East German-Style Gun Confiscation Orders (“Red-Flag Laws”) Coming to Wisconsin

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East German-Style Gun Confiscation Orders (“Red-Flag Laws”) Coming to Wisconsin

Wisconsin – -(AmmoLand.com)- It is 5:32 am.

Gary Willis, of Ferndale, Maryland answers a knock at his door. It is to be the last thing he will ever do. Seconds later, gunfire erupts as the police gun Willis down in cold blood in his own home.

Mr. Willis would become the first victim of his state’s new “red-flag” gun law.

Now for the bad news: It’s coming to Wisconsin. They’re calling it “gun control that even conservatives can support.”

But the truth is, conceding our gun rights doesn’t make the gun grabbers go away, it only emboldens them.

To quote Winston Churchill, “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”

The idea behind these dangerous new gun laws is that someone reports you, or “red flags” you to the government. A secret court (that you are not allowed to attend or have legal representation at) decides if you’re a “threat” and issues a gun confiscation order.

Just like that your gun rights are gone … no due process, no presumption of innocence, no legal defense.

Of course, when the police come to serve you and take your guns, they’re on high alert because they already believe you to be a threat … and they know you have guns.

And when you answer the door and try to assert your rights, or simply question what is happening, you get both barrels … literally. All it takes is for a nosy neighbor or disgruntled ex-spouse to call you in. Even if someone completely lies about you, there’s no due process for you to refute the allegations. It’s just like in a despotic Third World dictatorship where the secret police go around framing people and destroying lives to get themselves ahead.

Now, 12 states have already passed red-flag gun laws and Wisconsin will be taking up the issue this session.

The situation is extremely dangerous. Not only are both parties jumping on this bandwagon in an attempt to appear reasonable, but we can’t count on the institutional gun lobby to strictly oppose it, either.

That’s why I need to know if you’ll stand with me and WGO to OPPOSE red-flag gun laws in Wisconsin.

Will you sign the online petition for Wisconsin legislators? Will you consider a donation to WGO so we have the resources to fight this attack on liberty?

Thank you,

Corey Graff
Executive Director

P.S.- Wisconsin legislators are being pressured to introduce so-called red-flag gun laws. If passed, an ex-spouse could simply call the authorities to report you, and you lose your guns. One gun owner in Maryland has already been gunned down by the police because he didn’t immediately surrender his guns. This threat is serious.

Wisconsin Gun Owners, Inc.
PO Box 329
Waupaca, WI 54981


Wisconsin Gun Owners

About Wisconsin Gun Owners:

WGO works for grassroots gun owners, not politicians. While many gun lobbies fight for “reasonable gun control,” WGO sets a higher standard: Defining the terrain of pro-gun political battle. Sure, many groups claim they're “pro-gun” – all the while they provide cover for anti-gun deals cut by politicians – but only WGO truly informs gun owners, remaining committed to a 100% pro-gun position. We oppose all gun control – regardless of the political party – and work tirelessly to restore the Second Amendment. Visit www.wisconsingunowners.org

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Dan Schwager

We have a Democrat Gov and AG because a bunch of Idiots voted 3rd party this time around and lot of Never Walkers voted Democrat. We cut our own head off this time. The elected a failed Dept of Education bureaucrat, that is planning to turn Wi into Ill, Ca, NJ, NY, WA.

TheHolyCrow
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TheHolyCrow

How many electronic voting machines are used in your state ? It has come to light that organizations run by George Soros own the software on those machines, and that they are hackable by remote access. Which means that thru fraudulent voting tallies, the likes of George Soros and his ilk can get the candidate of their choice placed in office, ready to vote the way he tells them to. It is way past time to get rid of all electronic voting, and return to all paper ballots that can be recounted, and stored for future use if a problem… Read more »

Mike
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Mike

Third party votes had nothing to do with it. If you took all the third party votes, you wouldn’t have enough to overcome the deficit.

john pacifico
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john pacifico

This country is in a state of change do to the the Democrats and the far left. While Republicans do not have a lot to be proud of these days the NRA should be more involved in updating our gun rights in the halls of congress. There is a humanitarian and security crisis at our nation’s southern border. Our country is threatened by the inflow of drugs and criminal aliens.The statistics show and the experts agree that we need increased resources to protect our borders Washington Democrats are rejecting these facts. Along with our second amendment rights they feel that… Read more »

Jean
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Jean

Actually, you might want to try putting God first before ‘we the people’ since that is how we got our country in the first place. People getting God out of everything is the reason we are in this position so let’s not look to “We” first. Otherwise, I agree with the rest of your comments.

Michael J
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Michael J

What judge is going to ignore red flag accusations and risk public scrutiny when it costs him nothing to be wrong?
That’s the problem with red flag laws, the accused will always be treated as guilty. In California the law makers had to make
false accusations a felony because vindictive people were using this law just to get back at someone. Too late for the falsely accused, now they have to defend themselves in court with great cost and inconvenience.  Red flag laws are anti-Constitutional.

Steve B
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Steve B

“In order to take over a country, you must first disarm the people”
Adolf Hitler 1938
“it worked”

John
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John

What happens when weapons/ammo as seized based upon RFL warrants, are damaged or lost by the respective law enforcement agency conducting the court ordered warrant? Missouri legislatures are flirting with RFLs in both chambers, neither of which address this very likely scenario! Moreover, an accusation later proven false, Missouri Bills as well fail to hold accuser responsible to the accused. An unsuccessful case as filed by an accuser, should not the accuser have to pay all fees and damages as sustained by the accused when successfully proving their innocence. Missouri Bills merely says the accuser filing a false report is… Read more »

The Green Watch dog
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The Green Watch dog

News reports state the incident ‘just a little bit differently” Corey Graff. Bending the news 180 degrees???? 🙁 “The subject of the protective order, Gary J. Willis, 60, answered his door in the 100 block of Linwood Ave. at 5:17 a.m. with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County police said. He initially put the gun down next to the door, but “became irate” when officers began to serve him with the order, opened the door and picked up the gun again, police said”. If true, perps like this are an unfortunate result of not abiding to police commands.… Read more »

The Revelator
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The Revelator

Yes, We all know you support gun control. We all know you are willing to accept or push lies to try and get others to support gun control. There are a lot of us who will be “Irate” if confiscations are tried against us with no crime having been committed, no court proceedings or convictions having occurred, and idiotic mouthpieces in college who have yet to graduate out of diapers telling us that just because a police officer is breaking the law we have to accept it. No, we won’t be opening our doors, and anyone kicking them in will… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@The Rev. The GRF thinks that he is going to be a big noise in the socialist regime. He fails to recognize that all the low level useful idiots will be among the first trundled off to camps of just disposed of, just like previous communist take-overs.

The Revelator
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The Revelator

@Wild Bill Indeed. Unfortunately, considering what he has done to try to “argue” his opinions here so far he has come out as a kid in college, which tells us a few things considering the evidence he has left across ammoland. He is. 1. Mentally deficient, relying on catch phrases and keywords he was hand fed by his professors who have helped him understand that he needs them to help teach him what to think. 2. Barely competent at performing a “Google search” as most of the millennial generation today is prone to do when they hear facts that disprove… Read more »

Carol B Combs
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Carol B Combs

Red Flag GWB so he can not drive. Safety first.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@CBC, You go, girl!

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Rev…Indeed and his hero is that hogg imbecile .

Andy
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Andy

Are you back “Wild Bill”. The man who hunts for his own supper? Crows and rats don’t count as “dangerous game” Wild Bill. Too bad you took the name of a real American! You never answered my question as to whether or not you served in the military. I LIVED in Berlin. I know what gun confiscation leads too. You are welcome to come and take my guns anytime.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Andy, you have me confused with someone else. I would be the last person that you would see on your door step trying to confiscate your firearms.
I was stationed in Mannheim once, and worked on Reforger (Reintroduction of Forces into Germany). The defense of the Fulda Gap. Germany is ok.
As to my nom de guerre, I had a commander, once, that thought that he was clever. It stuck and a lot of my former colleagues call me that.

Walter Goddard
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Walter Goddard

When I traveled to Italy a couple years ago, I got a first hand look at how much the criminals respect/fear the Law in Germany.
During my 14 hour layover in Dusseldorf, I saw two different criminals/arrests getting chased by police in the Airport. Both of them stopped, and held their hands for the handcuffs… Smiling while they did it! There was plenty of room to run away from the Police as well. They were a hundred yards away still…

The Green Watch Dog
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The Green Watch Dog

Come on The Revelator, I know you can debate me better than this! RFLs are much more than prevention of a potential homicide. Law enforcement can’t simply seize a person’s firearms for no valid reason. Before one is issued, the case is carefully researched. You and others must have read that a person has the right to a hearing and appeal their case. The big bad LEOs don’t keep one’s guns and their case is reviewed in a timely manner. A large % of LEOs addressing the mentally disturbed are for suicide prevention. As I have expressed, most law abiding… Read more »

The Revelator
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The Revelator

Awwww….. Baby had to go beddy bye…… Been there, debated, and destroyed the reasons you tried to cite. “Law enforcement can’t simply seize a person’s firearms for no valid reason.” No Valid reason huh. You mean like a random person complaining “I’m afraid of that person, he/she has guns. They are a danger.”, in a hearing with a judge that is kept secret from the victim whose property is taken without evidence or giving them a chance to say anything in their own defense? You mean no valid reason other than somebody agreeing with confiscation? ERPO’s ARE SEIZING PEOPLES FIREARMS… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@GRF, It matters not if everyone in America wanted these unconstitutional statutes. Americans have Rights that negate these statutes. Absent procedural due process, enforcing these statues is “simply seize(ing) a person’s firearms for no valid reason. Ex parte allegations is not careful research. The accused must have an opportunity to present his side of the issue before the state acts to harm him. This is a bedrock principle among free people, but not socialists and fascists. You nor any of the various governments can change our proven Constitutional system only because you want peace. If you want to live out… Read more »

The Revelator
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The Revelator

@Wild Bill Exactly. Of course this has all been explained to him before, he just insists on going “full retard” in his attempts to violate unalienable rights. I’m just betting that he is stupid enough that he is not aware of the “Forgotten Right” that we have if people like him attempt to impose their stupidity on the rest of us. It is written down word for word as an Unalienable right so that no one can say it is not. It overrides the authority of all police organizations, all state governments, the Federal Government. All entities. And the beauty… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@moldy dog…How do you feel about Red Flagging those who advocate abortions ?
They are obviously a danger to defenseless infants .

m.
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m.

no one cares what anti-2a d-suckers think about anything

m.
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m.

to be expected in the land of the still-unpunished? “john doe” home-invaders, if anyone has forgotten

SWL
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SWL

Was that the case were the political opposition had their homes raided, searched and personnal papers/computers were siezed?

m.
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m.

correct

Gene Ralno
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Gene Ralno

Clearly, the government cannot be trusted with the 2nd Amendment. Fact is, red flag laws are intended to remove firearms from the hands of deranged persons but aren’t crafted to succeed. No state thus far has crafted a law that ensures the disarmed person is deranged. Seems they empower mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, uncles, cousins, friends, neighbors, judges, police officers, boyfriends, girlfriends and everyone except those actually qualified to judge mental competence. Bills in other states would allow classmates to partner with judges against the ones they don’t like. Until two independently chosen psychiatrists, one from each side… Read more »

Freebird
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Freebird

I can just hear it now …. ” They were ‘ good ‘ cops , just following orders ,when the Red Flagged citizen ( not charged with any crime ) shot them down for NO REASON., as they broke down their door.”

Thomas J
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Thomas J

Sic Semper Tyrannis

robert kling
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robert kling

“East German-Style Gun Confiscation Orders”

So accurate. We need to start using this phrase to describe theses laws.

m.
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m.

gun “control” = a**hole

The Revelator
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The Revelator

See Also : “Green Watch Dog” Noun; a moron that believes his desires can overrule the United States constitution which prohibits the federal government and all states from enacting ERPO’s under the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 9th amendments of the Bill of Rights.