaining, your article misses or avoids the real reason some people have for not owning guns, carrying concealed, getting proper defensive training, etc. I believe some of these serious reasons are 1) they just don’t like (or possibly fear) guns, 2) they don’t believe they could ever use a gun in self defenses.i.e.injure or kill another person, 3) they don’t want to face the possibility that violence may find them, 4) they have personal and/or religious beliefs that prohibit violence, even in defense of themselves or their… Read more »

Ugly95
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Ugly95

Mr. Morse, you mock yet there are plenty of people such as myself stuck in states like New Jersey that can not get permits. Out of 9 million people there are less than 2,000 permits issued by the state. No we will not just leave the state. What happens in New Jersey does not stay in New Jersey, this plague spreads. We will not surrender, we will not retreat, we will not quit, we will fight on. Even though I may disagree with you on this article keep up the good work I look forward to reading your next piece.

Darkman
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Darkman

Many of the Jews said the same thing in Nazi Germany. How’d That work for them? If you can’t protect what is yours…It was never really yours to begin with.

HankB
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HankB

I bet if you donated $25,000 to the campaign fund of the RIGHT politician you’d be able to get a permit . . .

cambeul41
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cambeul41

Ugly95 —

Morse mocks those who choose not to get a permit/license, not those that do not need (constitutional carry states) or residents of those states such as NJ whose laws deny them their natural rights to the means to defend one’s self.

grim reaper
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grim reaper

I think the article is suppose to give credence to the reason you should ,if able, to get a CCP and not that mocks people who don’t or can’t get a permit. These are the real reasons for constitutional carry needs so states like NY, NJ,Md, Ca can no longer deny people their constitutional right to protect themselves.

Starfire06
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Starfire06

I live in Kansas (Constitutional Carry) and still my wife and I got our CHLs mainly because our daughter lives in Texas. Until ALL states are Constitutional Carry I will maintain my CHL.

Gregory Romeu
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Gregory Romeu

Yeah, besides, it just gets in the way of all that FREEDOM and Liberty stuff!

lars1139
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lars1139

Well said. That, of course, is the main reason “they” want everyone disarmed.