Who Wants This War with Iran?

Who Wants This War with Iran?
Who Wants This War with Iran?

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- Speaking on state TV of the prospect of a war in the Gulf, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei seemed to dismiss the idea.

“There won't be any war. … We don't seek a war, and (the Americans) don't either. They know it's not in their interests.”

The ayatollah's analysis — war is in neither nation's interest — is correct. Consider the consequences of a war with the United States for his own country.

Iran's hundreds of swift boats and handful of submarines would be sunk. Its ports would be mined or blockaded. Oil exports and oil revenue would halt. Airfields and missile bases would be bombed. The Iranian economy would crash. Iran would need years to recover.

And though Iran's nuclear sites are under constant observation and regular inspection, they would be destroyed.

Tehran knows this, which is why, despite 40 years of hostility, Iran has never sought war with the “Great Satan” and does not want this war to which we seem to be edging closer every day.

What would such a war mean for the United States?

It would not bring about “regime change” or bring down Iran's government that survived eight years of ground war with Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

If we wish to impose a regime more to our liking in Tehran, we will have to do it the way we did it with Germany and Japan after 1945, or with Iraq in 2003. We would have to invade and occupy Iran.

But in World War II, we had 12 million men under arms. And unlike Iraq in 2003, which is one-third the size and population of Iran, we do not have the hundreds of thousands of troops to call up and send to the Gulf.

Nor would Americans support such an invasion, as President Donald Trump knows from his 2016 campaign. Outside a few precincts, America has no enthusiasm for a new Mideast war, no stomach for any occupation of Iran.

Moreover, war with Iran would involve firefights in the Gulf that would cause at least a temporary shutdown in oil traffic through the Strait of Hormuz — and a worldwide recession.

How would that help the world? Or Trump in 2020?

How many allies would we have in such a war?

Spain has pulled its lone frigate out of John Bolton's flotilla headed for the Gulf. Britain, France and Germany are staying with the nuclear pact, continuing to trade with Iran, throwing ice water on our intelligence reports that Iran is preparing to attack us.

Turkey regards Iran as a cultural and economic partner. Russia was a de facto ally in Syria's civil war. China continues to buy Iranian oil. India just hosted Iran's foreign minister.

So, again, Cicero's question: “Cui bono?”

Who really wants this war? How did we reach this precipice?

A year ago, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo issued a MacArthurian ultimatum, making 12 demands on the Tehran regime.

Iran must abandon all its allies in the Middle East — Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, Hamas in Gaza — pull all forces under Iranian command out of Syria, and then disarm all its Shiite militia in Iraq.

Iran must halt all enrichment of uranium, swear never to produce plutonium, shut down its heavy water reactor, open up its military bases to inspection to prove it never had a secret nuclear program and stop testing missiles. And unless she submits, Iran will be strangled with sanctions.

Pompeo's speech at the Heritage Foundation read like the terms of some conquering Caesar dictating to some defeated tribe in Gaul, though we had yet to fight and win the war, usually a precondition for dictating terms.

Iran's response was to disregard Pompeo's demands.

And crushing U.S. sanctions were imposed, to brutal effect.

Yet, as one looks again at the places where Pompeo ordered Iran out — Lebanon, Yemen, Gaza, Syria, Iraq — no vital interest of ours was imperiled by any Iranian presence.

The people who have a problem with Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon are the Israelis whose occupations spawned those movements.

As for Yemen, the Houthis overthrew a Saudi puppet.

Syria's Bashar Assad never threatened us, though we armed rebels to overthrow him. In Iraq, Iranian-backed Shiite militia helped us to defend Baghdad from the southerly advance of ISIS, which had taken Mosul.

Who wants us to plunge back into the Middle East, to fight a new and wider war than the ones we fought already this century in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yemen?

Answer: Pompeo and Bolton, Bibi Netanyahu, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and the Sunni kings, princes, emirs, sultans and the other assorted Jeffersonian democrats on the south shore of the Persian Gulf.

And lest we forget, the never-Trumpers and neocons in exile nursing their bruised egos, whose idea of sweet revenge is a U.S. return to the Mideast in a war with Iran, which then brings an end to the Trump presidency.

About Patrick J. Buchanan

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Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.

  • 37 thoughts on “Who Wants This War with Iran?

    1. looks to me like Trump is getting his ducks in a row for a major hit on Iran. Trump is hoping that Iran or one of its covert anti American proxies will do something stupid. This of course will bring on a full retaliatory response from the United States. Iran knows this and I think they are very concerned, no not concerned, terrified about this possibility. Looks like the Trumpster has checkmated Iran as Iran has created a monster they no longer have complete control over.

    2. Pat is a moron. We have been putting up with “death to America” for way too long. Pat has no real knowledge of military matters so STFU. It will take one day tops to completely destroy Iran’s military with no casualties of our own. They have no idea what they are fucking with.

      It will be the end of Trump? No, I don’t think so. He will not lose his base over this, provided it’s done correctly. The USA is sick of prolonged wars with no end or outcome. This would have big benefits in taking them out s a sponsor of terror and a potential source of future nuclear war which will happen if we don’t stop their progress to the bomb.

    3. The fu*king Israelis want us to fight another proxy war for them. That’s why we went into Iraq. It’s we instigated the takeout of Gaddafi. That’s why the Jewish owned MSM in the USA wanted for us to take out the Syrian government. The Jewish neo-cons and their bitch John Bolton would spend the last American dollar and drop of American blood securing Israeli hegemony in the Middle East.

    4. How quickly we forget:
      241 Sailors and Marines killed in their barracks in Lebanon. Iranian backed Hezbollah. One of the Marine LT’s was a friend and classmate.
      19 USAF killed in Kohbar Towers-Iran and Hezbollah
      224 dead in US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania Iranian backed Al Qaeda who used weapons from Iran and trained with Hezbollah.
      Many US dead and wounded in Afghanistan by Iranian designed shaped perpetrator IED’s
      USS Roberts, Tripoli, and Princeton damaged by Iranian sea mines, US allied tankers hurt by Iranian sea mines (Earnest Will and Praying Mantis). We sent a large portion of their Navy to the bottom of the Gulf in Praying Mantis.

      I was on a US carrier for all of those incidents, except the Afghanistan ops, and I ended up sending an EW expert from my last command tour for a year, so in effect I supported that operation as well.

      The fact is, the US has been in a proxy war with Iran for years. The only reason there haven’t been more incidents is that the US periodically punches them in the nose in response for their attacks.

      Sending the bombers and strike group to the area merely tells Iran that we’re tired of their attacks, and if you do what you were trying to do, we’re going to cause you some pain.

      Nobody and I mean nobody wants a full blown war with Iran. It doesn’t mean we won’t take out Air or Naval forces if they strike us first. Can’t tell you how many times I planned striking particular Iranian bases over a 30 yr career, but we never executed. (…and I left the Gulf 2 wks before Ernest Will after doing tanker escort for over 6 months).

      Iran and North Korea are truly bad actors and share technology. Fortunately, NK has not shared a nuke with them, although they have shared nuke technology and probably increased their chances of the Iranians getting the bomb faster.

      Keep the sanctions on both and until their behavior changes, hold both accountable for any bad actions.

    5. The sneaky, lying tablecloth heads do not want to get along with us. They only want to expand their hold on the world and keep sneaking attacks on us and our allies.
      Even when obama gave them a pallet full of money they were still flying flags that said death to America. If it was possible to get rid of the bearded wonder and his cronies it might be a different situation.

      1. @Pmin, No, only 29% of “our youth” can even qualify to get into our military. By obesity, criminal records, and drug use 71% have disqualified themselves from military service. As to the middle east sucking this nation dry of money, you must be referring to all those pallets of cash that President Soetoro jetted over to the mullahs, in the middle of the night.

          1. @Ron, I believe that I got his point, … and discarded it. His opinion is based upon untruths. His point implies a false argument.
            Iran is a linchpin in an alliance of countries that hate and loath democracies. What unites them is the belief that one man rule is best. That alliance has been at covert war with us for forty years.
            Besides it is so hard to get live targets to volunteer.

    6. Stop the Iranians … period. Then go to Mecca and destroy that pagan black box the Muslims bow down to. Make no mistake lslam is being forced on all nation’s. The US has to stop pacifying the Arabs…

      1. @Justice, the Iranians are not Arab. Iranians are Persian. And we can not just destroy the Iranians, they have allies … powerful allies. Russia, China, Venezuela, Syria Cuba, Hezbola, the Moslem Brotherhood, al Qaeda, al Qaeda in Iraq, and al Qaeda in India, just to name a few. And every single one of those entities have operatives in the U.S.
        So many are arrayed against us, that we better stick together.

    7. The pis excrement republic of iran has been at war with the US since it delcared war by illegally seizing the US embassy on 04 November 1979.

        1. Ron,

          Whether or not the fact pleases you (and I don’t give a tinker’s dam whether it “suits” you or not), the Jews ARE indeed God’s people. Only a fool would even think about destroying them (much less actually attempting to do so).

          Of course, you may try… at your own peril.

          1. @Joe Moore, It was the Jews that said that the Jews are God’s people. A self serving statement is unworthy of belief. I’m pretty sure that some Jews are God’s people, and some are not. I’m pretty sure that lots of non-Jewish people around the globe are God’s people, and some are not.
            I do not believe that someone saying they are God’s people is a reason to make an alliance. I do believe that if a group of really talented, dedicated, intelligent, determined fighters want to aid us against our common enemies, that is a reason to make an alliance.

    8. The only people wanting action in Iran are traitors to the American people. Nothing in the Middle East is worth one drop of American blood or one ounce of American gold. Bring our troops home, end all aid to every other nation, mind our own business and guard our own borders.

    9. Another thought provoking article Mr. Buchanan. When will we learn to keep our nose out’a everybody’s bees wax?
      Some of these ‘macho’ comments here about nuking and the Mossad are nothing but mindless jibber.
      All would do well to read George Washington’s farewell address. But then, who cares about what all those ‘old dead white men’ had to say. These gullible whipper snappers know so much more.
      America first!

    10. Don’t want a war. The picture that is accompanying this article shows F5 “Freedom” fighters. They are not stealth and would be no problem for F22 and F 35 fighters. Even the F15 and F 16 will beat them.
      A conventional bombing attack on Iran would destroy their military and nuclear plants.
      It would also result in Iranian politics advancing 900 years .
      Iran is a religious dictatorship worse than Communism because it is totally based on faith and belief in one man, the ayatollah.
      The USA rules don’t allow us to directly target “leaders” so war is our only option if they don’t surrender.
      One alternative.
      Arm the resistance in Iran, if there is one.

      1. The one fly in this ointment has always been Israel. At least six years ago John Bolton, in a very private and candid conversation, said he was amazed that Israel hadn’t reached its breaking point already and attacked Iran. He theorized that only the pressure exerted by Obama, with the threat of withholding replacement parts for planes and equipment, kept them from doing so. Now, with Obama gone, that restriction is off the table.

        Israel has always said it would never allow a nuclear Iran. Having Iran achieve that goal is a direct threat to Israel and an indirect threat to the US in that they would happily sell material, that could be used in a dirty bomb, to a third party. Material that could not, easily, be traced back to them.

      2. There is another side to the photo of the Iranian F-5s. How many of them are in flying condition? Many are simply “hangar queens”, unflyable and used mainly for parts that are unavailable to Iran, mostly due to sanctions. I would guess that less than 40% of Iran’s air force is in flying condition and the F-5s that they have are from the late Shah’s purchases of second tier fighters of the 70’s and before. There may be some Russian or Chinese aircraft in their inventory, but those are likely second tier, obsolete aircraft as well. None of them can hold a candle to our fleet of modern, well maintained aircraft, and would most likely be destroyed in any air battle they participated in. In a war situation, they would probably never leave their hardened hangars only to be destroyed there by smart bombs. Remember those? They were part of the technology from the first Gulf War that our esteemed politicians of the time stated “it’ll never work”. Well, as Toby Kieth once sang, “How d’you like me now”?

        Phil in TX

    11. Now, now, Mr. Buchanan. You know that Iranian money and influence created havoc in Iraq and Afghanistan while our troops were trying to pacify the regions and eliminate the leaders of the terror groups. You know those same terror groups would be knocking on your front door if it wasn’t for the constant threat of our military. You also know that without the might of the US, Israel would be in pretty deep stuff. …and Israel’s “expansion” is nothing more than using the land they fought for and won in the many battles they didn’t start.
      So…please remove your head from your third point of contact. Yes, no one wants a war with Iran and yes, wars are an extreme result of failed politics (you should know as you’ve been a politician). However a little show of force may create a sudden need to change Iranian behaviors. If not, there’s always escalating violence up to and including what our friend Conrad here advocates. Though I pray it doesn’t come to that.

      1. When did keeping Israel out of “deep stuff” become the responsibility of the American tax payer? You really believe that “fight them over there…….” BS?
        Two oceans provide quite a bit of defense.
        Iran is not now nor has ever been a threat to the US. Bring our troops home and let Israel sleep in the bed it has made.

        1. Yes, Iran does not pose a direct threat to the U.S. They do, however, pose a threat when and if they sell nuclear material to a third party, such as Hamas, Isis, AlQueda or any other terrorist group or cell, that can create a dirty bomb and detonate it on U.S. soil. That is the threat of Iran to the world right now and well into the future unless they are VERY CLOSELY WATCHED.

          Phil in TX

          1. Can you say antifa ? Remember they were telling their subversives to take guns to their demonstrations and when protesting anyone who disagreed with them.

            1. Google or who ever is moderating must have a new bunch of trainees today .

              @Ammoland a statement from you as to you doing it or some other entity doing it would be nice.

    12. The King of the South (Iran) will soundly be defeated by the King of the North (Germany) – then the great betrayal takes place.

      Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it. We should least forget the driving force behind WWI and WWII, even though defeated and devastated, it again is an economic power and being pushed to become again a military power.

      The EU, lead by Germany, will become a political, economic, military and religious power rivaled only by past Holy Roman Empire. The Beast will rise and the Harlot will ride.

    13. America does not have the “cojones” to do it, but Israel’s Mossad should be able to stage a “fatal coronary” of the chief billy-goats in Iran. Just sayin’….

    14. Let them see for a moment what they have sought, nuke ’em till they glow, make the sand shine like the sea.
      It’s payback time for every terrorist act they have imposed on Americans.

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