Are the Saudi Princes True Friends?

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Are the Saudi Princes True Friends?

USA – -( The 633-word statement of President Donald Trump on the Saudi royals' role in the grisly murder of Washington Post contributor Jamal Khashoggi is a remarkable document, not only for its ice-cold candor.

The president re-raises a question that has roiled the nation since Jimmy Carter: To what degree should we allow idealistic values trump vital interests in determining foreign policy?

On the matter of who ordered the killing of Khashoggi, Trump does not rule out the crown prince as the prime suspect:

“King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning or execution of the murder… (but) it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge.”

Yet, whether MBS did or didn't do it, the Saudis have “agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States.” And a full fourth of that is for “military equipment from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and other great U.S. defense contractors.”

“Foolishly” cancel these contracts, warns Trump, and Russia or China will snap them up. Moreover, the Saudis have agreed to pump oil to keep prices down.
Trump is unabashedly putting U.S. economic and strategic interests first. He is not going to damage our relationship with Riyadh and its royal family, even if the future king ordered a cold-blooded killing of a U.S.-based Saudi journalist he regarded as an enemy.

The stark manner in which Trump framed the issue will force the members of Congress of both parties to decide whether they wish to defy Trump, sanction the Saudis and risk the relationship.

Other contentions in Trump's statement suggest that one of the reasons he is giving the crown prince a pass on the Khashoggi killing is that he sees MBS as an indispensable ally against our real enemy in the region.

After his introductory line, Trump goes into a tear that begins: “The country of Iran… is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen.”
But is this true?

In 2015, it was on the orders of Mohammad bin Salman, then defense minister, that Saudi Arabia intervened in the civil war in Yemen, after Houthi rebels in the north overthrew a Saudi puppet and overran much of the rest of the country.

It is not Iran but Saudi Arabia and the UAE, with U.S. munitions and logistic support, whose troops, bombs and blockade are responsible for the thousands of causalities in Yemen and the millions who suffer from cholera, malnutrition, and starvation.

It is not the Iranians who are trying to close the last port of entry for humanitarian aid for the suffering civilian population.

Iran, said Trump, is “propping up dictator Bashar Assad in Syria (who has killed millions of his own citizens)… Likewise, the Iranians have killed many Americans and other people throughout the Middle East.”

But the cause of the 7,000 U.S. military dead in the Middle East in this century, and the 60,000 wounded are the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that were launched by the United States and George Bush, not by Iran.

As for U.S. civilian casualties, the 3,000 we lost in that monstrous atrocity of 9/11 were the victims of 15 Saudi terrorists, not Iranians.

While Iran has aided its Shiite allies in Iraq, and those allies have fought Americans, the major terrorist organizations we fight today in the Near East, Middle East and Africa — al-Qaida and its affiliates, the Taliban, ISIS, Boko Haram, al-Shabaab — are all Sunni, like the Saudis.
These terrorist groups are Iran's enemies as well as ours.

“Our paramount goal,” Trump declared in his statement, “is to fully eliminate the threat of terrorism throughout the world.”

But this objective is every bit as utopian as George W. Bush's second inaugural where he declared the “ultimate goal” of U.S. foreign policy to be “ending tyranny in our world.”

Terrorism and tyranny have been with mankind forever, and they will be with mankind forever.

Trump both titled and concluded his statement “America First.”

And had an America First policy been pursued in this century, we would not today be tied down in these forever wars of the Middle East.
We would not have attempted to create a Western-style democracy in the wilds of Afghanistan. We would not have invaded Iraq or attacked Libya, or armed rebels to overthrow Assad, thereby igniting a war that has cost half a million Syrian lives and made refugees of millions.

In his statement, Trump praises Saudi Arabia as a “great ally in our very important fight against Iran.”

Yet, Iran has not attacked us, does not want war with us and remains in compliance with the nuclear treaty from which we walked away.
Trump is president because he promised to extricate us from the Mideast wars into which some of his closest advisers, along with some of our closest “allies,” helped to plunge his country.

Is President Trump about to replicate President Bush's folly?

About Patrick J. BuchananPat Buchanan

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.

  • 22 thoughts on “Are the Saudi Princes True Friends?

    1. There is nothing “royal” about the saudi “royal family”, it is a political entity created by the U.K. They were selected by being the most powerful group agreeing not to mess with u.k. business and profits. The brits never left the middle east, they just went underground. Any decisions, major or minor are ultimately made at #10. and implemented by the hole and corner work carried out by operatives belonging to the seven sisters operating under new names. Nothing happens in the middle east that could endanger profits without the approval of the state.

    2. When it comes to Arabs and Muslims, we should not get involved in their internal, internecine affairs. For heavens sake, leave them to themselves. Otherwise, we’re sure to regret it.

    3. Yes, I have to agree with Green Mountain Boy on the napkin on the head comment. I don’t think you dare trust anyone that has a book of religion that says if we won’t convert then kill us. The 911 murders were enough to prove who is not our forever friends. As far as Khashoggi is concerned, he was barking up the wrong tree and they silenced him. He was not an American citizen and I think he was a Saudi so why all the fuss over him. This kind of thing has been going on for ever in this world. The Russians did the same thing a few months ago but no one is talking about it any longer. It all comes back to the same idea, don’t piss off the guy in charge or he may get real mad at you and close your mouth for you.

    4. The only good thing about the Saudi royal family is that they keep the bat shit crazy Wahabbi muslim sect somewhat in check. If the royals ever lose power, the middle east will explode. And naturally, there will be trouble spread far and wide.

      Phil in TX

    5. It makes me wonder, if Jamal Khashoggi wasn’t a contributing writer for the Washington Post would there be as much hubbub raised about his death? Just sayin’.

      1. Why do we give a crap about Kashoggi even if he is a WP contributing writer. He is not American. How many Americans got killed the same week with nothing in the news. Think Chicago. My guess is the Democrats are just using this to try to derail something the Pres is trying to do. It makes absolutely no difference to America what happened to this guy.

        1. @WVB, Americans have lived in a successful Constitutional Republic, where Rights are respected, for so long that we have forgotten what it means to be subjects of a “king”. That “king owned” Kashoggi, like he owned a rug or a camel. Kashoggi was the property of the “king” to do with or do away with as the “king” pleased. That is why we got rid of “king” George and his minions in the first place.

    6. I wouldn’t trust the Saudis any further than i could throw them. Once the British left Saud Arabia its gone down hill. They are the ones who pushed 9/11, and the FBI has said that the Saudis build one mosque a month in America so Islamic Muslim extremist can come over here. As far as spending money in America they sure are. They are buying up our farm land and ranch lands and office buildings and newspapers often using some dummy companies so it cant be traced back to them. One of the survival magazines wrote at the rate Saudi Arabia is buying up land in America, in a 100 years they could own all private property in America! Do not trust the middle eastern Muslims, they hate all American Christians.
      American land for American citizens! Many foreign countries dont allow outsiders to buy up their farm lands!

      1. This is true. In the southwest, Saudis and other foreign investors buy large tracts of farmland then irrigate it with water from the Colorado river system. They compete with our own farms for the water sources, and the crops they raise, like hay, is shipped back to their country, no charges or tariffs. They save their own limited water resources, and we do not get the benefit to our own agriculture of at least making the sale at a profit.
        Our land, our water, our profits.
        The aquifers and watershed they deplete for free will be sorely missed down the road by our children and granchildren if not sooner. Water is the resource of the future, not oil.
        Would they let us come to their country, buy land at agricultural prices, then pump out the oil and ship it home, no charge?
        Sorry, I don’t see any wisdom by the great “Deal Maker” in any of this.

        1. Gentlemen, Not to worry, someday we will just nationalize it all, as so many other nations have done, then the federal government can sell it back to Americans.

    7. We are not getting out of any middle east war and to do so would start the chain of events over again. Starting with small hit and run bombings on U.S. & Allies bases and embassies.
      They will not stop, just go underground, mutate and morph into something more ugly.
      Keeping an eye on Venezuela would be wise as well.

      1. You are exactly right. I have worked in the Kingdom. The only important thing is money. As long as “they” get their 10% commission anything can be obtained. That includes ANYTHING.

    8. Our writer hits the nail on the head with a hammer of ‘principle’. We who are Oath Takers have woven in the fabric of our lives the goal reflecting the most fundamental ‘principles’ that all peoples seek, Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness. I opine that people hold a most favorable view of the USA because of our Bill of Rights with the resulting Liberty that escapes others. It is from this Bill of Rights, based on natural law, that Life is enriched because the power of the State is constrained and the Pursuit of Happiness is our motivation.

      If you allow me to move the issue of whether we should accept financial gain to trump principle then I would add that we should be most wary of this President and his agents as he and they actively diminish the integrity of the framework of our Constitution and the institutions of governance. In the parlance of Chief Justice Roberts to the factually incorrect responce by this President to a temporary injunction by a circuit court which held that executive orders do not and cannot overturn a law created by Congress; that our Judiciary is a co-equal & independent branch of our Constitution with the inference that partisan assertions without evidentiary support denigrates the INTEGRITY OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC of which I am a Oath Taker.

      Our problems are rooted with the creation of the Federal Reserve, the unchecked intelligence agencies by Congress, the removal of the gold standard of our dollar, the proliferation of monied interests that are buying our government representatives and agencies, the sunsetting of the Fairness Doctrine and the voiding of the Glass-Stegal act.

      We do not own our treasury and We do not experience transparency in governance. A demagogic responce is fraught with danger and uncertain consequences. The remedy is greater Civic presence from a local city council and school board to both State and Federal venues in whatever manner that one can afford.

      My overarching concern is that this President’s tweets is emboldening his self at the expence of our Constitutional institutions of governance and creating a militia, which has allegiance to him.

    9. Dear friends only in the same way that the enemy of my enemy is friends. They are the enemy of Iran so therefore they are friend in that way. But ultimately Islam is the enemy of civilization.

      1. @Brad, I concur. Nations don’t have friends. Nations have temporary allies. Sometimes long term, but temporary allies, never-the-less.

        1. Agreed. Pat is wrong on at least one point; Iran has not and is not abiding by the tenants of the nuclear treaty.

    10. Tagiyya – Tactical deceit for the purpose of of protecting and spreading Islam. It pretends to be a “moderate” form of Islam while denouncing Islamic terrorism and imperialism.
      Kitman – Deceit by omission (withholding KEY information)
      Tawriya – Deceit by ambiguity. (doublespeak, refusing to give straight answers, exploiting conflicts)
      These are used by muslims as a way to downplay the threat of Islam to the rest of the world.
      Joos also are allowed to lie to goyims (Caucasians) for the expressed purposes of expanding Judaism.
      Christianity and Buddhism are the only 2 “religions” I know of wherein lying is considered wrong and affront to God.

      1. Mark,
        You are completely wrong about Judaism.
        I am Jewish and went to Hebrew school as a child.
        I still practice Judaism.
        Lying is never condoned.
        You may be confused as “white lies” to keep family peace are permitted in some commentaries.
        If the bride is ugly, you are not commanded to tell the groom the truth.
        The ninth commandment against bearing false witness is pretty clear

    11. Maybe when they renounce Islam and confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Until then, they are but another tool to be used and then thrown away. The same as they consider us to be.

    12. Frankly I’m suspicious of anyone that wears a table napkin on ones head as to their intent and motive.

    13. Bush championed the Oil Shieks, and opened up America to the Saudis that committed 9/11. Afterwards he continued to cooperate with the very Saudis that funded the attcks and OPEC because they made Oil Men Bushs their fortunes.
      Saudi Muslims are not civilized and cover their discomfort or outright contempt for Christian America diplomatically.
      Diplomacy for America and American’s interest, I understand. Th fear that the Saudis would go to Russian and Chinese sphere of influence and Global politics, is elgit. However why have we not broken up the Global Oil Cabal, the lodnon’s Commodities Exchange, that adds two dollars to each barrel of oil or more, OPEC and so forth.
      Why are we selling our unrefined crude to the Cabal and buying finished fuels back?
      Why are we not building two or more new Refineries and chartering and aiding the establishment of American Energy Companies lie Sohio, who extracted, refined and marked their own fuels in America, at far lessccost to Americans and kept our economy number one? Why did our Government aid Exxon in Court make Sohio sell its oil to the Cabal and then buy back finished products…at much higher prices if they wanted to stay in business???

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