Time to End Birthright Citizenship

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Anchor Baby Birthright Citizenship

USA –-(Ammoland.com)- Time to End Birthright Citizenship.

Is it time to rip off the dirty diaper of birthright citizenship and reset the bar for the conveyance of citizenship passing only from U.S. citizen parents?

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    shane whyte
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    shane whyte

    I get sick and tired of reading these arguments they were talking about illegal vs legal citizenship not color not race if your parents are legal it makes you legal and and the same goes for being illegal makes the child illegal also. Stop allowing these idiots to take you guys off subject it’s the way they can make you not discuss the subject.

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @wild bill, it is not s deception. It is a REVELATION.
    When you reveal just how inane and assanine some of the perspectives ON BOTH SIDES can be, it may make someone’s perspectives broaden. Only by exposing hypocrisy, and foolishness can we discover TRUTH.

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @wild bill, I use a lot of names on this forum. I even have a profile that I pose as a white man. You ever heard of desmosthenes/locke character in ENDERS GAME ?
    Now you may understand .

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Nomad, I understand that you are running a deception. That is not very honest. Why bother to deceive when there is no profit in it? Is it in your nature to deceive just for your own entertainment.
    I don’t read novels much or study fictional characters.

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @wild bill, it is not s deception. It is a REVELATION.
    When you reveal just how inane and assanine some of the perspectives ON BOTH SIDES can be, it may make someone’s perspectives broaden. Only by exposing hypocrisy, and foolishness can we discover TRUTH.

    MacofJack
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    MacofJack

    @Nomad – yea we understand. You lie like be breath. Suck to be you!!

    Dave in Fairfax
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    Dave in Fairfax

    If it isn’t deception, regardless of what you say your intent is, why use multiple personas? It isn’t revelation, it’s deception to pretend to be different people. There are many people here, sometimes we agree, sometimes not, but most are honest in their statements and don’t pose as multiple sock puppets. I looked up your address, if it is indeed yours. You need to get a decent, honest job and leave the neighborhood. The boarded up houses and cemetery are a nice touch. Which makes me question your criminal status and your intent in being on this forum. If you… Read more »

    shane whyte
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    shane whyte

    Very well said I feel there is people out there paid to sift through the internet and make comments to break down American cohesion. Thanks again

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @wild bill I don’t want a peice of anyone, but if someone wants a peice of me I will gladly give them my location, and they can have at it. I travel all the time, in rural and urban places in this country. I am an American and a veteran, I will travel wherever I wish, without fear. My thing is, don’t talk tough shit because you don’t agree, or don’t like what I comment, not saying you did, but some of your contemporaries like to be keyboard tough guys. Whether you agree or not, my perspective about things is… Read more »

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    And yet @wild bill he served two terms as THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and reversed our course from another great depression and set the base for the economic gains of today. I know that conservatives fantasize about tRump reversing an economic decline in 1 year, but that is just that, A FANTASY. The other thing is once you realize what your current glorious leader has set you up for, you are going to want us to help you again. When conservatives realize that the current administration is made up of robber barons, that gave THEMSELVES the largest super… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Nomad, You write, “… once you realize what your current glorious leader has set you up for…” What do you think that we have been set up for?

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    President Trump, Republicans in Congress , and ScotUS, have made it legal to bribe elected officials through the citizens United campaign laws. This has effectively nullified our voting power. Elected officials now cater to the whims of the ultra rich. If you are repulsed by the actions of Soros, but not the Koch brothers, that proves you have drank the FOOL AID, and have willingly poisoned yourself. Politicians in many states have allowed policies that negatively impact pur communities, do that their corporate sponsors can make a buck. Can anyone show me these new jobs supposedly created by the tax… Read more »

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    Well @Tom Cat I travel all over the U.S. just came back from Tennessee in fact, I have yet to have any conservatives attempt to physically do anything to me, and what I comment here, I say in person. You are entitled to your opinion, and to Express it. I WILL NEVER BEGRUDGE YOU YOUR RIGHTS, I SERVED TO PROTECT THEM,. Seems to me, you would begrudge me my rights. It feels to me that you don’t like people that don’t see things your way, but you keep saying that I should think freely, MEANING ACCORDING TO HOW YOU FEEL.… Read more »

    tomcat
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    tomcat

    @ Nomad, you sure have a lot of time on your hands and you just keep the civil war of the past forefront in your itty bitty mind. I served, also, as most of the people that post here. Yes, we bitch about political things we don’t like but no one brings race into the picture except a true troublemaker like yourself. About time to get off your high horse and blend into society, rather than carrying that chip on your shoulder that no one gives a damn about. Grow a brain and try to use it. I have no… Read more »

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    You folks are comedic in the extreme, the one thing I know is that none of you can take the voice of dissention. That is EXACTLY what is wrong with this country. It is not the fact that whites are entitled, it is that you bacame complacent. You did not like Obama because people that you deemed beneath you, made gains that were in parity with whites, or surpassed them during his tenure, and he fixed the economy so that we are in good shape today. That angered white America, so now you wish to go back to when you… Read more »

    Douglas Kuykendall
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    Douglas Kuykendall

    Who in the blue hell is this nomad.He needs to start talking out his mouth instead his ass.When you talk of the kkk they are pure communist democrats so you need to get your shit straight if you can.The way you keep rambling on don’t think it’s possible

    MacofJack
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    MacofJack

    @Nomad – When you become a man (and that will take a very lone time at the rate you are going) come back and try again!

    MacofJack
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    MacofJack

    @Wild Bill – I think they are already spun up! In their own minds anyway!

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @MacofJack, good way to obfuscate your haughty, and challenging words in your former comment.
    I TAKE IT YOU DON’T WANT ANY OF ME IN PERSON, MAN TO MAN ? I guess you guys are only physically brave when you have a mob, or a klan to back you up
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    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @That is just silly. Who is going to spend the airfare to do that. If you want a piece of him you should travel to his jurisdiction.

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @wild bill you are correct about jus soli/sanguinas. My question is what was all the bullshit about OBAMA not being a citizen, coming from conservatives, according to these 2 doctrines?
    Seems either hypocritical, or extremely racist .

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    Nomad, Barry Soetoro derived U.S. citizenship through his mother, under, I believe the 1956 Immigration Act. His citizenship was never credibly questioned, thus no one could make him leave the US. He was not, however, a “natural born citizen” and thus not qualified to serve as a US president.

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @wild bill , that’s correct, but ALSO THE REPUBLICANS WILL ALSO TRY TO STOP US. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR WHITE SUPREMACY IN EVERY LEVEL OF GOV’T. Neither party wants people of color to TRULY unify. That would mean that policies in both parties would have to cater to our issues in some form or fashion. White people HATE when they have to do this.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Nomad, I wish you all the success in the world on that new political party for persons of color. I don’t think that the Democrat party will like you taking all those voters away from them, but the Repubs will probably loan you some money to do it.
    Didn’t you used to use some other name, when posting here?

    MacofJack
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    MacofJack

    @Nomad – Why you are already brain dead! We will just let you suffer in your own hell! And if you don’t think you are there, it just proves how far gone you are! IDIOT!

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Mac, I bet that we could, with little effort, really get this guy spun up. Would that be wrong?

    tomcat
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    tomcat

    @ Wild Bill and Maco boy this dude has a chip on his shoulder as big as a box car load of two by tens. The problem I see is that he is all mouth and little substance.
    As far as the cartoon, we sure are generous by paying for all these births when the mother slithers across the border and goes for prenatal care. Disgusting!

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @MacofJack The only time I really needed saving, my brothers in 11S.F. were right there. I don’t need saving now, I have posted where I live, so BRING IT !

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    MAKE ME …..
    DON’T TALK ABOUT IT.
    BE ABOUT IT.
    I AM IN PHILA P.A.
    RITTENHOUSE ST ..

    MacofJack
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    MacofJack

    @Nomad – If you shut up now you would be an idiot. Keep talking and nothing in the world would or could save you!

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @randy herst let’s tell THE TRUTH, birth right citizenship was not a “REMEDY” for non white people. It was a tool for TAXATION, and MILITARY DRAFTS. Non whites had TO PAY TAXES FOR SERVICES THEY NEVER RECIEVED. Oh I forgot, conservatives think “Jim crow”, didn’t exist, just like Republicans say the KKK, ARYAN NATION, AND ALT-RIGHT aren’t Republicans. YET WE SEE THEM AT EVERY REPUBLICAN RALLY, WHAT A QUANDRY HUH ? !! The thing that get’s me is every conservative in this forum screams about 2A rights , EXCEPT WHEN IT IS A PERSON OF COLOR’S RIGHTS THAT ARE ABRIDGED,… Read more »

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @randy herbst, VERY TRUE, but you left out THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. RACIST WHITES GOT FED UP WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND BECAME REPUBLICANS, AND REMAINED CONSERVATIVES, WHICH IS WHY EVERY KKK, ALT-RIGHT, ARYAN NATION, AND TEA PARTY MEMBERS ARE ALL REPUBLICANS. YOU WANT ME TO “LEAVE THE DEMOCRAT PLANTATION”, JUST TO LIVE IN “THE REPUBLICAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS”. TO ME NEITHER IS AN OPTION. PEOPLE OF COLOR MUST HAVE THEIR OWN EXCLUSIVE POLITICAL PARTY, WITH ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR ON UNITY, TO DESTROY RACISTS LIKE ALL OF YOU …

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Nomad, you write, ” PEOPLE OF COLOR MUST HAVE THEIR OWN EXCLUSIVE POLITICAL PARTY, …” That is fine. No one is stopping you, but if you begin to have some success forming another political party, I bet that it will be the Democrat party that tries to stop you.

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    @MacofJack that didn’t stop you from besmirching PRESIDENT BARAK HUSSEON OBAMA’S lineage as an American citizen. IN FACT YOU RACISTS IN THIS MEDIA STILL DECRY HIS CITIZENSHIP. JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT YOUR COMPLAINT ABOUT HIM IS RACE BASED. YOU HAVE NO COMMENT ABOUT MELANIA, BARON OR HER PARENTS THAT HAVE USED CHAIN IMMIGRATION TO BECOME CITIZENS. IF OBAMA HAD DONE THAT TO HIS FATHER’S KIN YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A HISSY FIT LIKE MOST CONSERVATIVE RACIST SNOWFLAKES.
    WE BOTH KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH ..

    randy herst
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    randy herst

    @Nomad — Your historical illiteracy is showing again. Birthright citizenship was intended as a way to remedy the “non-person status” of freed black slaves after the Civil War., 100% intended to benefit non-whites at that time. The racist ones who opposed that 14th Amendment were Democrats….just as the Democrats have discriminated against blacks and other minorities from the foundation of the Democrat Party up until the very recent past. The Democrat Party has done all sorts of things that damaged the rights and economics of minorities right up to the present. You would learn a lot if you see the… Read more »

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @randy h, an excellent recitation of the historical facts.

    MacofJack
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    MacofJack

    @Norad – You do realize that birthright applies to anyone that has one American citizen done’ you? Maybe you should read up before making a stupid comment!

    MacofJack
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    MacofJack

    Birthright was never intended for illegals, so cut them off at the knees!

    henry bowman
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    henry bowman

    Beyond question it is, the idea that you are born in a nation makes you a part of it makes as much sense as claiming if mouse in born in a barn it makes it a Horse is moronic.

    R Corrino
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    R Corrino

    If this were to pass then it means citizenship is conferred via lineage and legal immigration. If we follow this line of logic then this means that offspring of American Citizen parents born out of the USA should be eligible to run and hold the position of POTUS.

    Dave in Fairfax
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    Dave in Fairfax

    They are.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @R Corrino, The United States observes Jus Soli and Jus Sanguinus.

    bobo
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    bobo

    Should have done this 30 plus years ago under Reagan’s ‘amnesty’ and be DONE with it!

    then right now…there would be far Less illegals IN the nation and none of their kids would be WEDGES to stay!
    Even less would want to come because of the “no kid=stay!”
    we would have no Chinese or Russians coming here on VaCa to drop off a kid to give it citizenship then leave with us footing the birth bill$$$$$$$$$$$$
    None of that “ripping families apart” shit on the news…it would be just whole families being sent home!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    That would include MELANIA TRUMP, BARON TRUMP, AND BOTH HER PARENTS RIGHT ?
    Or do you just mean non- white people in this country .

    roger g.
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    roger g.

    nomad, shut the F**k up until you learn about what you are spouting about .that is if you’re capable of independent thought.

    Nomad
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    Nomad

    MAKE ME …..
    DON’T TALK ABOUT IT.
    BE ABOUT IT.
    I AM IN PHILA P.A.
    RITTENHOUSE ST ..