Contact the NRA About NOT Supporting Any Red Flag Laws

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Contact the NRA About NOT Supporting Any Red Flag Laws

Virginia – -(AmmoLand.com)- The NRA has taken a public position supporting Red Flag laws. This happened last year. To be fair, the NRA did want certain key things in those laws:

  • 1) A strong due process requirement and
  • 2) A requirement that the subject of the Red Flag law get treatment

and they should have added:

  • 3) That anyone lying to get someone “Red Flagged” would suffer **severe** legal consequences

Here's the problem and why we need to get the NRA to walk away from Red Flag laws: NONE of the Red Flag bills in Congress, or anywhere else, have any of those protections! Red Flag laws focus on an inanimate object (firearms) and NOT the individual who may be the real danger to himself and/or others.

And how would due process be done BEFORE the guns are confiscated? Why just guns? What about all the other weapons that a person has access to – from poisons to kitchen knives to automobiles?

Since none of the bills have what the NRA wants, making them nothing more than gun confiscation disguised as “public safety,” there is NO REASON for the NRA to remain silent.

The NRA needs to stand up and strongly OPPOSE all Red Flag bills, in Congress or elsewhere, and they need to do so ASAP!

NOTE: We are NOT calling for anyone to drop their NRA membership over this, but the NRA needs to hear from us and they need to speak out against Red Flag laws loudly and clearly.

VIDEO OF NRA's POSITION ON RED FLAG LAWS

Here's the video where NRA's Chris Cox talks about support for Red Flag laws:

ACTION ITEM

  • 1) Click here to get the NRA comment form:

https://www.nraila.org/contact-nra-ila/

  • 2) Fill in your name, etc. Be sure to include your NRA member number if you are an NRA member.
  • 3) Suggested subject: Oppose all Red Flag laws
  • 4) Suggested message:

As an NRA member, I urge the NRA to strongly oppose all Red Flag laws in Congress or state legislatures!

The Red Flag bills in Congress, including S. 7, do NOT have the protections the NRA said they wanted in such a bill: strong due process and a requirement for help or treatment for the individual. Plus, these bills focus only on guns. What about all the other dangerous things that a person has access to, such as poisons, knives, automobiles, etc.?

Because of the lack of those protections, Red Flag laws are nothing but gun confiscation schemes disguised as “public safety” and the NRA needs to come out STRONGLY IN OPPOSITION to ALL Red Flag bills.

Let me know what the NRA is planning to do about Red Flag laws, as I see them as a serious and very real threat to our liberty.


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  • 47 thoughts on “Contact the NRA About NOT Supporting Any Red Flag Laws

    1. IMOA, People shouldn’t give up on the NRA because anti-gunners hope to separate us to achieve their anti-gun goals. First contact the NRA and let them know we are not pleased with their current support of bump stocks bans or any gun control initiative. Let them know they need to be asking every news outlet for a chance to be heard. Bring facts to the table and it’ll expose the true anti-gun agenda. Counter the B.S. anti-gunners spew targeting non-gun owners and change a persons mind about guns.

      1. It’s Been fun NRA as a member of for 20 years and a firearms instructor with credentials from your organization but now time to disassociate myself from you. Your firearms training programs were kind of a joke anyway I can do better on my own.

    2. Red flag laws are the nose under the tent that the left is looking for to begin the confiscation of guns from law abiding citizens. There are plenty of laws already on the books to identify those who are dangerous and take action to remove the threat. The problem in, those who see the questionable behavior don’t take action and say or do something. The red flag law will do nothing but give the left an excuse to take away firearms from you and me.

    3. RED FLAG LAWS are a disgrace to America. They are performed on the “Say-So” of a SINGLE PHONE caller, WITHOUT ANY DUE PROCESS, CONFORMATION or LEGAL NOTICE to the individual. In the middle of the night, so the police have “the element of surprise”. IN THE FUTURE YOU CAN EXPECT PEOPLE TO REPORT SOMEONE AS A DANGEROUS PERSON, BECAUSE: THEIR, BLACK OR A REPUBLICAN, OR HAD A DISAGREEMENT WITH A NEIGHBOR, ETC. All gun owners are going to answer any knock at the door or break-in of their door in the middle of the night WITH A LOADED GUN. That’s WHY YOU HAVE A GUN, FOR PROTECTION OF SELF, FAMILY AND HOME.
      The VERY FIRST PERSON in MARYLAND, that their red flag law was imposed on. Came to the door armed, POLICE HAD NO IDENTIFYING MARKINGS ON THEIR CAMO OUTFITS. The police TRIED to WRESTLE AWAY THE DEFENDANTS GUN. THE GUN WHEN OFF IN THE HASSLE. SO THE POLICE ASSUMED A DEATH THREAT, AND SHOT AND KILLED THE DEFENDANT. WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE, OR WITHOUT ANY DUE PROCESS,
      I’ve been a NRA Member for THIRTY YEARS (30). And a former NRA Instructor in 5 disciplines, for TWENTY-FIVE (25) YEARS.
      IF THE NRA IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT RED FLAG LAWS, I WILL TERMINATE MY MEMBERSHIP IN A HEART-BEAT. FOLLOWED BY A PERSONAL CAMPAIGN AT MY LOCAL GUN CLUBS, AND ON FACEBOOK, TO ELIMINATE ALL NRA MEMBERSHIPS. THESE LAWS ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE KILLED, BOTH POLICE & DEFENDANTS. IF POLICE CONTINUE THIS VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION, WITHOUT DUE PROCESS, OR WARNING, THEY HAVE A DEATH WISH & ARE GOING TO GET KILLED. AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE NRA, THESE POLITICALLY CORRECT DEMOCRAT MORONS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THESE LAWS IN MANY STATE & AT A FEDERAL LEVEL. THE BLOOD OF THOSE KILLED IS ALSO ON THE HANDS OF THE NRA-ILA. FOR SUPPORTING THESE UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS.
      THE NEXT TIME I HEAR OF THE NRA SUPPORTING A RED FLAG LAW AT ANY STATE OR THE FEDERAL LEVEL YOU CAN STICK MY MEMBERSHIP WHERE THE LIGHT DON’T SHINE.

    4. The NRA does listen…

      Go to the link..

      Keep it short…

      “I oppose any so called “Red Flag Laws”

      Done.

      You can count on the other side sending messages saying they support such laws. Spend the 2 mins making your position known..

    5. What THE HELL is Wrong with YOU NRA! CHRIS COX!
      I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE RED FLAGS LAWS! THEY ARE DANGEROUS! THEY STRIP DUE PROCESS AND OPEN THE DOOR FOR THE LEFT TO EXPLOIT THE REG FLAG LAWS, AND THE LEFT WILL IN EVERY WAY UNTIL THEY GET OUR GUNS!! SO FOOLISH AND UNWISE TO GIVE THE LEFT A TOW HOLD! I JUST CANT BELIEVE HOW STUPID YOU ARE TO GO ALONG WITH THIS! GROW A SET OF BALLS AND STAND ON THE CONSTITUTION, AND STOP BEING A POLITICAL PUPPET FOR MONEY AND MAYBE WE CAN SAVE OUR COUNTRY!
      I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THE NRA HAS BECOME SO POLITICAL THAT THEY TOO ARE GOING DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE TO GIVE AWAY OUR RIGHTS, TO TURN YOUR BACKS ON OUR CONSTITUTION!
      ASK YOURSELF WHY THE LEFT AND DEMS ARE SHOOTING UP OUR CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, AND CONCERTS! WHY DO THEY KILL OUR CHILDREN! WHY ARE ALL THE DEMOCRAT RUN CITIES MASS MURDER SITE AND WHY ARE GUN FREE ZONES THE CENTER FOR SHOOTING SPREES?
      WHY TAKE GUNS AWAY FROM LAW ABIDING CITIZENS? DONT YOU REALIZE THAT THE RED FLAG LAWS SET UP THE CONFISCATION OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS! WELL IT DOES!
      HISTORY HAS PROVEN THAT ONCE THE LEFT HAVE OUR GUNS, WILL GENOCIDE EVERY CHRISTIAN AND EVERY JEW AND ANYONE THAT DOES NOT FALL IN LINE WITH WHAT THE GOVERNMENT TELLS THEM TO DO! YOU THINK THIS STATEMENT IS UNREASONABLE? REALLY, WHO JUST PAST A LAW TO KILL BABIES? SO WHY WOULD IT BE SO HARD TO BELIEVE THEY WOULD KILL ADULTS??? TELL ME THIS IS NOT TRUE!
      I CANNOT CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE NRA WHILE THEY ARE SO WILLING TO GIVE OUR GUN RIGHTS AWAY! RED FLAG LAWS ARE A COVER FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE, TAKING THE 2ND AMENDMENT FROM AMERICANS!
      THIS WILL NOT STOP MASS SHOOTINGS OR MASS MURDERS! IF SOMEONE WANT TO KILL THEY WILL AND WILL FIND A WEAPON TO USE!
      SO VERY FOOLISH TO TAKE OUR GUNS AWAY AND VERY DANGEROUS!

    6. NO MORE ACCEPTANCE NOR DISCUSSION OF ANTI GUN LEGISLATION OF ANY TYPE, KIND OR STYLE.
      NO MORE NOT EVEN ONE

      ATTENTION !: OUR 2ND A RIGHTS ARE NOT UP FOR GRABS NOR FOR DISCUSSION.
      WE THE PEOPLE GET TO KEEP ALL OF OUR 2ND A RIGHTS AS STATED IN THE 2ND AMENDMENT.

      “THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”, MEANS JUST THAT.

      1. Any attempt to consfiscate weapons by LEO or the courts should be resisted with all measures. If that includes the death of LEO or owners -so be it. The only way ive ever found to stop a bullys behaviour is wth violence, so it DOES WORK so if your afraid to stick your neck out there will be a boot on it. I didnt get the 2nd from the NRA or LEO and it was protected long before they came on the scene

    7. Once again, the NRA under it’s current dictatorial, non-elected, administration fails to protect not only the 2nd Amendment, but the 4th Amendment as well. This is just one reason why I will not endorse, re-up, support or promote the NRA as long as the current rich profiteering overlords of the NRA continue to control the organization and fail to support the 2nd Amendment, and compromise away our rights.

      1. The directors and board if the NRA ARE elected every year, but you must be a Life Member or higher to vote. A Life membership is not that expensive and may be paid in monthly installments at times.
        Like it or not, the NRA us the world’s largest and most powerful lobby for your gun rights. I suggest that, rather than quitting, you increase your membership to Life level and start making changes from WITHIN to make it as it was when Charleton Heston was our President.

        James Tennyson, DDS
        Benefactor Life Member

        1. Tennyson. I am an Endowment Member that believes the NRA BOD is beyond repair. I do not believe its in the best interest for members to pay more just to vote. Voting and giving money is not required to express our dissatisfactions. Change is needed now from within or do without members and their money. Yes, the NRA is powerful lobby that now seems has turned away from us.

        2. YES, The NRA is “the largest and most powerful lobby” on gun issues — but the NRA is not, and never has been, a pro-RKBA organization.

          The NRA position has NOT CHANGED since the president of the NRA testified before congress that he didn’t carry and didn’t think anyone should be allowed to carry without strong restrictions AND a federal license. Can this really be the organization we want “protecting” our rights??

          This is the organization that first proposed the Bump Stock Ban

          This is the organization that after failing to get a bump stock ban through congress, went directly to President Trump to reassure him of their support for a ban and to advise him on how to get a ban without congress.

          Having succeeded in getting the Bump Stock Ban, this is the organization that is now supporting gun confiscation laws at the national level

          So your solution is that we should all give this anti-RKBA organization more money and more claimed members to increase its ability to lobby against our rights!

          Sorry, Fudd, but my money goes to organizations that know what the 2nd Amendment means.

    8. Understanding the general purpose of the red flag laws to assist in preventing a loose dangerous person from using a fire arm is a good thing. BUT!!!!,,,,if you look at this very closely it seems its a page right out of Hitler’s Mind Khoff. If history reminds itself this is exactly the same type actions taken in the 30’s and 40’s under Hitler with neighbor reporting neighbor firt being Jews and second having ANYTHING against the regime. These type laws are what we fight against everyday in this country. These type laws will be made UNCONSTITUTIONAL…

      1. Actually so-called Red Flag laws are useless and completely unnecessary — every state already has some form of Mental Inquest Law, which can be used to resolve the issue of anyone who is a danger to themselves or others.

    9. The NRA is nothing but a bunch of Political Hacks. They have a Long history with colluding with the Anti-Gun people. Gun Owners have to wake up to the BS of the NRA! Sadly gun owners are like the Demoncrats who think it’s the same party as when JFK was in office, it is not. The same with the people who think the NRA is the same NRA of the 20’s and 30’s, It Is Not!!!!! Join the Gun Owners of America, who actually fights for gun owners!

      1. That would be unintelligent! We need the support of EVERYONE that will support 2A. NRA badly needs work, and it will be fixed by do-ers, not complainers! Members can make a difference. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

        1. Dave C. Unintelligent? That is what politicians and the BOD of the NRA consider us. Well, one does not have to be smart to learn that they have been betrayed.

        2. Dave, you miss the point. The NRA is not — never has been — and never will be — a pro-RKBA organization.

          The idea that somehow giving an anti-RKBA organization more money will magically change it’s position is ridiculous. You might as well recommend that we join and support Bloomberg or the Marching Mothers — we’d have more chance of changing their positions, and they have a much shorter history of supporting anti-RKBA legislation.

    10. Red Flag “laws” are all unconstitutional in that they VIOLATE the Constitution’s Bill of Rights. The Revelator posted this several weeks ago listing every bit of violation.
      2nd Amendment – the right to bear arms shall not be infringed”

      4th Amendment – “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated; and no Warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, SUPPORTED by OATH or affirmation, and particularly describing THE PLACE to be searched and the persons or things seized”

      5th Amendment – “…to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW; nor shall property be taken for public use without just compensation.”

      6th Amendment – “IN ALL CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS, THE ACCUSED SHALL ENJOY THE RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the “crime” shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; TO BE CONFRONTED WITH THE WITNESSES AGAINST HIM; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.”

      9th Amendment – “The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”

      10th Amendment – “The powers NOT delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the State respectively, or to the people.”

      Perhaps the greatest violation in Red Flag laws is the violation the 2nd and 6th Amendments. Not being able to confront those who accuse you is totalitarianism at its worst. Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Mao’s China and all countries/governments have denied this to the accused. The sole purpose of the 2nd is to PREVENT TYRANNY. We are at the precipice of history – will we allow the gov to proceed or will we manage to arrest those responsible for these totalitarian “color-of-laws” being presented and passed? I, for one, do not know if it is even possible, now that we have whole generations dumb-downed and just plain stupid.

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        1. Dave C. I knew an American fighter pilot that had the opportunity to personally and directly shoot the Baron with a .45 in mid air combat. He chose not to because of honor.
          Now, I fail to see why the Baron has anything to do with this topic.

      2. Herb, you are wrong about the NRA flip-flopping. The NRA has never changed its position on the right to keep and bear arms.

        During congressional NFA hearings in 1934, NRA president, Karl Frederick, testified “I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I seldom carry one. … I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.”

        The NRA position is still the same today. They supported the National Firearms Act in 1934, supported the Federal Firearms Act in 1938, supported the Gun Control Act in 1968, supported the misnamed Firearm Owners Protection Act (including the infamous Hughes Amendment) in 1986, and supported the Federal Assault Weapons Ban in 1994. How can anyone say they flip flop?? The NRA has been 100% consistent for over 85 years – every single anti-RKBA law passed by the US Congress did so with the support of the NRA.

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    12. Any support for these types of laws needs to be opposed. Yes, we need mental health evaluations for some, but just to take a person’s personal property based on what might be a personal grudge against someone is ridiculous. We all know how many government officials do their best to find a way around regulations that have “good intentions “.

    13. The dog’s on the loose.
      Someone call the animal control department. They’re in the garbage again too!

    14. I’ve been following you guys for some time now, and continue to keep hope in my heart that americans will rally.
      Thanks for all you do.

    15. I am doing just the opposite and writing to the NRA in support of ERPOs! This issue has my support, along with many others such as: President Donald J. Trump, Marco Rubio, and many other respectful government officials from both parties. It is important to note that our up and coming young voters who have been out there on the streets, on the weekends demanding change such as support of ERPOs. It is important to note that ALL of us support our right to bear arms! The majority that wants you to talk to you, to listen to what we have to say, and to join us.

        1. Burner. Some one would have to have been or our side before he could become a traitor. GWD is more like a fence-sitter taunting bulls not thinking he could be bumped off by them from either side.

      1. We have shown you the Constitution and Bill of Rights again and again, they have been in place for over 200 years, served our country’s citizens well, and your minorities still wish to change them. Many countries constitutions have been based on ours except they took out the parts they didn’t like, almost identical to your suggestions, and the countries eventually failed. The people on the street can differentiate between the real deal and a scam.

    16. Doing this asap! Passing the word.
      I tell people to join in such a way you get to vote and then vote to change our nra from within.the problem won’t be solved by inaction or departure!

    17. Contacted NRAILA Today as well as Both my Senators again. Tomorrow the Senate Judiciary Committee meets to discuss the Red Flag legislation forwarded by Marco Rubio. Now is the time to contact YOUR Senators to voice your displeasure with any Law that diminishes your Rights. Especially Your 2A Rights.

      1. NRA opposes Rubio’s bill.

        HEre is NRA’s statement on “red flag” bills.
        https://www.nraila.org/get-the-facts/emergency-risk-protection-orders-erpos/

        What is the NRA’s position on emergency risk protection orders (ERPOs)?
        The NRA’s position on emergency risk protection orders (ERPOs) has recently been mischaracterized by some who haven’t taken the time to understand our position, including the anti-gun mainstream media and organizations that purport to support the Second Amendment. Many of the individuals mischaracterizing our position are using misinformation to simply attack the NRA.

        The NRA fights for the constitutional freedoms, including the due process rights, of all law-abiding Americans, every day in Congress, the statehouses and the courts. Our record on this is clear. Due process of law is a bedrock of our constitutional freedoms. Without it, we would cease to exist as a free country.

        All fifty states currently have civil commitment procedures and many lack basic due process protections. This is unacceptable. The NRA believes that no one should be deprived of a fundamental right without due process of law.

        Some have raised the issue of current ERPO laws in California, Oregon, Vermont and other states, suggesting that the NRA supports those laws. This is false. The NRA strongly opposed these laws because they do not protect due process rights. We will continue to oppose confiscation schemes such as these.

        In addition, the NRA opposes any effort to create a federal ERPO law, in which federal agents would be tasked with seizing firearms after a hearing in federal court. As states consider ERPO laws, the NRA will continue to push for the inclusion of strong due process protections.

        The NRA believes that any effort should be structured to fully protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens while preventing truly dangerous individuals from accessing firearms.

        The requirements of an ERPO process that the NRA could support should include the following:

        The process should include criminal penalties for those who bring false or frivolous charges.

        An order should only be granted when a judge makes the determination, by clear and convincing evidence, that the person poses a significant risk of danger to themselves or others.

        The process should require the judge to make a determination of whether the person meets the state standard for involuntary commitment. Where the standard for involuntary commitment is met, this should be the course of action taken.

        If an ERPO is granted, the person should receive community-based mental health treatment as a condition of the ERPO.

        Any ex parte proceeding should include admitting the individual for treatment.

        A person’s Second Amendment rights should only be temporarily deprived after a hearing before a judge, in which the person has notice of the hearing and is given an opportunity to offer evidence on his or her behalf.

        There should be a mechanism in place for the return of firearms upon termination of an ERPO, when a person is ordered to relinquish their firearms as a condition of the order.

        The ERPO process should allow an individual to challenge or terminate the order, with full due process protections in place.

        The process should allow firearms to be retained by law-abiding third parties, local law enforcement, or a federally licensed firearms dealer when an individual is ordered to relinquish such firearms as a condition of the ERPO. The individual must also have the ability to sell his or her firearms in a reasonable time without violating the order.

        Again, the NRA will continue to oppose any proposal that does not fully protect due process rights. We will only support an ERPO process that strongly protects both Second Amendment rights and due process rights at the same time.

        1. Thank You for posting the TRUTH! We need the NRA and EVERYONE ELSE that supports 2A. The NRA has issues (salaries, wine lists, insurance, coin collections are not part of it’s original mission) but these can be fixed. I belong to BOTH NRA, GOA, as well as Texas State Rifle Association TSRA.)

        2. @ Thomas
          You must have been asleep when Cox first mentioned that the NRA was supporting the red flag law. It makes no difference they have thrown us under the bus more than they have defended us. Maybe the elites should forgo some of their over the top salaries and use some of that money for what they said they would do, defend our 2A rights. The NRA has gone social justice on us and have moved beyond the purpose they collect all the yearly dues for.
          It is interesting they come back with this now, hoping the worse has blown over. I and many others are like an elephant, we never forget.

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