Time to End Birthright Citizenship

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Anchor Baby Birthright Citizenship
Anchor Baby Birthright Citizenship

USA –-(Ammoland.com)- Time to End Birthright Citizenship.

Is it time to rip off the dirty diaper of birthright citizenship and reset the bar for the conveyance of citizenship passing only from U.S. citizen parents?

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  • 46 thoughts on “Time to End Birthright Citizenship

    1. I get sick and tired of reading these arguments they were talking about illegal vs legal citizenship not color not race if your parents are legal it makes you legal and and the same goes for being illegal makes the child illegal also. Stop allowing these idiots to take you guys off subject it’s the way they can make you not discuss the subject.

    2. @wild bill, it is not s deception. It is a REVELATION.
      When you reveal just how inane and assanine some of the perspectives ON BOTH SIDES can be, it may make someone’s perspectives broaden. Only by exposing hypocrisy, and foolishness can we discover TRUTH.

    3. @wild bill, I use a lot of names on this forum. I even have a profile that I pose as a white man. You ever heard of desmosthenes/locke character in ENDERS GAME ?
      Now you may understand .

      1. @Nomad, I understand that you are running a deception. That is not very honest. Why bother to deceive when there is no profit in it? Is it in your nature to deceive just for your own entertainment.
        I don’t read novels much or study fictional characters.

        1. @wild bill, it is not s deception. It is a REVELATION.
          When you reveal just how inane and assanine some of the perspectives ON BOTH SIDES can be, it may make someone’s perspectives broaden. Only by exposing hypocrisy, and foolishness can we discover TRUTH.

      2. If it isn’t deception, regardless of what you say your intent is, why use multiple personas? It isn’t revelation, it’s deception to pretend to be different people.
        There are many people here, sometimes we agree, sometimes not, but most are honest in their statements and don’t pose as multiple sock puppets.

        I looked up your address, if it is indeed yours. You need to get a decent, honest job and leave the neighborhood. The boarded up houses and cemetery are a nice touch.
        Which makes me question your criminal status and your intent in being on this forum. If you are here to be a dog in the manger, the time would be better spent finding a job so that you can move.

        Reading through your comments I see constant errors in spelling, and an inability to avoid race baiting or be honest about history. You know full well that all the Democrats didn’t suddenly wake up one day, see the error of their ways, and do a 360 in party politics. I’m sure that you know that Lincoln was a Republican. Do you truly believe that the Republicans did the same thing and swapped party platforms with the Democrats?

        You think that the Republicans are the party of the rich and the Democrats are the party of the poor. In reality, they are, respectively, the party of self sufficiency and the party of government handouts. That may lead to the economic shake-out that you see, but it is inaccurate to say that the Republicans make people rich or poor, that is done by the economic policies of the Democrats. Republican values reward work, Democrat values reward dependency. The results are predicable.

        You might want to remember that the question of BHO’s citizenship was played up, originally by WJC, not the Republicans. His basing his political career on NOT being an American, but instead being someone who was looking at the US from the outside, and then sealing or having destroyed, as many of his records as possible, raises a credible question. Crying racism doesn’t change any of the facts, it merely tries to conceal them.

        Unless you are proto-amerindian, you are descended from immigrants to this country, or are one yourself. Until very recently immigration was filtered by criminal record, and health, among other things. It is only recently that people have felt that anyone, for any reason should be allowed into this country regardless of their criminal background or their means of entry. Melania and her family came here legally. Pretending that they are on the same level as someone who is here illegally is deception, not revelation.

        Very few people here have shown any predisposition towards racism, yet you harp on it constantly. I was taught that people suspect in others what they see in themselves. You might want to do some introspection.

        1. Very well said I feel there is people out there paid to sift through the internet and make comments to break down American cohesion. Thanks again

    4. @wild bill I don’t want a peice of anyone, but if someone wants a peice of me I will gladly give them my location, and they can have at it. I travel all the time, in rural and urban places in this country. I am an American and a veteran, I will travel wherever I wish, without fear. My thing is, don’t talk tough shit because you don’t agree, or don’t like what I comment, not saying you did, but some of your contemporaries like to be keyboard tough guys.
      Whether you agree or not, my perspective about things is based on FACTS. You can gloss it over, or bemoan it as in the past, but they are FACTS. Most people in this forum just like to pay themselves on the back because they have the same perspective, but a gruop of idiots cannot guage each others intelligence.
      REALITY IS A UNIVERSAL PERSPECTIVE, THAT INCLUDES PUTTING YOURSELF IN THE OTHER GUY’S SHOES, SOMETHING CONSERVATIVES SHY AWAY FROM … especially racist ones.

    5. And yet @wild bill he served two terms as THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and reversed our course from another great depression and set the base for the economic gains of today. I know that conservatives fantasize about tRump reversing an economic decline in 1 year, but that is just that, A FANTASY.
      The other thing is once you realize what your current glorious leader has set you up for, you are going to want us to help you again. When conservatives realize that the current administration is made up of robber barons, that gave THEMSELVES the largest super wealthy tax break, and probably crippled the next generation AGAIN, you are going to see more conservative Republicans voting Democrat than the smart ones that are doing it tomorrow. What you fail to realize is that in wealthy circles me and you are viewed with the same contempt, they see us as cattle, and peasants. People of color have more experience at this than you, but you will see it soon. tRUMP has the rubes “spun up”, but the bill is coming due. The loss of manufacturing, coupled with the wealthy not wanting to re-invest those tax break dollars into this country’s economy will cause a serious recession, especially since that tax break, THERE HAVE BEEN MORE AND MORE LAY OFFS. WE PEOPLE OF COLOR KNOW THAT WHITES WILL THEN TARGET THOSE OF COLOR THAT ARE MORE WELL OFF THAN THEM, TO MURDER AND ROB
      THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY HAS NEVER CHANGED. WE ARE JUST BETTER PREPARED FOR AN AMERICAN KRISTALLNACHT THAN THE JEWS WERE IN GERMANY,
      OR THE VICTIMS IN TULSA, AND ROSEWOOD.

      1. @Nomad, You write, “… once you realize what your current glorious leader has set you up for…” What do you think that we have been set up for?

        1. President Trump, Republicans in Congress , and ScotUS, have made it legal to bribe elected officials through the citizens United campaign laws. This has effectively nullified our voting power. Elected officials now cater to the whims of the ultra rich. If you are repulsed by the actions of Soros, but not the Koch brothers, that proves you have drank the FOOL AID, and have willingly poisoned yourself. Politicians in many states have allowed policies that negatively impact pur communities, do that their corporate sponsors can make a buck. Can anyone show me these new jobs supposedly created by the tax breaks for the wealthy ?
          How about the median return for the middle class, and poor ?
          The red flag emergency orders some states have imposed was originally presented to disarm people of color, and as soon as it was passed, THEY WENT AFTER WHITES, if you don’t see this, something is wrong.
          Water rights to corporationd, and breaking treaties with natives to build pipelines, opens the door for the wealthy to take your land under imminent domain.
          No liberal Scotus voted for citizens United, ONLY THE CONSERVATIVES DID .
          In reality I am conservative about most things, except social programs, military spending, and social security being an ENTITLEMENT.
          IF YOUR PARTY HAS TO GERRYMANDER, OR RIG ELECTION LAWS TO WIN AN ELECTION, THEN YOUR POLL ARTY IS THE LARGEST THREAT TO A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC THAN ANY COMMUNIST OR SOCIALIST. THAT IS FACISM .
          I QUOTE :
          EXCERPT FROM PSALM 94
          “Can a corrupt throne be allied with you—
          a throne that brings on misery by its decrees?
          21 The wicked band together against the righteous
          and condemn the innocent to death.
          22 But the Lord has become my fortress,
          and my God the rock in whom I take refuge.
          23 He will repay them for their sins
          and destroy them for their wickedness;
          the Lord our God will destroy them.”
          THIS IS TODAY’S AMERIKKKA ……

    6. Well @Tom Cat I travel all over the U.S. just came back from Tennessee in fact, I have yet to have any conservatives attempt to physically do anything to me, and what I comment here, I say in person. You are entitled to your opinion, and to Express it. I WILL NEVER BEGRUDGE YOU YOUR RIGHTS, I SERVED TO PROTECT THEM,. Seems to me, you would begrudge me my rights. It feels to me that you don’t like people that don’t see things your way, but you keep saying that I should think freely, MEANING ACCORDING TO HOW YOU FEEL. Well what you eat doesn’t make me shit, and I have a right to Express my views on any forum I join.
      MAYBE THAT IS THE THING ABOUT EQUALITY YOU DON’T LIKE HUH ?

      1. @ Nomad, you sure have a lot of time on your hands and you just keep the civil war of the past forefront in your itty bitty mind. I served, also, as most of the people that post here. Yes, we bitch about political things we don’t like but no one brings race into the picture except a true troublemaker like yourself. About time to get off your high horse and blend into society, rather than carrying that chip on your shoulder that no one gives a damn about. Grow a brain and try to use it. I have no more time for your petty b.s.

    7. You folks are comedic in the extreme, the one thing I know is that none of you can take the voice of dissention. That is EXACTLY what is wrong with this country. It is not the fact that whites are entitled, it is that you bacame complacent. You did not like Obama because people that you deemed beneath you, made gains that were in parity with whites, or surpassed them during his tenure, and he fixed the economy so that we are in good shape today. That angered white America, so now you wish to go back to when you thought america was great. You know , when you could antagonize and abuse non white people without fear of retribution, or even us defending ourselves. When if you told a black man to shut up, he said, “yassa boss”, but those days are gone. They will never return. America was never great, whites destroyed the greatness of America when it lynched it’s black servicemen that risked their lives defending this country. It wasn’t great when it treated nazi prisoners better than the black Americans that fought them. It wasn’t great when it denied it’s citizens the right to vote, which it still does by gerrymandering, and closing polling places in black communities. Whites are afraid of empowered people of color. Your reactions to me prove it. What are you afraid of ? Maybe the thought of REAL EQUALITY SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF YOU, BECAUSE YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF LACKING …… I don’t need your approbation of me to define my manhood, the fact is you are irrelevant in my life, I subscribe to this forum to see how the racists are perceiving the events my country, but your attempts to get me “spun up” is funny, because one word, “OBAMA”, gets you so spun up you can’t see rational facts …

    8. Who in the blue hell is this nomad.He needs to start talking out his mouth instead his ass.When you talk of the kkk they are pure communist democrats so you need to get your shit straight if you can.The way you keep rambling on don’t think it’s possible

    9. @Nomad – When you become a man (and that will take a very lone time at the rate you are going) come back and try again!

    10. @MacofJack, good way to obfuscate your haughty, and challenging words in your former comment.
      I TAKE IT YOU DON’T WANT ANY OF ME IN PERSON, MAN TO MAN ? I guess you guys are only physically brave when you have a mob, or a klan to back you up
      .

      1. @That is just silly. Who is going to spend the airfare to do that. If you want a piece of him you should travel to his jurisdiction.

    11. @wild bill you are correct about jus soli/sanguinas. My question is what was all the bullshit about OBAMA not being a citizen, coming from conservatives, according to these 2 doctrines?
      Seems either hypocritical, or extremely racist .

      1. Nomad, Barry Soetoro derived U.S. citizenship through his mother, under, I believe the 1956 Immigration Act. His citizenship was never credibly questioned, thus no one could make him leave the US. He was not, however, a “natural born citizen” and thus not qualified to serve as a US president.

    12. @wild bill , that’s correct, but ALSO THE REPUBLICANS WILL ALSO TRY TO STOP US. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR WHITE SUPREMACY IN EVERY LEVEL OF GOV’T. Neither party wants people of color to TRULY unify. That would mean that policies in both parties would have to cater to our issues in some form or fashion. White people HATE when they have to do this.

      1. @Nomad, I wish you all the success in the world on that new political party for persons of color. I don’t think that the Democrat party will like you taking all those voters away from them, but the Repubs will probably loan you some money to do it.
        Didn’t you used to use some other name, when posting here?

    13. @Nomad – Why you are already brain dead! We will just let you suffer in your own hell! And if you don’t think you are there, it just proves how far gone you are! IDIOT!

        1. @ Wild Bill and Maco boy this dude has a chip on his shoulder as big as a box car load of two by tens. The problem I see is that he is all mouth and little substance.
          As far as the cartoon, we sure are generous by paying for all these births when the mother slithers across the border and goes for prenatal care. Disgusting!

    14. @MacofJack The only time I really needed saving, my brothers in 11S.F. were right there. I don’t need saving now, I have posted where I live, so BRING IT !

    15. @Nomad – If you shut up now you would be an idiot. Keep talking and nothing in the world would or could save you!

    16. @randy herst let’s tell THE TRUTH, birth right citizenship was not a “REMEDY” for non white people. It was a tool for TAXATION, and MILITARY DRAFTS. Non whites had TO PAY TAXES FOR SERVICES THEY NEVER RECIEVED. Oh I forgot, conservatives think “Jim crow”, didn’t exist, just like Republicans say the KKK, ARYAN NATION, AND ALT-RIGHT aren’t Republicans. YET WE SEE THEM AT EVERY REPUBLICAN RALLY, WHAT A QUANDRY HUH ? !!
      The thing that get’s me is every conservative in this forum screams about 2A rights , EXCEPT WHEN IT IS A PERSON OF COLOR’S RIGHTS THAT ARE ABRIDGED, THEN YOU FIND ANY EXCUSE TO EITHER DENOUNCE THAT CITIZEN, OR YOU SAY NOTHING AT ALL.
      ie: Philando Castile, John Crawford 3, Tamir Rice, Ayana Staley-Jones ……

    17. @randy herbst, VERY TRUE, but you left out THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. RACIST WHITES GOT FED UP WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND BECAME REPUBLICANS, AND REMAINED CONSERVATIVES, WHICH IS WHY EVERY KKK, ALT-RIGHT, ARYAN NATION, AND TEA PARTY MEMBERS ARE ALL REPUBLICANS. YOU WANT ME TO “LEAVE THE DEMOCRAT PLANTATION”, JUST TO LIVE IN “THE REPUBLICAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS”. TO ME NEITHER IS AN OPTION. PEOPLE OF COLOR MUST HAVE THEIR OWN EXCLUSIVE POLITICAL PARTY, WITH ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR ON UNITY, TO DESTROY RACISTS LIKE ALL OF YOU …

      1. @Nomad, you write, ” PEOPLE OF COLOR MUST HAVE THEIR OWN EXCLUSIVE POLITICAL PARTY, …” That is fine. No one is stopping you, but if you begin to have some success forming another political party, I bet that it will be the Democrat party that tries to stop you.

    18. @MacofJack that didn’t stop you from besmirching PRESIDENT BARAK HUSSEON OBAMA’S lineage as an American citizen. IN FACT YOU RACISTS IN THIS MEDIA STILL DECRY HIS CITIZENSHIP. JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT YOUR COMPLAINT ABOUT HIM IS RACE BASED. YOU HAVE NO COMMENT ABOUT MELANIA, BARON OR HER PARENTS THAT HAVE USED CHAIN IMMIGRATION TO BECOME CITIZENS. IF OBAMA HAD DONE THAT TO HIS FATHER’S KIN YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A HISSY FIT LIKE MOST CONSERVATIVE RACIST SNOWFLAKES.
      WE BOTH KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH ..

    19. @Nomad — Your historical illiteracy is showing again. Birthright citizenship was intended as a way to remedy the “non-person status” of freed black slaves after the Civil War., 100% intended to benefit non-whites at that time. The racist ones who opposed that 14th Amendment were Democrats….just as the Democrats have discriminated against blacks and other minorities from the foundation of the Democrat Party up until the very recent past. The Democrat Party has done all sorts of things that damaged the rights and economics of minorities right up to the present.

      You would learn a lot if you see the movie or read the book, “Death of a Nation”, which lays out the bigoted nature of the Democrat Party.

      As for your absurd comparison between “birthright citizenship for illegal alien invaders” and several Trump family members, note that the Trump relatives didn’t sneak into this country undeclared, and they were vetted and ratified as legal immigrants after appropriate applications..

    20. @Norad – You do realize that birthright applies to anyone that has one American citizen done’ you? Maybe you should read up before making a stupid comment!

    21. Beyond question it is, the idea that you are born in a nation makes you a part of it makes as much sense as claiming if mouse in born in a barn it makes it a Horse is moronic.

      1. If this were to pass then it means citizenship is conferred via lineage and legal immigration. If we follow this line of logic then this means that offspring of American Citizen parents born out of the USA should be eligible to run and hold the position of POTUS.

    22. Should have done this 30 plus years ago under Reagan’s ‘amnesty’ and be DONE with it!

      then right now…there would be far Less illegals IN the nation and none of their kids would be WEDGES to stay!
      Even less would want to come because of the “no kid=stay!”
      we would have no Chinese or Russians coming here on VaCa to drop off a kid to give it citizenship then leave with us footing the birth bill$$$$$$$$$$$$
      None of that “ripping families apart” shit on the news…it would be just whole families being sent home!!!!!!!!!!!

      1. That would include MELANIA TRUMP, BARON TRUMP, AND BOTH HER PARENTS RIGHT ?
        Or do you just mean non- white people in this country .

        1. nomad, shut the F**k up until you learn about what you are spouting about .that is if you’re capable of independent thought.

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