Opinion
U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)-Someone in Washington State has filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to get the names and addresses of residents that have turned in their bump stocks to police to create a publicly searchable database of these former owners.
According to reports that were later verified by AmmoLand, The Washington State Patrol sent a letter out informing former bump stock owners that they received an FOIA request to build an online database. The letter set the gun world on fire. This request harkens back to when a newspaper planned to post a map of gun owners in New York State in an attempt to shame owners out of their guns. Any publication of this personal information would also act as a map to locations where criminals could likely find guns to steal, putting owners a greater risk.
The request reads: “This is a public records request.
I seek to inspect any and all completed WSP bump stock buy back forms.
I seek to obtain the names and addresses where checks will be mailed for the bump stock buy back program.
My intent is to create a searchable database and map of Washington state to overlay the locations.
The public has a right to know that these dangerous devices may have been in neighborhoods that they live in and who has previously owned such devices.”
I was able to confirm with Gretchen Dolan of the Washington State Patrol that there was a letter sent out to gun owners warning them that someone filed an FOIA request to build an online database. They are planning on releasing the information unless a court ordered is filed by April 26th.
“If a court order is filed, we will hold the information until it is resolved,” Dolan told AmmoLand. “If we don’t receive a court order, we will release the information of those that turned in bump stocks.”
Two Names on the Request
The letter listed two separate FOIA request. The way the letter was written it did not make it clear that they request were unrelated. AmmoLand News was able to verify that this was the case.
The first request was from Paul Holgate. According to Dolan, Holgate did not list a reason for the FOIA request. A reason is not required, Dolan explain to AmmoLand on a phone call. The letter sent out by the Washington State Patrol contained Holgate’s personal email and address.
AmmoLand spoke to Paul Holgate on the phone. He stated that he is a Second Amendment Advocate and submitted his request to find out what personal information that the WSP was keeping about those who turned in bump stocks.
“I am a 2A advocate,” Holgate told AmmoLand. “I am trying to figure out what information they are storing on gun owners. I am just trying to keep them honest.”
Holgate stated that he does not know the second person but is getting harassed because his information was put out there by the WSP. AmmoLand was able to verify Holgate’s story. He has a history of pro-gun actions.
Fake Name Yati Arguna?
The second person listed in the letter is Yati Arguna. After an exhaustive public records search, AmmoLand was not able to find any information on Arguna. Arguna is the person that wants to build the database.
Arguna does not have an online presence. No one with that name has ever lived anywhere, owned a phone, held a job, or received a parking ticket. The email address that Arguna provided appears to be a “burner” account. It has never been used anywhere on the internet to accept this FOIA request.
Arguna also did not list a home address or phone number. AmmoLand believes that “Yati Arguna” is a fake name. We are unable to determine the real name of Arguna at this time. According to the Washington State Patrol, they are still going to release the information to Arguna.
Many gun owners on message boards are using this as an example of why not to comply with confiscations. Most think a broader organization is behind the effort to expose the addresses and personal information of gun owners.
AmmoLand contacted Gun Owners of America about letter. Executive Director Erich Pratt was outraged.
“Gun Owners of America and Gun Owners Foundation is looking into this matter,” Pratt told AmmoLand. “This is an outrageous violation of privacy to dox individuals who complied with this law. This opens up these individuals to theft and harassment from anti-gun activists.”
At this time information about Arguna is scarce. AmmoLand will keep investigating. Arguna did not respond to AmmoLands emails.
About John Crump
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If people start getting doxed, some are going to pay dearly. You can only push so far before, before.
There’s an old expression my Dad used to say. Keep knocking on the devil’s door sooner or later someone’s going to answer. They’re poking a sleeping giant. American citizens are bending over backwards for these treasonous politicians and the cucks they have working for them. They value ILLEGALS MORE THAN CITIZENS. My theory is that the Dems have been planning with other world leaders to shift the world into a ( change of Guard scenario) Look at the world. They have ” migrants” supposedly fearing for their lives( more like an invasion on Western Cultures and countries to destroy/ dilute… Read more »
Look at RCW 958.010 and RCW 958.090, Also should look into filing federal charges (with a federal prosecutor) against this yati whom or who they are for violations of constitutional and civil rights. The federal prosecutor can investigate, identify, and charge this person or persons. Once that is done then the lawsuits against yati could start. And should, that is the only way things like this will stop. It quite possibly is why yati used a burner email address, to keep from being prosecuted. I turned one in, but have never owned an AR. It was given to me because… Read more »
I have a strong suspicion that anyone who had a bumpstock, has an AR!
I’m not a lawyer by any means, but I do know how to search. This is what I found about a FOIA request that not only applies to the IRS but all governmental agencies. These are the Freedom of Information Guide Lines directly from the IRS.gov website. Exemption and Exclusions : FOIA EXEMPTIONS, The exemptions protect against the disclosure of information that would HARM the privacy of individuals. Exemption 6 : The sixth exemption applies to personal, medical and similar files the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. Only individuals have privacy interest, not… Read more »
You mean some people a dually complied with the law???
This is so suspicious. Anyone that can not identify themselves requesting FOIA is up to no good. Terrorist would want this to verify their opposition in armed numbers. Making a map of potential gun owners is absurd. May want it for strategic purposes. Draws the question, is this happening in other states or is it isolated to WA State?
Or could simply be just an ant-gun liberal that wants to doxx which is vindictive with prejudice.
Either way this is extremely dangerous.
WSP better not release anything with names or addresses.
Why in the name of all that once was “common sense” did WSP even need to keep any identification information on those people that turn in bumpstocks? So they could give them back if the law is overturned?
So they can mail the checks out. You didn’t get money for several weeks.
Sometimes it is possible to trace out the ISP and actual owner of an email address. Perhaps an FOIA request to WSP to share the actual request from this phoney name guy….. he has to hav provided some place for the data to be sent. That should be part of his request. Let’s see if news of this results in sudden end to turn-ins of these illegally banned devices. ANY intaractions with gummit where MY personal ifnormation is part of the action will get minimal response from me. Nunnya Bidniss. And in those cases where information is necessary, wich as… Read more »
First, WSP need to authenticate this request, including to positively identify the one making the request. I belive this is state law. Second, WSP and any other state agency is constrained by state law against providing personal data relating to anyone’s Mother May I Card to carry concealed. That is PRIVATE information. So is any information gathered and held by FFL’s. WSP have the authority to redact personal identifying information. This request has to have some designated place to send the requested information. WSP need to inf=vestigate WHO that is….. These past few years WSP have been morphing from their… Read more »
I’m not turning in a damn thing.
If I lived in the state of Washington, or commiefornia north, I would be inclined to question anything the state government does or is about to do. from what I have read and heard they are just a bunch of brainless idiots with no consideration for any of the citizens.
It’s Unconstitutional and they know it……
Ducks. Ducky like. Walks like a Duck, Looks like a Duck, and like most, the issue involves much Quackery.
Smells like mission creep to many.
But those others are in the Blind.
Some wear Muck Boots. Especially when it gets real deep.
Those sneaky Ducks.
It would be illegal to release this information for two reasons. One, the troll who made the request did not provide proof of WA residency, which is a requirement for a FOIA of this scale. Second, the release of private information, such as addresses, may only be granted if the persons in question have committed a clearly identified and related crime. Neither of these conditions exist, however, given the level of recklessness and socialist behaviors emanating from Olympia, I wouldn’t be surprised to see this granted by Gov. Inslee himself as soon as he has an opportunity.
If the State Patrol releases the information they are participants in the violation of privacy. The simple response to the FOIA request: The data is Personally Identifiable Information (PII) and is not subject to disclosure under FOIA.
The government should not have any lists of folks who turned them in. No record should be kept: out of courtesy considering the government had no right to demand a turn in of private property to begin with, nor any right to confiscate or ban a once legal mechanical device. Completely unconstitutional.
If the people wanted to be compensated-then they are looking for the mailing lists for the reimbursements.
It’s wrong that the people have complied with the law change and did what they are supposed to do legally, and now are harassed for it.
If the information was given out to anyone what better way for a thief to find out where to look to steal firearms.
“Once, there was a fire.”
John Sexton from the movie ‘Joe Kidd with Clint Eastwood
So what is the email address of this Yadi person. I promise not to send him any email myself, asking for a friend.
I thought it was illegal to provide a false identity to law enforcement. I think this person should be required to pick up the information in person. They can then be arrested for the crime they committed. Easy Squeezy.
Why would anybody comply with a law like this? It will just make you a target for future confiscations.
You are right Dennis, i have to admit like a idiot i did turn in my bump stock because i would never use it. And fell for the dangled carrot. But not thinking about the big picture now I might pay for it. Never again I feel like a sucker I should have known better but cant take it back. Lesson learned my friend. Mike
Yati is Russian troll.
That alone should preclude the state endangering its citizens.
It then seems fitting for Dolan and any cop or other person who brings a Red Flag against someone, to have their personal info published, right?
Turn this crap around and it will vanish virtually, overnight.
Proofread your damn article. I am almost embarrassed to share that bloody word salad.
Fake Name Yati Arguna?
Is an anagram for “A Anti-Ar guy”
Thank you!….. I was trying to decyfer something like that as well! Pretty cowardly to ask for private info about others and not be man enough to give your own.
I equate this to the guy who throws a punch assuming everyone will jump in before he gets the shit beat out of him
If the WSP turns over the requested info to the phantom “Yati Arguna”, the negative fallout will be on them! As should be any liability arising from such recklessness!!
I heard “Yadi Argouna” which is an arabic name.
This could get someone killed. At the very least WSP should verify in person, this individual.
We…not just the 1000 former owners…have a right to know who is trying to threaten and cause harm.
John, you bring us the news that matters. Keep it up.
I got doxxed last year. Once they saw videos from my Birthday Blastfest they thought better of showing up at my house.
Anyone who owned ANY device that the government has now deemed contraband should tell any and all agencies who inquire that they are no longer in possession of that item, period. Companies who sold these items should have deleted their data bases long ago. If they didn’t shame on them.
only a bloody retard complies and hands in anything! I think its hilarious….your unamerican when you obey unconstitutional edicts from the police state…
Agreed.
Yeah the govt has no freaking clue who owns them, but guess who they will come to first if they try a round up at any point.
FOIA b**t sniffer: BIOOYMFA, NOYMFB