Gun Control Fails Again in Aurora, Illinois- Five Dead & Six Wounded

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Gun Control Fails Again in Aurora, Illinois- Five Dead & Six Wounded

Illinois – -(AmmoLand.com)- There are 23 thousand firearms regulations in the USA. This time, a man lied on his state firearms application. The convicted felon got his gun. Last week, he killed five co-workers and wounded six police officers before he was killed by police. Let’s see what we can learn from this murder in Aurora, Illinois. These are the ways that gun-control failed.

Illinois has a lot of gun-control laws. The gun-control group Giffords Law Center ranks the State of Illinois as 8th in the nation for gun-control. Giffords gave Illinois a B+ rating for the strength and breadth of its firearms prohibitions.

To start, you must apply for an Illinois Firearms Owners Identification Card. Law abiding citizens need that FOID card before they are allowed to touch a gun or buy one round of ammunition legally. The murderer applied for and received his FOID card. He lied on his application and passed his background check.

We were told that couldn’t happen, but now we know that convicted felons will lie and get guns and ammunition.

That contradicts what the Illinois State Police said. The State Police said they conduct a nationwide search on the entire Illinois State FOID card database every night. They search state and national databases for criminal and mental health convictions. We found out that many mental health convictions are never entered into the database. Illinois politicians told us that government employees would keep us safe from criminals who break the law.

We found out that government employees don’t follow the law themselves.

The murderer was a prohibited person and barred from touching a gun or ammunition. He served five years of a ten-year sentence for aggravated assault and domestic battery. He stabbed his girlfriend with a knife and beat her with a baseball bat. He was entered into the FBI database after that conviction. That should have produced thousands of alarms for the Illinois State Police since the murderer had his FOID card for over four years.

Illinois politicians said a database would keep us safe. We discovered that computer background checks don’t work to disarm criminals.

The convicted criminal should have generated an alarm every time he purchased ammunition and showed his FOID card. Most criminals simply avoid that problem by getting their guns and ammo off the street. Maybe the police were too busy running computer background checks and didn’t have time to take the guns from the convicted felons they discovered. We don’t know why the police didn’t arrest these criminal years earlier because the Illinois State police wouldn’t tell us.

We’ve found that Illinois State Police don’t arrest the felons who have guns illegally.

Illinois has age restrictions in place so that people under 21 years of age are legally barred from purchasing a firearm or buying ammunition. That also means you can’t legally carry a concealed firearm in public until you’re 21 years of age or older. One of the murder victims in Aurora, Illinois was a college student. Illinois State gun-control laws disarmed the victims but didn’t disarm the murderer. That isn’t what we were promised by Illinois politicians.

We were promised that criminals would obey our gun laws.

We can understand how some people could slip through the system. There are storms and communications problems. Computers go down unexpectedly. Illinois has a 72 hour waiting period for the police to re-review any firearms purchase. Illinois law enforcement can put a halt on any firearms purchase if they have any concerns. Illinois politicians demanded more gun-control and said that mistakes wouldn’t happen.

These three-day delays stopped honest gun owners from quickly getting a gun for protection, but the delay didn’t prevent this murderer from getting his gun to kill.

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Illinois gun-control laws gave employers the right to post their property as a gun-free zone. That means that honest gun owners can be fined and have their firearms taken away if they enter a posted area. The property where the murderer killed his co-workers was posted as a gun-free zone.

Those plastic signs stopped honest gun owners from carrying a legally owned firearm for self-defense, but the company didn’t search a murderer to make sure he obeyed a plastic sign.

Illinois politicians said that gun-free zones would make us safe, but plastic signs didn’t disarm the murderer at all.

Illinois passed gun-control laws that limited the capacity of ammunition magazines. In theory, that meant the murderer had to stop and reload his firearm. In practice, it meant that more honest gun owners were disarmed when their gun didn’t fit the new rules. Gun-control laws, like magazine capacity restrictions, didn’t stop the murderer. Illinois politicians said that gun-control made us safe, but we discovered that any gun is lethal when the victims are disarmed.

Illinois politicians said gun-control laws worked and would keep us safe. We were told that government employees would do their job. We were told that the police would protect us, so we didn’t have to protect ourselves. We believed all of it. We were wrong, and we paid the price. Honest citizens paid the price with their blood.

The difficult truth is that a murderer won’t obey the law. Ink on paper, and plastic signs on a door won’t stop a killer. Now, we discovered that gun-control laws don’t work and our safety is up to us.


About Rob MorseSlow Facts

The original article is here. Rob Morse writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob is an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.

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    I was recently sent a fitting quote attributed to Sheriff Joe Arpaio, “A liberal paradise would be a place where everybody has guaranteed employment, free comprehensive healthcare, free education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free utilities, and only law enforcement has guns. And believe it or not, such a place does, indeed, exist. It’s called prison.”

    tomcat
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    tomcat

    Yea, they need to invent more laws. They just proved, in plain site, that the gun laws in force do not work so they have to invent new ones. What ever their pea sized brains come up with will only harm the honest person that lives by the law. State or Federal should have rounded this crook up and sent him to the hotel with bars and took his gun away. I’m sorry, the last sentence was common sense and that leaves the gun grabbers out in left field, they would never understand.

    Fred Bacon
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    Fred Bacon

    Gun fre zone usually have 2 with me

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    The article ends with the clear;y stated principle that WE are responsible for our own safety. That is part of what the Second Article of Ammendment states…. remember this bit? “the security of a free state” is what is being protected, right? By WHOM is it to be protected? The PEOPLE who comprise the miiltia. WHO are they? EVERYONE. Militia are the whole of the people able to bear arms.. Thus THE PEOPLE hold the burden for assuring “the security of a free state”. And “state: does not mean, at root, Illinois, New York California, Arizona.. no, it means simply… Read more »

    m.
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    m.

    isd = indoctrinating students daily, not independent school district

    Freeillinois
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    Freeillinois

    The Illinois gun lobby is talking about enforcing existing law. According to existing Law, the place of the Aurora shooting was a “Victimization Zone” or “Gun Free Zone” I do not want any more “Victimization Zones” or “Gun Free Zone” I do not want any more innocent people set up to be victims by this government. Existing law is the problem. We need to restore the “Checks and Balances” between the good guys and the bad people that want to do us harm. Constitutional Carry is the solution; Repealing the FOID card is a solution to this problem. Learn how… Read more »

    TAD
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    TAD

    GUN FREE ZONES ~ 98% of Mass Murders happen in these Zones, the other 2% happen in parking lots and parks adjacent to them, Don’t want to Die stay out of these places or don’t work there. It seems it takes a Good Guy with A GUN to Stop A Bad Guy with A GUN.

    Mott
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    Mott

    ANYONE that thinks that little sign is going to stop someone bent on doing harm……”Here’s YOUR sign” STUPID!

    luckieboy
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    luckieboy

    No more security in or for the halls of congress. Our duly elected falsely believe they are more important than they are because we have given the the right to steal.

    Dean
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    Dean

    In Illinois you have to apply for an owners card and wait several weeks for that approval. Then when purchasing a hand gun you fill out the 4473 and have to wait another 72 hours for that approval. This felon was finally discovered when he applied for a concealed carry permit 3 years ago. That is when he should have been arrested for lying on all three applications which is punishable by several years. He was sent a letter telling him his owners card was canceled and he must get rid of his gun. All they want is another LAW.… Read more »

    Norman Dvorak
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    Norman Dvorak

    As per our 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America it is every American Citizen’s Right to purchase a firearm, learn how to safely use it and carry it on his or her person for protection. Every gun law enacted in the United States that goes against our 2nd Amendment is an unjust law and should be stricken from the books. The more guns that are in the hand of honest law abiding Citizens means less crime in our Country. Even with all the Law Enforcement Agencies in our Country no one can protect you better… Read more »

    Chris Howard
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    Chris Howard

    Take away all of the politicians and lawmakers abilities to protect themselves, security personnel and high end security systems ? See how they would like to live in our shoes day to day ? With all of these restrictions, I don’ think they would like it either ?

    luckieboy
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    luckieboy

    No more security in or for the halls of congress. Our duly elected falsely believe they are more important than they are because we have given the the right to steal.

    jonnyman
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    jonnyman

    Glad I live in Arizona! At least we have a fighting chance against the lawless hordes. It time for a national “Constitutional Carry” law. Snowflakes be damned!

    m.
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    m.

    hope u patriots can hold out against the dhimmi-rats in phoenix & tucson

    Renfro
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    Renfro

    You rarely hear these liberal politicians wanting to combat gangs and drugs, just go after the law abiding. Ass backwards.

    Mark Are
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    Mark Are

    They don’t want to combat gangs because they shoot back. Honest “law” abiding citizens, not only don’t shoot back, they won’t even stand up for their own simple rights.

    m.
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    m.

    can’t go up against their constituents/voters

    John
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    John

    I think a HUGE class action lawsuit against the lawmakers that penned these failed “protections” would be in order. Make the penalty so costly that they will think twice before voting for these moronic laws. The owner of the company is also culpable for disarming the legally armed people that work there. I am NOT a sue everybody kind of guy but we have to fight fire with fire.

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    Better yet: Every one of them swore an oath to uphold defend and faithfully execute the Constitutions of both the uSA and of the State where they are taking office… and for city and county dudes, the charters or laws of that jurisdictioin. To swear such an oath then fail to uphold it is felony perjury. Begin charging these dirtbags with that crime and see how long it takes for the others not YET charged to “get the message”. It might give pause to some considering running for office and intending to disregard their oaths to perhaps make an informed… Read more »

    Ed
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    Ed

    “Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. For the purpose of Section 242, acts under “color of law” include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official’s lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons… Read more »

    John
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    John

    Maybe someone can answer – buying a firearm from a dealer in Illinois, one only fills out a state licensing form, not a federal 4473 subject to NICS check?

    hippybiker
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    hippybiker

    No. After jump through all their hoops and begging for permission, one still needs to go through all” the federal bullshit, too!
    Glad I got out of tha5 crap hole! Now t(e assha5s are tryi g to screw up Florida, too!

    Wayne Clark
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    Wayne Clark

    Not sure if you’re just being rhetorical but the answer to your question is yes…they have to fill out a 4473 form. As you stated, it’s a federal form, which in itself, only goes to show how well they DON’T work!
    I had no idea though that there were 23,000 gun laws on the books. That’s only 23,000 gun laws criminals ignore. Who’d of thunk it?

    John
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    John

    Thanks Wayne,

    The article was absent any reference the scumbag passed a federal check too

    Yes you are correct – with all the gun laws currently on the books, the very bureaucracy which has failed at every level now wants more laws for the bureaucracy that has failed at every level!

    roger smith
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    roger smith

    Ammoland,
    You got it exactly backwards. Gun control only effects law abiding citizens. So “gun control” worked perfectly, as designed, in this case. What failed was “crime control”. But control of the democ rat voter base will never happen. Gun control is designed to “put at peril” law abiding citizens, and patriots. And in this case, it worked perfectly as designed, resulting in the death of law abiding citizens.

    Robert Lucas
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    Robert Lucas

    @ Roger Smith,
    let us not forget the mental health system in this country.

    Darkman
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    Darkman

    The war on firearms is no different than the war on alcohol was in the 20’s and 30’s. The war on drugs for the last 50 years. They all accomplish(d) the same thing. None of them stopped the behavior intended. They did/do accomplish making law abiding people criminals. Laws were never intended to curtail bad behavior. That is accomplished through Morals and Ethics. Laws were put in place for the expressed intent of punishing the criminal for the bad behavior. Punishment must be so severe that the criminal either decides to change their behavior or can no longer act upon… Read more »

    m.
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    m.

    ur dead-on, darkman

    Todd
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    Todd

    BRAVO !!

    m.
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    m.

    congratulations, IL gun “control” d-suckers – you caused the death of innocent people

    Michael Twidle
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    Michael Twidle

    They got exactly what they wanted, the more innocent people killed the more need for stricter gun laws.